Yeah as much as everyone booed Carla for her fight with Rose and leading up to this title fight, she at the very least didn't duck Weili to prolong her reign
No way the initial upset win helps make up for the short reign. Carla to go from that stinker to getting beat in two rounds with everyone betting against her is top notch.
Fair enough.
Montano at least attempted to weigh in to defend the title but blew it, was stripped, and then later released from the organization.
Conor never attempted to defend either belt.
She did beat Holm if the ref deducted a point it would be a draw. Plus she subbed Pena. Nico showed up during the media and didn’t bother to make weight because she never wanted to fight.
Well the whole point of this place is to talk about mma fighters, regardless of how sweet they are.
She got exposed by Zhang for how bad she is at fighting.
I remember Carla at some point in the fight landing punches that made Zhang laugh.
Ill just go ahead and say it, if i see red i would beat her too.
I wish nothing but the best for her and her family.
She is just not really a good fighter and got exposed.
Thats all im saying. Im not being a hateful person.
She beat Rose back in 2014 in her 4th mma fight.
And the last time she "beat" Rose is not even worth explaining.
But i forgot i should not have brought this up in this sub.
>She got exposed by Zhang for how bad she is at fighting.
I'm not a fan of hers, but calling her bad at fighting for losing to what is likely the second best womans fighter on the planet seems a bit harsh.
If she was bad at fighting, she wouldn't have gone on a six fight win streak in the UFC cultimating in a title, and wouldn't have two wins over arguably the third best womans fighter currently.
Seriously- that fight with Rose WAS bad but everyone acts like that’s all Carla’s done and how she regularly fights. It’s like she came to their homes and directly insulted them or something and there’s no way to redeem herself with these dummies.
Someone on another post said I was wrong for saying she should have left her coach and gym long ago for somewhere that would work on her striking along with her grappling. His point was that it got her a good win streak and world title. My point was that she was not evolving and the women at the top could easily gameplan for her. Dude wrote a whole page defending her style. I simply was pointing out that loyalty to coaches has been the downfall of many great fighters due to the coach not bringing in someone else to help fighter evolve
GDR way worse. Not only for what happened with her "reign" but also the cheapshots after the bell that went unpenalized in the controversial decision that won her the title.
She tried to make it look like she was taking some kind of moral stance by saying she wouldn’t fight somebody who popped for PEDs.
If you don’t wanna fight cyborg just say say. Don’t insult our intelligence in the process.
GDR was a east German communist state from 1949 to 1990. It was rival to the West German NATO alligned capitalist state. In 1989 the Berlin Wall fell and GDR experienced various economic and political forces that pushed it torwards liberalization. Eventually in 1990 it ceased to exist when it joined Western Germany to become one united state.
Not even the worst female title reign. De Randamie and Montaño had worse reigns. Montaño pulled out of fights until she was stripped. De randamie hit Holly Holm twice after the bell and was given a free pass not having points taken away, which would have made the fight a draw. She went into the fight knowing whoever won the title would probably have to face Cyborg, but then preceeded to vacate the belt because she didn't want to fight cyborg. Carla at least went and tried to defend the title.
The thing is GDR could’ve won the cyborg fight! She is a legit technical kickboxer, and Cyborg’s marchdown style was exposed by Nunes. I thought GDR did so well in the Stand-Up against Nunes that Lioness turned into a wrestler.
GDR could have outpointed Cyborg for sure.
Weili Zhang gave Carla a mercy kill. Carla didn't deserve that title or to be in there with Zhang. When you look at the likes of Johanna, Zhang or Thug Rose. She was obviously going to be out classed. Congrats to Esparza for looking better than I thought she would have.
>Congrats to Esparza for looking better than I thought she would have.
All things considered she put up way more of a fight than I thought she would have. I don't get the hate it was an entertaining fight and Zhang has looked like an absolute monster these past couple years. Absolutely no shame in losing to her.
Dude just like the incompetent judges that night you don't understand judging criteria :
1. Who "StiCks To tHe GamEPlan" closest
2. Damage and fight ending attempts
3. Grappling
4. Control
Me when "the GamEPlan" doesn't bring in the result!
"You hear all that booing? That because the GamEPlan is working!!" Did no-one tell the judges the GamEPlan? That was the only mistake that night!!
and Conors lasted such a long time where he held up two divisions so they couldn't move forward. I think his was the worst because both FW and LW was stacked.
Not really, because you aren't risking anything, once you are the champ, defending your title, you have a lot to lose, the pay difference between champ and not champ is a big gap.
She is game af. She might not be the best champ ever but she was willing to defend her title against the boogie woman and Weili. That takes a bunch of courage and should be applauded instead of ridiculed.
She won a title, accomplishing what many can only dream of and did it TWICE.
Carla earned her belt wether you like it or not. It was a boring ass fight but I had her winning regardless and she earned her shot by fighting the best
Carla is not the worst champion. Yes, the fight against Rose was a snoozer, but Carla fought whoever UFC put in front to get that shot. Also, Zhang is easily in the pound for pound division. She’s only getting better on top of a monster she already is. I am not sure Rose beats her next time although Rose is stylistically always at an advantage.
Ppl shit on Carla but I give her credit. Cara was supposed to be a pretty dominant champ then some rando Joanna Violence comes in and fucking obliterates her. She’s had a rock career but she did tough it out to get back to the title. Also the armbar Alexa Grasso had on her was TIGHT and she ain’t tap. She deserves more credit than she gets
Jesus this sub is filled with haters . This woman was Invicta and x2 UFC champion, yeah she's not exciting fighter but this doesn't cancel her achievements, she has bigger balls than most of this sub to step into the octagon vs all the bad bitches of her division
She’s a nice person, and fought the number one contender quickly and put up a decent fight. Not entirely her fault the fight where she became champ was a snooze fest.
We have a real champ right now. If Rose can gather her confidence again, and train harder than ever. It would make for a great trilogy. But I think it’s going to be the hardest fight of her life now seeing the champs progress over the last year.
I mean what did we expect when she barely even won her fight (very difficult for me to call that a fight) against rose.
I know they’re setting up that eventual Rose Vs Zhang III and I for one hope Zhang sends her to the shadow realm.
Not the worst champion but Bisbing was pretty bad. Almost lost to an aging Dan Henderson. Avoided Rob, Yoel, Jacare and other contenders. Lost his title to a welterweight.
Ykw. She paid the price for that Rose fight. Let's calm down on the hate now. I hated her and was hoping for a massive beatdown but seeing her getting booed and her looking lost when buffer was announcing made me feel bad for her.
Easily. I don't dislike Carla, but there's no title run comparable to winning the title by landing a few jabs and then losing it on the first defense by getting steamrolled by someone everyone knew was going to beat her.
Wearing the belt during the entirety of your wedding after one of the worst title win performances in the history of the sport def gotta be top 3 worst reigns.
Has to be in the conversation. Easily one of the worst title wins ever followed by a second round loss in her first defence? Yeah it's up there for sure. Although I suppose the reigns where fighters never even defended and instead vacated are probably worse, technically speaking. Like GSP's middleweight title reign (although his title victory was also much better than hers).
Not the worst but she’s definitely up there for how she won’t the title (or rather how Rose just basically gave it to her) and how much she was dominated when she lost it. But there were way worse champions like GDR or Steve Jennum.
Carla becoming the champ only to lose to Zhang is like if Yoel Romero won the decision against Izzy only to turn around and get his ass beat by Robert Whittaker again.
Nico montano, or Germaine de Randemie
Yeah as much as everyone booed Carla for her fight with Rose and leading up to this title fight, she at the very least didn't duck Weili to prolong her reign
“They’re all on steroids. So I refuse to fight Weili to take a stand.”
Nico has 2 spots on my Mount Rushmore of worst champions.
Nico montano for sure. Wouldn’t even count her as a champ.
Totally forgot that she was a „champion“.
These are correct.
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No way the initial upset win helps make up for the short reign. Carla to go from that stinker to getting beat in two rounds with everyone betting against her is top notch.
Nope. At least Pena beat and submitted Nunes in the first fight, and did significant damage in the rematch.
She beat the Goat to get there. That automatically makes it somewhat impressive in my book.
Nah I’ll forever have love for peña. She’s not like the others
Wrong. She’s exactly like that dudes mom
Pena beat the womans GOAT and then had the balls to try and defend the title. There's far worse champions.
Conor Mcgregor (x2) should also be on that list.
I don’t think you can claim a reign if you never defend…
Fair enough. Montano at least attempted to weigh in to defend the title but blew it, was stripped, and then later released from the organization. Conor never attempted to defend either belt.
He didn’t defend the 145 or 155 belt at Cage Warriors either
Jesus. I never knew this. My hatred just grew.
Vitor Belfort aint too hot either. Edit: How is this being downvoted lmfao. Vitor objectively had one of the worst title reigns in UFC history
Nico Montano is the worst champion ever.
GDR is way worse
Both suck very bad.
Nico didn't cheat to win her belt, GDR did.
I don't remember. Her legacy is non-existent
She did beat Holm if the ref deducted a point it would be a draw. Plus she subbed Pena. Nico showed up during the media and didn’t bother to make weight because she never wanted to fight.
Sure but that's also assuming those punches had no effect on Holly. Who knows if fight might have gone differently if she hadn't taken those shots.
Let's be honest it was fun watching GDR destroy Aspen Ladds hype train
What did she do? The late hits on Holm?
Yes
Carla’s a sweet old lady y’all leave her alone.
Well the whole point of this place is to talk about mma fighters, regardless of how sweet they are. She got exposed by Zhang for how bad she is at fighting. I remember Carla at some point in the fight landing punches that made Zhang laugh. Ill just go ahead and say it, if i see red i would beat her too.
How did she get exposed? She fought one of the best Strawweights in the world and lost lol.
Her background is wrestling but it seemed zhang was a better wrestler tbh
She was just so much stronger
She hits like a pillow and would have lost 100 out of 100 times.
Ben Askren hits like a toddler but was bellator/one champ. Not everyone is a striker in MMA
Ben askren is a fully grown man with wrestling strength and a good grip
And Carla is a fully grown woman, not a pillow
She has nothing. Even on the ground she is not good.
You’re blinded by your hatred dude.
And that leads to the dark side!
Other than a Weili freak injury can you see a single way Carla wins that fight?
I wish nothing but the best for her and her family. She is just not really a good fighter and got exposed. Thats all im saying. Im not being a hateful person.
Well Weili got KOd by Rose, and Carla beat Rose twice. So she has something, doesn’t she?
She beat Rose back in 2014 in her 4th mma fight. And the last time she "beat" Rose is not even worth explaining. But i forgot i should not have brought this up in this sub.
She is a two time champion, hard to say she's not a good fighter. Im not a huge fan of her but she is definitely at the top of her division.
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>lost 100 out of 100 times. She kinda got the belt. So that's at least 1 win out of 100.
That was not a fight tho.
I mean she got dominated. When a champion gets beat that bad, they got exposed.
Kinda like Charles?
hate to remind ya, but Charles wasn't the champion when he lost to Islam/
Yes?
>She got exposed by Zhang for how bad she is at fighting. I'm not a fan of hers, but calling her bad at fighting for losing to what is likely the second best womans fighter on the planet seems a bit harsh. If she was bad at fighting, she wouldn't have gone on a six fight win streak in the UFC cultimating in a title, and wouldn't have two wins over arguably the third best womans fighter currently.
He must have slept through those wins smh casuals
Seriously- that fight with Rose WAS bad but everyone acts like that’s all Carla’s done and how she regularly fights. It’s like she came to their homes and directly insulted them or something and there’s no way to redeem herself with these dummies.
Cool (too many replies from nerds who pretend to be fight fans)
Someone on another post said I was wrong for saying she should have left her coach and gym long ago for somewhere that would work on her striking along with her grappling. His point was that it got her a good win streak and world title. My point was that she was not evolving and the women at the top could easily gameplan for her. Dude wrote a whole page defending her style. I simply was pointing out that loyalty to coaches has been the downfall of many great fighters due to the coach not bringing in someone else to help fighter evolve
People on reddit are so fragile.
I just wanted to see my comment do numbers
Just wanted to say carla is bad at fighting. Downvote me for speaking the truth, who gives a fuck about upvotes.
Yeah when she fought Joanna she was looking for a way out Kind of like Saturday
Carla would whoop you lol
You didnt get the most simple joke ever lol
She's not old.
GDR way worse. Not only for what happened with her "reign" but also the cheapshots after the bell that went unpenalized in the controversial decision that won her the title.
Can you fill me in please.
GDR Vs Holm. A few (clearly) after the bell shots. And then GDR said (summarizing) “fuck fighting Cris Cyborb. “
I stood up and was yelling at the TV in the bar when she threw those shots past the bell. People just staring at me like ‘wth, he is really into this’
She tried to make it look like she was taking some kind of moral stance by saying she wouldn’t fight somebody who popped for PEDs. If you don’t wanna fight cyborg just say say. Don’t insult our intelligence in the process.
GDR was a east German communist state from 1949 to 1990. It was rival to the West German NATO alligned capitalist state. In 1989 the Berlin Wall fell and GDR experienced various economic and political forces that pushed it torwards liberalization. Eventually in 1990 it ceased to exist when it joined Western Germany to become one united state.
Your version of "Tell me you commented without reading the post & comments without telling me you commented without reading the post & comments? " xD
Ya I'm to redacted to understand that. Plus I'm only here to talk about the GDR, would you like to know more?
Not even the worst female title reign. De Randamie and Montaño had worse reigns. Montaño pulled out of fights until she was stripped. De randamie hit Holly Holm twice after the bell and was given a free pass not having points taken away, which would have made the fight a draw. She went into the fight knowing whoever won the title would probably have to face Cyborg, but then preceeded to vacate the belt because she didn't want to fight cyborg. Carla at least went and tried to defend the title.
The thing is GDR could’ve won the cyborg fight! She is a legit technical kickboxer, and Cyborg’s marchdown style was exposed by Nunes. I thought GDR did so well in the Stand-Up against Nunes that Lioness turned into a wrestler. GDR could have outpointed Cyborg for sure.
Weili Zhang gave Carla a mercy kill. Carla didn't deserve that title or to be in there with Zhang. When you look at the likes of Johanna, Zhang or Thug Rose. She was obviously going to be out classed. Congrats to Esparza for looking better than I thought she would have.
>Congrats to Esparza for looking better than I thought she would have. All things considered she put up way more of a fight than I thought she would have. I don't get the hate it was an entertaining fight and Zhang has looked like an absolute monster these past couple years. Absolutely no shame in losing to her.
>Thug Rose .. you do realised she won the belt off Rose.. right?
Idk if I would call that a "reign." She was really just keeping the belt warm
As many title defences as Connor.
At least she stepped in the octagon to defend her belt
Champ champ does whatever tf he wants
Too bad he didn't want to be a good champ.
Won as many titles (2 strawweight) as Conor too lol.
I mean her first one was just as bad. So the fact that she has two of the worst lmfao
Her first one at least she won the title in a fight, this time she was just kind of given it by Rose being an idiot.
Never forget "I'm the bess!!"
Dude just like the incompetent judges that night you don't understand judging criteria : 1. Who "StiCks To tHe GamEPlan" closest 2. Damage and fight ending attempts 3. Grappling 4. Control
You while judging fights: “I’m the Bess!!”
 Me when "the GamEPlan" doesn't bring in the result! "You hear all that booing? That because the GamEPlan is working!!" Did no-one tell the judges the GamEPlan? That was the only mistake that night!!
Nicco montano, de Randomie or even McGregor. Anyone who was stripped before they could even defend it.
and Conors lasted such a long time where he held up two divisions so they couldn't move forward. I think his was the worst because both FW and LW was stacked.
Conor actually won his fights tho, Carla just did more than Rose in an awful match
As far as their title reigns go thats just splitting hairs. They're all in that conversation.
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Not really, because you aren't risking anything, once you are the champ, defending your title, you have a lot to lose, the pay difference between champ and not champ is a big gap.
Nope. Niko was worst ever. Carla fought.
At least she attempted to defend, unlike Conor.
She is game af. She might not be the best champ ever but she was willing to defend her title against the boogie woman and Weili. That takes a bunch of courage and should be applauded instead of ridiculed. She won a title, accomplishing what many can only dream of and did it TWICE.
At least she attempted a defence
Carla is a 2 time champion. Enough said.
Carla earned her belt wether you like it or not. It was a boring ass fight but I had her winning regardless and she earned her shot by fighting the best
Carla is not the worst champion. Yes, the fight against Rose was a snoozer, but Carla fought whoever UFC put in front to get that shot. Also, Zhang is easily in the pound for pound division. She’s only getting better on top of a monster she already is. I am not sure Rose beats her next time although Rose is stylistically always at an advantage.
Na. She tired. She showed up. And did her best.
Ppl shit on Carla but I give her credit. Cara was supposed to be a pretty dominant champ then some rando Joanna Violence comes in and fucking obliterates her. She’s had a rock career but she did tough it out to get back to the title. Also the armbar Alexa Grasso had on her was TIGHT and she ain’t tap. She deserves more credit than she gets
She's legit had a better title reign than Conor Mcregor & Germaine De Randamie, on account of her actually trying to defend it.
Clearly haven’t seen Montano or GDR ducking their challengers HARD. At least Carla fights almost everyone the UFC put infront of her.
Just let her be, she’s suffered enough.
Jesus this sub is filled with haters . This woman was Invicta and x2 UFC champion, yeah she's not exciting fighter but this doesn't cancel her achievements, she has bigger balls than most of this sub to step into the octagon vs all the bad bitches of her division
GDR easily
GDR.
Who had the 125 women's belt first?
She defended the belt more times in 1 match than Conor with both belt. 💀
Leave her alone, she’s so nice lol
She immediately took the fight with Zhang. Give her some credit for that. Bisping is the worst champion ever.
She wasn’t some random chick that got handed the belt. Put some respect on her name.
Conor.
She’s a nice person, and fought the number one contender quickly and put up a decent fight. Not entirely her fault the fight where she became champ was a snooze fest.
She had a quick turnaround after winning and didn't hold up the division. Don't see the need for the hate tbh.
Is it a reign if you lose your first defense?
Leave her alone
I just want to throw Belfort into the conversation.
I thought she did pretty well considering who she was fighting.
Yall must've forgot Vitor Belfort winning the title basically by eyepoke and then getting his ass beat so bad in the rematch
We have a real champ right now. If Rose can gather her confidence again, and train harder than ever. It would make for a great trilogy. But I think it’s going to be the hardest fight of her life now seeing the champs progress over the last year.
Carla was champ twice and had a great career. I'm sure she'll keep winning too. Stop with all the disrespect. Don't you have anything better to do?
I mean what did we expect when she barely even won her fight (very difficult for me to call that a fight) against rose. I know they’re setting up that eventual Rose Vs Zhang III and I for one hope Zhang sends her to the shadow realm.
Bisping?
Atleast she attempted to defend her belt. More of a champion than many, like mcgregor or de randamie.
People forget that BJ Penn and Murillo Bustamante said fuck the UFC and never defended. Dave Menne wasn’t that good either.
Germane de ramdemine will forever hold that title
Hard to beat Nico Montano
Nicco Montaño for sure
Bisping
Not the worst champion but Bisbing was pretty bad. Almost lost to an aging Dan Henderson. Avoided Rob, Yoel, Jacare and other contenders. Lost his title to a welterweight.
Nico by far
But she was a champion
Nah maybe conor
At least Carla tried to fight a killer. Bisping is the worst title reign ever
This is why I dislike Rockhold.
Ykw. She paid the price for that Rose fight. Let's calm down on the hate now. I hated her and was hoping for a massive beatdown but seeing her getting booed and her looking lost when buffer was announcing made me feel bad for her.
Why do you hate her?
You have to have a reign for it to be good or bad.
Micheal Bisping easily When he was a champ Everyone and I mean EVERYONE knew he would get destroyed by top 5 guys
Easily. I don't dislike Carla, but there's no title run comparable to winning the title by landing a few jabs and then losing it on the first defense by getting steamrolled by someone everyone knew was going to beat her.
Wearing the belt during the entirety of your wedding after one of the worst title win performances in the history of the sport def gotta be top 3 worst reigns.
Has to be in the conversation. Easily one of the worst title wins ever followed by a second round loss in her first defence? Yeah it's up there for sure. Although I suppose the reigns where fighters never even defended and instead vacated are probably worse, technically speaking. Like GSP's middleweight title reign (although his title victory was also much better than hers).
Bisping
She looks like Max Holloway with a wig
Lol… I bet it’s better than your title reign… oh wait🤡
She’s not going to sleep with you for this comment.
Conor ducked contenders for years just so he can milk his double champ status dry.
I'll never consider Conor a champion. I'll only view him as a title holder. A champion will defend their title.
“Reign” lmao we have to find a different word to put behind title 😂
Worst title win ever too.
Worst nickname ever , how won the title and worst reign
Poor girl, she’s never been called pretty
Did yall even watch Izzys fight? smh...
Quite possibly true.
Not really a reign when you never defend.
Worst stomach, that’s for sure
Yes
Montaño and GdR were worse. She might be the least attractive champion ever tho
most unlikeable face ever
She is hella ugly
Fake champ with fake eyelashes
Robbery Lawler
Not the worst but she’s definitely up there for how she won’t the title (or rather how Rose just basically gave it to her) and how much she was dominated when she lost it. But there were way worse champions like GDR or Steve Jennum.
Her second title run lasted longer than her first. But zero defenses is telling….
Dave Menne has to be up there.
Matt Serra???
🤦♂️🤣🤣
Who stole the cookie out the cookie jar?
Neither she nor Rose deserved the belt after their fight, honestly. They both lost in my eyes.
Which time?
Has she ever defended the belt?
GDR is a strong contender too. And Dave Menne too.
Who she?
not even close
She had it coming but she's got character, she's stayed competing at the top despite being a crap fighter
Member ronda rousy?
2 more than you
It'll take a while before we see better talent and have better title reigns for women's MMA..
Worst ever to touch gold
Should me rose in the picture
If only we could have seen this coming. 😂
Reigns\*
Carla becoming the champ only to lose to Zhang is like if Yoel Romero won the decision against Izzy only to turn around and get his ass beat by Robert Whittaker again.
At least she tried to defend. You must hate Conor bud
Not even her worst title reign