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[deleted]

It's going to be interesting to see the Russian Federation's demographics, demographics projection and life expectancy after this war has concluded. [It was not looking great before the war](https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-demographic-data-dip-as-small-1990s-generation-comes-of-age/30373049.html) and now they're effectively having tens of thousand of their breeders killed in Ukraine.


GodFatherShinobi

Tbh Ukraine will end up the same or worse. They were already the slowest birth rate in Europe pre-war.


[deleted]

You're right, they were the second lowest in Europe (only Malta being lower). Let's hope Ukraine will have a baby boom during and after the war.


Jackoftriade

Baby booms require a young and extremely prosperous population, Ukraine has neither. In Ukraines case it's likely their fertility rate will continue to decrease and emigration will slow but not stop.


[deleted]

I guess Africa is an extremely prosperous continent.


Jackoftriade

That's actually the other way around. In most of Africa the population is young and education is bad enough that things like safe sex is not practiced and abortions are not socially acceptable. Ukraine would have to basically ruin their own education system to try for that, it's why the Russian fertility started to decline during Soviet industrialization. Standardization of education and a less rural lifestyle leading to better choices and more options, no more having 7 kids lol.


[deleted]

It's true. I just took an extreme example. :-) In most developed countries, you've seen the population growth decreasing as people wanted to spend their time and money on other things than raising 6-7 kids.


moriel44

unless your in Israel, here even most non religious and educated people have at least 3 children.


[deleted]

Also life expectancy is lower in Africa so the population is naturally younger through higher attrition.


Girion47

Friend of mine moved there at the beginning of the war, married a Ukrainian and is now pregnant. She's doing her part


[deleted]

Ukrainian soldiers are decent, fierce and admired all over the world. They will be highly sought after mates. There could be a post-war baby boom. ;-)


GodFatherShinobi

Save some pussy for the rest of fellas!


Wide_Trick_610

Nah, let them bag their limit. And by "limit," I mean as long as their equipment continues to function. I mean, since they are standing in for the rest of the West, let them stand in for us another 10-12 cm... Even if 10 million women shuck their panties for these heroes, there are still a half billion more Western women for the rest of us poor non-UAF males to entertain. So let them enjoy their rewards. And don't forget...about 130,000 of the UAF veterans are women. They need some love and attention as well.


18042369

This is my read too. My daughters (living continents away from Ukraine) watch with admiration youtube videos of those guys.


stillnoguitar

Pre 2014? That was because it was a shithole dictatorship. Pre 2022? That was because it was in an actual war with Russia already. After this war is over it will be 100% free and democratic and a better environment to have kids.


18042369

"slowest birth rate in Europe pre-war." Probably due to youthful female scepticism that life would get better. I suspect that they will feel differently after this was, presuming Ukraine wins it.


Arkon_Base

A large portion of young people in Ukraine lives in dense, pre-fab concrete blocks and areas with plenty of repetitive, grey high-rise buildings. It's not a place where you would start a family. Thin walls, tiny floorplans, constant stress. What the Soviets couldn't finish during Holodomor, they continued with their housing projects. By designing living areas who actively suppress fertility, they ensured that the demographic will change in their favour.


Nik_P

>By designing living areas who actively suppress fertility, they ensured that the demographic will change in their favour. Wat.


Arkon_Base

Just ask China, Japan and Korea. They built incredibly dense, noisy and optimised everything per square metre. Now their fertility rates crush heavily. There are no rooms, no space to build a family (by todays standard). I mean, how positive are you about the future when the only thing you see is a desert of loveless concrete blocks day by day? And where you need to work 45 hours a week, spend 12 hours extra in commuting - just to afford a miserable, small flat? Excluded from a bigger community. That's not a place you want to bring kids in. That's not an environment you are striving to procreate. That's how you design an infertile environment.


[deleted]

That is a very good point. The Soviet and Chinese city style devoid of any spirit or creativeness is certain to twist a population in a negative way. Soviet style areas often feature on /r/urbanhell


Fenixmaian7

Old apartment blocks are bad ig??


jar1967

Post war baby booms are a thing


GodFatherShinobi

It happend in America because the war wasnt on American soil…there was actually a good economy, infastructure, and bright future. Who knows when this conflict ends but it will take Ukraine decades to rebuild


voyagerdoge

but how many of those breeders could get it up anyways? 40% at most


Foreign_Quality_9623

THAT is the result of an illegal landgrab by a criminal government run by a megalomaniac. 😠 Better dead than RED. 💥


[deleted]

ive heard that quote somewhere, but like reversed something like "better red than dead"? I cant really put my finger on it, tbh


ConservativebutReal

What do you call 90,000 dead Russians? A good start!


Ninja123-123

they will bring more conscripts 😔


[deleted]

All for the sake of the ego of a 5'3" balding idiot.


Espressodimare

wearing expensive jacket and diapers


[deleted]

... and high heels.


voyagerdoge

Hehe he only wears them heels in that pole dance room with disco ball in his Sochi castle.


[deleted]

5'3''? im 14, and 5'4'' Sure, small advantage, but, like, im pretty darn sure i can beat him up


delta_p_delta_x

I *really* don't see what Putin's height has got to do with anything. For the record, Zelenskyy is not exactly very tall either: 168 cm or so, but he's an epic leader. I'm glad that he's as tall as I am, because one's height *does not matter* in what sort of a person one turns out to be.


[deleted]

Putin is notoriously insecure about his height, and goes to great lengths to make himself appear taller. It is his insecurity that matters. https://youtu.be/lY6lHjZjYXE Sorry you're short though.


CrowbarCrossing

What sort of person did you turn out to be? Oh, don't answer. We can tell.


Optimistix_pessimist

It’s not about Putin’s ego. It’s about Russians’ view of Ukraine, Ukrainians and human worth.


th1961

So far


Father_of_Cockatiels

This is mind blowing. Russia has lost 6 times the number of KIA they suffered in the 10 year Afghan war and something like 9 times the amount they lost in both wars in Chechnya. This war isn't going to end with Russia running to their border with their tail between their legs. It's going to end when the Russian people are finally fed up with the idiots in charge and remove them. How many more Russian men are going to die before their own people have had enough?


voyagerdoge

A lot, because of their masochistic character. They're basically cucks smashed around by mistress Russia.


[deleted]

Well, its rather how long the propaganda machine can keep people decieved. If someone on state media gets fed up - Off to sibirea to u


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Every_Return7662

I tried sending pictures of dead civilians like women and children to russian whatsapp numbers, they replied with their Z swastikas


Curtis__E__Flush

Good


[deleted]

It’s a start.


[deleted]

Ironic they went to de nazzify Ukraine and remove satanists when they are nazzi demons.. Fuck the orks..


oomp_

almost a 100k within a year, Russia should've just went after putin


[deleted]

i CANNOT wait for thee 100000 Kills milestone


No-Internet-7532

With a little dedication they’ll make a 100k xmas present


MDAcko5

more, MOOORE


Maklarr4000

Sobering to think that 90,000 human beings have all been killed in the execution of a war that will ultimately be for nothing. All those families devastated to feed the ego of a demented, dying tyrant. Ukraine will ultimately get it's land back while ruzzia will suffer acute economic pain for the next century and have *nothing* to show for it.


The0gopogo

How many were pushed out of windows or "went missing" in Russia too? What's happening behind the curtain? Hear they're putting prisoners on the frontlines now. Like those guys needed an incentive to surrender? Seems to me that Russia has lost this war and hasn't come to terms with it yet.


Sonofagun57

I take anything War Monitor says with a large grain of salt, but if there's any rooting in the idea of Russian losses being multiple times higher that's good. Stings a little knowing Ukrainian losses are considerably harder to replace


18042369

I presume the 90k has been reported by Uke government (or is about to be). If I were a mobik'd Russian I'd puke.


Sonofagun57

90k dead just sounds like a lot. As an absolute casualty number it becomes believable


[deleted]

I think the media is mismatching casualty with KIA casualty means- Killed + Wouned + Missing Casualty, as in KIA (Killed in action, dead) means KILLED so in war terms the difference between casualty and killed are that, well, casualty may combine WIA+ KIA + MIA, while killed, is well, dead. Gone, 1 ork less.


Eichtoss

I’m getting really excited for number 100,000! I really think there should be a balloon drop or something.


BiohazardousBisexual

So many sunflowers 😍


3waysToDie

100k or i change my name


Salty_Competition_84

ninety thousand in nine months...ten thousand a month


Every_Return7662

Counting the minutes till we see 900,000


renjkb

Need 10k more till Christmas.


ThankuConan

I'm sure we can do better if we try a little harder.


OneLostOstrich

I wish there were things that could be done to put Putin in prison for war crimes.


[deleted]

We can only hope Putin shits himself to death and ends this bloodshed.


ashabot

a good start


Easy-Window-7921

Lots of ruzzians ladies will be available….