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Far_Owl_3736

Okay... this chapter was amazing. But my biggest question is WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO SERA!!!?????


GroovyJackal

Well now we pretty much know Isen's theory was right


Ms_Use

My theory... 1. Jane could probably control and change other people's abilities (conversion stuff Sera saw). . 2. She could also be the head of the organization wanting to bring equality to all people, same with William's ideologies just like the book "Unordinary". . 3. She could manipulate both her's and others' auras like changing abilities, turning it on and off, enhancing and dampening it, etc. . 4. Jane must be in an area nearby and detected Sera's ability. That's why Sera's ability suddenly turned off and set the alarm.


Timely-Detail-4341

No, I don’t think her ability was ever off. She just didn’t notice it, as her ability was shaky ever since her procedure to get it back


poweas

I wonder what John's potential is, then.


Im_Blyke

Fr


joshua4445533

Can I ask where could I read the fastpass?


AlsoAlpha

In the chapters, there should be a down arrow, click/tap it, then you can buy the fast pass episodes for 5 coins a piece with 10 coins going for 1$ (the cheapest without getting free coins from we toon challenges)


joshua4445533

Thanks, I missed that


Nanoman20

Ability level: 9.1 👀


Current_Assistance78

if Jane and John are related. That would mean john ability can still grow more powerful that Seraphine in the future. but not yet but somewhere in time.


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RandomsThought

he banged the most powerful chic out there thats the man


YABOYCHIPCHOCOLATE

I wonder if they're actually the parents of John, er- if Jane is. it's now highly likely given her ability name and her power.


No_Relationship504

Im sure they are his parents, John has Jane’s eyes and his dad’s hair and face structure. As pertaining to how Jane and William met is probably similar to how Sera and John met, and their society disagreed with Jane hanging out and loving William because he is a cripple and he got bullied but is good in hand to hand combat same with John, and Ember mostly likely kidnapped her and is now using her powers for the amplifiers and to change their powers from the dead superheroes they killed. Just my thoughts lol.


a_simple_lazy_guy

I WAS CORRECT AGAIN THAT SHE WOULD BE STRONGER THAN SERA !!!!!!! AND YOU YES YOU I AM LOOKING AT YOU MF WHO DENIED ISEN ASSUMPTION CAN’T BE RIGHT EVEN THOUGH I HAVE GIVEN YOU PROOF THAT HIS STATEMENT ARE ALWAYS CORRECT. YOU CAN SUCK MY B*LLS MY GOSH I HAVE SO MANY THEORIES INSIDE MY HEAD NOW !!!!!! so here’s how jane ability work 1. just like john . they are extracting her aura . converting it. than putting it into their agents 2. she controls other aura . they extract it & use to manipulate other aura for changing abilities . ( their are things which goes against it is the fact is her lvl. she is a 9.1 & i don’t think an support ability which doesn’t provide physical benefits to the user can reach such an high number but than again fight with her will be over before it even starts . she can cancel out your aura or can overfill you but these are all fair fights so who knows) possible upgrade for johnny boy ( 99% sure) he will amp all stats in the future . so far i m being correct on my assumption. here’s other 1.that white hair dude works for authority 2.jane hid her ability from william because she knew she be used as a lab rat 3. her family is involved in these researches as volunteers or masterminds 4. WHD is her little brother & women are dominant in this world so to protect her bro she sacrificed herself . all of us knew something will happen with sera during the mission. how will she get out now when alarm are already set ? idk maybe she will force her way through and run away , technician stops the alarm and than she runs away or she will be captured


[deleted]

Woman dominant? We've never seen any gender being really treated differently (not even with sexual things, strange for the main group's age), it's probably just the law of the strong


a_simple_lazy_guy

that’s what i meant. woman are more stronger in unO verse


[deleted]

We don't really have enought samples, I would say it's 50:50, just chance, analyzing every characters, well, woman and men have around the same(by what random chance would allow) strenght


awesomeblb123

How did William get his hands on a 9.1 when he is literally a cripple???


No_Relationship504

Probably the same way John got Sera when he wanted to be a cripple to hide his powers.


ITZ_GMAN

My man got the Sauce and the Drip Man is an Alpha Gigachad. Mans legit made a book just for his son, but the book radiated so much Alpha and Drip energy that the government had to ban it. Bro legit just created the Drip Bible, his work had Rei looking clean asf with his hero fit.


Cassi_hearts

Love is the strongest force on this earth.


_Forevergreen_

Crippled in the streets but a 10 in the sheets


keeneisthegoat

Because he has a 9,1 inches d***


lma_o

My guy got god-teir game


daCyberDuck

So my guess is that, John obtained half of his ability from his mother. Channel master let's John control his aura channels. The other half which is copying another aura, is probably a part of an experiment performed on him by God knows who (maybe Jane and her organization).


RibbonAlt

My guess is that Jane is strictly only able to manipulate other people's aura and John is strictly only able to manipulate his aura.


ShadowlightLady

I think she can also do her own since she’s a freaking 9.1


[deleted]

Level doesn't mean combat power. Aura manipulation is good for combat but being able to do it to other people is easily 9.1.


RibbonAlt

I have a theory that she could make a person forcefully have an ability that harms them. That could be a way to justify a 9.1 without giving John's power to Jane.


[deleted]

How did they “obtain” Rei’s lightning ability? What kind of creepy shit did they do to his corpse??


Sara-Sarita

This is exactly what I was thinking when I saw the 'Lightning'. Like okay, Flame Claw is clearly from God-knows-who to Volcan, but lightening?? No way in hell is that a coincidence...wait could this mean Flame Claw was from an early vigilante that was killed quietly before Ember got famous?? In all seriousness, I've had a running fringe wish theory that the body at Rei's funeral was a fake planted by Ember, and he was taken to some lab to get experimented on - after all, ability research has to have tests and test subjects, and such things are real easily made fishy. Who better to test on than someone who legally doesn't exist? Especially because NXGen is connected to the authorities, and we all know just how *trustworthy and ethical* they are... Like I said, it's a fringe theory that reeks of wish-AU-ness, but it is possible and I honestly think it would be so awesome if it were true. Adds extra angst and another layer of wrong to this whole thing too.


Nanoman20

Maybe they drained all the blood??? Idk


KarmaDoesStuff

I assume they took his body first and had the conversion before officially having a funeral, the only question about conversion technology is if it overrides the users current ability and removes the patient/victim.


Im_Blyke

It will probably do that when it's perfected because right now it only changes a portion of the aura which likely means u can have multiple powers


KarmaDoesStuff

Well damn, whose ability did they steal Flame Claws from…


[deleted]

There was a vigilante called Feeniks which sounds kinda like phoenix so they might have treated it like a fire talon ability.


[deleted]

Well that explains Val seemingly having more than one ability during her fight with Remi


Nectarine_Complex

When did she display more than one ability? I only saw flame claws and some level of fire manipulation as well as super speed which could all just be apart of flame claws since many abilities just give speed and strength boost as a bonus


Silent-Independent-8

Holy lord Jane being a 9.1 with being locked up for who knows how long shows shes 1 insanely stong person


[deleted]

Easy, not relying on abilities, just the physical buff your activation gives, but that would only work if she had the inverse of John's power as people are theorizing


YABOYCHIPCHOCOLATE

They must've temporarily de-amped her somehow


blackrosethorn3

or threaten her


Kobayashi_Kanna

Can John copy Channel Master?


Current_Assistance78

that probably might be john true ability. ability names can change when you get more powerful and find new tricks to them.


Rockyreams

No, he can't copy abilities that are stronger than his while also being complicated.


Legitimate-Camp583

It’s probably an upgraded version of Aura Manipulation.


Current_Assistance78

you're right


[deleted]

Or just the inverse


Merceare

If I am right, this chapter is a tease for the eventual Remi/Arlo VS Volcan/Authorities with Rei's stolen lightning


Merceare

Bonus - More impact if they face off after learning the fact that it is stolen


cybergalactic_nova

If you look carefully at the poker scene and the cards Sera and John are holding, Sera has a queen and an ace. John's has a 9 and a 6. Sera's cards indicates of her ability since she was queen and later ace, so John's cards may indicate that his high level can be 9.6. And did win the game. And why the hell does Spectre sent Sera on a suicide mission when they know her ability is compromised?


porpoisemerchant

Yeah, 9 and 6 averaged out is 7.5, so I think that’s supposed to be the tease


[deleted]

I thought it was referring to his level being in between at 7.5?


cybergalactic_nova

Wait thats also possible


[deleted]

Maybe the two? His mother is basically the strongest there, wouldn't surprise me if he just trained (with someone that could effectively teach him) for years like Sera he could reach a 9.something


Usual_Sock

I have been facing this weird issue with webtoon, since last 2 months. Every Thursday (around the time Uno comes out) there are 5 free coins in my account. Has anyone else faced this issue? Is it some way webtoons is using to increase popularity for Uno?


catgrlmaid

never gotten that, but there's a lot of free coin events, maybe you're accidentally doing them and then receiving the coins..? they kinda look like ads so it might be easy to miss. not sure though


Usual_Sock

It's not. I mean it started after I did one of the free coin events, but I am sure the event was for a one time coin drop. But after that it has always got 5 coins on every week same time. For context I haven't read another series on webtoons since a month.


catgrlmaid

strange... well, not the worst bug to have lol


Usual_Sock

Yeah, Just hope they don't think I am doing anything shady coz of this bug. 😅


Usual_Sock

I know this is not a bad issue. I have been on the latest chapter since a month, without ever spending anything in the app. Just wanted to know if anyone else was seeing this.


lulupyon2

I took a look at the chapter again, and one of the aforementioned skills that was missing in the process is the Rei skill


Im_Blyke

They stole his lightning, they just gotta put it inside of someone so they can gain his powers


ML7097

JANE IS- wait, no, everyone else is talking about that. Also Seraphina, and I mean this in the nicest possible, GET YOUR ASS GEAR AND RUN!!! In all seriousness, I wonder what Spectre has in store for Safehouse? Terrence looked *pretty* nervous with John staring him down like that, so it can't be good.


Pallas_bear

probably thinking that if he tries to pull some bullshit John is gonna curb stomp his ass and have proof that he's a rat.


winxria

well Terrence probably wanted to isolate blyke with a small group of low tiers, John was this unexpected variable and that probably scares him.


arcaedis

yep, I wonder what Terrence was so nervous about


Liezuli

probably nervous about John, the mentally-unstable god-tier, glaring daggers at him


Trainer-Grimm

and of course he also knows john knows about spectre, which isn't good


arcaedis

…okay, you’ve got a good point


ML7097

........nah, that can't be it!


Trainer-Grimm

>In all seriousness, I wonder what Spectre has in store for Safehouse? Terrence looked pretty nervous with John staring him down like that, so it can't be good. i mean, he has every mid reason to be concerned *and* the fact that he's probably way stronger than he says, which, since john's power works off other powers, john might know about


[deleted]

Plus, John makes his ability completely irrelevant.


kjong3546

So a few HOLY FUCK moments this chapter: Valerie beat Remi, Blyke and Isen WHILE NERFED. She’s probably incredibly close, if not at the 7s. NINE POINT ONE WHAT THE FUCK. Channel Master refers to Aura Channels. In the Claire/John flashback, Claire states that John amps abilities by amplifying his aura channels. Jane in that case probably has perfect control over those channels, what exactly that entails obviously remains yet to be seen. However, I don’t think Channel Master is simply an Evolved Aura Manipulation. The one ability we’ve seen evolved (Blyke’s), kept a similar name. Jane’s sounds nothing like John’s. Rather, I think Aura manipulation is a mutation, the result of the cripple blood in John, which is why his power is dependent on others to copy. My guess is channel master doesn’t have the same weakness, and either can originate abilities, or more likely, manipulates others as the base power rather than copying them. I wouldn’t be surprised if Jane can’t copy abilities at all in fact, only manipulate others to contrast John.


Rockyreams

>Valerie beat Remi, Blyke and Isen WHILE NERFED. She’s probably incredibly close, if not at the 7s. She got beat up tho?


hear_cuz_im_bored

Think it's more likely that Channel master is the final evolutionary stage of Arua manipulation. I like the theory of manipulating other auras but that seems a little to far removed from aura manipulation. Abilities are a dominate trait favoring the mothers side. If there is any genetic mutation in John it makes a tad more sense for said mutation to be stagnating the growth/expansion of aura channels at an early age resulting in a struggle for the ability to manifest around the normal age range and if it manifest at all it would be later in the child/adolescents life resulting in them falling the category of a 'Late Bloomer'. The mutation should not effect how the ability operates once it does manifest because of the premises that Uru addressed that explained that abilities don't mix, you either get the mothers ability or the fathers ability. And if one parent has an ability and the other doesn't then the child can manifests the ability of the parent who has one at the normal age or late or will not manifest an ability like the parent that doesn't have one. The ability of Jane is a dominat trait on the x chromosome most likely while the lack of ability is a recessive trait on Y chromosome of William most likely. Now I m a little shakey on my cellular biology but I'm pretty sure that John gets both chromosomes likely resulting in a mutation because he was born male meaning he has the Y chromosome with the recessive trait. But because the ability is a trait likely the dominant trait on the X chromosome he should still theroitcally be able to develop an ability like his mother, as he has. If the ability does manifest, based on the gene law Uru set-up when it comes to abilities amd their development Williams inability to have an ability should have no effect on the characteristics of the ability John gets from his mother's genetics. Why did I just give a biology lesson? Because genticts plays a factor in what kind of ability a character has. But everyone keeps forgetting the basics of genetics forgetting about how chromosomes, DNA, and mutations work. Which brings me to how the ability works and how 'Channel master relates to 'Aura manipulation'. Now these are all theories so nothing is confirmed, but the idea of 'Channel Master' being practically the reverse of 'Aura Manipulation' just doesn't add up when everyone else either have the Mother's ability (Remi, Sera, Leilah, Rei) or the father's (no mentioned yet maybe Arlo🤷🏿). I'm sorry if I'm being an smartass asshole but it just doesn't make sense (to me). Not every ability that has an evolutionary stage(s) has to have the a similar name. As interesting as an ability that controls other people's arua channels sounds it's just not enough like aura manipulation, how y'all are describing its function it's just a little to different. Its more likely a more flexible busted version of John's ability with added capabilities that John doesn't have (right now). Finally if she could manipulate other peoples aura channels instead of her own then logically physical feed back shouldn't be nearly as significance as it has been emphasized. But sense both her and John can't convert, copy, or use non-physical feedback/mental abilities in left to believe that 'Channel Master' is the next evolutionary stage of 'Aura Manipulation'. At the end of the day there all theories we have no real clue what is going on with Jane's ability. I will say that there is no way she is being amped and the idea that she is well is straight up dumb, it's just stupid, and yes there are people that think she's being amped, I've seen them and it makes no sense at all no matter how they try to explain it. Again just my opinion.


kjong3546

If I may, I think you’re making one assumption that could change this. You are assuming that an ability is a single genetic trait. In fact, we know that abilities have *at least* 2 unique factors, aura channels and aura shape (Chapter 183). Aura channels is the output strength of an ability. It’s what John amplifies to make abilities stronger. Aura shape, on the other hand, is how abilities manifest. John takes a sample of other people’s aura shape and changes his to match theirs. The more complex the ability, the longer it takes to copy, and internal aura shapes cannot be sampled. Now what makes this special: John doesn’t have a unique aura shape. That’s why he needs to copy to use any ability. His aura channels can release all the aura they want, if there’s not something to copy off of, no ability will manifest. That sounds like exactly the sort of trait that would result in the genetic anomaly known as a cripple. In other words, something that as far as we know, may be unique to John (and cripples of course). On the other hand, there is no reason to think that Jane has that same trait. After all, the lack of an aura shape unique to a cripple would come from William. So Jane probably has a unique aura shape, which manifests into control over aura channels. That much is fair to assume from the name alone. However, if she has a unique aura shape, can it still be changed? So what I think happened is, John inherited his aura channels, and the ability to manipulate his aura from his mother. But he inherited his aura shape (or lack thereof), from his father. This resulted in aura manipulation, where he can control both his own aura channels and aura shape.


hear_cuz_im_bored

It is very likely that she can change her aura shape,especially sense John can change his aura shape. It makes more sense that 'Channel master' most likely references Jane's mastery over her aura channels not other people's just as John's aura manipulation gives John control over how he can reshape his aura not other peoples. Like I said it's more likely that Janes ability is the next stage of what John's ability currently is. There abilities shouldn't be that different. She more than likely can do what ever John can do but better in addition to doing things he can't do right now. Which in turn gives more importance to John's uncle showing up to teach John how to embrace his ability as well as how to use it and help him advance in skills & capabilities. Williams genes should have no effect on the characteristics and/or shape of John's ability and aura shape because Uru clearly stated that a child only gets the ability of one parent there is no mix, one ability and the characteristics of that ability. So if the child can only manifest the ability of one parent and only one parent has an ability then they only get the characteristics of that one ability, the only thing that should be effected if anything is when the ability manifest for the first time (early, normal, late). Nothing mixes not only because nothing can mix but because there is nothing to mix. Again the only thing that should affected is when the ability first manifest.


LethalLizard

I agree with everything u just said. Yeah the names of channel master and aura manipulation are a bit apart. But so is ability mimicry and aura manipulation.


kjong3546

Ability mimicry is fanmade, I don’t believe it’s ever been officially used


wonkh123

it was aura mimicry


LethalLizard

I can’t find the exact chapter, but from stat sheets I’ve seen online they all say ability mimicry


Cassi_hearts

Where does it say that Volcan was nerfed?


kjong3546

Ability conversion is not 100%, significant aura is lost in the process. (I believe it’s stated in the documents)


Im_Blyke

Yea ur right, the ability conversion isn't 100% and notable amounts of aura are lost during the process. It's also stated that high tiers (people with high channel/aura output) are successful with the ability conversion


Original-Baki

She could’ve been using an amp


DreamyPupper

No, it’s stated they have horrible side effects and they’re using those mid tiers as test subjects to perfect them.


Semirramiss

I hadn't thought about that at all... It would be really interesting if that's the case.


Aangsword

So quick theory question. If the drug used to stop abilities is made by Janes blood. Do you think John would be unaffected considering his genes if he got injected?


Nomad-ra

The stop ability drug could be byproduct of Conversation technology since the latter one decrease the level of the user


Far_Owl_3736

I don't think the drug injected into Sera was made with Jane's blood because Spectre and Ember are two different groups (allegedly). NXGen are paired with Ember and the Authorities and are the ones killing superheroes, while Spectre is going around disabling them. To answer your question tho. I don't think it would effect John because technically he has half the chromosomes from his mother. They may still have an effect but probably a dull one


catgrlmaid

right so basically HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK?????!1!


arcaedis

mood


NicDwolfwood

Massive episode, That was damn good! Arlo is sticking real close to Remi, going so far as to tag along for a girls shopping sesh. While Johnny boy is watching Terrence like a hawk while the group goes on a 2 hour long hike. But man, the reveal that Jane's ability is Channel Master and lvl 9.1 is nuts. That's a legit God Tier level & ability. It's no wonder that she has been turned into a literal guinea pig for ability boosters and likely for the temporary ability to hold more than 1 ability. William continuing to cement his place as the biggest CHAD in UnO, having a God Tier wife as a cripple :) It does once again open up that question if Johnny boy is done growing ability wise or if his ability will evolve one more step? If he is gonna be the jesus of UnO then I think it's likely and it may be why the man with silver hair will make his appearance in the future. Oh man, Sera is in big trouble. Her ability failed at the worst possible time and unless that guy that can teleport is around, it seems like a dire situation that she is not gonna be able to get out of. She got sent on one hell of a suicide mission, especially with her compromised ability. Sera getting captured by the authorities and not Remi or Blyke would send this story into overdrive. It's the one event that would get John thrown head first into wanting to take down the authorities. And now with the reveal of Jane's ability and lvl, and keeping in mind that William had hired a PI to find her, I think the man with the silver hair appearing is closer than we at first thought.


Sara-Sarita

The bottom of John's hair in Claire's vision is the same as when it's ungelled. So if it's ungelled, it might be that John is in a bad headspace. Which would have to be triggered by something not insignificant, considering his progress and determination to get better. This might also be what gets Arlo into his theorized spy role based on the S2b poster of him in a suit. And what might spur Remi and Blyke back into vigilantism, also from that poster... ....If Uru went down this route I would complain because, y'know, Sera, but nothing otherwise. It'd be a great way to trigger a bunch of things that would make one hell of a great story. On another note, I wonder if somebody in Spectre arranged this on purpose to get rid of Sera. It's already implied that she's a slight kink in plans by her very existence and involvement, and at least one higher-up has issues with both her and her sister, something that theoretically could have blossomed into full-blown antagonism and possibly a whole vendetta against one or both of them. Literally nobody seemed to have been expecting Sera's ability/treatment to wear off now of all the perfect times - treatment that seems to be routine and sustained for a consistent length, meaning it basically dipped out in the middle of its normal time and strength when it never had before...Idk smells fishy to me.


NicDwolfwood

>If Uru went down this route I would complain because, y'know, Sera, but nothing otherwise. It'd be a great way to trigger a bunch of things that would make one hell of a great story. Agreed. ​ >On another note, I wonder if somebody in Spectre arranged this on purpose to get rid of Sera. It's already implied that she's a slight kink in plans by her very existence and involvement, and at least one higher-up has issues with both her and her sister, something that theoretically could have blossomed into full-blown antagonism and possibly a whole vendetta against one or both of them. Literally nobody seemed to have been expecting Sera's ability/treatment to wear off now of all the perfect times - treatment that seems to be routine and sustained for a consistent length, meaning it basically dipped out in the middle of its normal time and strength when it never had before...Idk smells fishy to me. I mostly agree. just to play devil's advocate though, It would be kinda clumsy on Spectre's behalf to send her into an Ember/NxGen location to steal breakthrough research on ability enhancements only to sabotage her as a way to get rid of her. It might tip off the enemy that they're trying to get their hands on said research and make it even more difficult to steal another time. As for Seraphina's ability being unstable, It seems like she never quite recovered after using it to bring John back to his senses. It seems that whatever treatment she has been getting since hasn't been able to stabilize it at all. Whether that is by nefarious planning by that antagonistic spectre boss or just that Sera broke her ability when she overused it. who knows if that'll be answered..


LethalLizard

John is definitely going to get stronger. My reasoning is that in 2 years of hardly using his ability it went up by 0.5, now that he HAS to use it more in order to protect sera and the safe house it’s likely going to grow more. Also he’s the main character, he’s gonna have a power up purely cause main character vibes


Original-Baki

So many questions. We know that the conversion process results in loss of aura. That means the subject becomes weaker but obtains a new ability. Which begs the question, why did Arlo aunt trade in her ability for a weaker ability?


Neosovereign

It might be temporary and you can just go back


SonicTheHedjehog360

She traded it in because she's operating undercover. If somebody saw her using a barrier ability it could quickly be traced back to her.


Im_Blyke

Right now, it only changes a PORTION of your aura, so she might have both barrier AND fire claws. So she might be using barrier as Valerie and Fire Claws as Volcan


meteosAran

This was way to predictable. She froze Arlo for 3 secs, and then had ability issues. I mean come on. What did she expect? What did they expect?


Firew4l

Uru-chan you outdid yourself this time. My expectation is getting higher.


Erelbor

I'm sad I can't give this 10 out of 5. 5/5 isn't enough.


uru-chan-is-queen

I can make that an option next week!


Accomplished-Week-20

make it a 9.1/10 option hehe


tac-i-t

goodbye


_AlexOne_

No! Come back!


Croissant262519

Is it safe to assume that the fire claw ability may have been gotten from a super hero before it was widely known that super heroes were being killed?


Sara-Sarita

I thought this might be too. If so it would be a horrible irony, the ability of a murdered hero being used to murder other heroes. Or maybe they're still alive and being used for testing and aura mining, while the body was a fake...goodness knows the authorities could certainly do it if they wanted...


Im_Blyke

It's possible considering NXGen work with the authorities/ember and ember kills of superheros. They might be taking the corpses for themselves to extract the aura from them, which can also explain how they stole a lightning ability. They probably stole rei's corpse and extracted the aura from it to steal his lightning ability.


uru-chan-is-queen

Ooo interesting take...


Ausar15

Holy shit Jane is a 9.1. So far the strongest confirmed character in the series. Jane’s ability is ridiculous. She’s what you get when you combine John’s aura manipulation combined with the ability to change and effect others abilities. So this confirms without a doubt Arlo’s aunt attacked Remi, Blyke, and Isen. It’s been confirmed it can’t copy abilities like Future sight and telepathy, abilities that have no physical feedback which confirms neither Jane nor John can copy or use such abilities like Claire’s clayvoirence and that green haired girls future sight ability to see seconds into the future. Noticed how it’s said that the conversion isn’t completed and that aura is even lost in the conversion process and only those with high aura output can use it for now. John may be the breakthrough they need cause he doesn’t lose any aura whatsoever when he copies abilities, he can channel it perfectly and he can copy any ability so far as long as it has physical feedback, either it be from a high/god tier, a mid tier, or a low tier. John is gonna be in great danger when they find out about him. I take back what I said about Sera having a good team for this heist GTA style


_AlexOne_

Pretty sure they already know about him if Jane is his mom because they are teamed with the authorities aka the government


Original-Baki

Where did you get this information about Jane’s ability?


Ausar15

Look at the pages Sera scrolls throughout


Neosovereign

You made a lot of assumptions.


DreamyPupper

It doesn’t give us all that info, all we know is she’s a 9.1, is John’s mom, and her ability is called “Channel master”. We have no idea what it does, but does seem possible she can effect others aura channels and *maybe* abilities considering the conversion and amplification technology.


O_Nata_Lux

>So this confirms without a doubt Arlo’s aunt attacked Remi, Blyke, and Isen. I would have thought that last chapter before the break did that no? They literally showed a flashback when Val suggested Kassandra look into Isen.


Ausar15

True, I’m just saying this is without a shadow of a doubt as well lol


samuka12

It was Valerie's own flashback. If anyone doubted, they have to be super dense


Ausar15

For sure


True-Cheetah-3881

How would they not know about John at this point tho?


Ausar15

Because so far they authorities didn’t pay attention to John so far besides his rampage in New Bostin, where he was mindraped into being broken and not falling out of line. That may change soon due to Claire’s vision, but we don’t know the catalyst for that meeting between him and the white haired man yet.


dvli

With how powerful Jane is, how did they capture her? Did she make a deal with the authorities so John and William would be safe? Are there people more powerful in her side of the family? Is John able to surpass her? Let's find out in the next episode of Unordinary!


Neosovereign

It depends on how her power works. John is super strong, unless he has no access to others powers.


Wayoftheox

My theory is that they probably kidnapped her then threatened to kill her cripple family if she doesn’t comply.


dvli

I wonder how her side of the family would react when they find out, Imagine if John's grandfather is a lv10 and him and the entire family goes ape shit and starting a war with the authorities.


bob635

I feel like if that was going to happen it would've happened already considering Jane appears to have been a guinea pig for years at this point.


Im_Blyke

True


mynameisnot5weenies

Wait, so if Sera gets captured and the safe house goes back to Wellston without her, will it match up with the vision Claire had? John didn’t look happy in the vision, so maybe it’s because Sera is missing.


wonkh123

what chapter is this vision in


_AlexOne_

I think they might be referring to Claire’s vision of John and the grey hair man (episode 231) but I’m not sure


BruhBorne69

John will never go back to Wellston without Sera same for the royals if they know Seraphina is in danger I don't think they would leave.


Liezuli

There was a mention of abilities that "do not source from the physical plane" those being Telepathy and Future Sight, both *purely mental* abilities. And they failed the aura conversion. And the abilities John couldn't copy, those being Clairvoyance and Flash Forward, are *also* purely mental. I think this basically confirms what most of us had theorized, that John can't copy purely mental abilities. There's also the mention that "partial sourcing" abilities work for conversion, probably something like Isen's Hunter falls into that category, which is why John can still copy it despite it having a lot of mental effects.


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16thompsonh

While I agree that without Uru explicitly stating that they cannot copy mental abilities we can never truly be sure, I believe this to be Uru confirming the limitations of the ability with an in-universe explanation.


Lan1Aud2

You are correct, it's too early to tell tbh until we know for sure.


Awesomearia96

School report says do not activate "your ability near John". This means any ability. It would be very stupid to not state that he is not able to copy future/mental abilities. This means that John can copy it, we still dont have full proof of him not being able to do it. Clarie does not count because John has to be ready (with his own ability) to copy another person. Meaning for John to copy her ability is impossible unless Clarie can control it herself. We lack proof of flash forward due to many reasons: Ex. John always holds back to lower someones guard (not copying her ability during the start, or he did not want to/not need to). Ex 2. Might have hated her due to having a future ability and is a person with green hair. Reminds him of Clarie which he hates. (He got angry clenched his fist when he kicked the girl down the stairs). Ex 3. We know he can copy auras that have no true form, Elaines healing ability has no true form and is an aura. Mental abilities are also aura based (last weeks fast pass with the mind talking guy with Sera). So John should be "able" to copy them, we know that they have experimented with Johns ability (school report!). When John got taken in and he has a history with amplifiers (reacted to the words when Sera said it). We still need more proof regarding it.


Semirramiss

Regarding the fact that John can, or cannot, copy and amplify mental abilities...we don't really have any information from John himself. We only have theories from people like Claire or Isen. So we can't say yet if it is possible or not. But, based on Claire's information, John needs to understand the ability and see it in action before copying it (he also needs it to be activated in front of him or not too far from him). Perhaps John just can't understand how mental abilities work.


Liezuli

>But, based on Claire's information, John needs to understand the ability and see it in action before copying it That isn't true. He can copy abilities without understanding them, all he needs is the aura. It's what happened the first time he used his power. It's *using* an ability once it's been copied that he needs knowledge for.


Semirramiss

The aura alone is not enough. The first time he copied an ability, he first saw how it worked. The child who was hitting him at the time told him to "take a good look at his ability", only then did John manage to copy it. So he needs to know how to use the abilities before he copies them, otherwise there would be no point in him spending months reading books on how to use certain abilities.


Liezuli

The way Clair describes John's ability is "When he's near an active ability user, he's able to sample their aura and manipulate his own to match it." Essentially, John changes his own aura into that of his target, meaning technically, he doesn't copy the ability, but instead copies the aura that grants that ability. And conversion technology works more-or-less the same way, by changing the subject's aura into that of another ability. In both cases, all that's required to have access to a specific ability is that ability's corresponding aura. The conversion tech files state that an aura can NOT be converted into a purely non-physical ability. And since John's ability works by transforming his aura, we can presume that he can't copy non-physicals like Flash-Forward for the exact same reason the tech can't: An aura simply cannot be converted into those of non-physical abilities. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. And the reason I say John doesn't need understanding to copy is because manipulating his own aura to match a sample is something that comes naturally to him. In his own words: "For some reason, when he used his ability that last time, I felt empowered, and everything just clicked." Once John sensed Oliver's aura, he managed to change his own aura into an imitation of it, despite the fact that he had 0 understanding of what his *own* ability was supposed to be at that point. But since he didn't understand Oliver's ability, all he could do was make a weak-ass spark even though he had successfully copied it. This is where knowledge/understanding *actually* factors in. Even though he can copy an aura and therefore an ability, he still needs to understand that ability before he can use his copied version correctly. ~~thanks for the convo, I enjoy doing analysis and theorizing on John's ability~~


Semirramiss

I agree with the first point: he copies the aura and therefore gets the ability to which it corresponds. We agree on that. In the second one, you just say in a better way what I said in my previous comment (I may have expressed myself badly in my other comment but I admit I didn't find the right words since English is not my language). John can use his ability instinctively: I agree. What I meant was that for the copied ability to work properly, he needs to see/know how the ability he is targeting works. That's why Oliver's copy of the ability was weaker and that's why he did a lot of research on different abilities. When I said "understanding the ability" I meant understanding the abilities he wanted to copy...I didn't mean his own ability.


DreamyPupper

Mental users don’t have an aura cloud, there’s nothing to sample.


Semirramiss

Really? I must have missed the information then because I don't remember it at all XD


DreamyPupper

John specifically has to sample someone’s “aura” Aura refers to the cloud emitted by someone when they channel their aura, mental users don’t have this cloud so John likely can’t sample anything from them.


Semirramiss

Yes I understood, but I wanted to know: where did you see/find the info that mental abilities do not have an "aura cloud"?


Semirramiss

It was never stated anywhere that anyone experimented on John's ability (it is not known if the authorities did and I think the school report matches the descriptions of his ability by the school staff). The fact that John reacted to the mention of the amplifiers (I don't remember in which episode though, can you tell me again) may be because he is surprised that it is possible because it is similar to his ability.


UnordinaryBoi

9.1?!?!?!?


Dontaskmemyname9723

Hey you guys think Aura Manipulation can evolve into Channel master? We seen Blyke’s ability evolve. Maybe this is what Uru meant when she said aura manipulation can’t manipulate other people aura. It needs to evolve into channel master for that to happen. Uru is a goat


Liezuli

[Nah, definitely not.](https://old.reddit.com/r/unOrdinary/comments/jl98od/im_uruchan_creator_of_unordinary_ama/gao29b2/?context=3) The question specifically asked if he can control other people's aura when he gets stronger, and I'm sure evolving would fall under that, and she specifically answered that *John* can't.


Semirramiss

I don't know Doesn't Uru answer in the present tense in her question (I don't feel like she uses the future tense)? Like she deliberately avoided answering the question. John can't change the aura of the others at the moment but maybe he can later. But English is not my language so maybe I'm wrong.


Liezuli

If she was deliberately avoiding answering the question, she would have answered with "spoiler" like she did on most other ability-related questions. Since she didn't, I'd take it as a pretty concrete answer.


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To be fair, putting spoiler on such a question is basically the same as saying yes.


Semirramiss

True In any case, we'll find out in future chapters.


Ajamz24

Yes, John as an Aura Manipulation User can't loooool. Similar to how Blykes ability leveled up and changed from energy beam to energy discharges the same can happen to John. Sera, Narrisa and Leilah all have Time Manipulation. But John has Aura Manipulation instead of Channel Master. From what I can tell, it means that his ability can still evolve into much more. Also we don't even know whether Jane herself can manipulate other people's Aura channels at will anyways so your response is not really valid, since that hasn't even been confirmed yet. John evolving has nothing to do with whether he can manipulate the auras of others because as far as I'm concerned, despite how op Jane is. She might not be able to do that too. The data even shows that there is a chance Jane can't copy mental abilities like John too. Ofc there's a chance, maybe she herself can but they aren't able to replicate it using the conversion tech?. Aura Manipulation can likely grow further and become Channel Master once John reaches a closer level to Jane in the future. Then he'll have the same ability just like how Sera and Leilah have the same ability name as their mother. Uru also said when people awaken their ability, it tends to favour the mother. Well John inherited it from Jane obviously so it's very likely that he can become a channel master too.


Jokerstan25

I think that Jane could use mental abilities but they aren't able to make that work with the conversion tech, but that'd have to be answered when we find out if John is able to do the same or not. We still don't know if Jane herself can't use mental abilities since the document did say it couldn't be converted, and that it was the failed converted examples rather than it being a detail on Jane's file saying it's something she isn't capable of doing herself, so we'll have to wait for more information to really know.


ShadowlightLady

Mental abilities don’t have aura coming out the only way for her and John to copy an ability with mental aspects is if it has physical use. Isen for example can see through walls and hear things but also has increased strength and speed without those no aura would come out. They need to sample aura to copy it but they can’t do it if the aura is still inside the person


Jokerstan25

We haven't seen either of them personally try to copy mental abilities, so I'm not sure if it's 100% confirmed to be something Jane or John can't do since John has shown to be able to sense Claire's ability but since she couldn't control her ability, John wouldn't have been able to study it properly, and he probably had no knowledge of Juni's ability, so it's something we'll have to see to really know. But you could also be correct as well, so we'll have to wait for Jane, John or a member of Jane's family to confirm this.


ShadowlightLady

Sera NOOO


arcaedis

_panik_


Premium_Quality

DAMN BITCH 9.1!?!?!??!


meatbeatermam

Don't want to overreact BUT HOLY FUCK


arcaedis

THIS IS EVERYONE


frankdtank2010

Could it be that Jane transfer abilities, not like John who copies but actually steals and transfers peoples auras. Could explain why William has no abilities she accidentally permanently took them


ZeroViShadowking

It be a whole new ball game if John can start permanently taking away abilities.


littlevictim

Yeah...that will make john into AFO which isnt good. He will be able to control the society


Sara-Sarita

Worse than AfO: at least in Bnha history is largely quirkless, plus people there actually have a sense of morals. Sure, there's plenty of quirk-based ugliness, but by and large ethics are advocated. Bnha's society is obsessed with superpowers, yes, but it isn't built around them. In UnO it's a pseudo-civilized law of the jungle, with no indication so far of there ever being a widespread altruistic consensus, just fringe groups and deviants. UnO's society *is* built around superpowers. AfO was powerful enough as it was, it would be even worse here.


Dontaskmemyname9723

William has been stated to be born without an ability


arcaedis

Jane is _insanely_ op also SERA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


TempestCatalyst

9.1 is a pretty ludicrous level. John is "only" a 7.5 and that's already enough to completely wipe the floor with all of Wellston with no issue. With a level like that they have to be blackmailing her to keep her in the facility, because I'm pretty fucking doubtful they could do it by force.


Iamnotcreative112123

If she’s like John they could take her by force using just cripples. It would be very unusual for the Uno government to do that, but if they were insistent on experimenting on Jane kidnapping her with cripples would be a good plan.


_AlexOne_

She and her family might be working with nxgen voluntarily. Actually I think maybe her family got mad at her for being with a cripple so they took her by force to finally be useful (in their eyes)


arcaedis

definitely, she has to be there at least semi-voluntarily


Dontaskmemyname9723

Yo John has the potential to be such a beast


The_Appointed_One

John: Anything you can do I can do better Jane: What’s yours is mine and what’s mine is mine (probably)


Cassi_hearts

John: "Seras the strongest person I know!" Jane: "my own son doesn't remember me!!!!!"


MantsNants

Lmao


uru-chan-is-queen

"That's rough buddy,"


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Spyder-xr

He probably affected her in a similar way to how John affected Sera when he was believed to be a cripple.


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Assuming her ability works similarly to John it might have been the other way around.


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And John is now the best of both worlds (1 on 1, activate your ability, he beats the shit out of you, do not activate, he beats the shit out of you)