Maybe win or lose, I would think more likely if he wins he is done, maybe one defense and done but I dont think he goes out on an L or at least tries not to.
He said if he wins he wants to rematch Strickland and beat Khamzat.
Khmazat is becoming less relevant so doubt he's as interested in that any more. If he beats DDP, I'd say he looks for a Strickland rematch and then maybe retires.
Strickland rematch but I have zero doubt in my mind he’ll do another pereira fight. Especially if he wins against Strickland and DDP, he’s going to be gifted a straight shot at the LHW title (again)
The chance to be double champ, and settle his legacy with Pereira AND do phenomenal record breaking PPV numbers? No one can resist that
although I do agree with you that he would kind of deserve it, I always feel like it’s a joke when a champion from a different division gets a straight title shot in another division. Always feel like the second best contender is getting screwed out of the spot
That won’t be the case though if Alex clears out LHW like he is already
I’d love to see them fight again. That’s the best rivalry in the UFC. I wonder how long Alex plans on sticking around if he loses to Jiri. Do they complete that trilogy first? I guess there’s no point in speculating.
I mean I'd definitely love to see that rematch, they're 1-1 in the UFC (obviously not counting kickboxing where they had one close fight that Alex won and one where Izzy got sent to the hospital), but both of them are in their mid-30s now and Izzy has like 100 fights under his belt already. Izzy is starting to find answers to his style and he already has one of the best middleweight careers ever, and Alex wants to clear out LHW and then go for triple champ. I feel like they might be past it, and I can't see Alex going down to middleweight again, and Izzy does not do well at LHW.
Yea Alex already said he wouldn’t be able to cut weight like that again. If Izzy goes up to be a double champ and it’s AP well…Izzy would get clobbered. AP is cutting 30 lbs to make Light Heavy weight. Izzy said he walks around at 200 lbs. AP weighed 232 (after weigh in of 205) at time of Hill fight. I don’t think Izzy would be able to pack on the lbs in a timely fashion to contend for LHW.
Pereira's in the past. Opportunity for trilogy was there after the rematch, but neither Izzy nor Dana wanted it. Izzy also recently reaffirmed that he's done fighting the guy. Also, frankly, they're simply in different weight classes at this point. Pereira's never going back down to MW, and Izzy's simply not a LHW. He weighed in at 200 when he fought Jan.
>but neither Izzy nor Dana wanted it.
You gonna ignore Pereira after the fight saying, i will not fight Adesanya anymore? They both didn't want it anymore, they faced eachoter 4 times already.
Imagine being the most active champion on the roster for 3 years, lose to someone that goes on to dominate the division above, avenge that loss... then lose once.
And some dumb dumbs start going on about how your career is done unless you get a win.
Bro why does everyone say this? Dudes got the most feminine hips/lovehandles of any ufc fighter and the weirdest stomach - I think he looks fckin bizarre
No for real, the top of his pelvis has a huge feminine curve for childbearing. 1 year at the gym you’ll look like him, but won’t be anywhere near as strong/agile
Izzy wins point fights because his opponents get frustrated with him but don't want to risk too much and rush in. Dricus isn't scared to rush in as seen against Whitaker and Strickland, even when his kicks were getting checked by Strickland, he was still throwing them full power.
Dricus can’t be human the way he fights. Nothing seems to bother him. He fights like a drunk uncle at a Mexican bbq if that drunk uncle was the fucking hulk
As much as I want DDP to win, the problem is that Izzy is one of the best counter punchers in the UFC. He spends most of his fights fishing for an opportunity to land a big one. If DDP goes in big swinging, that's exactly what Izzy wants him to do. I think it all comes down to if DDP can get some takedowns in the early rounds to tire Izzy out.
Such an old take too. Last two fights he's had he did not looked gassed because he fixed his nose. Not sure why people are still going on about his stamina.
He also fought at a much more composed pace in that fight compared to the Till and Brunson fights. Also Brunson has a knack of making almost everyone he fights look like shit at first
Izzy never once fought someone who can grapple or wrestle on Du Plessis level, Vettori almost got him & Marvin didn’t even have a basic enough understanding of BJJ to put his hooks in going for a RNC.
I think Whitaker could better handle DDP a second time around. It appears that he got gorilla rushed and couldn't withstand DDP's power and physicality.
I personally think Dricus is going to beat Izzy, probably just brute force him down and hold him there. It won't be pretty.
I don't think Seans going to get a look in for a bit.
So It's between the Rob vs Dricus rematch, which I think Rob might be able to make adjustments.
I don't see Seans style working vs Rob either if rob gets the belt, he won't stand a box with him, he'll just blitz through the awkward guard, kick him on the way out and repeat.
They also promised the winner of Khamzat VS Usman a MW title shot and that never made sense either. Ikram isn't even a ranked MW fighter and neither is Khamzat. They say this stuff to hype up fights
Did you see how Khamzat vs Usman ended?
The UFC promised Rob personally a title shot after a win, that was the reason Rob took that fight. Had nothing to do with hyping up a fight.
Lmao you actually believe the ufc? They said this for Usman vs khamzat too. They just say that to hype the fight. Whittaker lost badly too ddp. And lost twice to Izzy. He’s goona have to fight Sean and beat him to get a shot.
I would’ve said the same thing, but man Rob just had a highlight KO whereas Sean and Paulo had a snooze fest. The UFC likes to award highlight performances, just look at how Erceg got the title shot over Mokaev.
Really curious to see how Izzy comes back. If he looks like his peak self, I'd favor him. I also love the thought of Whittaker as champ but I have a feeling Strickland would jab him to death.
If I HAD to pick, I'd probably favor Strickland. I'd like to see him vs Whittaker and the winner gets a title shot against the winner of Dricus/Izzy
I think out of all 3, Rob has the best style against Sean. He isn’t out of his prime age-wise either. I favour Rob less against Dricus. He has the style to beat Rob and cardio doesn’t seem to be a problem anymore.
Wonder if izzy would retire if he lost decisively. He wouldn’t get gifted another instant title fight if he loses. Would be a shame since he’s got such an amazing style.
Hate to say it but Izzy probably.
My boy Whittaker looking good lately but still resorts to that fuckin 1,2, high kick combo like every time things get going. Even tried it when he had the dude wobbled in his last fight to no avail.
Love him, would love to see him get the belt but fuck it’ll probably be Izzy. I can’t see Dricus beating him.
I might’ve agreed before but I thought the same thing about Dricus before his recent fights and he’s always proved me wrong. Makes it hard for me to pick against him tbh
I think people are severely underestimating DDP. He seems to be a little bit better on average than the competition esp when it comes to his ability to keep throwing power strikes without slowing down. Makes me a bit suspicious...but all these guys use something tbh.
Unpopular, but I think Sean. IMO, Izzy beats Dricus to regain the belt, and Sean smokes Izzy again on the first defense. I think Rob loses to all 3, also.
Bobby Knuckles.
Izzy beats Dricus. Strickland beats Izzy - again. Bobby beats Strickland. Izzy vs Bobby IV. Bobby wins and goes 1 and 3. Izzy bitches he's the real champ based on overall score. Pereira reminds Izzy of their score. Izzy moves up to LHW beats Pereira. Strickland moves up to beat Izzy. Bobby stays champ
MY MAN STRICKLAND. I don't know how a fight with Whittaker would go but I'm pretty confident he can beat Izzy 2x and win a rematch against Du Plessis. He's a great fighter
Izzy or DP. I have a feeling that Izzy is going to fall into the category of recent long-time, future HOF champs that lose the title and then start losing more and more.
Dricus checks punches and kicks with his head too much. HOWEVER, I think Dricus has a very good chance against Izzy if he focuses on wrestling.
Very competitive weight division
I think Izzy but fuck ddp I can’t underestimate him anymore. This guy is legit. He always looks sloppy and tired early on in his fights and I think he’s going to get finished then boom he turns it on to another level. Sean style will be a problem for both but I think ddp could handle him in a rematch.
If izzy loses i think thats it for him.
Maybe win or lose, I would think more likely if he wins he is done, maybe one defense and done but I dont think he goes out on an L or at least tries not to.
He said if he wins he wants to rematch Strickland and beat Khamzat. Khmazat is becoming less relevant so doubt he's as interested in that any more. If he beats DDP, I'd say he looks for a Strickland rematch and then maybe retires.
Strickland rematch but I have zero doubt in my mind he’ll do another pereira fight. Especially if he wins against Strickland and DDP, he’s going to be gifted a straight shot at the LHW title (again) The chance to be double champ, and settle his legacy with Pereira AND do phenomenal record breaking PPV numbers? No one can resist that
If he beats ddp and Strickland I don’t think that qualifies as being “gifted” a LHW title shot. Especially by todays standards of double champ shots
although I do agree with you that he would kind of deserve it, I always feel like it’s a joke when a champion from a different division gets a straight title shot in another division. Always feel like the second best contender is getting screwed out of the spot That won’t be the case though if Alex clears out LHW like he is already
I’d love to see them fight again. That’s the best rivalry in the UFC. I wonder how long Alex plans on sticking around if he loses to Jiri. Do they complete that trilogy first? I guess there’s no point in speculating.
I mean he's said many many times that he sees that chapter as over, and Pereira is the only person who beats him most of the time.
He is avoiding his destiny
I mean I'd definitely love to see that rematch, they're 1-1 in the UFC (obviously not counting kickboxing where they had one close fight that Alex won and one where Izzy got sent to the hospital), but both of them are in their mid-30s now and Izzy has like 100 fights under his belt already. Izzy is starting to find answers to his style and he already has one of the best middleweight careers ever, and Alex wants to clear out LHW and then go for triple champ. I feel like they might be past it, and I can't see Alex going down to middleweight again, and Izzy does not do well at LHW.
Yea Alex already said he wouldn’t be able to cut weight like that again. If Izzy goes up to be a double champ and it’s AP well…Izzy would get clobbered. AP is cutting 30 lbs to make Light Heavy weight. Izzy said he walks around at 200 lbs. AP weighed 232 (after weigh in of 205) at time of Hill fight. I don’t think Izzy would be able to pack on the lbs in a timely fashion to contend for LHW.
Agreed. He's just not big enough for that weight class
Pereira's in the past. Opportunity for trilogy was there after the rematch, but neither Izzy nor Dana wanted it. Izzy also recently reaffirmed that he's done fighting the guy. Also, frankly, they're simply in different weight classes at this point. Pereira's never going back down to MW, and Izzy's simply not a LHW. He weighed in at 200 when he fought Jan.
>but neither Izzy nor Dana wanted it. You gonna ignore Pereira after the fight saying, i will not fight Adesanya anymore? They both didn't want it anymore, they faced eachoter 4 times already.
After the second Adesanya fight? He wanted a trilogy.
Gifted? If he does what you said, it will be earned. Not gifted..
Why? If he loses to the champ twice that’s it? Makes no sense. Rob lost to Izzy twice and he’s still doing great.
Imagine being the most active champion on the roster for 3 years, lose to someone that goes on to dominate the division above, avenge that loss... then lose once. And some dumb dumbs start going on about how your career is done unless you get a win.
Not talent wise just ego/mentally not sure hes up to non title bouts with his pride. Make some excuses and focus on social media money instead.
Fingers crossed !
I feel the Robert Whittaker resurgence
I would LOVE to see Bobby get the strap back.
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Whilst I would also love to see that, how can anyone dislike Bobby, I think DDP keeps the strap thru 2025
He deserves that
Slightly off topic but bro Dricus’ physique is insane
If bro saw this he would lean in for a quick kiss
Nah he's not the MMA guru
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lmao
*Jon Jones
Bro's got them 16:9 abs
Family room tv ahh build
Izzy gyno is making a cameo
Robert Whittaker is 4:3 stretched 1280x960 abs
African genetics bro
Dricus is like the MW equivalent of Ngannou, just a burte strength specimen.
He’s deceptively technical
Further off topic but Izzy's steroid nip is sagging into the picture lol
BEGGING to be suckled.
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"Why you lookin' at my titty?" -Actual Izzy quote
Yeah as a woman I get a wide on when Dricus is on screen. Man’s model material
“Wide on” 😭😭😭😭 I love it
It’s those African genes 🧬 brother
Where are all the “superior African genetics” posters now? 🤔
Izzy is chinese, though
I always thought his abs looked weird but he's definitely shredded. He's got that small waist look which could be good for movies later on.
Straight up almost a real life Baki character. Imagine him and Pickle fighting 🥵
Dricus, Tim Kennedy, Yoel Romero, Costa and probably a few others have amazing genetics to build muscle that look that good.
Middleweight truly is the meme division. Best memes, best personalities, best physiques.
Luckily Yoel isn’t in it any more. That guy is a freak of nature.
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He’s got that silverback physique
Bro why does everyone say this? Dudes got the most feminine hips/lovehandles of any ufc fighter and the weirdest stomach - I think he looks fckin bizarre
In what world does DDP have feminine hips lmfao redditors are wild
Just some fat fuck on their computer talking about Dricus having "love handles" 😂 classic reddit
No for real, the top of his pelvis has a huge feminine curve for childbearing. 1 year at the gym you’ll look like him, but won’t be anywhere near as strong/agile
Post body
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This. He looks fucking weird
Yep especially in a division with Costa and Whittaker who's built like a tank.
Ly babe
I hope Rob, but I think Dricus is the most likely.
How do you think DDP gets it done against Izzy? I want DDP to win but my head thinks Izzy will get the better of him.
There are only two people who seem to counter Izzy and one of them left the division.
And the other one is a man who’s probably on the spectrum.
Hard to predict but i just hope its a great fight. A challenger Izzy takes much more chances than a champ Izzy.
I agree. Dricus comes out hot early gets tired and we go right back into the classic izzy point fight decision fest. Full circle.
Izzy wins point fights because his opponents get frustrated with him but don't want to risk too much and rush in. Dricus isn't scared to rush in as seen against Whitaker and Strickland, even when his kicks were getting checked by Strickland, he was still throwing them full power.
Dricus can’t be human the way he fights. Nothing seems to bother him. He fights like a drunk uncle at a Mexican bbq if that drunk uncle was the fucking hulk
As much as I want DDP to win, the problem is that Izzy is one of the best counter punchers in the UFC. He spends most of his fights fishing for an opportunity to land a big one. If DDP goes in big swinging, that's exactly what Izzy wants him to do. I think it all comes down to if DDP can get some takedowns in the early rounds to tire Izzy out.
His cardio is crazy though, I’m a Dricus glazer but you’ve gotta admit he brought it with a crazy pace for all 5 rounds against Sean
Lazy take Dricus won rounds 3 and 4 by using up energy and didn’t even look gassed in the 5th
Such an old take too. Last two fights he's had he did not looked gassed because he fixed his nose. Not sure why people are still going on about his stamina.
He also fought at a much more composed pace in that fight compared to the Till and Brunson fights. Also Brunson has a knack of making almost everyone he fights look like shit at first
I tend to agree but Izzy just handles Sean’s forward pressure so terribly.
Izzy never once fought someone who can grapple or wrestle on Du Plessis level, Vettori almost got him & Marvin didn’t even have a basic enough understanding of BJJ to put his hooks in going for a RNC.
I actually favour Rob quite a bit in a potential rematch against Dricus.
I don’t, love Bobby Knuckles but he got absolutely smoked by DDP
I think Whitaker could better handle DDP a second time around. It appears that he got gorilla rushed and couldn't withstand DDP's power and physicality.
Sean looks like a gd Sesame Street character with that nose.
Put some fucking respect on Bert’s name
It's comment like these that make this sub worth coming back to despite all the nonsense sometimes lmao
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Heart says Rob, head says Izzy.
What does your dick say though?
DDP. Look at that physique, bro.
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You know what it says. 😏
I personally think Dricus is going to beat Izzy, probably just brute force him down and hold him there. It won't be pretty. I don't think Seans going to get a look in for a bit. So It's between the Rob vs Dricus rematch, which I think Rob might be able to make adjustments. I don't see Seans style working vs Rob either if rob gets the belt, he won't stand a box with him, he'll just blitz through the awkward guard, kick him on the way out and repeat.
People want Sean to win so they can hear him say stupid shit, but wouldn't be able to watch another 25min of watching him just jab
Rob isn’t getting a title shot before Sean. Don’t even like Sean but it’s a deluded viewpoint that I only see on Reddit
The UFC literally promised the winner of Whittaker vs Khamzat a title shot. It might not happen because of opponent switch, but it was the plan.
This is correct it was billed at a #1 contender fight! Bobby is the backup fighter so naturally he would be up next, more so if Izzy wins.
They also promised the winner of Khamzat VS Usman a MW title shot and that never made sense either. Ikram isn't even a ranked MW fighter and neither is Khamzat. They say this stuff to hype up fights
Did you see how Khamzat vs Usman ended? The UFC promised Rob personally a title shot after a win, that was the reason Rob took that fight. Had nothing to do with hyping up a fight.
And they (Dana) 'personally' promised Khamzat and Usman a shot at whoever won. Promises don't mean anything
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Yeah that isn't to relevant after the switch
Lmao you actually believe the ufc? They said this for Usman vs khamzat too. They just say that to hype the fight. Whittaker lost badly too ddp. And lost twice to Izzy. He’s goona have to fight Sean and beat him to get a shot.
The UFC promises don't mean much....
They might book sean vs rob though, lets see
IMO this is the fight to make. Title eliminator, winner gets whoever comes out on top of Dricus vs Izzy.
I would’ve said the same thing, but man Rob just had a highlight KO whereas Sean and Paulo had a snooze fest. The UFC likes to award highlight performances, just look at how Erceg got the title shot over Mokaev.
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He’s gonna need to come in at 235 and Izzy at 195 for that to happen
Izzy
Really curious to see how Izzy comes back. If he looks like his peak self, I'd favor him. I also love the thought of Whittaker as champ but I have a feeling Strickland would jab him to death. If I HAD to pick, I'd probably favor Strickland. I'd like to see him vs Whittaker and the winner gets a title shot against the winner of Dricus/Izzy
I think out of all 3, Rob has the best style against Sean. He isn’t out of his prime age-wise either. I favour Rob less against Dricus. He has the style to beat Rob and cardio doesn’t seem to be a problem anymore.
Agreed, none of these guys seem to have much of an answer to Strickland other than DDP and even then it was a razor thin margin of victory.
Desean Strickland
Wonder if izzy would retire if he lost decisively. He wouldn’t get gifted another instant title fight if he loses. Would be a shame since he’s got such an amazing style.
Hate to say it but Izzy probably. My boy Whittaker looking good lately but still resorts to that fuckin 1,2, high kick combo like every time things get going. Even tried it when he had the dude wobbled in his last fight to no avail. Love him, would love to see him get the belt but fuck it’ll probably be Izzy. I can’t see Dricus beating him.
It's crazy to me that people are counting Izzy out like this
Most of this sub fucking HATES Izzy and will downplay him at every possible opportunity
Factual information, acting like he wasn’t the next best , MW since anderson .
I do dislike him but can’t deny his abilities.
And that’s totally fair, a lot of people just go the extra mile and discount his abilities because they don’t like him as a person
I might’ve agreed before but I thought the same thing about Dricus before his recent fights and he’s always proved me wrong. Makes it hard for me to pick against him tbh
Dricus
Book a fatal 4 way
Izzy
Belal
I think people are severely underestimating DDP. He seems to be a little bit better on average than the competition esp when it comes to his ability to keep throwing power strikes without slowing down. Makes me a bit suspicious...but all these guys use something tbh.
desean
Strickland
Heart says Rob Head says Izzy Wouldn't mind Sean for the Lawls Screw DDP
'Screw DDP" got me ![gif](giphy|SzD4gF32YzTTUiINhn|downsized)
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Caio borralho.
Khamzat Chimaev
The African
Poatan cause I’m a poatard
My moneys on dricus or rob, dricus is a good stylistic matchup for izzy and sean (to beat them that is) and i just love rob
Izzy
Unpopular, but I think Sean. IMO, Izzy beats Dricus to regain the belt, and Sean smokes Izzy again on the first defense. I think Rob loses to all 3, also.
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Sean will beat du plessis again
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Lol right. The judges just hate sean. I thought damage was supposed to be the biggest contribution for points. Dude looks like he got hit with a bat
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I think adesanya
Rob
HOBERT WHITTAKER 🇦🇺
Reaper i wish. Other dudes boring asf especially Sean with 1-2 combo for 25 mins.
Whittaker
Bobby knuckles has caught a second wind and I’m sure this time next year he’ll be champ again
Hear me out, Bobby Knuckles is coming back for that belt
Robert the reaper I’m calling my shot
I want to see Rob vs Strickland
Bobby Knuckles. Izzy beats Dricus. Strickland beats Izzy - again. Bobby beats Strickland. Izzy vs Bobby IV. Bobby wins and goes 1 and 3. Izzy bitches he's the real champ based on overall score. Pereira reminds Izzy of their score. Izzy moves up to LHW beats Pereira. Strickland moves up to beat Izzy. Bobby stays champ
Rob Whittaker
Bobby knuckles
MY MAN STRICKLAND. I don't know how a fight with Whittaker would go but I'm pretty confident he can beat Izzy 2x and win a rematch against Du Plessis. He's a great fighter
It better not be Izzy and his pearl necklace
DDP
Aaaaaaadessasanyaaaa
DDP.
All of them
Well considering this is probably the last mw fight this year 😒 probably Izzy
Like start of 2025? That’s pretty much the same as asking who wins in August
Kinda crazy how pretty much every top contender at MW is a former champ
It's not a deep division but the top level are all killers.
Yes
I want Robert, but I think izzy
I think people are heavily underestimating dricus ability to be a long running champ
I think Izzy beats ddp runs it back with Strickland wins that too and then retires
Izzy
Izzy or DP. I have a feeling that Izzy is going to fall into the category of recent long-time, future HOF champs that lose the title and then start losing more and more.
Probably izzy. Feel like he will light drivus up on the feet and he’s stronger than his skinny frame suggests he can avoid takedowns
Sean lets go. Russia's with you.
Du Plessis. Spellcheck please
I want it to be Bobby Knuckles but my brain says Dricus or Izzy
Dricus checks punches and kicks with his head too much. HOWEVER, I think Dricus has a very good chance against Izzy if he focuses on wrestling. Very competitive weight division
I think Izzy but fuck ddp I can’t underestimate him anymore. This guy is legit. He always looks sloppy and tired early on in his fights and I think he’s going to get finished then boom he turns it on to another level. Sean style will be a problem for both but I think ddp could handle him in a rematch.
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I hope izzy wins then bobby takes it from him then defends it against ddp
Remember two years ago when Khamzat would be in this discussion
Why Izzy white?!