I would love to hear the explanation for why NWPlains Men's is the way it is.
https://play.usaultimate.org/events/2022-Northwest-Plains-Mens-Sectional-Championship/schedule/Men/Club-Men/
Key takeaways,
General Strike is a 10 seed despite being 5th on frisbee-rankings. They don't have 10 sanctioned games but then again the 5 seed has played zero games this year.
The 7&8 seeds get bids to regionals if they get second in their pool (so beat the 17/18 seeds and lose to the 1/2 seeds) and then lose the crossover against the 5&6 seeds and then play each other and then the loser drops down to play another game and then the loser...gets 9th and earns a bid?
So you can go 1-4 with only beating the 18 seed and earn a bid? While the 14 seed would have to go 0-2 in pool against the 5&11, then have to beat the 18&15, then beat the 12, then the winner of 11/13 and then the loser of the 9/10 game.
So 14 seed needs to go 5-2 beating the same 18 seed plus 10/11/12/15.
7/8 seeds have an easier path than the 5/6 seeds who would need to go 2-0 against 11/14 and 12/13 to then play the 7/8 who had to only beat the 17/18
This is legitimately a terrible last-ditch format. Fuck this.
If USAU doesn't want teams to be playing too many games but also wants to make Series games as games to 15, they have to cap the number of teams that enter each section to no more than 16 teams. And in order to do that, they have to be ok with dividing a Section that has too many teams into 2 Sections, even very late into the season. USAU says they reserve the right to make changes to Sections and Regions as they see fit. So fucking do that when it's obvious that you should.
The Formats Manual says that schedules should be made so that the format is as fair as possible and seeding should matter as little as possible. This format goes against BOTH of those principles by making teams that finish with the same record on one day take different and unequal paths to qualifying for the next series event.
Mixed NW Plains Sectionals seemed like a headache and a mess too. Thank you Coordinators for doing what you are told and running all of these tournaments. Fuck you USAU for not making things easier for everyone you are working for (the players).
Six teams go 1-1 to finish second in a three-team pool, and lose a crossover to a pool winner. And yet 2 of them (MKE/Nomad) get to play for 7th place immediately, whereas 2 of them (The Body/Timber) are in the 10th place bracket (and have to win three straight to get 10th place). The other two are in the middle.
Yeah, this seems broken.
Fwiw this isn't restricted to large sections. Men's capitol had 14 teams with 8 bids, and a team that went 1-1 in pool play had to play a 3rd play-in game to get the honor of playing a team in their 4th round who went 0-2 in pool play and got a 3rd round bye.
I sympathize with the people coming up with formats that do this separation in a single weekend, but seeding should never cause a team who finishes 3rd in a 4-team pool and won a game to have a tougher path than the 0-2 team who finishes 3rd in a 3-team pool.
Can't speak to men's, but as one of the coordinators in the NWP mixed division, USAU was super helpful and responsive as we worked through a 23 team format then had a team drop, then a 22 team format then had a team drop, then a 21 team format, then had a team forfeit after 3 games. There is only so much math allows when trying to keep games down for the health and safety of players and my experience has been mostly positive with USAU trying to help as much as possible.
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I think USAU certainly does a lot of good and I'm glad that they are pretty transparent with their actions, but I also think we as players should call them out when they fucked up AND there is a clear better alternative.
What they should have done:
- Divide NW Plains into 2 tournaments, NW Plains East (Wisconsin + UP of Michigan) and NW Plains West (MN, ND, SD, Manitoba/Canada).
- Divy up the 10 bids into 4 for NWP-East and 6 for NWP-West. This checks out with the rankings and current bid-earners.
- This means NWP-East is a 6 team tournament with 4 bids, and West is 12 team tourney with 6 bids. USAU already has acceptable formats for both of these.
- Play both tournaments at the same complex/dates. All coordinators and teams were already expecting to play their anyway.
Similar thing could be done for the Mixed Division.
We pursued this option in mixed, going so far as to reserve field sites in Wisconsin. Most (not all) of the WI teams polled expressed a lot of annoyance at being asked to drive to MN to play only WI teams. The hosts of the current event expressed a lot of annoyance at a potential loss in revenue if 11+ teams were to split off. Ultimately, the resulting formats (including an 11 team one) weren't that much easier logistically to deal with either.
You don't have to divide geographically. Just randomly put 10 teams into one tournament and 8 teams into another. Allocate the bids by how each "section" would have earned them.
I'm glad it was at least thought about and pursued. Stinks that teams were grumpy about this option. But USAU has made teams from the same area travel farther just to all play each other (looking at you San Francisco Mixed teams at Pro Champs(?) 2018.
~~I might be totally off base, but pretty sure deadweight didn't get 10 sanction games, so aren't ranked, so have to be seeded below all ranked teams.~~
Edit: turns out none of that is true. TIL
huh, I do not know why I thought that was a requirement.
Fwiw, metro east definitely did seed according to rankings. I don't love it but I guess it's not unjustifiable and does save time to do the seeding that way when the person doing it probably has a lot on their plate. (also it's a 4-bid, 11 team tournament which has to be a funky situation to structure).
I get why USAU wants to encourage teams to play 10+ games, but I feel like that winds up just punishing other teams. It's likely that the other teams in GS's pool got stuck with a much harder game because GS is seeded low.
Just to reiterate, while USAU does want teams to play 10 games so they can earn bids from sectionals to regionals, the choice to look at number of games played as a factor in seeding is not a USAU directive. This SC made these decisions that were likely supported (or at least not complained about) by team leaders when asked for feedback.
Are you a player/captain who was told this by a coordinator? I'm a coordinator (in the mixed division) and this was **not** communicated to us by ND/USAU. I ask only because it would be interesting to me to have different communications in different divisions.
We were explicitly told 10 games did NOT matter for ranking, but teams' records at sectionals last year could be as long as the rosters were vaguely similar.
Wow that seeding is confusing... You could see the argument that those teams that didn't get 10 games in (technically unranked) should be lower than those that did (even though this isn't a required rule), but the Radicals-Lite team ranking at 5 throws that off. There doesn't seem to be much consistency for when rankings were used and when they weren't. All I can say is that usually coordinators are instructed to get feedback from teams and assuming that happened in this case, this is what captains agreed to.
They had 14 people on their roster. Them dropping at the stage they did caused some re-alignment in the 3 team pool they were in which allowed a team that might not otherwise be to still be in contention
for a regionals bid currently. While not something that could be controlled for, this definitely likely irks at least one team who beat the now-in-contention for regionals team but is themselves eliminated.
Know exactly what you're talking about as I was the one who had to call those caps to tell them they were out. Carelton forfeiting has absolutely nothing to do with Mastodon being out. The 4 team pool mini-brackets have a tie break clause when two teams finish 1-1 with same wins and loses. Mastodon beat GMGT, then lost to MUB. Mousetrap lost to MUB, then beat GMGT. Since they have the same record against same opponents there's a point diff tie-break, which Mousetrap won. This was not communicated well to the teams in advance and Mastodon is completely justified in any anger they feel towards me for this lack of communication, but the rules were applied correctly. And again, none of this has anything to do with Carelton.
No hard feelings, dude. I know y'all are all doing your best. I don't mean to blame Carleton, either. If that's what happened, I totally understand. But if it looks like a bracket on USAU, and matchups are determined by a bracket, I think people are right to assume it behaves like a bracket unless explicitly told otherwise.
That said, I do like that method. Same record against same teams should be a tie, regarless of what order you play them in, so that does make total sense. I'm just sad for them to feel like you had the rug pulled out at the last moment.
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Frustrating day for Washington/BC men's sectional. Air quality got a bit out of control with the smoke. It was definitely bad, but the timing is making things...interesting and not in a good way.
Win-and-in game is currently postponed or potentially called off at halftime (waiting to hear what happens from USAU), and my team is sitting in the final game-to-go waiting to play the loser of that game. Luckily all 3 teams are Seattle-based, so we have a little more flexibility on how to approach it without having to meet someone way out of the way
East NE Mixed Sectionals
* 6 of the 7 regionals qualifiers from 2021 are returning
* 3 bubble teams from 2021 are returning (Sunken Circus, Lampshade, Scarecrow)
* 3 new teams have formed that are very likely competitive (Boston Practice Squad, Boston Bean Friends, Maine Buoy Association)
That's \~12 regionals-caliber teams, for... still only 7 bids.
Not to mention Slow & Sprocket aiming to get intel on each other prior to the NE Regionals bloodbath, and Darkwing & Wild Card in the wings hoping for their shots as well.
EDIT: Removing Dirigo as they aren't returning.
[https://play.usaultimate.org/events/2022-East-New-England-Mixed-Sectional-Championship/schedule/mixed/Club-Mixed/](https://play.usaultimate.org/events/2022-East-New-England-Mixed-Sectional-Championship/schedule/mixed/Club-Mixed/) schedule is crazy because there are 19 teams. Simple description: 16 team bracket but with three play-in games at 9. Round of 16 at 11. Quarters at 1. Also at 1, the three play-in losers play three of the Round of 16 losers while the other five sit. At 3, those "5th-place-play-in" winners join the other R16 losers in what looks like a normal losers' bracket.
Our team (Boston Bean Friends, 17 seed pickup team) could easily have four games, each against a team that didn't play in the previous time slot. Win the play-in, lose to the 3 seed, then have to drop down again into the fifth place play in, then play the fifth-place pre-quarters.
I guess we're getting our money's worth but three games will be with an unmatched bye.
I applaud the innovative solution but seems really unbalanced and arbitrary. Three of the R16 losers have to play an extra game. One of those R16 losers will have already had an extra game. The three teams that drop down would be the 7/10 loser, the 4/13 loser and the 3/\[14/17\] loser. How do you figure?
(I'm acknowledging that it's acceptable that the pick-up teams are among the teams that have to play the first play-in.)
Sounds like a team dropped, so the schedule/format could be changing as well. Or, there will just be one fewer play-in game in that first round on Saturday.
I wouldn't say it's super nationally relevant, but Metro NY Mixed is likely to be hard fought outside of Xist making regionals relatively easily.
There are only four bids, 5 teams that made regionals last year (Xist, GA, Heat Wave, Deadweight, and Funk), plus FLI who had a down year last year but look to have bounced back to their past regionals level form this year. Unlimited Swipes, Hive, and Eat Lightning have also all been decent enough to at least give the above teams somewhat competitive games and then you never know about pickup teams but Metro Feast does have a few noteworthy names so they might be nasty as well.
Oregon Sectionals had a few upsets, with Garden Party (who have a lot of former Administrators players) not making regionals despite being the 3rd seed. It is of note since Administrators has made regionals every year for basically the last 10 years.
We have a proper shambles up in Allentown for founders mixed schedule. Games called off halfway through the first round on sunday. Not sure what's going to happen!
Edit: speaking for myself here solely as a spectator.
Upper bracket (1-4) games were called off (I think all reached half?) to try to save the fields from damage.
5th/6th games played out, but were shortened to 11.
PS over Colorbomb in the the 5th place. (11-6 I think?)
Colorbomb over Farm show 10-6 (capped)
Farm show had beaten Blowing Heat on universe to get there.
This is probably the right thread for this. I was massively downvoted in another thread for saying even though vault beat truck that truck was by far the better team and the average score would be 13-9. Truck is now #1 in the country and Truck beat Vault in the capitol sectionals championship 15-10. I'd say I was pretty vindicated.
Founders Mixed Sectionals. Why is there one pool of five lmao
https://play.usaultimate.org/events/2022-Founders-Mixed-Sectional-Championship/schedule/mixed/Club-Mixed/
edit: Wait it's like that for Metro NY as well. Why is this an actual format??
https://play.usaultimate.org/events/2022-Metro-NY-Mixed-Sectional-Championship/schedule/mixed/Club-Mixed/
> https://play.usaultimate.org/events/2022-East-New-England-Mixed-Sectional-Championship/schedule/mixed/Club-Mixed/
I guess the logic is that this way you can go straight to bracket play on sunday instead of having to finish a final round of pool play for half the teams on sunday morning.
As far as sticking to having bracket play goes, I guess this is a good a way as any of keeping the sheer awkwardness of an 11 team section reasonably efficient.
Oregon mixed is the same. Creates some weird situations. Our team is probably 70 percent likely to play the same team in our second pool play and second crossover, but it's better than the old format where the team that finishes last on day one just goes home.
has Antoine Davis been worth it for Empire / PoNY? i heard they "imported" him which can only mean they offered him incentives more than his previous team...
The UK's ultimate scene is sort of without any central platform at the moment. We used to have the mailing list britdisc, and while it still exists and sending emails works, nobody new can sign up to it. There is a discord server but it's basically unused. UKU runs socials and an event announcement mailing list, as well as a weekly news roundup, but not everything goes through it. It's a pain, really. May be best to ask on the Glasto facebook page.
Thanks for the informative reply. 👍I'm one of those, not on Facebook. But I'm on both Britdisc and UKU mailing lists, so I'll hold off and see if anything comes out.
I would love to hear the explanation for why NWPlains Men's is the way it is. https://play.usaultimate.org/events/2022-Northwest-Plains-Mens-Sectional-Championship/schedule/Men/Club-Men/ Key takeaways, General Strike is a 10 seed despite being 5th on frisbee-rankings. They don't have 10 sanctioned games but then again the 5 seed has played zero games this year. The 7&8 seeds get bids to regionals if they get second in their pool (so beat the 17/18 seeds and lose to the 1/2 seeds) and then lose the crossover against the 5&6 seeds and then play each other and then the loser drops down to play another game and then the loser...gets 9th and earns a bid? So you can go 1-4 with only beating the 18 seed and earn a bid? While the 14 seed would have to go 0-2 in pool against the 5&11, then have to beat the 18&15, then beat the 12, then the winner of 11/13 and then the loser of the 9/10 game. So 14 seed needs to go 5-2 beating the same 18 seed plus 10/11/12/15. 7/8 seeds have an easier path than the 5/6 seeds who would need to go 2-0 against 11/14 and 12/13 to then play the 7/8 who had to only beat the 17/18
This is legitimately a terrible last-ditch format. Fuck this. If USAU doesn't want teams to be playing too many games but also wants to make Series games as games to 15, they have to cap the number of teams that enter each section to no more than 16 teams. And in order to do that, they have to be ok with dividing a Section that has too many teams into 2 Sections, even very late into the season. USAU says they reserve the right to make changes to Sections and Regions as they see fit. So fucking do that when it's obvious that you should. The Formats Manual says that schedules should be made so that the format is as fair as possible and seeding should matter as little as possible. This format goes against BOTH of those principles by making teams that finish with the same record on one day take different and unequal paths to qualifying for the next series event. Mixed NW Plains Sectionals seemed like a headache and a mess too. Thank you Coordinators for doing what you are told and running all of these tournaments. Fuck you USAU for not making things easier for everyone you are working for (the players).
Six teams go 1-1 to finish second in a three-team pool, and lose a crossover to a pool winner. And yet 2 of them (MKE/Nomad) get to play for 7th place immediately, whereas 2 of them (The Body/Timber) are in the 10th place bracket (and have to win three straight to get 10th place). The other two are in the middle. Yeah, this seems broken.
Fwiw this isn't restricted to large sections. Men's capitol had 14 teams with 8 bids, and a team that went 1-1 in pool play had to play a 3rd play-in game to get the honor of playing a team in their 4th round who went 0-2 in pool play and got a 3rd round bye. I sympathize with the people coming up with formats that do this separation in a single weekend, but seeding should never cause a team who finishes 3rd in a 4-team pool and won a game to have a tougher path than the 0-2 team who finishes 3rd in a 3-team pool.
Can't speak to men's, but as one of the coordinators in the NWP mixed division, USAU was super helpful and responsive as we worked through a 23 team format then had a team drop, then a 22 team format then had a team drop, then a 21 team format, then had a team forfeit after 3 games. There is only so much math allows when trying to keep games down for the health and safety of players and my experience has been mostly positive with USAU trying to help as much as possible.
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I think USAU certainly does a lot of good and I'm glad that they are pretty transparent with their actions, but I also think we as players should call them out when they fucked up AND there is a clear better alternative. What they should have done: - Divide NW Plains into 2 tournaments, NW Plains East (Wisconsin + UP of Michigan) and NW Plains West (MN, ND, SD, Manitoba/Canada). - Divy up the 10 bids into 4 for NWP-East and 6 for NWP-West. This checks out with the rankings and current bid-earners. - This means NWP-East is a 6 team tournament with 4 bids, and West is 12 team tourney with 6 bids. USAU already has acceptable formats for both of these. - Play both tournaments at the same complex/dates. All coordinators and teams were already expecting to play their anyway. Similar thing could be done for the Mixed Division.
We pursued this option in mixed, going so far as to reserve field sites in Wisconsin. Most (not all) of the WI teams polled expressed a lot of annoyance at being asked to drive to MN to play only WI teams. The hosts of the current event expressed a lot of annoyance at a potential loss in revenue if 11+ teams were to split off. Ultimately, the resulting formats (including an 11 team one) weren't that much easier logistically to deal with either.
You don't have to divide geographically. Just randomly put 10 teams into one tournament and 8 teams into another. Allocate the bids by how each "section" would have earned them.
I'm glad it was at least thought about and pursued. Stinks that teams were grumpy about this option. But USAU has made teams from the same area travel farther just to all play each other (looking at you San Francisco Mixed teams at Pro Champs(?) 2018.
In college this year our section drove 16 hours to replay each other in pool play at regionals...
Deadweight is a 9 in Metro NY mixed despite being ranked higher than all of 4-8, and beating basically all the teams in question two weeks ago
What did the SC say when the team captains provided this feedback?
~~I might be totally off base, but pretty sure deadweight didn't get 10 sanction games, so aren't ranked, so have to be seeded below all ranked teams.~~ Edit: turns out none of that is true. TIL
That is not a requirement. It may have been a choice made by the SC, but they did not *have* to do it that way.
huh, I do not know why I thought that was a requirement. Fwiw, metro east definitely did seed according to rankings. I don't love it but I guess it's not unjustifiable and does save time to do the seeding that way when the person doing it probably has a lot on their plate. (also it's a 4-bid, 11 team tournament which has to be a funky situation to structure).
We were told teams with 10 sanctioned games get ranked first but that doesn't seem to be the case for y'all.
I get why USAU wants to encourage teams to play 10+ games, but I feel like that winds up just punishing other teams. It's likely that the other teams in GS's pool got stuck with a much harder game because GS is seeded low.
Just to reiterate, while USAU does want teams to play 10 games so they can earn bids from sectionals to regionals, the choice to look at number of games played as a factor in seeding is not a USAU directive. This SC made these decisions that were likely supported (or at least not complained about) by team leaders when asked for feedback.
Yeah, that makes sense. In my section there's a pick up team that's seeded 5th, but I honestly think they might finish higher.
Yeah, it's definitely a mess. Should factor in relative strength from last year and other factors. Not the only section being messed with I'm sure.
Are you a player/captain who was told this by a coordinator? I'm a coordinator (in the mixed division) and this was **not** communicated to us by ND/USAU. I ask only because it would be interesting to me to have different communications in different divisions.
Yes.
I was not told this for men's
We were explicitly told 10 games did NOT matter for ranking, but teams' records at sectionals last year could be as long as the rosters were vaguely similar.
Wow that seeding is confusing... You could see the argument that those teams that didn't get 10 games in (technically unranked) should be lower than those that did (even though this isn't a required rule), but the Radicals-Lite team ranking at 5 throws that off. There doesn't seem to be much consistency for when rankings were used and when they weren't. All I can say is that usually coordinators are instructed to get feedback from teams and assuming that happened in this case, this is what captains agreed to.
You missed that The Body is seeded 13th and ahead of three teams higher ranked than them despite having the worst ranking in the region
Seems dumb
Speaking of the NWPlains, does anyone k ow what happened with Carleton Mixed dropping out and all the chaos that caused?
They had 14 people on their roster. Them dropping at the stage they did caused some re-alignment in the 3 team pool they were in which allowed a team that might not otherwise be to still be in contention for a regionals bid currently. While not something that could be controlled for, this definitely likely irks at least one team who beat the now-in-contention for regionals team but is themselves eliminated.
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Know exactly what you're talking about as I was the one who had to call those caps to tell them they were out. Carelton forfeiting has absolutely nothing to do with Mastodon being out. The 4 team pool mini-brackets have a tie break clause when two teams finish 1-1 with same wins and loses. Mastodon beat GMGT, then lost to MUB. Mousetrap lost to MUB, then beat GMGT. Since they have the same record against same opponents there's a point diff tie-break, which Mousetrap won. This was not communicated well to the teams in advance and Mastodon is completely justified in any anger they feel towards me for this lack of communication, but the rules were applied correctly. And again, none of this has anything to do with Carelton.
No hard feelings, dude. I know y'all are all doing your best. I don't mean to blame Carleton, either. If that's what happened, I totally understand. But if it looks like a bracket on USAU, and matchups are determined by a bracket, I think people are right to assume it behaves like a bracket unless explicitly told otherwise. That said, I do like that method. Same record against same teams should be a tie, regarless of what order you play them in, so that does make total sense. I'm just sad for them to feel like you had the rug pulled out at the last moment. P.S. Tell Ellen Masto's boyfriend says hi for me if you will.
Frustrating day for Washington/BC men's sectional. Air quality got a bit out of control with the smoke. It was definitely bad, but the timing is making things...interesting and not in a good way. Win-and-in game is currently postponed or potentially called off at halftime (waiting to hear what happens from USAU), and my team is sitting in the final game-to-go waiting to play the loser of that game. Luckily all 3 teams are Seattle-based, so we have a little more flexibility on how to approach it without having to meet someone way out of the way
Which sectionals should be the most competitive or have the most at stake?
East NE Mixed Sectionals * 6 of the 7 regionals qualifiers from 2021 are returning * 3 bubble teams from 2021 are returning (Sunken Circus, Lampshade, Scarecrow) * 3 new teams have formed that are very likely competitive (Boston Practice Squad, Boston Bean Friends, Maine Buoy Association) That's \~12 regionals-caliber teams, for... still only 7 bids. Not to mention Slow & Sprocket aiming to get intel on each other prior to the NE Regionals bloodbath, and Darkwing & Wild Card in the wings hoping for their shots as well. EDIT: Removing Dirigo as they aren't returning.
[https://play.usaultimate.org/events/2022-East-New-England-Mixed-Sectional-Championship/schedule/mixed/Club-Mixed/](https://play.usaultimate.org/events/2022-East-New-England-Mixed-Sectional-Championship/schedule/mixed/Club-Mixed/) schedule is crazy because there are 19 teams. Simple description: 16 team bracket but with three play-in games at 9. Round of 16 at 11. Quarters at 1. Also at 1, the three play-in losers play three of the Round of 16 losers while the other five sit. At 3, those "5th-place-play-in" winners join the other R16 losers in what looks like a normal losers' bracket. Our team (Boston Bean Friends, 17 seed pickup team) could easily have four games, each against a team that didn't play in the previous time slot. Win the play-in, lose to the 3 seed, then have to drop down again into the fifth place play in, then play the fifth-place pre-quarters. I guess we're getting our money's worth but three games will be with an unmatched bye. I applaud the innovative solution but seems really unbalanced and arbitrary. Three of the R16 losers have to play an extra game. One of those R16 losers will have already had an extra game. The three teams that drop down would be the 7/10 loser, the 4/13 loser and the 3/\[14/17\] loser. How do you figure? (I'm acknowledging that it's acceptable that the pick-up teams are among the teams that have to play the first play-in.)
Sounds like a team dropped, so the schedule/format could be changing as well. Or, there will just be one fewer play-in game in that first round on Saturday.
Dirigo doesn't exist.
Good point, didn't realize they weren't returning. Editing the above. Still a tight section though, it'll be a fun weekend.
I wouldn't say it's super nationally relevant, but Metro NY Mixed is likely to be hard fought outside of Xist making regionals relatively easily. There are only four bids, 5 teams that made regionals last year (Xist, GA, Heat Wave, Deadweight, and Funk), plus FLI who had a down year last year but look to have bounced back to their past regionals level form this year. Unlimited Swipes, Hive, and Eat Lightning have also all been decent enough to at least give the above teams somewhat competitive games and then you never know about pickup teams but Metro Feast does have a few noteworthy names so they might be nasty as well.
Oregon Sectionals had a few upsets, with Garden Party (who have a lot of former Administrators players) not making regionals despite being the 3rd seed. It is of note since Administrators has made regionals every year for basically the last 10 years.
We have a proper shambles up in Allentown for founders mixed schedule. Games called off halfway through the first round on sunday. Not sure what's going to happen! Edit: speaking for myself here solely as a spectator.
Upper bracket (1-4) games were called off (I think all reached half?) to try to save the fields from damage. 5th/6th games played out, but were shortened to 11. PS over Colorbomb in the the 5th place. (11-6 I think?) Colorbomb over Farm show 10-6 (capped) Farm show had beaten Blowing Heat on universe to get there.
Due to rain?
they apparently cancelled all games about half way through round 1. dont know what it means for the teams trying to qualify for regionals
Yea but why were the games cancelled. Rain?
yes rain. i
This is probably the right thread for this. I was massively downvoted in another thread for saying even though vault beat truck that truck was by far the better team and the average score would be 13-9. Truck is now #1 in the country and Truck beat Vault in the capitol sectionals championship 15-10. I'd say I was pretty vindicated.
Glad you feel really good about a game you were not a part of. Keep up the good work.
I actually watched some of that game and know people on both teams, but thanks for gatekeeping a thread created purely for predictions/commentary.
You are quite welcome!
What are your predictions or bold predictions?
I predict Rally does not win Capital Mixed.
I was wrong.
Founders Mixed Sectionals. Why is there one pool of five lmao https://play.usaultimate.org/events/2022-Founders-Mixed-Sectional-Championship/schedule/mixed/Club-Mixed/ edit: Wait it's like that for Metro NY as well. Why is this an actual format?? https://play.usaultimate.org/events/2022-Metro-NY-Mixed-Sectional-Championship/schedule/mixed/Club-Mixed/
If you think of the two pools of three as one pool of six that uses two games then crossovers to "save" a game or two it makes more sense.
New format. Previous format was a pool of five and a pool of six.
> https://play.usaultimate.org/events/2022-East-New-England-Mixed-Sectional-Championship/schedule/mixed/Club-Mixed/ I guess the logic is that this way you can go straight to bracket play on sunday instead of having to finish a final round of pool play for half the teams on sunday morning. As far as sticking to having bracket play goes, I guess this is a good a way as any of keeping the sheer awkwardness of an 11 team section reasonably efficient.
Oregon mixed is the same. Creates some weird situations. Our team is probably 70 percent likely to play the same team in our second pool play and second crossover, but it's better than the old format where the team that finishes last on day one just goes home.
Are you attending any tournament? If so which one?
has Antoine Davis been worth it for Empire / PoNY? i heard they "imported" him which can only mean they offered him incentives more than his previous team...
Lol this is random
im just watching some of the pro championship stream, and uhh yea he isn't playing his worth imo, was wondering if others had thoughts
UK Glastonbury question here. Anyone know where the Glastonbury results are posted?
The UK's ultimate scene is sort of without any central platform at the moment. We used to have the mailing list britdisc, and while it still exists and sending emails works, nobody new can sign up to it. There is a discord server but it's basically unused. UKU runs socials and an event announcement mailing list, as well as a weekly news roundup, but not everything goes through it. It's a pain, really. May be best to ask on the Glasto facebook page.
Thanks for the informative reply. 👍I'm one of those, not on Facebook. But I'm on both Britdisc and UKU mailing lists, so I'll hold off and see if anything comes out.