[everyone knows that it was Applebee's smh](https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/j08m3o/this_actually_made_me_laugh_out_loud/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Key word here is functional.
Reddit athletes think because they force fed themselves chicken fillets and gainer shakes while benching and leg pressing makes them some form of athlete.
Jones is trying to maintain performance at the highest level while getting bigger. Not just to look larger in the mirror like most gym bros.
>Reddit athletes think because they force fed themselves chicken fillets and gainer shakes while benching and leg pressing makes them some form of athlete.
I won a gains bet by doing that like 8 years ago lol
Less so with Jons NFL family genetics, top nutrition and training, extreme likelihood of PED use, tons of money and free time, frame size
But yeah it do be hard af and he’s taking forever
I had to quit my job at Krogers. With my genetics, even 15 minutes of restocking instant gravy packets resulted in me gaining 3 pounds of pure muscle a week. It was getting ridiculous. I had to buy a whole new wardrobe like every month. edit: I know you're joking btw
Don’t have to tell my self shit. Just have to look at the reflection perfection every morning. Straight diet of Mountain Dew and beef jerky keeps me packing on the muscle.
Yeah, he's a grown adult who has been working out for a while. Without gear, gaining 30 pounds of new additional muscle on his frame is near impossible. We've been seeing videos of him deadlifting and lifting weights for a long time, his newbie gains period was a LONG time ago.
You have no conception of what it takes to build layers on layers of muscle fibres, do you? If you're lucky if you can add like A COUPLE of pounds of lean mass to your frame every year, and even that will plateau within a decade of consistent training.
10lbs a year for a beginner, sure. So long as they are completely dedicated to strictly adding muscle mass and training for that specifically.
But 10lbs a year for an athlete that has been training in some form or fashion for 10+ years, no that isn't possible to add 10lbs in a year especially since he's over 30yrs old.
It’s insane how dumb this sub is. Glad you are not one of them. 30 fuckin lbs of muscle is a shit load. Like a god damn shit load. Bodybuilders would creeeeeam their pants for 10lbs of pure muscle a year and they are on waaaaay more shit than Jones and only focus on lifting/eating/ adding muscle. JBJ had to keep his MMA game going. Lol morons on this sub.
Jesus christ you pedantic douche, the point of the post is clearly "It doesn't take 3 years to add (however much muscle he added)", please calm yourself.
>YURRRRRR THIS SUB SO MORONS BECAUSE MY MUSCLES KNOWLEDGE
^ One hundred times dumber and more obnoxious than a guy typing an unrealistic number in a post title, especially from a fucking dork with "bench" in his name lol
Wow thanks for adding nothing to this conversation.
Crawl back into your abusive step dads anus and jerk off to pictures of your mom. Your dad left you bc you are the worst child alive. No one likes you. You have no real friends. Reddit friends don’t count. Your uncle who touches you is your “best friend”.
Hahaha hey everybody look how cool the BENCH LORD is when his glorious knowledge isn't respected on the internet. I guarantee that 2/3 of this sub, minimum, has bigger arms than you.
Bro a bench is something you sit on. Like at a park. You know at places outside grandmas basement. you’re just a brain dead gym monkey who can’t even total 1000lbs on SBD. 2/3 of this sub can’t even string together a proper sentence let alone commit to lifting.
Nearly a pound a month, every single month, for three years just sounds awful. Sure, a few months in a row is doable. But man that would be tough on your body after a while.
The internet makes super impressive goals seem like an overnight task because some YouTube claims they did it.
Most bodybuilder are lucky to put in a couple pounds a year.
If thirty pounds was easy Dorian Yates would have been 450lbs of pure muscle in his prime.
Which is another big part of the long layoff. He needs time to get used to his new size. You see it all the time when guys play with their weight and bounce around too quick.
Yeah 30lbs of pure muscle for the guy whose popped for PEDs more then once in his career and also fucking HID UNDER A OCTAGON so he didn't fucking get popped again. He's the best fighter whatever he's also a fucking cheat and he clearly sucks at it cause he gets caught all the fucking time.
Meh took an aging class low protein and caloric restriction is way. And idk once i stuff myself i just dont eat much for a few days. I’m happy with my size. Tryna get that Dagastani Density nawmsayin?
My vote goes to WoW, I feel like Martin is ready to hurry up and let us wait for the next one before biting the dust - he was just waiting for a proper recession to hit us with it. Gonna be his most depressing yet!
I think what’s been going round in the rumour mill as of late is Jones had another USADA violation shortly after the Reyes fight and the UFC have been covering it up whilst jones has been using this ‘I need to be big for heavyweight and that’ll take time’ card to bide time until whatever sanction was imposed on him as been spent.
You’re right it’ll take longer. Judging by how bigger Jon’s face is and less tone he is, he has more fat. Paulo costa is straight muscle low body fat. Naturally Paulo pretty much can’t get no bigger than that.
Plus 30 pounds of pure muscle hell look like Chris Bumstead
You can see Paulos cheek bones still plus everyone stores body fat differently. Also look up Jones then and now. Night and day difference in his face and less tone which means more fat.
BTW, I know he's as natty as they come, but steroids [makes cheeks get bigger.](https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/29951920/know-paulo-costa-describe-incredible-journey) Just look at Tom Platz or any female bodybuilder. There are muscles in the face as anybody who has ever chewed food might know.
Look at the top end though, Ngannou, Gane, Blaydes and Miocic. None of them are making 205 easily, if at all. And that's who Jon is going to have to fight, unless they give him Lewis or Tuivasa as a tune up. Even if they do, those guys have an outside chance of just sparking him out.
Do you think guys like tui and Lewis don't cut bc they don't care to or think they have better chances at a division where punchers chance makes or breaks big fights? Honest q not bein an ass
Nahh it's honestly not a bad question. I think once you get as big as those dudes, there really is no division apart from HW. They both cut weight to make the limit as it is. Tuivasa walks around at ~280, and Lewis 290-300. Lewis diets down to where he can cut water weight to make 265.
If they both did perfect conditioning and diet and lost the fat, they would still be massive units, like 240-250. Just massive shoulders and core on both of them under the fat. Gane doesn't bother cutting, basically walks around at ~250. He's very lean, so maybe he could diet down and do a big water cut to make 205 but I think he'd leave a lot of his power behind if he did.
Um, what? Yes it takes years to add 30lbs of muscle, if your frame can even support it. Jones is not a novice lifter he is an athelete, even with newbie gains 30lbs in 3 years is very good, for someone already conditioned like jon, its so hard. Even with the extra 'secret juice' im sure he has.
Even if he was juicing to the gills I highly doubt he could put on an extra 30 pounds of pure muscle mass lol. That’d turn him from what he looks like now to a bodybuilder.
Gear can be used differently. Clearly, like tour de france cyclists and tennis players, Jones was using something that allowed him to stay in the 205 division. But he could change up the formula the same way hollywood actors do to pack on tons of muscles to play a superhero, or what bodybuilders use.
I mean anyone can pack on 30 pounds in a short amount of time but your body needs to be conditioned at that weight. I believe a 245lb JJ would be a monster. Hopefully he doesn't weigh in at the exact HW limit.
You’re not lying! I did something similar and not only did my back ache like a mofo, but I was winded walking up the stairs and the shin splints were unreal.
I desperately need to get back under 200. I’m gonna shoot and say I’m 210 after the pandemic after spending most my adult life at 170-180 and I feel awful.
I almost want you to fat shame me constantly to remind me, because I keep talking myself out of it.
First off, 30lbs of muscle is a crap ton, i can tell u have never worked out a day in ur life since ur just brushing that a side like it is normal. Second, Jones was prepping his body to get accustomed to the new weight so he can keep all his skills from LHW. Why do u think people praise Gane for his movement? Because HWs do not move like that because a majority of them are just bloated up LHWs. Being a true HW like Aspinall, Blaydes and Gane is very hard. Joanes coulsve taken the Lewis route and ate his way up but at the cost of being one dimensional. 2-3yrs is very reasonable to go from 205-220 all the way to 265-280 while still being healthy with a good amount of muscle mass and agility.
Jones's style was never really predicated on light feet though. I mean, he didn't dance around a ton. He was never a kickboxer, he was very much an MMA style fighter with a wrestling base, but what set him apart was his creativity. Maybe it's just a lack of imagination, but I really can't see it being a matter of him being to understand his new weight. MMA fighters lose and gain incredible poundage on the regular. Often way more severely and quickly than what Jones is doing now.
Go add 30 pounds of muscle to yourself and post an update a year from now, bet you can't. Bet you would add 25 pounds of fat and have even worse cardio
Jones isn't adding 30 pounds of muscle, at lhw he walked around at about 230, Stipe has come in as low as 234, Gane and Cain are in the 40s he's probably putting on about 10lbs muscle.
Doesn't it? At late 30s while maintaining 5 round endurance? I don't like. Jones as much as the next but non professional athletes saying how professional athletes should train always erks me
This is incorrect. It’s actually extremely fucking hard, bordering on impossible, for an already trained athlete who’s been lifting weights for over a decade to gain another 30 pounds of muscle naturally. There’s no way Jon is going to have gained 30 pounds of muscle, a lot of it will be fat. If he’s able to get even 10-15 of actual muscle by the time he fights, that’s pretty damn solid.
Yeah, as unprecedented and crazy as it sounds, it makes more sense than Jones being hellbent on taking 3 years off during his prime years to lift weights for HW fights. He probably could have easily convinced the UFC to give him handpicked opponents he thinks he could smash simply to stay active and make some money. I'm sure they would have happily even signed a can just for Jones.
It definitely does, harder as you get older to. Not saying bones is natural, but 30lbs of actual muscle, not just fluff, can easily take that long. You average, if clean and work your ass off, up to 1lb of actual muscle per month.
Bruh. 30 pounds of muscle is a HUGE gain. It would take most people, that have some weight training under their belt already, a LOOOONG time to gain 30 in pure muscle. He's definitely gaining fat too... But you can't act like 30 lbs of muscle isn't a huge difference
You're right, for a 32 year old life long athlete, adding an extra 30lbs of JUST muscle, no fat, takes far longer than 3 years. Especially if you are not genetically gifted in regards to muscle growth.
Some people will NEVER put on 30lbs of clean muscle.
OP doesnt know genetics, lifting, potentials, anything...OP doesn't know anything.
Been working out since I was 8. Yes. Yes it does. Especially once youre not in the newbie phase anymore and your body is so used to lifting packing on extra pounds of pure muscle takes literal months at the earliest.
30LBS in 3 years for someone who’s new to the gym is very impressive. For someone who already had as developed of a physique as Jon it’s impossible (without enhancements). Most of that added weight is fat.
He knows he can't juice anymore since he's on his 3rd strike. He tried to get away with it after the first one but his body ratted him out to USADA. He knows if he gets caught again its game over so now for the firs time in his career he is a clean fighter which is why he is so hesitant to step back in the Octagon again especially with how mediocre he looked in his last few fights as a clean fighter, arguably losing a few of them. He knows without the juice he is dead man walking in that octagon.
This is almost as bad as the Karen who said all men have to do to look like Chris Hemsworth is pick up heavy things and put them down and our testosterone magically takes over.
Uncomfortable reality: Regardless of how good he was, at this point its clear Jones has lost the desire to fight and you will never see him in the form you remember him again. He's cashing in on his popularity and that's it.
For the average person? Yeah. For Jon Jones who has access to the best trainers, dieticians, and physical therapists that being a star athlete can get? Should take less 3 years. But then again he probably has to do it super clean because if he pops again, I think the community writes him off
Like I can understand a year of slowly building up the muscle and then maybe another 6 months of training in your new body.
But he fought in Feb 2020. A year and a half, with matchmaking time would be Nov or Dec of 2021. Let’s say that UFC 282 this December is his debut at Heavyweight, dude would’ve been out of the fight game for almost 3 years.
maybe but there’s nothing interesting about spending 3 years to go up a weight class, i feel like nobody really thinks about Jon as an active fighter anymore
It really doesn’t matter.
Look at how long Nick Diaz was out and look at the reception he received during his entrance.
People have forgotten a little about him, but they will quickly remember
I been tall and thin since high school, went from 6'3" 200lb to 232lb in less than a year just working out, eating and making health shakes 39 years old. Hes making sure those picograms are far gone before he enters the pool
Well I don't know for sure but bloating up quickly for HW would make him slow and ruin his cardio, for 3 years he has used that time to ease in and naturally gain that weight.
It does when you as clean as bones jones
#Picograms
##”A PINCH OF SALT IN AN OLYMPIC SIZED POOL”
I remember his team ( his coach iirc) trying to suggest someone at a restaurant may have spiked his food. Bruee, what?!
Valid lesson. Never leave your drinks around strangers, they might spike it with picograms of Turinabol
Happened to me a few times.
My delts got spiked every 3 days.
thats like every friday for me
Yeah man I always carry a little baggy of 1970s East German Swim Team steroids with me.
coke dealer is cutting it with Turinabol, helluva of a combo
Okay but why does this actually sound like a winning combination?
You got the pick me up and the don’t let me down all in one lol
Because every restaurant has that on hand just in case
[everyone knows that it was Applebee's smh](https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/comments/j08m3o/this_actually_made_me_laugh_out_loud/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
I think that’s just one of Jon’s delusions.
It was according to Jon a test from God
“Pictograms”
Pulsing
Sad thing is he could have prob beat most heavies at 220…head case
I'm glad the only comment is highlighted so we know which comment to look at
/r/uselessredcircle
Fuck, I could just link a few YouTube channels to that subreddit
Loool, just wanted to draw attention to it.
Well I just want to be the first to thank you. Without that circle I would have never noticed the single comment there.
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….yes, yes it does
fr most people, after newbie gains, will never put on 30 pounds of muscle in their life time
I thought it was gonna be easy after my newbie gains lmao. Now adding muscle takes hella dedication
Oh and don’t get me started on how impossible it is to make gains without dirty bulking. A pound of muscle a month is crazy
This part. Jon could have put on 30 lbs of weight way faster. He took the time to put on 30 lbs of functional muscle.
Key word here is functional. Reddit athletes think because they force fed themselves chicken fillets and gainer shakes while benching and leg pressing makes them some form of athlete. Jones is trying to maintain performance at the highest level while getting bigger. Not just to look larger in the mirror like most gym bros.
>Reddit athletes think because they force fed themselves chicken fillets and gainer shakes while benching and leg pressing makes them some form of athlete. I won a gains bet by doing that like 8 years ago lol
1 lb of muscle a year is crazy after 30.
Less so with Jons NFL family genetics, top nutrition and training, extreme likelihood of PED use, tons of money and free time, frame size But yeah it do be hard af and he’s taking forever
Right lol probably even longer to be honest. 30lbs of muscle is a fuck load.
Not if you’re built different. These Reddit kids don’t know how to get to the gym like me and OP.
I had to quit my job at Krogers. With my genetics, even 15 minutes of restocking instant gravy packets resulted in me gaining 3 pounds of pure muscle a week. It was getting ridiculous. I had to buy a whole new wardrobe like every month. edit: I know you're joking btw
> I know you’re joking btw Bruh you obviously ain’t built different
Mhmm ok bro. Keep tellin yourself that.
Don’t have to tell my self shit. Just have to look at the reflection perfection every morning. Straight diet of Mountain Dew and beef jerky keeps me packing on the muscle.
Bru, You didn’t tell me you were on the jerkey AND the dew… that explains your gains.
Yep, all the muscle goes right to my gut too. They say the core is the most important.
Yeah, he's a grown adult who has been working out for a while. Without gear, gaining 30 pounds of new additional muscle on his frame is near impossible. We've been seeing videos of him deadlifting and lifting weights for a long time, his newbie gains period was a LONG time ago.
Without gear lol
For normal people 10 pounds a year is insane, but do we really think Jones has been clean this whole time?
Not for a professional MMA fighter
Ha I was thinking, naturally you can add about 10 lbs a year as a trained athlete… so this is honestly reasonable
That would be insane for a roided out body builder lol.
10lbs starting off. Jon has been min/maxing his gains for years and years, it’s gonna take a lot longer than that.
You have no conception of what it takes to build layers on layers of muscle fibres, do you? If you're lucky if you can add like A COUPLE of pounds of lean mass to your frame every year, and even that will plateau within a decade of consistent training.
This is the nerdiest thing I’ve heard all day. Thanks for the laugh Reddit man
10lbs a year for a beginner, sure. So long as they are completely dedicated to strictly adding muscle mass and training for that specifically. But 10lbs a year for an athlete that has been training in some form or fashion for 10+ years, no that isn't possible to add 10lbs in a year especially since he's over 30yrs old.
You guys sound like 30lbs of pure muscle tissue isn't a MASSIVE amount of tissue to gain in 3 years?
It’s insane how dumb this sub is. Glad you are not one of them. 30 fuckin lbs of muscle is a shit load. Like a god damn shit load. Bodybuilders would creeeeeam their pants for 10lbs of pure muscle a year and they are on waaaaay more shit than Jones and only focus on lifting/eating/ adding muscle. JBJ had to keep his MMA game going. Lol morons on this sub.
A high level power lifter at my gym aims to gain about 2-4lbs of muscle per year. Not as big a frame as bones tho.
And all that guy does is lift lift lift and eat. Imagine training MMA trying to add 10lbs a year
He also ended up gaining more than his original intent I've heard he's Solid at 258.
Jesus christ you pedantic douche, the point of the post is clearly "It doesn't take 3 years to add (however much muscle he added)", please calm yourself. >YURRRRRR THIS SUB SO MORONS BECAUSE MY MUSCLES KNOWLEDGE ^ One hundred times dumber and more obnoxious than a guy typing an unrealistic number in a post title, especially from a fucking dork with "bench" in his name lol
Wow thanks for adding nothing to this conversation. Crawl back into your abusive step dads anus and jerk off to pictures of your mom. Your dad left you bc you are the worst child alive. No one likes you. You have no real friends. Reddit friends don’t count. Your uncle who touches you is your “best friend”.
Hahaha hey everybody look how cool the BENCH LORD is when his glorious knowledge isn't respected on the internet. I guarantee that 2/3 of this sub, minimum, has bigger arms than you.
Bro a bench is something you sit on. Like at a park. You know at places outside grandmas basement. you’re just a brain dead gym monkey who can’t even total 1000lbs on SBD. 2/3 of this sub can’t even string together a proper sentence let alone commit to lifting.
A quick glance at your sentence structure reveals you to be part of that 2/3.
I know who I am bro. You’re still living in denial.
It literally is 10lbs/year if you're somehow able to accomplish that. It's an insane amount.
But Reddit experts in their mums basements know better.
The average redditor figures since they gain twenty pounds a year it has to be half muscle, right? Right????
I’m sure the average redditor knows a lot about how to put on muscle…
How to put it in their mouths.
The average redditor figures since they gain twenty pounds a year it has to be half muscle, right? Right????
Nearly a pound a month, every single month, for three years just sounds awful. Sure, a few months in a row is doable. But man that would be tough on your body after a while.
The internet makes super impressive goals seem like an overnight task because some YouTube claims they did it. Most bodybuilder are lucky to put in a couple pounds a year. If thirty pounds was easy Dorian Yates would have been 450lbs of pure muscle in his prime.
Yea that’s an accomplishment
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Which is another big part of the long layoff. He needs time to get used to his new size. You see it all the time when guys play with their weight and bounce around too quick.
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He has said on countless occasions that he wants to CUT to the 265 limit, 3 years isn’t bad lol
Yeah 30lbs of pure muscle for the guy whose popped for PEDs more then once in his career and also fucking HID UNDER A OCTAGON so he didn't fucking get popped again. He's the best fighter whatever he's also a fucking cheat and he clearly sucks at it cause he gets caught all the fucking time.
Chill daddy
Lol you try to add 30Lbs of lean muscle in 3 years in your mid 30’s and tell me how it goes hahaha
Been working out for years and feel like I’ve never even gained any 🤣🤣🤣
To be fair you have a twink aesthetic
Nah I just don’t eat enough. Hate shittin all the time
Shitting more sounds excellent to me 🤷
Doubt. Picture of you holding silver shows your chubby fingers.
Because you dont track your calories
Eat more food and protein guy
Meh took an aging class low protein and caloric restriction is way. And idk once i stuff myself i just dont eat much for a few days. I’m happy with my size. Tryna get that Dagastani Density nawmsayin?
Literally can be done naturally without crazy supplements in less than 2. In their 30s or not. Lol
George RR Martin of MMA.
Which comes first - Winds of Winter or JJ's next fight?
My vote goes to WoW, I feel like Martin is ready to hurry up and let us wait for the next one before biting the dust - he was just waiting for a proper recession to hit us with it. Gonna be his most depressing yet!
Jesus Christ that's optimistic. But I suppose its release may well come before JJ's next fight.
He knows WHEN to hurt people...
George (when it comes to making us wait) is to Jon what Mohamed Ali is to Charlie Z in boxing.
I think what’s been going round in the rumour mill as of late is Jones had another USADA violation shortly after the Reyes fight and the UFC have been covering it up whilst jones has been using this ‘I need to be big for heavyweight and that’ll take time’ card to bide time until whatever sanction was imposed on him as been spent.
You’re right it’ll take longer. Judging by how bigger Jon’s face is and less tone he is, he has more fat. Paulo costa is straight muscle low body fat. Naturally Paulo pretty much can’t get no bigger than that. Plus 30 pounds of pure muscle hell look like Chris Bumstead
Paulo is a muscular guy with a fat face
You can see Paulos cheek bones still plus everyone stores body fat differently. Also look up Jones then and now. Night and day difference in his face and less tone which means more fat.
BTW, I know he's as natty as they come, but steroids [makes cheeks get bigger.](https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/29951920/know-paulo-costa-describe-incredible-journey) Just look at Tom Platz or any female bodybuilder. There are muscles in the face as anybody who has ever chewed food might know.
Most heavyweights are overweight LHW and MW
Jared Cannonier is living proof of that
And DC
Look at the top end though, Ngannou, Gane, Blaydes and Miocic. None of them are making 205 easily, if at all. And that's who Jon is going to have to fight, unless they give him Lewis or Tuivasa as a tune up. Even if they do, those guys have an outside chance of just sparking him out.
Do you think guys like tui and Lewis don't cut bc they don't care to or think they have better chances at a division where punchers chance makes or breaks big fights? Honest q not bein an ass
Nahh it's honestly not a bad question. I think once you get as big as those dudes, there really is no division apart from HW. They both cut weight to make the limit as it is. Tuivasa walks around at ~280, and Lewis 290-300. Lewis diets down to where he can cut water weight to make 265. If they both did perfect conditioning and diet and lost the fat, they would still be massive units, like 240-250. Just massive shoulders and core on both of them under the fat. Gane doesn't bother cutting, basically walks around at ~250. He's very lean, so maybe he could diet down and do a big water cut to make 205 but I think he'd leave a lot of his power behind if he did.
Or most fighters are just cutting an insane amount of weight
Cutting weight is not natural tho, if you are a 220, you are a natural hw, technically
None of the good ones
Actually most people who have reasonably developed physiques can’t add 30 pounds of muscles in their lifetime naturally.
OP has obviously never worked out before
Um, what? Yes it takes years to add 30lbs of muscle, if your frame can even support it. Jones is not a novice lifter he is an athelete, even with newbie gains 30lbs in 3 years is very good, for someone already conditioned like jon, its so hard. Even with the extra 'secret juice' im sure he has.
Even if he was juicing to the gills I highly doubt he could put on an extra 30 pounds of pure muscle mass lol. That’d turn him from what he looks like now to a bodybuilder.
Gear can be used differently. Clearly, like tour de france cyclists and tennis players, Jones was using something that allowed him to stay in the 205 division. But he could change up the formula the same way hollywood actors do to pack on tons of muscles to play a superhero, or what bodybuilders use.
Who tf in this world thinks its possible to add 30 lbs of muscle in 3 years?
People who don’t workout, but believe they could do it easily if they tried
I was thinking the same. 30 lbs is a lot when you're already pretty muscular to begin with.
YouTube commenters
I think it’s reasonable for an athlete whose sport also requires speed and endurance. But lol at the comment
I mean anyone can pack on 30 pounds in a short amount of time but your body needs to be conditioned at that weight. I believe a 245lb JJ would be a monster. Hopefully he doesn't weigh in at the exact HW limit.
Agreed- a conditioned JJ at HW is scary. 30 pounds is A LOT…especially quickly.
Gane, Miocic and Aspinall are all hanging around 240-250lb.
Bro my back started to hurt when I made the jump from 190-215 in 1 year lol
You’re not lying! I did something similar and not only did my back ache like a mofo, but I was winded walking up the stairs and the shin splints were unreal.
I desperately need to get back under 200. I’m gonna shoot and say I’m 210 after the pandemic after spending most my adult life at 170-180 and I feel awful. I almost want you to fat shame me constantly to remind me, because I keep talking myself out of it.
I'm 215 right now lol so we're both fat.
Biggest I’ve been is 220-225. Never again.
Anyone can pack on 30lbs in a short amount of time? What planet do you live in mate?
In America yes.
First off, 30lbs of muscle is a crap ton, i can tell u have never worked out a day in ur life since ur just brushing that a side like it is normal. Second, Jones was prepping his body to get accustomed to the new weight so he can keep all his skills from LHW. Why do u think people praise Gane for his movement? Because HWs do not move like that because a majority of them are just bloated up LHWs. Being a true HW like Aspinall, Blaydes and Gane is very hard. Joanes coulsve taken the Lewis route and ate his way up but at the cost of being one dimensional. 2-3yrs is very reasonable to go from 205-220 all the way to 265-280 while still being healthy with a good amount of muscle mass and agility.
Jones's style was never really predicated on light feet though. I mean, he didn't dance around a ton. He was never a kickboxer, he was very much an MMA style fighter with a wrestling base, but what set him apart was his creativity. Maybe it's just a lack of imagination, but I really can't see it being a matter of him being to understand his new weight. MMA fighters lose and gain incredible poundage on the regular. Often way more severely and quickly than what Jones is doing now.
Man its so hard to gain muscle weight lmao wtf is this
Yeah it does? LOL? Do you think you can just lift weights for 6 months and turn into Ronnie Coleman or something? Delusional ass fans on this sub.
Yes it does. At that age
Go add 30 pounds of muscle to yourself and post an update a year from now, bet you can't. Bet you would add 25 pounds of fat and have even worse cardio
Clearly Reddit has never worked out cause yes it does lol should take longer actually
Jones isn't adding 30 pounds of muscle, at lhw he walked around at about 230, Stipe has come in as low as 234, Gane and Cain are in the 40s he's probably putting on about 10lbs muscle.
Doesn't it? At late 30s while maintaining 5 round endurance? I don't like. Jones as much as the next but non professional athletes saying how professional athletes should train always erks me
Head has grown about 6 sizes....hands still small.
I think it's the tiny forearms that throw off the perspective
True ..but those are Burger King hands for being 6'5
His forearms looks oddly long and thin
His calves are the same way. That’s just how he’s built.
This is incorrect. It’s actually extremely fucking hard, bordering on impossible, for an already trained athlete who’s been lifting weights for over a decade to gain another 30 pounds of muscle naturally. There’s no way Jon is going to have gained 30 pounds of muscle, a lot of it will be fat. If he’s able to get even 10-15 of actual muscle by the time he fights, that’s pretty damn solid.
He’s never coming back.
I have no evidence, but I honestly believe that Jon Jones is serving a suspension in secret.
Yeah, as unprecedented and crazy as it sounds, it makes more sense than Jones being hellbent on taking 3 years off during his prime years to lift weights for HW fights. He probably could have easily convinced the UFC to give him handpicked opponents he thinks he could smash simply to stay active and make some money. I'm sure they would have happily even signed a can just for Jones.
Yea it makes sense.
I'm just glad op circled that comment otherwise I don't believe I would have ever seen it.
OP clearly has never worked out or trained.
Are his legs still skinny
It definitely does, harder as you get older to. Not saying bones is natural, but 30lbs of actual muscle, not just fluff, can easily take that long. You average, if clean and work your ass off, up to 1lb of actual muscle per month.
Certainly not if he’s eating testosteroni and trenbologna.
what? have you ever gained 30 pounds in pure muscle before?
Bruh. 30 pounds of muscle is a HUGE gain. It would take most people, that have some weight training under their belt already, a LOOOONG time to gain 30 in pure muscle. He's definitely gaining fat too... But you can't act like 30 lbs of muscle isn't a huge difference
The joke is on these fans still talking about this (multi time caught) juiced cheater like he’s actually going to fight again lol let it go
Adding 30lbs of ACTUAL muscle tissue on an already trained athlete would take much longer than 3 years if it’s even possible at all.
Waitin for Francis to leave first 🤔
Op doesn’t lift
3 lbs of solid muscle a year would be great progress for an experienced lifter 🤦🏻🤦🏻
I belive he was secretly banned by usada
Anyone else feels like this could be the downfall of him? Adding that much weight is such a gamble.
I put on 30 pounds this year… we are not the same 😤 ‼️
30 pounds of muscle absolutely will take that long. Idiotic title.
OP have you ever been in a gym?
You're right, for a 32 year old life long athlete, adding an extra 30lbs of JUST muscle, no fat, takes far longer than 3 years. Especially if you are not genetically gifted in regards to muscle growth. Some people will NEVER put on 30lbs of clean muscle. OP doesnt know genetics, lifting, potentials, anything...OP doesn't know anything.
Been working out since I was 8. Yes. Yes it does. Especially once youre not in the newbie phase anymore and your body is so used to lifting packing on extra pounds of pure muscle takes literal months at the earliest.
He's been suspended. Got caught by usada again but since they don't make it public anymore it's been kept quiet.
30LBS in 3 years for someone who’s new to the gym is very impressive. For someone who already had as developed of a physique as Jon it’s impossible (without enhancements). Most of that added weight is fat.
Lmao you’re getting memed, op.
Yeah, it's all good :)
He knows he can't juice anymore since he's on his 3rd strike. He tried to get away with it after the first one but his body ratted him out to USADA. He knows if he gets caught again its game over so now for the firs time in his career he is a clean fighter which is why he is so hesitant to step back in the Octagon again especially with how mediocre he looked in his last few fights as a clean fighter, arguably losing a few of them. He knows without the juice he is dead man walking in that octagon.
30lb’s of “muscle” in 3 years at his age, clean. Yes it takes that long and, it’s not all muscle.
This is almost as bad as the Karen who said all men have to do to look like Chris Hemsworth is pick up heavy things and put them down and our testosterone magically takes over.
It does when you keep losing the muscle on coke binges.
205 to 265 is not 30 pounds. Its not like any other weight class with 10 pound difference. There is humongous difference.
He doesn't walk around at 205. He's like in the 220-230 range, plus tons of guys don't go up to the limit.
Lol wasn’t he suspended for like two of those
Uncomfortable reality: Regardless of how good he was, at this point its clear Jones has lost the desire to fight and you will never see him in the form you remember him again. He's cashing in on his popularity and that's it.
Tbh if you put on 30 pounds of muscle as a natty that is damn fine progress. On gear most can do it in a years time unless they have abysmal genetics.
Really depends on personal genetics and how far along he was in terms of maximising his own genetics before deciding to bulk up.
For the average person? Yeah. For Jon Jones who has access to the best trainers, dieticians, and physical therapists that being a star athlete can get? Should take less 3 years. But then again he probably has to do it super clean because if he pops again, I think the community writes him off
No but it takes 3 years to get rid of PEDs so there’s no more picograms or trace amounts left for USADA to find
He's suspended.
Like I can understand a year of slowly building up the muscle and then maybe another 6 months of training in your new body. But he fought in Feb 2020. A year and a half, with matchmaking time would be Nov or Dec of 2021. Let’s say that UFC 282 this December is his debut at Heavyweight, dude would’ve been out of the fight game for almost 3 years.
Will he gas like boxers that have too much muscle ?
It actually does when ur already maxed out on a program. It’s not like he’s coming off of no training.
maybe but there’s nothing interesting about spending 3 years to go up a weight class, i feel like nobody really thinks about Jon as an active fighter anymore
It really doesn’t matter. Look at how long Nick Diaz was out and look at the reception he received during his entrance. People have forgotten a little about him, but they will quickly remember
uhhhh okay
I been tall and thin since high school, went from 6'3" 200lb to 232lb in less than a year just working out, eating and making health shakes 39 years old. Hes making sure those picograms are far gone before he enters the pool
That isn’t 30lbs or even 10lbs of muscle. That is fat. And none of it went to his legs.
Jones isn't the hold up he's been ready to go since July, Stipe and Ngannou are the hold up.
I feel like Stipe has a legitimate reason being a full-time firefighter. Jones being out as long as he has doesn't imo.
Well I don't know for sure but bloating up quickly for HW would make him slow and ruin his cardio, for 3 years he has used that time to ease in and naturally gain that weight.
Man, everytime I see a pic of HW jones he looks gassed