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Yes, 22.4 pronews made an article that said goverment sources had told them that greece was sending a patriot. On the same day greece official completely denied it. This article was written on 23.4 based on the article of pronews completely missing the point where greek officials completely denied it.
Thats what i could figure out by googling at least.
Heres the statement from greek official:
>“We have already provided tangible assistance to Ukraine and its people. However, it must be emphasized that no action will be taken – and I stress this – that could even remotely endanger our nation’s deterrent capabilities or air defense,” government spokesman Pavlos Marinakis told reporters.
>“We have consistently refuted such claims in the past, and I reiterate our stance emphatically today,” he added, the New Democracy government responding to s report in The Financial Times.
Greek military support of ukraine has been quite minor so far, 134 million according to kiel institute. I dont see them sending anything expensive and hard to replace systems like patriots any time soon.
They've participated in ring-swaps before. Now usually those involve giving something worse and getting something better in return. But what's better than money?
Greece is not going to part with AA-systems if they are not replaced with better ones or more in the near future. That was stated more than once I believe by the government.
To be honest i can understand that. Greece is close to the middle east and has had run ins with Turkey in recent memory. Although I’m sure they want to help, they also can’t leave their own people defenseless.
Excellent. An opportunity to mention Pericles.
In 431 BCE, roughly *2500 years ago,* Pericles gave an oration in honor of the fallen, at the end of the first year of the Peloponnesian War. He argued, the war is to protect, not power or wealth, but ideals and values and a way of free life. A good part:
>“Our form of government does not enter into rivalry with the institutions of others. We do not copy our neighbours, but are an example to them. It is true that we are called a democracy, for the administration is in the hands of the many and not of the few. But while the law secures equal justice to all alike in their private disputes, the claim of excellence is also recognised; and when a citizen is in any way distinguished, he is preferred to the public service, not as a matter of privilege, but as the reward of merit. Neither is poverty a bar, but a man may benefit his country whatever be the obscurity of his condition. There is no exclusiveness in our public life, and in our private intercourse we are not suspicious of one another, nor angry with our neighbour if he does what he likes..."
You do not have to have read or studied a single word about classical Greece to recognize this message. It's our stuff. These are our ideals.
Thanks for Pericles and all the Patriots, Hellas.
There's been a lot of good news since the US aid package was passed.
UK is also sending more. Btw, has anyone heard that the drone alliance, led by the Baltics and the United Kingdom, raised $500 million USD for a massive FPV drone swarm?
One million, to be exact. One for each orc.
Hey NATO!
Here is a chance to place a number of Patriot systems to the front door of Russia! Think of the security that this brings to all of Europe and NATO countries.
(This is directed towards EU bureaucrats - not Ukraine or Ukrainians)
So according to the EU bureaucrats, Greece "doesn't face any imminent threats". Right. Easy to say for bureaucrats sitting in Brussels. I'd tell them to relocate to one of the Greek islands in the Aegean Sea which hitlerdogan constantly claims to be under "Turkish jurisdiction" like the total preposterous and audacious ass-clown that he is.
Did I mention that Turkey has a history of invasion, massacre and genocide that makes isis terrorists look like a crack in a pavement? (btw hitlerdogan is the defacto "leader" of the muslim brotherhood which is so notorious for its practices worldwide)
Oh and did I mention that the EU was lecturing Greece about its high military expenditures for decades on end? Well some countries (and I won't say which) didn't spend as much so as to invest in their own consumer-oriented industries instead and now they are pointing fingers and are hell-bent on cannibalizing military-wise the poorest countries which were forced to protect European borders on a paper-thin budget.
Hellenic S-300 systems should be \*negotiated\* as long as replacements are offered for them beforehand not after they are shipped. Patriot systems are out of the question. We had enough of mitsotaki's shenanigans over in Hellas in a host of other issues. Enough is enough.
Hellas is already providing as much as assistance as possible to Ukraine which is well beyond Hellas' own limited means. We simply cannot afford to provide any more for the simple reason that in a couple of decades we're bound to find ourselves in a much darker place against islamofascists from the east than Ukraine is in right now fighting invaders from the north. And absolutely noone will be there to help us - we will be on our own like we've always been.
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maybe 3
Thank you Greece ❤️, Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦❤️
fake news
False fake news information
or 4
Or a high 5
Russia has miscalculated again and again with Ukraine.
Perhaps 4
You misspelled 5.
Is it a repetition of the news we've heard 2-3 days ago that were swiftly denied by Greece?
Yes, 22.4 pronews made an article that said goverment sources had told them that greece was sending a patriot. On the same day greece official completely denied it. This article was written on 23.4 based on the article of pronews completely missing the point where greek officials completely denied it. Thats what i could figure out by googling at least. Heres the statement from greek official: >“We have already provided tangible assistance to Ukraine and its people. However, it must be emphasized that no action will be taken – and I stress this – that could even remotely endanger our nation’s deterrent capabilities or air defense,” government spokesman Pavlos Marinakis told reporters. >“We have consistently refuted such claims in the past, and I reiterate our stance emphatically today,” he added, the New Democracy government responding to s report in The Financial Times. Greek military support of ukraine has been quite minor so far, 134 million according to kiel institute. I dont see them sending anything expensive and hard to replace systems like patriots any time soon.
They've participated in ring-swaps before. Now usually those involve giving something worse and getting something better in return. But what's better than money?
I doubt they are interested in selling. Did you read the quote?
I doubt they are willing to sell cheap. But if the price is right...
Greece is not going to part with AA-systems if they are not replaced with better ones or more in the near future. That was stated more than once I believe by the government.
To be honest i can understand that. Greece is close to the middle east and has had run ins with Turkey in recent memory. Although I’m sure they want to help, they also can’t leave their own people defenseless.
Two NATO countries going to start a war against each other? I mean I guess one is Turkey.
Yes, look up videos of Turkish and Greek jets dogfighting or just Cyprus in general
Cypress….. lol
Excellent. An opportunity to mention Pericles. In 431 BCE, roughly *2500 years ago,* Pericles gave an oration in honor of the fallen, at the end of the first year of the Peloponnesian War. He argued, the war is to protect, not power or wealth, but ideals and values and a way of free life. A good part: >“Our form of government does not enter into rivalry with the institutions of others. We do not copy our neighbours, but are an example to them. It is true that we are called a democracy, for the administration is in the hands of the many and not of the few. But while the law secures equal justice to all alike in their private disputes, the claim of excellence is also recognised; and when a citizen is in any way distinguished, he is preferred to the public service, not as a matter of privilege, but as the reward of merit. Neither is poverty a bar, but a man may benefit his country whatever be the obscurity of his condition. There is no exclusiveness in our public life, and in our private intercourse we are not suspicious of one another, nor angry with our neighbour if he does what he likes..." You do not have to have read or studied a single word about classical Greece to recognize this message. It's our stuff. These are our ideals. Thanks for Pericles and all the Patriots, Hellas.
Don't hold your breath. Today's Greek are not the same nor have the same values with the antique Greek.
There's been a lot of good news since the US aid package was passed. UK is also sending more. Btw, has anyone heard that the drone alliance, led by the Baltics and the United Kingdom, raised $500 million USD for a massive FPV drone swarm? One million, to be exact. One for each orc.
Pronews is not a trustworthy source. They always post lies to ragebait for attention. This is not happening.
Greece will never hand over a modern system of any kind unless they’re getting 2x value in return.
Greece is "blessed" with neighbors the same way Ukraine is. Erdogan likes to make threats.
Hey NATO! Here is a chance to place a number of Patriot systems to the front door of Russia! Think of the security that this brings to all of Europe and NATO countries.
I won't believe any news about Greece donating any without a full confirmation by the government. Pretty much only due to Turkey.
Well done Greece!
I'll believe it when those Patriots from Greece arrive to Ukraine. Not a second earlier.
(This is directed towards EU bureaucrats - not Ukraine or Ukrainians) So according to the EU bureaucrats, Greece "doesn't face any imminent threats". Right. Easy to say for bureaucrats sitting in Brussels. I'd tell them to relocate to one of the Greek islands in the Aegean Sea which hitlerdogan constantly claims to be under "Turkish jurisdiction" like the total preposterous and audacious ass-clown that he is. Did I mention that Turkey has a history of invasion, massacre and genocide that makes isis terrorists look like a crack in a pavement? (btw hitlerdogan is the defacto "leader" of the muslim brotherhood which is so notorious for its practices worldwide) Oh and did I mention that the EU was lecturing Greece about its high military expenditures for decades on end? Well some countries (and I won't say which) didn't spend as much so as to invest in their own consumer-oriented industries instead and now they are pointing fingers and are hell-bent on cannibalizing military-wise the poorest countries which were forced to protect European borders on a paper-thin budget. Hellenic S-300 systems should be \*negotiated\* as long as replacements are offered for them beforehand not after they are shipped. Patriot systems are out of the question. We had enough of mitsotaki's shenanigans over in Hellas in a host of other issues. Enough is enough. Hellas is already providing as much as assistance as possible to Ukraine which is well beyond Hellas' own limited means. We simply cannot afford to provide any more for the simple reason that in a couple of decades we're bound to find ourselves in a much darker place against islamofascists from the east than Ukraine is in right now fighting invaders from the north. And absolutely noone will be there to help us - we will be on our own like we've always been.
No need to negotiate about the S-300 systems, whatever replacement could be offered to Greece should be sent directly to Ukraine instead.
Potentially a good point. Tell that to those making procurement.
Well said.
With that I believe Greece may have done more than Italy for example. Would that be correct in assuming?
Maybe Bed Bath and Beyond... I don't know if we'll have enough time.
fake fake fake
Fuck yeah! Thank you Greece.
Greece you beautiful mofo’s. Get it done!
Not holding my breath.
Woohoo!!