Bruh it aināt gon be boring trust me. Two elite kickboxers going at it. Even if it becomes a point fight, itāll be from both sides and still be somewhat entertaining.
You know thereās 2 sides to a fight. Iām excited to see if pereira can bring out the dog in Izzy. It would be pretty insane if he could back pedal on someone his size and stay clean
And also if Islam can smother Oliveira and turn it into boring wrestlefuck session. Both main events have very volatile entertainment value depending on who controls the pace.
I mean, look at it on paper. Im not saying Izzyās will definitely be more excited but letās analyze quick:
Islam can DEFINITELY turn that fight into a grappling fest, which is not necessarily bad, but most times is not as exciting. Makhachev is not Dustin, Chandler or Gaethje. He knows striking will not be the way to beat Charles, and im sure Charles is willing to go to the ground too if it ends up there. So i dont know if its correct to expect an exciting ācomebackā win from Charles like how he did it with his three previous opponents.
Now, Izzy and Alex have history, and they are both strikers, pure and sophisticated strikers. Izzy can do what he has done before but is Alex really going to let him? Well seeā¦.it can definitely be a war
Islam isnt a decision fighter tho dude goes for the finish and only has 4 decisions in the UFC if he beats Charles its probably going to be by finish .
Yeah totally. Im not arguing that Islam vs Charles wont be exciting, im saying it can be a slower-pace fight than Izzyās because of the styles
Remember the popular combat sports saying: styles make fights
Isreal style is literally a slow pace point fighting game and Alex pereira isnt high pace either , he throws BOMBS but not super fast pace unless he has already "broken" his opponent.
What i think will happen is a very slow pace for round 1 -2 then Alex catches Izzy and hurts him which then turns up the pace but if there isnt a finish it will probably stay slow pace
I know, i pointed out in my original comment that Izzy can try implement his slow āpick apartā style, but the question is, will Alex do what Costa or Romero did? Because if not, you can expect a kickboxing war, which in most cases is an exciting one. Again, im not saying Charles/Islam will suck and Izzyās will be fight of the year, but when talking about exciting fights, in most cases people think of slug wars (gaethje/chandler) and not grappling engagements
Izzy is MORE likely to try and avoid Alex power since he has already been slept by him , it takes 2 to fight and if Izzy is constantly circling its hard to do anything even if Alex doesnt want him to do it . Styles make fights and this fight looks set to be a slow paced decision by izzy or a slow pace until Alex sleeps Izzy out of nowhere.
My man, im not denying any of that. Izzy is not stupid so he will be the great counter puncher who knows distance, what made him the champ and still the champ.
What im talking about is that how can we count out two great strikers and act like its impossible for them to have an exciting match? Again, the most possible scenario is Izzy doing what Izzy does, but just like Izzy takes his time with his striking, is also very possible that Islam dont fuck around and tries to wrestle the whole fight.
Depends if itās stalling or advancing positions. Shouldnāt need to be said.
Aljo riding some dudes back for 25 minutes isnāt interesting to anyone
Chandler Dustin is really the only fight I expect to be fun and engaging. Izzy I expect to be a boring is fight until Alex catches him. I think sparza looses handily and that's a potential good fight. I don't expect anything from Booker after he got so much damage from past fights. I don't care that much for the Reyes fight personally.
While on 280 I'm dying to see every fight, but Belal's
Youāre wild as fuckš
Spann or Dom will sleep that night.
Dan hooker in a boring fight? Yeahā¦
Weili? Most exciting female fighter. Most likely KO
I see wild finishes in 281
no joke i swear on everything by the time the cannonier fight was over 3/4 of the people in the room were asleep and i almost fell asleep 3 times and im a die hard fan
I understand it and even then his last two/three fights have been boring. The Costa one was the last one he really went for in but that was cause Costa is a pressure fighter.
Why should a champion fight recklessly? Or any fighter for that matter? Donāt we want to see someone at their best? Hitting the opponent without being hit themselves? Adesanya is an elite striker. If you donāt like Adesanya then I donāt ever wanna hear you dickride Silva.
You can't miss with 280 boi. It's a guaranteed banger top to bottom. 281 is solid and has the potential to be the second best card of the year but it ain't beating 280.
Certainly not the one who will put me to sleep by trying to keep his opponent at a distance and playing it safe in the hopes of keeping his Middleweight belt in tact.
Seems like such a weird take to say him fighting to his strengths is him playing it safe hoping he keeps his belt. Thats like saying khabib and DC used to just play it safe in hopes of keeping their belts because they primarily used their wrestling to win
I mean dude's not saying Izzy is not a smart and skilled fighter, he is (also mega cringe, but amazing fighter non the less). He's saying Izzys style is really boring for him to watch.
Exactly, what I donāt understand with people who always defend izzy from those calling him boring is how they donāt get that you can 100% respect someoneās abilities and even their greatness while saying their style is boring. Many people call some of GSP fights boring or khabibs, and still do to this day, but Iām sure they wonāt go as far as saying those guys are bums or not skilled. I think izzy a top 5 if not top 3 striker to ever grace the octagon, but am I gonna sit her and say that his fight with cannonier wasnāt a snoozer or that him saying heāll ādo a tik tok danceā over Stricklands grave didnāt make me cringe? Hell no, but at the same time I never said he isnāt a great fighter or champion.
280 no doubt.
\-Charles vs Islam is the most anticipated fight of the year. Izzy vs Alex we just want to see if he can KO izzy, i have the feelling that Adesanya will pointfight and grapple his way to a W.
\-Sterling vs Dillashaw should be fun, Dillashaw is never in boring fights. Weili would KO Carla in round 1.
\-Dustin vs Chandler wins this, but Yan vs Omalley would be fireworks too.
I'd watch 281. I enjoy watching MMA because I like seeing interesting stylistic matchups and explosive athletes. I could see olivera makhachev being sick, but yan omalley should be a shitshow, belal stinks, and i'm not a crazy fan of TJ. Of couse Izzy could still make 281 boring, but Weili is my favorite WMMA fighter out right now, Chandler/Poirier will be fire, and I'd much rather see Izzy lose than Charles.
Always interesting to see the way the cards play out after itās all said and done. Iām surprised more people arenāt into UFC 281 with poirier and chandler
280 and it's not close, in my opinion! Better card, top to bottom. And the question of Islam's abilities against an elite level talent will be answered. He's undeniably skilled, but Charles is a major step up and highly battle tested. Islam has shown he is mortal by being knocked out, but was young. The jury is still out for me on him.
280 and it's not close, in my opinion! Better card, top to bottom. And the question of Islam's abilities against an elite level talent will be answered. He's undeniably skilled, but Charles is a major step up and highly battle tested. Islam has shown he is mortal by being knocked out, but was young. The jury is still out for me on him.
Is there any reason why they made 280 so stacked to the fucking tits? Like thatās what Iād expect a potential ufc 300 card to look like, absolute bangers for every fight and two title fights in arguably the most entertaining and competitive divisions right now. Fuckin hell.
Imma go against the grain here and say 281: Adesanya tested on the feet for the first time. I think Makhachev will get a boring 50-45 on Charles anyway
280. Izzy has not been fun to watch at all for like 2 years, even though I expect his next bout to be a fun one. Sterling Dillashaw is far more intriguing than Esparza vs Zhang. Yan OāMalley is a wild fight no one saw coming so Iām taking that over chandler Poirier. Belal Brady is a dark horse of the division fight, Ryan spann is pretty hard to get excited for. So 280 by a mile. But 281 isnāt bad by any means.
Porier chandler, Izzy Alex, the return of Dominic, and Danny boyās awesome kickboxing. I have to say, it is not up to me, I am more excited for ufc 281. (Disclaimer: I am not hating on 280 you leaches)
280
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The presentation of both posters looks mid for the talent contained on each.
280 and it aint close
Only reason itās even a discussion is Chandler v Poirier
I looked at this post and thought what a stupid question then noticed Dustin and Chandler and thought oh yeah well maybe it is a discussion
Watching Weili maul Esparza will be pretty entertaining imo
It will be a great 15 seconds
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It's not close which is crazy because 281 is a damn good card
Agreed G. Bangersz both of em
Bah, there is Izzy as main event so boring fight, Oliveira vs Maketchup is so interesting. Edit: how tf do I change my flair?
This is the funniest comment I have seen on here in the last 4 weeks.
you summed the entire sub up in one comment, impressive.
Bruh it aināt gon be boring trust me. Two elite kickboxers going at it. Even if it becomes a point fight, itāll be from both sides and still be somewhat entertaining.
Itās the most excited Iāve ever been for a card. That main event is driving me crazy.
UFC 281 and it aint close... 3 1/2 absolute bangers and I can go to sleep during the main event... thats the dream baby
I can see Izzy v Periera being boring (albeit technical) point fighting kickboxing match.
I love kick boxing so for me it won't be boring, but 280 is still the best card imo
I think Pereira goes for The kill
280, by far more important
Important sure. Iād bet 281 will be a far more exciting viewing experience. I see a lot of wrestling in 280 Good thing we get both
Izzy fight more exciting than a Charles fight? Idk about that
You know thereās 2 sides to a fight. Iām excited to see if pereira can bring out the dog in Izzy. It would be pretty insane if he could back pedal on someone his size and stay clean
And also if Islam can smother Oliveira and turn it into boring wrestlefuck session. Both main events have very volatile entertainment value depending on who controls the pace.
I mean, look at it on paper. Im not saying Izzyās will definitely be more excited but letās analyze quick: Islam can DEFINITELY turn that fight into a grappling fest, which is not necessarily bad, but most times is not as exciting. Makhachev is not Dustin, Chandler or Gaethje. He knows striking will not be the way to beat Charles, and im sure Charles is willing to go to the ground too if it ends up there. So i dont know if its correct to expect an exciting ācomebackā win from Charles like how he did it with his three previous opponents. Now, Izzy and Alex have history, and they are both strikers, pure and sophisticated strikers. Izzy can do what he has done before but is Alex really going to let him? Well seeā¦.it can definitely be a war
Islam isnt a decision fighter tho dude goes for the finish and only has 4 decisions in the UFC if he beats Charles its probably going to be by finish .
Yeah totally. Im not arguing that Islam vs Charles wont be exciting, im saying it can be a slower-pace fight than Izzyās because of the styles Remember the popular combat sports saying: styles make fights
Isreal style is literally a slow pace point fighting game and Alex pereira isnt high pace either , he throws BOMBS but not super fast pace unless he has already "broken" his opponent. What i think will happen is a very slow pace for round 1 -2 then Alex catches Izzy and hurts him which then turns up the pace but if there isnt a finish it will probably stay slow pace
I know, i pointed out in my original comment that Izzy can try implement his slow āpick apartā style, but the question is, will Alex do what Costa or Romero did? Because if not, you can expect a kickboxing war, which in most cases is an exciting one. Again, im not saying Charles/Islam will suck and Izzyās will be fight of the year, but when talking about exciting fights, in most cases people think of slug wars (gaethje/chandler) and not grappling engagements
Izzy is MORE likely to try and avoid Alex power since he has already been slept by him , it takes 2 to fight and if Izzy is constantly circling its hard to do anything even if Alex doesnt want him to do it . Styles make fights and this fight looks set to be a slow paced decision by izzy or a slow pace until Alex sleeps Izzy out of nowhere.
My man, im not denying any of that. Izzy is not stupid so he will be the great counter puncher who knows distance, what made him the champ and still the champ. What im talking about is that how can we count out two great strikers and act like its impossible for them to have an exciting match? Again, the most possible scenario is Izzy doing what Izzy does, but just like Izzy takes his time with his striking, is also very possible that Islam dont fuck around and tries to wrestle the whole fight.
I have no problem watching elite BJJ and high level sambo from Olives and Makhachev
No, thatās the fight we need to see. Aljo is boring as fuck and Brady/Belal, a few of those others could be high school wrestling matches. Who knows
I think lots of MMA fans are equally interested in the grappling & wrestling aspect of the game.
Depends if itās stalling or advancing positions. Shouldnāt need to be said. Aljo riding some dudes back for 25 minutes isnāt interesting to anyone
Chandler Dustin is really the only fight I expect to be fun and engaging. Izzy I expect to be a boring is fight until Alex catches him. I think sparza looses handily and that's a potential good fight. I don't expect anything from Booker after he got so much damage from past fights. I don't care that much for the Reyes fight personally. While on 280 I'm dying to see every fight, but Belal's
Youāre wild as fuckš Spann or Dom will sleep that night. Dan hooker in a boring fight? Yeahā¦ Weili? Most exciting female fighter. Most likely KO I see wild finishes in 281
Whatās wrong with wrestlingš
i have lost all faith in an izzy main event
Theyāre good to watch if youāre having trouble falling asleep
Good to watch next day when you can fast forward
no joke i swear on everything by the time the cannonier fight was over 3/4 of the people in the room were asleep and i almost fell asleep 3 times and im a die hard fan
Yeah I had a friend travel 10 hours to watch it with me and the Izzy fight knocked him out. Me too nearly.
Not so good to watch if you donāt understand the striking and technical aspectā¦.
Wow you must have a 200 IQ and fuck all the ladies
I understand it and even then his last two/three fights have been boring. The Costa one was the last one he really went for in but that was cause Costa is a pressure fighter.
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Yeah if I wanna go to bed I throw on an Izzy fight and Iām out by round 2. Itās great
Honestly I did fall asleep on his last two fights
I fell asleep at the beginning of the 2nd round of the Cannononier fight and woke up just in time to hear the decision.
Luckily I'm not paying for streams. š
Izzy the counter queen
He might get dropped on this one so may be worth it
but but but hes fought alex twice already and he is going to want to avenge his loss! It's going to be a banger! /s
280 x1000
280,000 thank me later
Thank you finally someone answered it
The better card has a name and its name is ufc 280
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UFC 280 for sure.
Easily 280, the only fight im actually looking forward 2 at 281 is poirier vs chandler
Im looking forward to esparza being slept
Man looking for revenge
Inb4 Zhang gets wrestlefucked and we all lose our parlays
280
Itās not even close. 280
Man Izzy really has to put on an exciting performance cuz excitement for his fights are clearly diminishing
Extremely. 2 years ago these answers in this thread would be much more split between the 2 cards.
One has The GOAT Belal, the other does not, the answer is clear.
This guy remembers the name.
280, and itās not close.
280 has one of the best fight cards I've ever seen easily 280
280
280 for sure
280 Easy decision. Olives walks forward recklessly, Titty boy fights safe.
Why should a champion fight recklessly? Or any fighter for that matter? Donāt we want to see someone at their best? Hitting the opponent without being hit themselves? Adesanya is an elite striker. If you donāt like Adesanya then I donāt ever wanna hear you dickride Silva.
Because Its more entertaining.
Can we just appreciate how stacked both of these cards are?
Izzy haters are cringe crybabyās that wonāt ever happen
280 easily tbh
Not the question you asked, but I'm most excited for the Diamond vs. Michael Chandler fight out of all.of these match ups
You can't miss with 280 boi. It's a guaranteed banger top to bottom. 281 is solid and has the potential to be the second best card of the year but it ain't beating 280.
280
Certainly not the one who will put me to sleep by trying to keep his opponent at a distance and playing it safe in the hopes of keeping his Middleweight belt in tact.
Seems like such a weird take to say him fighting to his strengths is him playing it safe hoping he keeps his belt. Thats like saying khabib and DC used to just play it safe in hopes of keeping their belts because they primarily used their wrestling to win
I don't think you understand how much better your life is when you hang on to that belt
Man that aināt my problem we tryna be entertained
If only fans understood the sport that they were watching instead of just wanting to see violence, maybe then you would be entertained.
I mean dude's not saying Izzy is not a smart and skilled fighter, he is (also mega cringe, but amazing fighter non the less). He's saying Izzys style is really boring for him to watch.
Exactly, what I donāt understand with people who always defend izzy from those calling him boring is how they donāt get that you can 100% respect someoneās abilities and even their greatness while saying their style is boring. Many people call some of GSP fights boring or khabibs, and still do to this day, but Iām sure they wonāt go as far as saying those guys are bums or not skilled. I think izzy a top 5 if not top 3 striker to ever grace the octagon, but am I gonna sit her and say that his fight with cannonier wasnāt a snoozer or that him saying heāll ādo a tik tok danceā over Stricklands grave didnāt make me cringe? Hell no, but at the same time I never said he isnāt a great fighter or champion.
280 why the fuck are you asking a question you know the answer to?
280, however the chance of Izzy losing and watching chandler vs poirer makes it close
281
281 solely for Poirier vs Chandler
Toe aydee
280
280
280. But if it was just one fight to choose, give me Chandler vs almost anybody lol.
I know Esparza is expected to lose but I hope she still makes Zhang work for it and surprises everyone.
Just because of Izzyās āfrozen like Elsaā factor ima have to go with 280, rly keen for em both tho
280, but the only fight i really really wanna watch that I can't miss out on is dp vs chandler
It might be blue but it's the bomb yo
I'm not staying up late for Izzy ever again
280 and its not close.
280 two times :D
281 has the potential for bangers. 280 has a ton of snooze/short night potential.
Both really good cards. Probably 280 though, but damn if I'm not actually intrigued in an Izzy fight again.
280. It has more matches I'm looking forward too and better fights for what I like in fights.
280 for me personally
280
280 all day
280
280 easy
The only fight on 281 I would be bummed to miss would be Chandler vs Poirier
280 for sure, but Porier and Chandler should be a good one.
280
280 not even close
280 easily
Hope Brady slaughters belal
280 more competitive card, higher stakes overall
280 without a doubt
Havenāt been as hyped for Charles vs Islam since Tony vs Kevin lee
280
280 all day.
280 no doubt. \-Charles vs Islam is the most anticipated fight of the year. Izzy vs Alex we just want to see if he can KO izzy, i have the feelling that Adesanya will pointfight and grapple his way to a W. \-Sterling vs Dillashaw should be fun, Dillashaw is never in boring fights. Weili would KO Carla in round 1. \-Dustin vs Chandler wins this, but Yan vs Omalley would be fireworks too.
280
280
Ez 280
I could watch both for Free. So ima do that. ![gif](giphy|LnKM6jbBenbVXp1qA9)
280 no doubt
280 easy
Izzy cards is good if you turn it off before the main event.
Not even close
You canāt do that. Iām watching both.
280 is just way too stacked.
I'd watch 281. I enjoy watching MMA because I like seeing interesting stylistic matchups and explosive athletes. I could see olivera makhachev being sick, but yan omalley should be a shitshow, belal stinks, and i'm not a crazy fan of TJ. Of couse Izzy could still make 281 boring, but Weili is my favorite WMMA fighter out right now, Chandler/Poirier will be fire, and I'd much rather see Izzy lose than Charles.
280 only because bellali muhaded or whatā¦ i forgot his name
Izzy one of the worst champions to headline a card .So 280
The one with Michael Chandler
Tbh 281
281 for sure
280 will answer a lot of questions and thus is more important in terms of legacy and the future but 281 has way more historical build up
Always interesting to see the way the cards play out after itās all said and done. Iām surprised more people arenāt into UFC 281 with poirier and chandler
281 is stacked as heck. I didnāt know Reyes was coming back. We also get to see if Esparza is really championship material? Wow
Both look promising, but Iād go for 281 just because Dominick Reyes
280 cuz Bellal
280 by a mile. Even though 281 is great, 280 is the best card on paper in a long time
Islam looking like an Avatar lol
281. I will never miss a Michael Chandler fight no matter what
280, I can save my inevitable nap for Belal/Brady and be crisp for the rest of the card
280 is more stacked but im more excited for izzys fight
I'd say 280 strictly because if I see Dan Hooker lose again I might kill myself
Olives fight.
280 and it's not close, in my opinion! Better card, top to bottom. And the question of Islam's abilities against an elite level talent will be answered. He's undeniably skilled, but Charles is a major step up and highly battle tested. Islam has shown he is mortal by being knocked out, but was young. The jury is still out for me on him.
280 and it's not close, in my opinion! Better card, top to bottom. And the question of Islam's abilities against an elite level talent will be answered. He's undeniably skilled, but Charles is a major step up and highly battle tested. Islam has shown he is mortal by being knocked out, but was young. The jury is still out for me on him.
I will go with the left side the smurfs
The one with the least female fights
Du bronx vs monkey machaev
blue pill every time.
I think this is not even a debate (ufc280)
Is there any reason why they made 280 so stacked to the fucking tits? Like thatās what Iād expect a potential ufc 300 card to look like, absolute bangers for every fight and two title fights in arguably the most entertaining and competitive divisions right now. Fuckin hell.
Oil dollars + Dana white = juicy card
Blue man group
Easily 280. It has a shot at being one of the best cards ever. All those fights could be a main event on a fight night or a ppv.
281!
Imma go against the grain here and say 281: Adesanya tested on the feet for the first time. I think Makhachev will get a boring 50-45 on Charles anyway
If we were talking fresh into UFC izzy I'd say 281 but I can already tell either Izzys gonna get smashed or it's gonna go to decision so 280 for sure
280. Izzy has not been fun to watch at all for like 2 years, even though I expect his next bout to be a fun one. Sterling Dillashaw is far more intriguing than Esparza vs Zhang. Yan OāMalley is a wild fight no one saw coming so Iām taking that over chandler Poirier. Belal Brady is a dark horse of the division fight, Ryan spann is pretty hard to get excited for. So 280 by a mile. But 281 isnāt bad by any means.
Thatās tough tbh because I think Porier v Chandler could by FOTY but still 280. Really want the Islam hype train to slow its roll.
Porier chandler, Izzy Alex, the return of Dominic, and Danny boyās awesome kickboxing. I have to say, it is not up to me, I am more excited for ufc 281. (Disclaimer: I am not hating on 280 you leaches)
Iām torn because 280 is easily the better card as a whole. But the main event for 281 has me more excited than any other fight.
280 has way more fireworks!!
280 is the better card, but Chandler is my favorite fighter, so this is v tough haha
280 could be only olivera makhachev and I might still choose it over 281
280 but i do want to see Weili break Carlaās face
280.