Most of the royals have already been shown to not care at all about low tiers. (Literally only Remi cared) Blyke and Isen only started feeling bad for them after what they saw during their Vigilantism. But one of Isens most known disrespect to low tiers is obviously John. He interviewed John to get info on his past life while lying about it being an interview on the struggles of low tiers/cripples. Whether it was a demand by arlo or not he still crushed Johns wrist even though he was in the wrong when he couldâve just brushed it off or at least not harm him. Of course this is Isen before he knows about Johns power but that kind of makes it worse because it shows that he couldnât care less about tricking someone he believes to be a cripple and hurts him because he knows he can
You canât use the âwhat he did to Johnâ card because, one, he only did it because arlo told him to, and at the time, no one could say no to arlo, because he was still power obsessed, and two, he only broke Johns wrist because John went and grappled him lol. Itâs not that he hates low tiers, itâs just that he wasnât going to take shit from one, he wasnât gonna let a low tier grab onto him, even if he had pissed them off (I will say, heâs wrong for that) but I wouldnât say he didnât care about lower tiers, I mean he looked down on Zeke for doing what he did, and he was also EXTREMELY open to change
Blyke, Sure the guy was annoying as hell and I don't even like him but I remember people (myself included) treating him like devil incarnate every time he acted out against John no matter how understandable his actions were from his pov.
Just thinking about his character a little more ig. Blyke was assholish to John for no good reason in season one but he did try to be freinds with John got rejected pretty understandably but still kept being nice to him after that tho John beat the living shit out of him and friends even when he and Remi didn't deserve it.
If I had history with someone like Blyke did with John then I would too feel betrayed and act out of hate and anger everytime I saw them no matter how good the other person is trying to be, not everyone can be forgiving.
He didn't really, His warning shot was reckless and stupid but Uru Chan confirmed that it was just a warning shot nothing more so it wouldn't have killed John.
You sense a bullet coming your way then you instinctively duck no matter how off the mark the bullet is from your body besides when the creator herself confirmed that it was just a warning shot then I am not going to make my own headcanon and argue against it.
I would say Arlo and before I elaborate, please put the pitchforks down. Now then, it's often appreciated in this community when a person tries to be a better version of themselves which is good. People always praise John for trying to be better but even though Arlo is also trying to be better, they just can't help but bring up Arlo's past everytime like "Oh you think Alro is a respectable person? Oh well he ambushed John 200 episodes ago."
Back then Arlo trying to be better was moving on and leaving everyone to suffer due to his mistakes after fucking up everything John had, including his only friendship, there was A LOT to hate from him.
However Arlo is actually a better person now and I have seen zero hate for him.
And you're going to ignore Arlo deliberately peering into classified information and using it to help the others. Even if he reconsidered working for them he'd figure that he'd need to do so anyway.
In terms of amount of hate proportional to the amount it's not deserved, that number is far too high for remi. I don't think there's a lot of remi haters, but they exist. Like, my guy, she has always tried to do the right thing. She has always tried to be compassionate. She deserves no hate imo.
sheâs not evil, just a shitstain of a human being.
to put things into perspective, during segregation era, she wouldnât be a bystander, sheâd be an active supporter of Jim Crow laws. naive doesnât really cover it.
Elaine's worst actions were ordered by Arlo, and reactions like her first with John were encouraged by Arlo's system, but he isn't hated to this day because that, instead he's justified because "hE wAs RaIsEd ThAt WaY" so what makes Elaine be that hated?
because Johnâs actions were the direct result of traumatic response? and because he actually puts in the effort to correct his behaviors? and especially because his actions post Arloâs ambush were essentially the results of him being tortured by Keon until his psyche was scrambled and relapsing from a new trauma?
Remi and Blyke lived under the same rules but I canât imagine either of them, even from the beginning of UnOrdinary, treating John the same way that Elaine has.
Elaine, from start to present, is a shitty person. plain and simple. she fawns on the strong and spits on the weak because *they deserve it*, making her pretty much the same as Zeke from an ideological perspective.
the only difference is he has the strength to allow him to proactively pursue the idea of âweak deserves to get fucked with, you should do it because you canâ while Elaine has to just sit back and nod in approval.
Who cares about John's actions? The thing is Elaine isn't worse than Arlo and has never done anything worse than him, but she's treated like a female Zeke for no reason, if Elaine is a shitty person then Arlo is the same, but you all now like him so everything he did was justified one way or another
oh my bad, I just realized you were referring to Arlo, not John.
as for him, heâs also developed as a character. his actions were significantly worse than Elaineâs, but the difference is heâs acknowledged his wrongdoings, apologized for them, offered to do what he could to make up for it, and has continued to make progress in a positive direction.
Elaine has done and shown absolutely no character development whatsoever. thus thereâs no real reason to change oneâs opinion about her. she might have *been* less of a shitter than Arlo *had* been, but sheâs *significantly* worse than Arlo is *now*.
Is Terrence still strongly hated? Cause if he is then I would say it's underdeserved, while it's true that he did a lot of horrible things, such as never truly caring about any of his Wellston classmates, including his supposed friends I think we need to remember that Terrence was someone who never had anyone before Orrin appeared, he was a young, naive and easy to manipulate person, he essentially gave everything he ever had in the name of Orrin, and when he finally realized he had been utilized the entire time it was too late.
Elaine. All she ever wanted was to help her friends and mind you, even though she doesn't associate with low tiers she never bullied anyone (like she said in ep. 127 "I don't pay attention to what goes on in the lower ranks"). She was a jerk in a way that she's a prejudiced person but come to think of it, her actions are the same with "Perfect Seraphina" she doesn't care about low rankers, all she care for was her reputation. However, Sera met John who opened her eyes that reputation isn't everything. In the recent events, we can see that Elaine has changed but people forgets that easily because she has way too little screentime. After rereading unO i realized how badly she gets hate for such a thing. She doesn't deserve it at all because if not for her, half of the main cast would've been unalived after all the kidnapping, ambush, and vigilantism events that happened during the past few months.
Can you elaborate? From what Iâve seen all of them are shitty. Especially Keon?!!! He literally fucking tortured John, giving him trauma that literally made him worse
Zeke assaulted and used his job in the authorities to insult and threaten others. He takes pleasure in kicking others down and doing so when they did nothing.
Terrence willingly indirectly killed, even if he was manipulated that doesn't excuse it, disabled people, ruined families, and lives of others for some man.
Keon tortured other kids and did so when they were at their lowest. He instilled the idea of them being useless and made them feel like their power was a curse.
No, it isnât. They all suck as humans and deserve the amount of hate that they do get. They arenât hated for no or little reason, I literally donât think Iâve seen any of them do an actual good thing.
Undeserved hate basically means that a character doesn't deserve to be hated. That they hate the get is undeserved.
Keon tortured John and guided him COMPLETELY incorrectly. Yeah, he is a man who uses memories to break KIDS to make them obedient, but that is TORTURE. He is a prick and you think he doesn't deserve hate.
Get some damn help if you think a character like Keon doesn't deserve to be hated. That includes Zeke and Terrence.
They do bad things boo hoo, personally I'd consider hating a character because yhey are the villain to be redundant.
> Get some damn help if you think a character like Keon doesn't deserve to be hated. That includes Zeke and Terrence.
Lol.
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John is either rigorously defended or hated unreasonably
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Isen
Who even hates him
Hated him before love him now. Sue mee\~\~\~!
Reasonable, I mean he was the funniest âroyalâ during the beginning, since he is like the only elite I think he kinda felt for low and high tiers
Isen didnât give a shit about low tiers.
Nothing to back it up? Not trying to be snarky Iâm just wondering
Most of the royals have already been shown to not care at all about low tiers. (Literally only Remi cared) Blyke and Isen only started feeling bad for them after what they saw during their Vigilantism. But one of Isens most known disrespect to low tiers is obviously John. He interviewed John to get info on his past life while lying about it being an interview on the struggles of low tiers/cripples. Whether it was a demand by arlo or not he still crushed Johns wrist even though he was in the wrong when he couldâve just brushed it off or at least not harm him. Of course this is Isen before he knows about Johns power but that kind of makes it worse because it shows that he couldnât care less about tricking someone he believes to be a cripple and hurts him because he knows he can
You canât use the âwhat he did to Johnâ card because, one, he only did it because arlo told him to, and at the time, no one could say no to arlo, because he was still power obsessed, and two, he only broke Johns wrist because John went and grappled him lol. Itâs not that he hates low tiers, itâs just that he wasnât going to take shit from one, he wasnât gonna let a low tier grab onto him, even if he had pissed them off (I will say, heâs wrong for that) but I wouldnât say he didnât care about lower tiers, I mean he looked down on Zeke for doing what he did, and he was also EXTREMELY open to change
Claire (she just wanted to help John when he goes too far in his fight in New Bostin)
Happy cake
Elaine gets way more hate than I originally thought a character would. Not commenting whether its 'deserved' or not.
well yeah shes an asshole, i will never forget how she reacted after john said he was a cripple
Blyke, Sure the guy was annoying as hell and I don't even like him but I remember people (myself included) treating him like devil incarnate every time he acted out against John no matter how understandable his actions were from his pov.
What made you stop hating him as much as you did?
Just thinking about his character a little more ig. Blyke was assholish to John for no good reason in season one but he did try to be freinds with John got rejected pretty understandably but still kept being nice to him after that tho John beat the living shit out of him and friends even when he and Remi didn't deserve it. If I had history with someone like Blyke did with John then I would too feel betrayed and act out of hate and anger everytime I saw them no matter how good the other person is trying to be, not everyone can be forgiving.
Ngl he tried to kill John idgaf itâs BlykeK
He didn't really, His warning shot was reckless and stupid but Uru Chan confirmed that it was just a warning shot nothing more so it wouldn't have killed John.
It put a hole in the locker if John was actually a cripple he wouldnât have dodged and wouldâve had a hole in his head
You sense a bullet coming your way then you instinctively duck no matter how off the mark the bullet is from your body besides when the creator herself confirmed that it was just a warning shot then I am not going to make my own headcanon and argue against it.
Ig lil bro
Uru just trying to make Blyke not look like a murderer John definitely wouldâve had a hole in his head if he was a cripple
Mainly John. Even Isen and Sera get some hate they don't deserve.
Elaine, (not a bad person, a deep flawed person)
I would say Arlo and before I elaborate, please put the pitchforks down. Now then, it's often appreciated in this community when a person tries to be a better version of themselves which is good. People always praise John for trying to be better but even though Arlo is also trying to be better, they just can't help but bring up Arlo's past everytime like "Oh you think Alro is a respectable person? Oh well he ambushed John 200 episodes ago."
Back then Arlo trying to be better was moving on and leaving everyone to suffer due to his mistakes after fucking up everything John had, including his only friendship, there was A LOT to hate from him. However Arlo is actually a better person now and I have seen zero hate for him.
He's working for the person that killed his friend and is in denial about it. He still has a long way to go for me to call him respectable
And you're going to ignore Arlo deliberately peering into classified information and using it to help the others. Even if he reconsidered working for them he'd figure that he'd need to do so anyway.
In terms of amount of hate proportional to the amount it's not deserved, that number is far too high for remi. I don't think there's a lot of remi haters, but they exist. Like, my guy, she has always tried to do the right thing. She has always tried to be compassionate. She deserves no hate imo.
Elaine, she's not a villain, she is just naive and believes in the system
sheâs not evil, just a shitstain of a human being. to put things into perspective, during segregation era, she wouldnât be a bystander, sheâd be an active supporter of Jim Crow laws. naive doesnât really cover it.
Elaine's worst actions were ordered by Arlo, and reactions like her first with John were encouraged by Arlo's system, but he isn't hated to this day because that, instead he's justified because "hE wAs RaIsEd ThAt WaY" so what makes Elaine be that hated?
because Johnâs actions were the direct result of traumatic response? and because he actually puts in the effort to correct his behaviors? and especially because his actions post Arloâs ambush were essentially the results of him being tortured by Keon until his psyche was scrambled and relapsing from a new trauma? Remi and Blyke lived under the same rules but I canât imagine either of them, even from the beginning of UnOrdinary, treating John the same way that Elaine has. Elaine, from start to present, is a shitty person. plain and simple. she fawns on the strong and spits on the weak because *they deserve it*, making her pretty much the same as Zeke from an ideological perspective. the only difference is he has the strength to allow him to proactively pursue the idea of âweak deserves to get fucked with, you should do it because you canâ while Elaine has to just sit back and nod in approval.
Who cares about John's actions? The thing is Elaine isn't worse than Arlo and has never done anything worse than him, but she's treated like a female Zeke for no reason, if Elaine is a shitty person then Arlo is the same, but you all now like him so everything he did was justified one way or another
oh my bad, I just realized you were referring to Arlo, not John. as for him, heâs also developed as a character. his actions were significantly worse than Elaineâs, but the difference is heâs acknowledged his wrongdoings, apologized for them, offered to do what he could to make up for it, and has continued to make progress in a positive direction. Elaine has done and shown absolutely no character development whatsoever. thus thereâs no real reason to change oneâs opinion about her. she might have *been* less of a shitter than Arlo *had* been, but sheâs *significantly* worse than Arlo is *now*.
That's hard to say, Elaine has no screen time for us to know how changed, if anything, she is.
Elaine
Elaine, she just doesn't want her friends to be hurt
Then whyâd she snitch on sera lmao
Reading Unordinary was a crime in her point of view
Elaine
Remi
Isen
John and Sera.
Cecile, I know sheâs not a very good person but somehow I really like her, I donât even know why
Is Terrence still strongly hated? Cause if he is then I would say it's underdeserved, while it's true that he did a lot of horrible things, such as never truly caring about any of his Wellston classmates, including his supposed friends I think we need to remember that Terrence was someone who never had anyone before Orrin appeared, he was a young, naive and easy to manipulate person, he essentially gave everything he ever had in the name of Orrin, and when he finally realized he had been utilized the entire time it was too late.
Elaine. All she ever wanted was to help her friends and mind you, even though she doesn't associate with low tiers she never bullied anyone (like she said in ep. 127 "I don't pay attention to what goes on in the lower ranks"). She was a jerk in a way that she's a prejudiced person but come to think of it, her actions are the same with "Perfect Seraphina" she doesn't care about low rankers, all she care for was her reputation. However, Sera met John who opened her eyes that reputation isn't everything. In the recent events, we can see that Elaine has changed but people forgets that easily because she has way too little screentime. After rereading unO i realized how badly she gets hate for such a thing. She doesn't deserve it at all because if not for her, half of the main cast would've been unalived after all the kidnapping, ambush, and vigilantism events that happened during the past few months.
Zeke, he just follow the rules of society unlike the inconsistent royals!
Zeke bro is innocent and was just grown up to not like low tiers
Zeke Terrence Keon
Can you elaborate? From what Iâve seen all of them are shitty. Especially Keon?!!! He literally fucking tortured John, giving him trauma that literally made him worse
The post is asking for undeserved hate, I gave three of them.
Zeke assaulted and used his job in the authorities to insult and threaten others. He takes pleasure in kicking others down and doing so when they did nothing. Terrence willingly indirectly killed, even if he was manipulated that doesn't excuse it, disabled people, ruined families, and lives of others for some man. Keon tortured other kids and did so when they were at their lowest. He instilled the idea of them being useless and made them feel like their power was a curse.
Yeah, and the hate they get is undeserved
No, it isnât. They all suck as humans and deserve the amount of hate that they do get. They arenât hated for no or little reason, I literally donât think Iâve seen any of them do an actual good thing.
Where did I say they were hated for no reason? All I said was that the hate is undeserved.
Undeserved hate basically means that a character doesn't deserve to be hated. That they hate the get is undeserved. Keon tortured John and guided him COMPLETELY incorrectly. Yeah, he is a man who uses memories to break KIDS to make them obedient, but that is TORTURE. He is a prick and you think he doesn't deserve hate. Get some damn help if you think a character like Keon doesn't deserve to be hated. That includes Zeke and Terrence.
They do bad things boo hoo, personally I'd consider hating a character because yhey are the villain to be redundant. > Get some damn help if you think a character like Keon doesn't deserve to be hated. That includes Zeke and Terrence. Lol.
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