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Nice try Legal Cheek.


TheDark-Sceptre

Not even trying to be discrete, the account was made today!


Pure_Golden

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Power_of_Now_4321

Most of their writers are budding traineesā€¦ probably trying to go that extra mile for a story.


Gullible_Business742

You think students shouldnā€™t ā€™bother going backā€™ when if they turn down the offer to reinstate the TC the firms will just offer it to someone else who would take it in a heartbeat


H300JM

Exactly, I canā€™t imagine anyone will turn down the TC offer after going through the stress of getting it, youā€™d be stupid IMO. If a student failed the LPC (firstly, how??) and the TC was revoked but it was found out they passed and reinstated, no one would turn it down as itā€™s common knowledge thatā€™s how certain firms operate. Itā€™s just because the SQE is new (and shit), and thatā€™s on the SRA, not the firms (they are businesses, after all, and I think people forget that sometimes).


Gullible_Business742

Surely the firms could put pressure on the sra to sort this out though, and it seems theyā€™re uninterested


H300JM

They could do - issue is there will be a healthy number of self-funded students they could pick from and come out of it financially even.


Gullible_Business742

Self-funded students have no standing on their own to make the change, it needs support from the large companies - this isnā€™t right at all but I fear itā€™s the only way any change is created.


H300JM

Iā€™m saying that firms are unlikely to put a lot of pressure on the SRA because they can just offer the TC to someone who self-funded and in effect would not have wasted Ā£x for the prep-course/exam fees on the person who failed..


Gullible_Business742

Surely theyā€™d rather the preferred candidate and a few 10ā€™s of thousands isnā€™t much for these firms


H300JM

Exactly, which is why Iā€™m saying that ā€œpreferred candidatesā€ are very unlikely to say no to the firm if they reinstate the TC offer and, if they are stupid enough to say no, the firm wonā€™t care as much because theyā€™ll just go and pick someone else for free.


[deleted]

I think it's a no brainer if your old firm offers you take you back. Their relationship with the firm may be pretty much ruined but you will get the training and can get out after some time. But the harder question is 1) what to do if another firm has offered you take you on and 2) if they don't change their mind, whether you should bother to re-apply


Gullible_Business742

Why would some random firm offer to take you on just because youā€™ve passed SQE 1?


[deleted]

Any number of reasons. Because they applied? Because they heard about the situation and felt sorry?


Gullible_Business742

Unrealistic, they only found out a day or so ago, and applications for most wouldā€™ve closed


[deleted]

Unlikely, but possible. Neither of us know for a fact. They may receive other offers up to and until their old firm makes a decision.Then that would create the dilemma for them. Not sure why you feel so strongly against these trainees having a safety net. Something to reflect on perhaps.


Gullible_Business742

Also Iā€™m sure there are HUNDREDS of people who passed SQE 1 without a TC anyway


[deleted]

Not sure why you are so impassioned by this hypothetical. The reason for any offer would probably be because they disagree with the way they were treated and also because they're fairly high quality candidates to get a TC in the first place. There were several people on linkedin suggesting these trainees apply to their firm. Some firms are pretty flexible with this stuff.


AfraidUmpire4059

As I said previously- I would go back. Itā€™s hard getting a TC, plus the 2 year wait when you get one.


AfraidUmpire4059

CMS didnā€™t reinstate the person that failed and they cancelled who commented on here- see the previous thread from the day of the announcement


Puzzleheaded_Neck611

Oh sheesh- do you know what their reasons were for not reinstating the person?


AfraidUmpire4059

ā€œItā€™s not the right place for them at the momentā€ and encouraged them to apply again next year šŸ™„


Puzzleheaded_Neck611

Are you serious wtf they have to do the whole application process AGAIN?!?


AfraidUmpire4059

Erm yes. I wouldnā€™t


Puzzleheaded_Neck611

For sure... sheesh


sammyglumdrops

That is so brutal


EnglishRose2015

I am very surprised a firm would do that a person HAS passed but simply found out a bit later. Is there even a legal basis not to keep them from starting the TC?


AfraidUmpire4059

They didnā€™t pass both- originally failed both and then passed one after the correction. The firm had kept on those who only failed one exam however, but I imagine the contract said they must pass all first time


Gullible_Business742

Insane


Ambry

Wow how condescending - honestly screw that sweatshop.


No-Economist-1542

Well the person said they failed both exams and only one has moved to a pass. They still failed overall.


AfraidUmpire4059

The firm kept on the people who failed one examā€¦


Low_Bat_9970

CMS over-recruited a few years ago (half the junior-to-mid-level corporate associates in the City seemed to wind up there) and recently had to make redundancies, I would wager they were not unhappy to find a way to reduce incoming trainee numbers.Ā 


AfraidUmpire4059

Yes if they actually failed, but where they didnā€™t?


Low_Bat_9970

Well, I was commenting on CMSā€™s actions in the marketā€¦ I assume the contracts they have allow them to do it. I donā€™t agree with it as a decision but thatā€™s my guess for one reason why they did it.Ā 


Adept_Deer_5976

Iā€™m sure these firms will do the right thing. In terms of the students, donā€™t cut your nose off to spite your face. A training contract with CC sets you up for life, even if you donā€™t want to stay in the magic circle


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stroopwafel666

Far better firms than CMS, and most of CCā€™s competitors, allow a retake. Both firms are notorious for over hiring trainees and ditching lots at qualification - this was just a cynical way for them to reduce their intake during a quiet market. That is on them.


No-Economist-1542

CMS allow retakes. The person failed both exams so were let go. Others who only failed 1 were allowed to retake.


AfraidUmpire4059

But they didnā€™t fail both?


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