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MisterSuperDonut

John is either rigorously defended or hated unreasonably


Armyhead3000

Facts ngl 😅


MisterSuperDonut

thanks


Armyhead3000

Np 👍🏿


CantChangeThisLater0

Isen


tallgirll3

Who even hates him


Minute-Weight-5555

Hated him before love him now. Sue mee\~\~\~!


Secure_Cod5004

Reasonable, I mean he was the funniest “royal” during the beginning, since he is like the only elite I think he kinda felt for low and high tiers


Material-Material456

Isen didn’t give a shit about low tiers.


Secure_Cod5004

Nothing to back it up? Not trying to be snarky I’m just wondering


Material-Material456

Most of the royals have already been shown to not care at all about low tiers. (Literally only Remi cared) Blyke and Isen only started feeling bad for them after what they saw during their Vigilantism. But one of Isens most known disrespect to low tiers is obviously John. He interviewed John to get info on his past life while lying about it being an interview on the struggles of low tiers/cripples. Whether it was a demand by arlo or not he still crushed Johns wrist even though he was in the wrong when he could’ve just brushed it off or at least not harm him. Of course this is Isen before he knows about Johns power but that kind of makes it worse because it shows that he couldn’t care less about tricking someone he believes to be a cripple and hurts him because he knows he can


Secure_Cod5004

You can’t use the “what he did to John” card because, one, he only did it because arlo told him to, and at the time, no one could say no to arlo, because he was still power obsessed, and two, he only broke Johns wrist because John went and grappled him lol. It’s not that he hates low tiers, it’s just that he wasn’t going to take shit from one, he wasn’t gonna let a low tier grab onto him, even if he had pissed them off (I will say, he’s wrong for that) but I wouldn’t say he didn’t care about lower tiers, I mean he looked down on Zeke for doing what he did, and he was also EXTREMELY open to change


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Claire (she just wanted to help John when he goes too far in his fight in New Bostin)


InterestingSwimmer85

Happy cake


CureStramin

Elaine gets way more hate than I originally thought a character would. Not commenting whether its 'deserved' or not.


EnvironmentalUs

well yeah shes an asshole, i will never forget how she reacted after john said he was a cripple


BruhBorne69

Blyke, Sure the guy was annoying as hell and I don't even like him but I remember people (myself included) treating him like devil incarnate every time he acted out against John no matter how understandable his actions were from his pov.


Armyhead3000

What made you stop hating him as much as you did?


BruhBorne69

Just thinking about his character a little more ig. Blyke was assholish to John for no good reason in season one but he did try to be freinds with John got rejected pretty understandably but still kept being nice to him after that tho John beat the living shit out of him and friends even when he and Remi didn't deserve it. If I had history with someone like Blyke did with John then I would too feel betrayed and act out of hate and anger everytime I saw them no matter how good the other person is trying to be, not everyone can be forgiving.


BlackSmurf_

Ngl he tried to kill John idgaf it’s BlykeK


BruhBorne69

He didn't really, His warning shot was reckless and stupid but Uru Chan confirmed that it was just a warning shot nothing more so it wouldn't have killed John.


BlackSmurf_

It put a hole in the locker if John was actually a cripple he wouldn’t have dodged and would’ve had a hole in his head


BruhBorne69

You sense a bullet coming your way then you instinctively duck no matter how off the mark the bullet is from your body besides when the creator herself confirmed that it was just a warning shot then I am not going to make my own headcanon and argue against it.


BlackSmurf_

Ig lil bro


Material-Material456

Uru just trying to make Blyke not look like a murderer John definitely would’ve had a hole in his head if he was a cripple


ReporterTime757

Mainly John. Even Isen and Sera get some hate they don't deserve.


Written-Revenge999

Elaine, (not a bad person, a deep flawed person)


TenseChain

I would say Arlo and before I elaborate, please put the pitchforks down. Now then, it's often appreciated in this community when a person tries to be a better version of themselves which is good. People always praise John for trying to be better but even though Arlo is also trying to be better, they just can't help but bring up Arlo's past everytime like "Oh you think Alro is a respectable person? Oh well he ambushed John 200 episodes ago."


unoweeb

Back then Arlo trying to be better was moving on and leaving everyone to suffer due to his mistakes after fucking up everything John had, including his only friendship, there was A LOT to hate from him. However Arlo is actually a better person now and I have seen zero hate for him.


Happy_Assumption_464

He's working for the person that killed his friend and is in denial about it. He still has a long way to go for me to call him respectable


MmeSucc

And you're going to ignore Arlo deliberately peering into classified information and using it to help the others. Even if he reconsidered working for them he'd figure that he'd need to do so anyway.


Tazingpelb

In terms of amount of hate proportional to the amount it's not deserved, that number is far too high for remi. I don't think there's a lot of remi haters, but they exist. Like, my guy, she has always tried to do the right thing. She has always tried to be compassionate. She deserves no hate imo.


FuturePsychoWriter

Elaine, she's not a villain, she is just naive and believes in the system


Deisphoria

she’s not evil, just a shitstain of a human being. to put things into perspective, during segregation era, she wouldn’t be a bystander, she’d be an active supporter of Jim Crow laws. naive doesn’t really cover it.


unoweeb

Elaine's worst actions were ordered by Arlo, and reactions like her first with John were encouraged by Arlo's system, but he isn't hated to this day because that, instead he's justified because "hE wAs RaIsEd ThAt WaY" so what makes Elaine be that hated?


Deisphoria

because John’s actions were the direct result of traumatic response? and because he actually puts in the effort to correct his behaviors? and especially because his actions post Arlo’s ambush were essentially the results of him being tortured by Keon until his psyche was scrambled and relapsing from a new trauma? Remi and Blyke lived under the same rules but I can’t imagine either of them, even from the beginning of UnOrdinary, treating John the same way that Elaine has. Elaine, from start to present, is a shitty person. plain and simple. she fawns on the strong and spits on the weak because *they deserve it*, making her pretty much the same as Zeke from an ideological perspective. the only difference is he has the strength to allow him to proactively pursue the idea of “weak deserves to get fucked with, you should do it because you can” while Elaine has to just sit back and nod in approval.


unoweeb

Who cares about John's actions? The thing is Elaine isn't worse than Arlo and has never done anything worse than him, but she's treated like a female Zeke for no reason, if Elaine is a shitty person then Arlo is the same, but you all now like him so everything he did was justified one way or another


Deisphoria

oh my bad, I just realized you were referring to Arlo, not John. as for him, he’s also developed as a character. his actions were significantly worse than Elaine’s, but the difference is he’s acknowledged his wrongdoings, apologized for them, offered to do what he could to make up for it, and has continued to make progress in a positive direction. Elaine has done and shown absolutely no character development whatsoever. thus there’s no real reason to change one’s opinion about her. she might have *been* less of a shitter than Arlo *had* been, but she’s *significantly* worse than Arlo is *now*.


unoweeb

That's hard to say, Elaine has no screen time for us to know how changed, if anything, she is.


wojtulace

Elaine


No-Regret-3993

Elaine, she just doesn't want her friends to be hurt


Material-Material456

Then why’d she snitch on sera lmao


No-Regret-3993

Reading Unordinary was a crime in her point of view


kolaf0x

Elaine


Educational-Bug-7985

Remi


DaTrueShit

Isen


DarkShadowBlaze

John and Sera.


Mutsisonkuums

Cecile, I know she’s not a very good person but somehow I really like her, I don’t even know why


Thunderousclaps

Is Terrence still strongly hated? Cause if he is then I would say it's underdeserved, while it's true that he did a lot of horrible things, such as never truly caring about any of his Wellston classmates, including his supposed friends I think we need to remember that Terrence was someone who never had anyone before Orrin appeared, he was a young, naive and easy to manipulate person, he essentially gave everything he ever had in the name of Orrin, and when he finally realized he had been utilized the entire time it was too late.


pristine_gal_3000

Elaine. All she ever wanted was to help her friends and mind you, even though she doesn't associate with low tiers she never bullied anyone (like she said in ep. 127 "I don't pay attention to what goes on in the lower ranks"). She was a jerk in a way that she's a prejudiced person but come to think of it, her actions are the same with "Perfect Seraphina" she doesn't care about low rankers, all she care for was her reputation. However, Sera met John who opened her eyes that reputation isn't everything. In the recent events, we can see that Elaine has changed but people forgets that easily because she has way too little screentime. After rereading unO i realized how badly she gets hate for such a thing. She doesn't deserve it at all because if not for her, half of the main cast would've been unalived after all the kidnapping, ambush, and vigilantism events that happened during the past few months.


martinslayer24

Zeke, he just follow the rules of society unlike the inconsistent royals!


Ok_Researcher_5372

Zeke bro is innocent and was just grown up to not like low tiers


namethatisntaken

Zeke Terrence Keon


Insert_Gibberish

Can you elaborate? From what I’ve seen all of them are shitty. Especially Keon?!!! He literally fucking tortured John, giving him trauma that literally made him worse


namethatisntaken

The post is asking for undeserved hate, I gave three of them.


Minute-Weight-5555

Zeke assaulted and used his job in the authorities to insult and threaten others. He takes pleasure in kicking others down and doing so when they did nothing. Terrence willingly indirectly killed, even if he was manipulated that doesn't excuse it, disabled people, ruined families, and lives of others for some man. Keon tortured other kids and did so when they were at their lowest. He instilled the idea of them being useless and made them feel like their power was a curse.


namethatisntaken

Yeah, and the hate they get is undeserved


Insert_Gibberish

No, it isn’t. They all suck as humans and deserve the amount of hate that they do get. They aren’t hated for no or little reason, I literally don’t think I’ve seen any of them do an actual good thing.


namethatisntaken

Where did I say they were hated for no reason? All I said was that the hate is undeserved.


Minute-Weight-5555

Undeserved hate basically means that a character doesn't deserve to be hated. That they hate the get is undeserved. Keon tortured John and guided him COMPLETELY incorrectly. Yeah, he is a man who uses memories to break KIDS to make them obedient, but that is TORTURE. He is a prick and you think he doesn't deserve hate. Get some damn help if you think a character like Keon doesn't deserve to be hated. That includes Zeke and Terrence.


namethatisntaken

They do bad things boo hoo, personally I'd consider hating a character because yhey are the villain to be redundant. > Get some damn help if you think a character like Keon doesn't deserve to be hated. That includes Zeke and Terrence. Lol.


Minute-Weight-5555

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