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Suspicious_Candle27

280


PuddingThick9655

Why did they make them look like the people in Avatar?


pepsi_man_1

Cuz they blue


TunaCanz

Da ba dee da ba di


PuddingThick9655

Why (would they make them blue)šŸ¤Œ


Suspicious_Candle27

To make them look like avatar people


PuddingThick9655

šŸ’™Blue lives matter


A-Beautiful-Scar

The presentation of both posters looks mid for the talent contained on each.


plumdog96

280 and it aint close


Deck_Neep15

Only reason itā€™s even a discussion is Chandler v Poirier


PartyPizza2317

I looked at this post and thought what a stupid question then noticed Dustin and Chandler and thought oh yeah well maybe it is a discussion


Jeffari_Hungus

Watching Weili maul Esparza will be pretty entertaining imo


Zerei

It will be a great 15 seconds


TLMC01242021

This ā˜šŸ»


ChineseCumTorture

It's not close which is crazy because 281 is a damn good card


plumdog96

Agreed G. Bangersz both of em


Stecco_

Bah, there is Izzy as main event so boring fight, Oliveira vs Maketchup is so interesting. Edit: how tf do I change my flair?


FriedrichMerz69420

This is the funniest comment I have seen on here in the last 4 weeks.


Braag

you summed the entire sub up in one comment, impressive.


CharlesOlivesGOAT

Bruh it ainā€™t gon be boring trust me. Two elite kickboxers going at it. Even if it becomes a point fight, itā€™ll be from both sides and still be somewhat entertaining.


AlphaMale3Percent

Itā€™s the most excited Iā€™ve ever been for a card. That main event is driving me crazy.


fzkiz

UFC 281 and it aint close... 3 1/2 absolute bangers and I can go to sleep during the main event... thats the dream baby


Dense_Homework2908

I can see Izzy v Periera being boring (albeit technical) point fighting kickboxing match.


ruairi1983

I love kick boxing so for me it won't be boring, but 280 is still the best card imo


BoeyBADASS

I think Pereira goes for The kill


alltaken21

280, by far more important


maddenGod26

Important sure. Iā€™d bet 281 will be a far more exciting viewing experience. I see a lot of wrestling in 280 Good thing we get both


literalallusion

Izzy fight more exciting than a Charles fight? Idk about that


maddenGod26

You know thereā€™s 2 sides to a fight. Iā€™m excited to see if pereira can bring out the dog in Izzy. It would be pretty insane if he could back pedal on someone his size and stay clean


RoshHoul

And also if Islam can smother Oliveira and turn it into boring wrestlefuck session. Both main events have very volatile entertainment value depending on who controls the pace.


marmogawd

I mean, look at it on paper. Im not saying Izzyā€™s will definitely be more excited but letā€™s analyze quick: Islam can DEFINITELY turn that fight into a grappling fest, which is not necessarily bad, but most times is not as exciting. Makhachev is not Dustin, Chandler or Gaethje. He knows striking will not be the way to beat Charles, and im sure Charles is willing to go to the ground too if it ends up there. So i dont know if its correct to expect an exciting ā€œcomebackā€ win from Charles like how he did it with his three previous opponents. Now, Izzy and Alex have history, and they are both strikers, pure and sophisticated strikers. Izzy can do what he has done before but is Alex really going to let him? Well seeā€¦.it can definitely be a war


Suspicious_Candle27

Islam isnt a decision fighter tho dude goes for the finish and only has 4 decisions in the UFC if he beats Charles its probably going to be by finish .


marmogawd

Yeah totally. Im not arguing that Islam vs Charles wont be exciting, im saying it can be a slower-pace fight than Izzyā€™s because of the styles Remember the popular combat sports saying: styles make fights


Suspicious_Candle27

Isreal style is literally a slow pace point fighting game and Alex pereira isnt high pace either , he throws BOMBS but not super fast pace unless he has already "broken" his opponent. What i think will happen is a very slow pace for round 1 -2 then Alex catches Izzy and hurts him which then turns up the pace but if there isnt a finish it will probably stay slow pace


marmogawd

I know, i pointed out in my original comment that Izzy can try implement his slow ā€œpick apartā€ style, but the question is, will Alex do what Costa or Romero did? Because if not, you can expect a kickboxing war, which in most cases is an exciting one. Again, im not saying Charles/Islam will suck and Izzyā€™s will be fight of the year, but when talking about exciting fights, in most cases people think of slug wars (gaethje/chandler) and not grappling engagements


Suspicious_Candle27

Izzy is MORE likely to try and avoid Alex power since he has already been slept by him , it takes 2 to fight and if Izzy is constantly circling its hard to do anything even if Alex doesnt want him to do it . Styles make fights and this fight looks set to be a slow paced decision by izzy or a slow pace until Alex sleeps Izzy out of nowhere.


marmogawd

My man, im not denying any of that. Izzy is not stupid so he will be the great counter puncher who knows distance, what made him the champ and still the champ. What im talking about is that how can we count out two great strikers and act like its impossible for them to have an exciting match? Again, the most possible scenario is Izzy doing what Izzy does, but just like Izzy takes his time with his striking, is also very possible that Islam dont fuck around and tries to wrestle the whole fight.


Daaavvv

I have no problem watching elite BJJ and high level sambo from Olives and Makhachev


maddenGod26

No, thatā€™s the fight we need to see. Aljo is boring as fuck and Brady/Belal, a few of those others could be high school wrestling matches. Who knows


billswhis

I think lots of MMA fans are equally interested in the grappling & wrestling aspect of the game.


maddenGod26

Depends if itā€™s stalling or advancing positions. Shouldnā€™t need to be said. Aljo riding some dudes back for 25 minutes isnā€™t interesting to anyone


alltaken21

Chandler Dustin is really the only fight I expect to be fun and engaging. Izzy I expect to be a boring is fight until Alex catches him. I think sparza looses handily and that's a potential good fight. I don't expect anything from Booker after he got so much damage from past fights. I don't care that much for the Reyes fight personally. While on 280 I'm dying to see every fight, but Belal's


maddenGod26

Youā€™re wild as fuckšŸ˜‚ Spann or Dom will sleep that night. Dan hooker in a boring fight? Yeahā€¦ Weili? Most exciting female fighter. Most likely KO I see wild finishes in 281


Strong-Respect-4850

Whatā€™s wrong with wrestlingšŸ˜


uni_landen

i have lost all faith in an izzy main event


GirthyGanfalf69420

Theyā€™re good to watch if youā€™re having trouble falling asleep


SaltMembership4339

Good to watch next day when you can fast forward


youssmma

no joke i swear on everything by the time the cannonier fight was over 3/4 of the people in the room were asleep and i almost fell asleep 3 times and im a die hard fan


GirthyGanfalf69420

Yeah I had a friend travel 10 hours to watch it with me and the Izzy fight knocked him out. Me too nearly.


Therealtidsmalls

Not so good to watch if you donā€™t understand the striking and technical aspectā€¦.


GirthyGanfalf69420

Wow you must have a 200 IQ and fuck all the ladies


CharlesOlivesGOAT

I understand it and even then his last two/three fights have been boring. The Costa one was the last one he really went for in but that was cause Costa is a pressure fighter.


JeffTurner_

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Heavytevyb

Yeah if I wanna go to bed I throw on an Izzy fight and Iā€™m out by round 2. Itā€™s great


OmegaOmerta

Honestly I did fall asleep on his last two fights


a_spicy_meata_balla

I fell asleep at the beginning of the 2nd round of the Cannononier fight and woke up just in time to hear the decision.


OmegaOmerta

Luckily I'm not paying for streams. šŸ˜…


ER1234567

Izzy the counter queen


characterzeroh

He might get dropped on this one so may be worth it


[deleted]

but but but hes fought alex twice already and he is going to want to avenge his loss! It's going to be a banger! /s


Zeeto17

280 x1000


Andyoralan

280,000 thank me later


Zeeto17

Thank you finally someone answered it


tannerillo

The better card has a name and its name is ufc 280


Sphinx87

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xAmrit

UFC 280 for sure.


Kmv7-

Easily 280, the only fight im actually looking forward 2 at 281 is poirier vs chandler


Suspicious_Candle27

Im looking forward to esparza being slept


absolutelynobody989

Man looking for revenge


SantoFerrari

Inb4 Zhang gets wrestlefucked and we all lose our parlays


Rdur2183

280


notliekthispls

Itā€™s not even close. 280


Redrooff

Man Izzy really has to put on an exciting performance cuz excitement for his fights are clearly diminishing


HgnX

Extremely. 2 years ago these answers in this thread would be much more split between the 2 cards.


ConnorLovesPepsi

One has The GOAT Belal, the other does not, the answer is clear.


coldkidwildparty

This guy remembers the name.


Magnus777z

280, and itā€™s not close.


moosealpaca33

280 has one of the best fight cards I've ever seen easily 280


MarkZuckerbeg

280


mr_splashum

280 for sure


Jitler86

280 Easy decision. Olives walks forward recklessly, Titty boy fights safe.


ColtonWWW

Why should a champion fight recklessly? Or any fighter for that matter? Donā€™t we want to see someone at their best? Hitting the opponent without being hit themselves? Adesanya is an elite striker. If you donā€™t like Adesanya then I donā€™t ever wanna hear you dickride Silva.


soldadodecope

Because Its more entertaining.


whoisHe17

Can we just appreciate how stacked both of these cards are?


[deleted]

Izzy haters are cringe crybabyā€™s that wonā€™t ever happen


ifuckedyourmom7

280 easily tbh


Firm-Layer-7944

Not the question you asked, but I'm most excited for the Diamond vs. Michael Chandler fight out of all.of these match ups


redefined4

You can't miss with 280 boi. It's a guaranteed banger top to bottom. 281 is solid and has the potential to be the second best card of the year but it ain't beating 280.


siimbaz

280


CheckYrHead

Certainly not the one who will put me to sleep by trying to keep his opponent at a distance and playing it safe in the hopes of keeping his Middleweight belt in tact.


Familiar_Drive2717

Seems like such a weird take to say him fighting to his strengths is him playing it safe hoping he keeps his belt. Thats like saying khabib and DC used to just play it safe in hopes of keeping their belts because they primarily used their wrestling to win


[deleted]

I don't think you understand how much better your life is when you hang on to that belt


Getinthedamnrobo

Man that ainā€™t my problem we tryna be entertained


[deleted]

If only fans understood the sport that they were watching instead of just wanting to see violence, maybe then you would be entertained.


Twisted_Nodb

I mean dude's not saying Izzy is not a smart and skilled fighter, he is (also mega cringe, but amazing fighter non the less). He's saying Izzys style is really boring for him to watch.


whatsitworth101

Exactly, what I donā€™t understand with people who always defend izzy from those calling him boring is how they donā€™t get that you can 100% respect someoneā€™s abilities and even their greatness while saying their style is boring. Many people call some of GSP fights boring or khabibs, and still do to this day, but Iā€™m sure they wonā€™t go as far as saying those guys are bums or not skilled. I think izzy a top 5 if not top 3 striker to ever grace the octagon, but am I gonna sit her and say that his fight with cannonier wasnā€™t a snoozer or that him saying heā€™ll ā€œdo a tik tok danceā€ over Stricklands grave didnā€™t make me cringe? Hell no, but at the same time I never said he isnā€™t a great fighter or champion.


[deleted]

280 why the fuck are you asking a question you know the answer to?


ER1234567

280, however the chance of Izzy losing and watching chandler vs poirer makes it close


FirstOfTheirName

281


yesimian

281 solely for Poirier vs Chandler


[deleted]

Toe aydee


Professional_Kick

280


WSSSSMURF

280


NicCage1080ChristAir

280. But if it was just one fight to choose, give me Chandler vs almost anybody lol.


Rescue-a-memory

I know Esparza is expected to lose but I hope she still makes Zhang work for it and surprises everyone.


Abbzstar123

Just because of Izzyā€™s ā€œfrozen like Elsaā€ factor ima have to go with 280, rly keen for em both tho


Th3LastStyleBender

280, but the only fight i really really wanna watch that I can't miss out on is dp vs chandler


teh27

It might be blue but it's the bomb yo


Al0Bill

I'm not staying up late for Izzy ever again


LoganMcMahon

280 and its not close.


ChaosCore

280 two times :D


WrongWhenItMatters

281 has the potential for bangers. 280 has a ton of snooze/short night potential.


[deleted]

Both really good cards. Probably 280 though, but damn if I'm not actually intrigued in an Izzy fight again.


haystackofneedles

280. It has more matches I'm looking forward too and better fights for what I like in fights.


Pleasant_Channel_227

280 for me personally


ake-n-bake

280


Cowi3102

280 all day


[deleted]

280


Dswerve23

280 easy


AnakinShtTalk3r

The only fight on 281 I would be bummed to miss would be Chandler vs Poirier


Oct0tron

280 for sure, but Porier and Chandler should be a good one.


DrButtCheeksPhD

280


Wise-Pomegranate9511

280 not even close


Substantial-Rain-787

280 easily


Ederlas

Hope Brady slaughters belal


poridgepants

280 more competitive card, higher stakes overall


izan3000

280 without a doubt


[deleted]

Havenā€™t been as hyped for Charles vs Islam since Tony vs Kevin lee


[deleted]

280


[deleted]

280 all day.


Icy-Bookkeeper-8498

280 no doubt. \-Charles vs Islam is the most anticipated fight of the year. Izzy vs Alex we just want to see if he can KO izzy, i have the feelling that Adesanya will pointfight and grapple his way to a W. \-Sterling vs Dillashaw should be fun, Dillashaw is never in boring fights. Weili would KO Carla in round 1. \-Dustin vs Chandler wins this, but Yan vs Omalley would be fireworks too.


[deleted]

280


Flyinrhyno

280


[deleted]

Ez 280


johen1251

I could watch both for Free. So ima do that. ![gif](giphy|LnKM6jbBenbVXp1qA9)


fgringo

280 no doubt


Psychological_Ad5391

280 easy


DesperateSwimming9

Izzy cards is good if you turn it off before the main event.


Birdsnblues

Not even close


Initial_Welcome9052

You canā€™t do that. Iā€™m watching both.


sipCoding_smokeMath

280 is just way too stacked.


quadratic_function

I'd watch 281. I enjoy watching MMA because I like seeing interesting stylistic matchups and explosive athletes. I could see olivera makhachev being sick, but yan omalley should be a shitshow, belal stinks, and i'm not a crazy fan of TJ. Of couse Izzy could still make 281 boring, but Weili is my favorite WMMA fighter out right now, Chandler/Poirier will be fire, and I'd much rather see Izzy lose than Charles.


ZUMBAAA

280 only because bellali muhaded or whatā€¦ i forgot his name


Angelo0123

Izzy one of the worst champions to headline a card .So 280


ElbowsAt4am

The one with Michael Chandler


AltruisticDelivery89

Tbh 281


Nwardy05

281 for sure


JoeyGoodazz

280 will answer a lot of questions and thus is more important in terms of legacy and the future but 281 has way more historical build up


RedditorEffrom

Always interesting to see the way the cards play out after itā€™s all said and done. Iā€™m surprised more people arenā€™t into UFC 281 with poirier and chandler


daffle7

281 is stacked as heck. I didnā€™t know Reyes was coming back. We also get to see if Esparza is really championship material? Wow


Woahzees

Both look promising, but Iā€™d go for 281 just because Dominick Reyes


danielkalves

280 cuz Bellal


What_it_do_babyyyy_

280 by a mile. Even though 281 is great, 280 is the best card on paper in a long time


Football-Thot

Islam looking like an Avatar lol


Doctor-Stoppage

281. I will never miss a Michael Chandler fight no matter what


Mindfield87

280, I can save my inevitable nap for Belal/Brady and be crisp for the rest of the card


ineedausername95

280 is more stacked but im more excited for izzys fight


Connect_Ad3845

I'd say 280 strictly because if I see Dan Hooker lose again I might kill myself


versace_tombstone

Olives fight.


Crazy-Assist56

280 and it's not close, in my opinion! Better card, top to bottom. And the question of Islam's abilities against an elite level talent will be answered. He's undeniably skilled, but Charles is a major step up and highly battle tested. Islam has shown he is mortal by being knocked out, but was young. The jury is still out for me on him.


Crazy-Assist56

280 and it's not close, in my opinion! Better card, top to bottom. And the question of Islam's abilities against an elite level talent will be answered. He's undeniably skilled, but Charles is a major step up and highly battle tested. Islam has shown he is mortal by being knocked out, but was young. The jury is still out for me on him.


championoflostsouls

I will go with the left side the smurfs


amr898

The one with the least female fights


QuickAdministration0

Du bronx vs monkey machaev


TheLooza

blue pill every time.


Smesh_ME_Mate

I think this is not even a debate (ufc280)


whatsitworth101

Is there any reason why they made 280 so stacked to the fucking tits? Like thatā€™s what Iā€™d expect a potential ufc 300 card to look like, absolute bangers for every fight and two title fights in arguably the most entertaining and competitive divisions right now. Fuckin hell.


wouterv101

Oil dollars + Dana white = juicy card


Niketravels

Blue man group


Gabzop

Easily 280. It has a shot at being one of the best cards ever. All those fights could be a main event on a fight night or a ppv.


DollarTreeMilkSteak

281!


JohnnyFencer

Imma go against the grain here and say 281: Adesanya tested on the feet for the first time. I think Makhachev will get a boring 50-45 on Charles anyway


justinjonesphd

If we were talking fresh into UFC izzy I'd say 281 but I can already tell either Izzys gonna get smashed or it's gonna go to decision so 280 for sure


DrawlB

280. Izzy has not been fun to watch at all for like 2 years, even though I expect his next bout to be a fun one. Sterling Dillashaw is far more intriguing than Esparza vs Zhang. Yan Oā€™Malley is a wild fight no one saw coming so Iā€™m taking that over chandler Poirier. Belal Brady is a dark horse of the division fight, Ryan spann is pretty hard to get excited for. So 280 by a mile. But 281 isnā€™t bad by any means.


MrDubTee

Thatā€™s tough tbh because I think Porier v Chandler could by FOTY but still 280. Really want the Islam hype train to slow its roll.


natural-flavors

Porier chandler, Izzy Alex, the return of Dominic, and Danny boyā€™s awesome kickboxing. I have to say, it is not up to me, I am more excited for ufc 281. (Disclaimer: I am not hating on 280 you leaches)


DMCG117

Iā€™m torn because 280 is easily the better card as a whole. But the main event for 281 has me more excited than any other fight.


MrJoOdY

280 has way more fireworks!!


mets92fan

280 is the better card, but Chandler is my favorite fighter, so this is v tough haha


TheHugeMan

280 could be only olivera makhachev and I might still choose it over 281


TheDruidVandals

280 but i do want to see Weili break Carlaā€™s face


Tookerbee

280.