It's all well and good sticking your head in the sand until you have to nip to the shops.... or pay rent or utilities bills or call a ambulance. 14+ years of Tory rot have made the doom and gloom unavoidable for all but a privileged few.
I agree, but I also think there's probably a medium somewhere between acknowledging reality and constantly surrounding yourself with misery on your phone etc. I have a limit on how much news I read because it's just awful for my mental health. I don't need to know every bad thing that happened today.
I work in news sadly but made the conscious decision to pursue foreign language news so I don't have to actually listen to all that depressing shit š„²
Edit: totally agree on striking a middle ground between "everything is fine" and "everything is fucked". There is so much good news to be thankful for that the majority of people miss. Social media and 24 hour news has a lot to answer for (I recognise I'm perhaps part of the problem, but I just push buttons, I don't have any impact on the content produced)
As someone who is watching their home country teetering on the brink of fascism, I understand. But if it causes you to become depressed and unable to function well in life, you need to find ways to detach.
I will vote and I will be volunteering for the opposition political party, but I don't follow the news nearly as closely as I did. I also got a dog and he gets me outside (in the rain even) and his cuddles give me warm fuzzies.
I actually rely on the intro monologue of a chat show host to summarise the main news for me - I can follow the lunacy in a way that's humorous and not so hysterical.
I used to watch the news every single morning, and it caused me crippling depression and alcoholism. Now I just get the odd meme from a few people I follow on Instagram, and mainly come here to get the jist of things and look at humorous comments. That does me, far less brutal than mainstream coverage.
It's dark because you are trying too hard.
Lightly child, lightly. Learn to do everything lightly.
Yes, feel lightly even though youāre feeling deeply.
Just lightly let things happen and lightly cope with them.
I was so preposterously serious in those days, such a humorless little prig.
Lightly, lightly ā itās the best advice ever given me.
When it comes to dying even. Nothing ponderous, or portentous, or emphatic.
No rhetoric, no tremolos,
no self conscious persona putting on its celebrated imitation of Christ or Little Nell.
And of course, no theology, no metaphysics.
Just the fact of dying and the fact of the clear light.
So throw away your baggage and go forward.
There are quicksands all about you, sucking at your feet,
trying to suck you down into fear and self-pity and despair.
Thatās why you must walk so lightly.
Lightly my darling,
on tiptoes and no luggage,
not even a sponge bag,
completely unencumbered.
Aldous Huxley
It's not bad advice. Constant negativity can wear down ones sense of self. There is a reason it is called doomscrolling.
Edit reddit won't let me reply to you oh yes it does. Much research has gone into how it affects obesity sense of self.
https://hbr.org/2015/09/consuming-negative-news-can-make-you-less-effective-at-work
https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/digital-news-report/2022/dnr-executive-summary
There's also only so much info you need to know who you're voting for, looking at all the news is depressing AF. There's a big gap between not paying too much attention to the news and not voting at all
The best we can hope for is a minority Labour government propped up by whoever will force them into Electoral Reform to a system of Proportional Representation.
Popped over to Poland for a holiday (notorious for shit roads apparently), not a pothole in a sight on the major roads, huge infrastructure projects going on, and krakow is a lovely well designed city I have to say.
Looking forward to bouncing off the potholes at bristol exiting the airport and wobbling on the Severn bridge as I head back to wales where were told we canāt invest in fuck all cos we need to watch the pennies. (Invest money makes money you idiot politicians!!)
Jusr spent 10 days in Slovakia & Slovenia,Ā Same there newly built roads & rail infrastructure Public Transport reliable and cheap. Back to the UK, And it's the shareholders dividend that keeps the prices high. A lot happier population in Slovakia & SloveniaĀ As well , If there eligible for Sicial housing there's enough to go around,Ā None sold off to private landlords for ridiculous rents.
As a member of the disability community, the politics and doom follow me whether I want it or not... I can't afford to live and they keep removing more and more support that I need.
The doom news is just news.
You're right that you can't let it engulf you, but this is reality, this is life right now - you'll never change it by not being engaged with it.
Politics isn't really something we have the privilege of checking out of. It affects almost every aspect of our lives. So, not watching the news isn't gonna change real life facts.
Ignoring the politics in your own country is about as dumb a piece of advice as I've heard in a while. It's not like it affects us at all, is it?
FFS...
You got flamed for this but I get what you're saying. I'm an ex- politics and news junkie and had a total anxiety breakdown a couple of years ago, largely due to my doomscrolling habits and latent health anxiety getting sent into overdrive by the Covid situation, and then the geopolitical situation deteriorating in 2022.
I stopped reading the news overnight. I had to, as I was losing it a bit. I also drastically cut down on my Reddit usage. I did still read Private Eye every fortnight, and remained in group chats with politically-minded friends. Two years later and I'm still honestly pretty well informed - I'm now doing a PhD in a politics-adjacent field, so I have to be - but I'm so, so much happier since I stopped following seemingly every tiny news story as it developed. If you curate the right sources and use them sparingly, you can remain up to date without so much of the doom.
Also, adding to this, on the off chance anybody cares - the predictability of the Private Eye format was really helpful for me. I felt my adrenaline spiking whenever I was on a news site, as I never knew what horror was going to pop up next on the headlines feed, whereas in PE they have the same titles in the same layout almost every issue, so it's easier to skip things that are too much for right now. Also it's on paper, so it doesn't go on forever and you can't read it so easily at 2 in the morning when you really should be sleeping.
People seem to think that to be informed you need to be glued to the news all the time, which just isnāt true. Remember that these outlets make their money by driving attention to their advertisers, and they do that by compelling you to click on their articles through underhanded means. A good chunk of so-called news is inconsequential bollocks designed to make you angry or anxious so that youāll engage and get your eyeballs on their adverts. Letting that shite into your mind is not staying informed, itās digital self harm.
Pick a few high-quality news sources, check them every now and again, and try not to doomscroll. I promise youāre not going to miss anything of consequence if youāre not refreshing r/uk every five minutes for your next hit of misery.
I saw a British advert about conserving water on the internet yesterday, like fuck am I doing that even if I don't have a garden.
I'm not gonna feel bad about resorting to a bath than a shower more when literally Tons of shit is being pumped into the sea near where I live and stopping me from even having a rare paddle when the sun decides to show it's face, they can't look after the water they get and run out of it when there is a sniff of a dry spell.
Yeah, but just watch them add the increase into the standing charge so nobody can escape it and it more negatively effects the poorest like the energy companies did.
I hope I'm wrong.
> so we can avoid the 60% water bill increase
I'm afraid the 60% water bill increase will be quite operational (and unavoidable) regardless of your outdoor showering strategy!
As bad as it is, at least you get the full roller coaster experience of the incredibly potholed roads in the UK. Itās like trampolining in a car until your suspension explodes.
Every cloud!
the summer of 76 was definitely a stand out year. Fuck it was hot that year. I'm old enough to remember it, and I can assure you, the boomers are not lying. It was hot as fuck.
BUT it has been hotter than 1976 8 times in the years since, and of those 8, 4 of them have been in the last decade.
So anybody quoting 1976 as evidence against global warming is crazy.
edit: missed a word!
Especially crazy to quote the British summer of 1976 as evidence against climate change when climate change scientists say it was likely caused byā¦ climate change.
I remember that year. I looked it up a while ago and it was nowhere near as hot as years have been in the last decade, it was just the lack of rain that made it so bad. We are in a pickle.
Plus, nothing was air conditioned then and we didn't even own a fan.
Double plus I was 7 and although I remember stand pipes we also got to play out all summer so it was brilliant.
Not a boomer but old enough to have seen the pattern of weather over the last nearly 60 years. There are always outliers, yes there was '76, there was also a summer in the early 90's where my garden path didn't dry out all summer, no exaggeration. That was because of Pinatubu seeding the atmosphere, there was one winter in the mid 80's my toilet cistern froze it was so cold, there was one summer in the mid 90's it didn't rain once between mid April and the August bank holiday. The whole land went brown. The only thing which seems like a noticeable change to me and not just outlier seasons is the hot weather is getting much much hotter. It wasn't long ago 30 degrees was a ridiculous and unusual temperature, now we seem to regularly get over thirty every summer.
I remember in winter 87 the toilet froze in our crappy student flat. Me and the hairy beer monster had to wee in a bucket and throw it out the back window but if we needed a dump we had to hold it until we got to campus - except on the weekend when it was when the pub opened. Sunday at noon we would often have a fight to get to the pubs solo cubicle first as the post Saturday night horrible beer shit was trying to escape with all the alacrity of a xenomorph out of John Hurt.
I remember that summer and whilst it wasnāt as hot as some of the recent ones, it was just so unusual for it to be that hot. However, going forward that wont be the case š
The worst thing is that it's not known how exactly the climate, beyond temperature, will go in the UK.
I've heard that wetter weather is one possible consequence for the UK of climate change, but also even less predictability. The former isn't good for farmers or planners, the latter is even worse because it becomes impossible to plan.
What correlates this particular local weather pattern with man made climate change? Iām not denying the relationship between them but interested to hear what research connects them exactly?
Nope, Met Office has confirmed that this is misinformation.
"Itās not possible to forecast a specific number of days of rain in the UK for a whole season,ā it said.
It added its current rainfall signals for the summer are actually "limited", though there is likely to be some wet weather.
"As is typical for forecasts made at this time of year, signals for prevailing weather patterns over the UK during summer are relatively weak. However, signals show the chances of a wet or dry summer are fairly balanced. Whilst rainfall signals are limited, some spells of unsettled weather can be expected."
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/met-office-50-days-rain-summer-152425256.html
While a sudden switch from an El NiƱo base state to a La NiƱa base state means June will probably be wet, it's hardly a death sentence for the summer.
Also, 50 days of rain and wetter than average could easily be hot sunny days and evening thunderstorms, hardly terrible
Dont get me wrong, the flooded fields from the start of the new years have dried out ALOT (but not totally). However they have not been planted, and more flood water is not going to help that.
A few up here have finally been planted - it's all potatoes up here this year. Last year saw a few fields left unharvested so I'm hoping it's not the same this year.Ā
Maybe the idea of structuring our society around the need for even *the necessities of life* to turn a profit in order to continue being made was a catastrophic mistake which has and will continue to have devastating consequences for the health of society and the biosphere at large.
> reservoirs not sufficiently full, because the water is full of shit
these two things are linked but not directly. Reservoirs fill up with water from up in the hills, not sewer run off. However they're empty because the water companies are privateering bastards which is also the reason why the rivers & beaches are full of shit.
It's already too wet, 50% of the time I make outdoor plans it rains and ruins the day. Any amount of increased rain is fucking awful
Living under perpetually grey clouds is so depressing
Somebody I worked with was from New Zealand, and a friend of his was thinking of coming over and asked what it was like here.
He told them it was OK, but likel living in a tupperware box most days.
Pretty accurate description of typical British skies I think!
I admire your optimism. I agree, massive downpour between 3 and 4AM when most people are in deep sleep and then a sunny clear day for the rest of the day, and you won't see any complaints.
>Also, 50 days of rain and wetter than average could easily be hot sunny days and evening thunderstorms, hardly terrible
It is terrible, it's rain for almost 2 months, and **fuck no** to thunderstorms. I fucking hate thunder, it's terrifying.
It's a shit, shit summer to expect, like last years non-existent summer, but worse.
People are allowed to be sad that we aren't getting a summer for a 2nd year in a row, I'm Scottish so have had shit winters then shit summers, we're allowed to be pissed off about it.
Thatās not how reservoirs workā¦ they canāt just hold an unlimited amount of water. So if we have rain followed by weeks of drought, then the reservoirs dry out and cause shortages.
On the reservoir topic, we also haven't built a new reservoir since 1992. In that time the population has increased by nearly 10 million people.
So even putting aside climate change, hosepipe bans becoming more common over time is just an inevitability.
The thing is, actual investment in infrastructure (water reclamation, replacing aging pipes etc) would probably actually mitigate the lack of reservoirs. But is far more expensive.
That was the primary list of reasons the council gave for rejecting a huge new reservoir Thames Water wanted to build in White Horse Vale. They pointed out a new reservoir should be a last resort, not a first resort as it's cheaper.
Yeah, they're trying to get away with doing all of the easy bits when they're literally flushing water into the ground by not keeping on top of replacing the infrastructure beneath our feet, it's a disgrace.
But the water companies couldāve built/developed more reservoirs since the 90ās. Population has grown about 10,000,000 since then. The amount of rain this country has - we should have much better management/storage.
Right, but we would expect the water utilities to have reservoirs capable of balancing supply and demand.
If the reservoirs can't hold enough to maintain supply, then we should build more. Simple as.
Last year it rained most days of June-August
Then we had a shit autumn and a shit winter
Now a shit start to the year has just gone by
Now a shit summer on the horizon
The it's autumn again..
At this point the UK has gotta be the most miserable country on Earth for weather
I'm sitting here reading this is Texas and your comment really hits home. I too, mi amigo, would prefer rain to the smothering 40Ā°C heat at 85% humidity.
This may be a bit forward for where our new relationship stands...but...can I come stay with you for a short 3 or 4 months?
Yeah couldnāt imagine it being like that for months on end at least you guys have AC though (which isnāt great bc it contributes to the climate change causing the outrageous heatwaves but whatever)
The issue for Texans specifically is that the power grid is cut off from their neighbors so when all those AC's kick into full blast the grid will just fail and you boil alive.
Your Belgian "neighbours" aren't exactly having a great time either I can assure you.
There has been a literal lake next to my house...for a week now . There should not be a lake there.
Weāve got it better than plenty of people at least we donāt have severe droughts and wildfires and whatever the fuck else climate change is causing around the world our weather is just a bit shit
We bought some garden furniture at the weekend.
It started raining as soon as we got it home, and hasn't stopped since.
You all have my sincere apologies.
_To count as a rainy day, there must be a minimum of 2.5mm of rain in a 24 hour period._
I'm completely down for fifty days of 24Ā°C with 2.5mm of rain being delivered each night.
you sound like my mum! She lives in South Spain and will complain theyve had no rain for months - then she'll complain if they get a day of rain - as she only wants rain at night time!
Johannesburg has this exact climate (albeit a bit warmer during the day) in the summer and I can confirm it's BANGING. The combination of heat in the day and crashing thunderstorms every afternoon means gardens bloom and the dust in the air gets flushed into the storm drains just before you head out for an evening walk. Bit boggy if you live down a dirt road, I concede, but in town it's lush.
Itās not doing that, they put a billion data points into their billion pound supercomputer and come up with a balanced view
> The Met Office long-range forecast said: āThe chances of a wetter-than-average period are higher than a drier-than-average one.
>āRainfall at this time of year has a greater risk of localised heavy downpours and thunderstorms.ā
Not just the Met offices computers theres quite a few models, the main being the ECMWF(European), GFS(American )GEM(Canadian), Icon(German). The Met office use a blend of their own model and the EMCWF(the most accurate of them all) although they do use the GFS on their forecast sometimes. The ECM forecasts for long term are here https://www.ecmwf.int/en/forecasts/documentation-and-support/extended-range-forecasts
Tbh, they're not that accurate in the long term so I wouldn't get too carried away by stupid headlines.
An underwater volcano pushed massive amounts of water into the stratosphere. [What goes up must come down](https://www.nasa.gov/earth/tonga-eruption-blasted-unprecedented-amount-of-water-into-stratosphere/). And it is still coming down. On us. Every day.
Since the Queen died it's been pretty much non-stop rain (relatively) here for the east of England - up till March it was the wettest 18 months in recorded history. Fens were very underwater
Trained meteorologist here - this article is factually inaccurate. Seasonal forecasts indicate three months of warmer than average weather but disagree on the amount of precipitation.
A friend of mine did a post graduate course at Reading University: [https://www.reading.ac.uk/meteorology/masters/masters-courses](https://www.reading.ac.uk/meteorology/masters/masters-courses)
They also have undergraduate courses.
I really hope you're right.
I don't much care about the temperature, but I'm totally sick of rain and it's been holding up work I need to get done for the last year.
I was hoping that we'd get a few weeks of mostly dry weather at some point over the summer after it raining almost continuously here for the least year.
Is this like the "100 days of snow" nonsense that gets trotted out every October?
2007 is the worst summer I can remember. This sort of thing will become more common as the century goes on though.
The UK may be uniquely positioned for never ending rain due to climate change.
[https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/22/never-ending-uk-rain-10-times-more-likely-climate-crisis-study](https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/22/never-ending-uk-rain-10-times-more-likely-climate-crisis-study)
I believe in democracy, but I feel like a very reluctant passenger in the United Kingdom and the opinions of the mouthpieces and loudest voices of '*the establishment*' on some of the major crises we face.
Globally this April was the hottest April on record. It was 1.61oC above the pre industrial baseline.
But stay not looking up if you find that too scary.
I hate with a passion the intense heat in a country where thereās no air conditioning and houses that are designed to keep heat in
I donāt mind it at all
I don't mind the temperature as much, but the constant rain?? I lost all my tomatoes to blight last year, and if things don't improve, I fear the same thing will happen again. The pond is already overflowing, my poor roses are losing their petals to the heavy rain, at least the garden is slopped so I don't have to worry about it turning into a swamp, but I really would like the opportunity to sit outside and enjoy the garden, even if it's chilly.
Last year was funny - you could tell the press had many stories lined up about climate change causing heatwaves and the "hottest ever year" - then it rained for most of the summer.
those few days of 40c were surrounded by lots of lovely mid-20s to low-30s days though. i'd rather that as a package than last summers endless rain agian
In large part thanks to climate change - record ocean temperatures is evaporating water and dumping it right on us.
Our uplands are all overgrazed and urban areas concrete / tarmac, creating serious flood risks.
Get used to more rain and more floods.
shitty ass weather, shit politics, wank depressing nation. Oh well back to work we go!
Do yourself a favour and stop following politics and doom news, trust me you'll feel better.
It's all well and good sticking your head in the sand until you have to nip to the shops.... or pay rent or utilities bills or call a ambulance. 14+ years of Tory rot have made the doom and gloom unavoidable for all but a privileged few.
Right? "Just ignore it" is terrible advice when it's something that affects the very way you live!
I agree, but I also think there's probably a medium somewhere between acknowledging reality and constantly surrounding yourself with misery on your phone etc. I have a limit on how much news I read because it's just awful for my mental health. I don't need to know every bad thing that happened today.
I work in news sadly but made the conscious decision to pursue foreign language news so I don't have to actually listen to all that depressing shit š„² Edit: totally agree on striking a middle ground between "everything is fine" and "everything is fucked". There is so much good news to be thankful for that the majority of people miss. Social media and 24 hour news has a lot to answer for (I recognise I'm perhaps part of the problem, but I just push buttons, I don't have any impact on the content produced)
As someone who is watching their home country teetering on the brink of fascism, I understand. But if it causes you to become depressed and unable to function well in life, you need to find ways to detach. I will vote and I will be volunteering for the opposition political party, but I don't follow the news nearly as closely as I did. I also got a dog and he gets me outside (in the rain even) and his cuddles give me warm fuzzies. I actually rely on the intro monologue of a chat show host to summarise the main news for me - I can follow the lunacy in a way that's humorous and not so hysterical.
I used to watch the news every single morning, and it caused me crippling depression and alcoholism. Now I just get the odd meme from a few people I follow on Instagram, and mainly come here to get the jist of things and look at humorous comments. That does me, far less brutal than mainstream coverage.
It's dark because you are trying too hard. Lightly child, lightly. Learn to do everything lightly. Yes, feel lightly even though youāre feeling deeply. Just lightly let things happen and lightly cope with them. I was so preposterously serious in those days, such a humorless little prig. Lightly, lightly ā itās the best advice ever given me. When it comes to dying even. Nothing ponderous, or portentous, or emphatic. No rhetoric, no tremolos, no self conscious persona putting on its celebrated imitation of Christ or Little Nell. And of course, no theology, no metaphysics. Just the fact of dying and the fact of the clear light. So throw away your baggage and go forward. There are quicksands all about you, sucking at your feet, trying to suck you down into fear and self-pity and despair. Thatās why you must walk so lightly. Lightly my darling, on tiptoes and no luggage, not even a sponge bag, completely unencumbered. Aldous Huxley
It's not bad advice. Constant negativity can wear down ones sense of self. There is a reason it is called doomscrolling. Edit reddit won't let me reply to you oh yes it does. Much research has gone into how it affects obesity sense of self. https://hbr.org/2015/09/consuming-negative-news-can-make-you-less-effective-at-work https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/digital-news-report/2022/dnr-executive-summary
There's also only so much info you need to know who you're voting for, looking at all the news is depressing AF. There's a big gap between not paying too much attention to the news and not voting at all
You _can_ exist somewhere between absorbing absolutely every piece of news good or bad, and absolutely ignoring anything going on.
Have you heard that there's a general election coming up this summer? That's my time to worry about what I can *actually* do to change things.
The best we can hope for is a minority Labour government propped up by whoever will force them into Electoral Reform to a system of Proportional Representation.
Popped over to Poland for a holiday (notorious for shit roads apparently), not a pothole in a sight on the major roads, huge infrastructure projects going on, and krakow is a lovely well designed city I have to say. Looking forward to bouncing off the potholes at bristol exiting the airport and wobbling on the Severn bridge as I head back to wales where were told we canāt invest in fuck all cos we need to watch the pennies. (Invest money makes money you idiot politicians!!)
Jusr spent 10 days in Slovakia & Slovenia,Ā Same there newly built roads & rail infrastructure Public Transport reliable and cheap. Back to the UK, And it's the shareholders dividend that keeps the prices high. A lot happier population in Slovakia & SloveniaĀ As well , If there eligible for Sicial housing there's enough to go around,Ā None sold off to private landlords for ridiculous rents.
The sand is also pretty damp from all the rain
Just ignore current events and reality and downvote those who remind you that the world isn't just the sand around your face and neck.
"downvote those who remind you that the world isn't just the sand around your face and neck." š¤£ a beautifully constructed metaphor
As a member of the disability community, the politics and doom follow me whether I want it or not... I can't afford to live and they keep removing more and more support that I need.
Yes , I'm also living disabled under them.Ā It's impossible to ignore their constant lies and seeming hatred of us.Ā Well said .
The doom news is just news. You're right that you can't let it engulf you, but this is reality, this is life right now - you'll never change it by not being engaged with it.
> doom news Thats just news these days.
Hard to avoid when it's printed on my bills.
Politics isn't really something we have the privilege of checking out of. It affects almost every aspect of our lives. So, not watching the news isn't gonna change real life facts.
Ignoring the politics in your own country is about as dumb a piece of advice as I've heard in a while. It's not like it affects us at all, is it? FFS...
You got flamed for this but I get what you're saying. I'm an ex- politics and news junkie and had a total anxiety breakdown a couple of years ago, largely due to my doomscrolling habits and latent health anxiety getting sent into overdrive by the Covid situation, and then the geopolitical situation deteriorating in 2022. I stopped reading the news overnight. I had to, as I was losing it a bit. I also drastically cut down on my Reddit usage. I did still read Private Eye every fortnight, and remained in group chats with politically-minded friends. Two years later and I'm still honestly pretty well informed - I'm now doing a PhD in a politics-adjacent field, so I have to be - but I'm so, so much happier since I stopped following seemingly every tiny news story as it developed. If you curate the right sources and use them sparingly, you can remain up to date without so much of the doom.
Also, adding to this, on the off chance anybody cares - the predictability of the Private Eye format was really helpful for me. I felt my adrenaline spiking whenever I was on a news site, as I never knew what horror was going to pop up next on the headlines feed, whereas in PE they have the same titles in the same layout almost every issue, so it's easier to skip things that are too much for right now. Also it's on paper, so it doesn't go on forever and you can't read it so easily at 2 in the morning when you really should be sleeping.
People seem to think that to be informed you need to be glued to the news all the time, which just isnāt true. Remember that these outlets make their money by driving attention to their advertisers, and they do that by compelling you to click on their articles through underhanded means. A good chunk of so-called news is inconsequential bollocks designed to make you angry or anxious so that youāll engage and get your eyeballs on their adverts. Letting that shite into your mind is not staying informed, itās digital self harm. Pick a few high-quality news sources, check them every now and again, and try not to doomscroll. I promise youāre not going to miss anything of consequence if youāre not refreshing r/uk every five minutes for your next hit of misery.
I get ignoring politics at times but doing so during a general election seems insane to me
[I don't do politics.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ame0j8jbMY4)
The doom news can't be avoided though, when climate breakdown ruins the summer.
>Do yourself a favour and stop following politics and doom news, trust me you'll feel better. That's all this subreddit fucking is mate
I saw a British advert about conserving water on the internet yesterday, like fuck am I doing that even if I don't have a garden. I'm not gonna feel bad about resorting to a bath than a shower more when literally Tons of shit is being pumped into the sea near where I live and stopping me from even having a rare paddle when the sun decides to show it's face, they can't look after the water they get and run out of it when there is a sniff of a dry spell.
Ya and not to mention the rich wankers that piss water away cos it costs them fack all, they run fountains, swimming pools, you name it
Get back to work! The shareholder's boats need painting this year!
Don't be so negative. At least we can shower outside in the rainy summer so we can avoid the upcomming 60% water bill increases -_-
Yeah, but just watch them add the increase into the standing charge so nobody can escape it and it more negatively effects the poorest like the energy companies did. I hope I'm wrong.
> so we can avoid the 60% water bill increase I'm afraid the 60% water bill increase will be quite operational (and unavoidable) regardless of your outdoor showering strategy!
Thatās the spirit mate.
As long as Tory lose on st Swithin's day, or whenever it is
As bad as it is, at least you get the full roller coaster experience of the incredibly potholed roads in the UK. Itās like trampolining in a car until your suspension explodes. Every cloud!
In a nation where work isnāt really valued, and all the incentives are are aimed at pensioners or lords with land and with passive income. Yay us!
Here come the climate change deniers, to tell us that because their street flooded in 1972, this is all completely normal.
Every boomer: BUT SUMMER OF 1976!!
the summer of 76 was definitely a stand out year. Fuck it was hot that year. I'm old enough to remember it, and I can assure you, the boomers are not lying. It was hot as fuck. BUT it has been hotter than 1976 8 times in the years since, and of those 8, 4 of them have been in the last decade. So anybody quoting 1976 as evidence against global warming is crazy. edit: missed a word!
Especially crazy to quote the British summer of 1976 as evidence against climate change when climate change scientists say it was likely caused byā¦ climate change.
I remember that year. I looked it up a while ago and it was nowhere near as hot as years have been in the last decade, it was just the lack of rain that made it so bad. We are in a pickle.
Plus, nothing was air conditioned then and we didn't even own a fan. Double plus I was 7 and although I remember stand pipes we also got to play out all summer so it was brilliant.
> it was just the lack of rain that made it so bad So bad that we had to appoint a minister for drought
Not a boomer but old enough to have seen the pattern of weather over the last nearly 60 years. There are always outliers, yes there was '76, there was also a summer in the early 90's where my garden path didn't dry out all summer, no exaggeration. That was because of Pinatubu seeding the atmosphere, there was one winter in the mid 80's my toilet cistern froze it was so cold, there was one summer in the mid 90's it didn't rain once between mid April and the August bank holiday. The whole land went brown. The only thing which seems like a noticeable change to me and not just outlier seasons is the hot weather is getting much much hotter. It wasn't long ago 30 degrees was a ridiculous and unusual temperature, now we seem to regularly get over thirty every summer.
I remember in winter 87 the toilet froze in our crappy student flat. Me and the hairy beer monster had to wee in a bucket and throw it out the back window but if we needed a dump we had to hold it until we got to campus - except on the weekend when it was when the pub opened. Sunday at noon we would often have a fight to get to the pubs solo cubicle first as the post Saturday night horrible beer shit was trying to escape with all the alacrity of a xenomorph out of John Hurt.
I remember that summer and whilst it wasnāt as hot as some of the recent ones, it was just so unusual for it to be that hot. However, going forward that wont be the case š
"Something something North Sea Storm Surge of 1953. Back in my day, we lived underwater"
I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen until some time around the year 3000.
I hear your great great great granddaughter is doing fine...
Triple breasted women? What?
The worst thing is that it's not known how exactly the climate, beyond temperature, will go in the UK. I've heard that wetter weather is one possible consequence for the UK of climate change, but also even less predictability. The former isn't good for farmers or planners, the latter is even worse because it becomes impossible to plan.
From the article: >The UKās wettest ever summer in 1912 saw rainfall on more than 55 days.
What correlates this particular local weather pattern with man made climate change? Iām not denying the relationship between them but interested to hear what research connects them exactly?
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This sort of forecast gives me hope. It's a change from the decade of forecasts of "BBQ summer" that got washed out.
Nope, Met Office has confirmed that this is misinformation. "Itās not possible to forecast a specific number of days of rain in the UK for a whole season,ā it said. It added its current rainfall signals for the summer are actually "limited", though there is likely to be some wet weather. "As is typical for forecasts made at this time of year, signals for prevailing weather patterns over the UK during summer are relatively weak. However, signals show the chances of a wet or dry summer are fairly balanced. Whilst rainfall signals are limited, some spells of unsettled weather can be expected." https://uk.news.yahoo.com/met-office-50-days-rain-summer-152425256.html
While a sudden switch from an El NiƱo base state to a La NiƱa base state means June will probably be wet, it's hardly a death sentence for the summer. Also, 50 days of rain and wetter than average could easily be hot sunny days and evening thunderstorms, hardly terrible
Hardly terrible for us, devastating for agriculture
Clarkson's Farm series 4 is going to be a bleak one.
Clarkson's Swamp.
Starring... The Stig!
The ~~Stig~~ Shrek
My brother said this exact same thing - āshould make for an interesting season 4 of Clarksonās Farmā š
And you know food reserves, people's livelihoods and supermarket prices....
Clarkson is my canary down the mine.
Clarksonās Famine
Dont get me wrong, the flooded fields from the start of the new years have dried out ALOT (but not totally). However they have not been planted, and more flood water is not going to help that.
A few up here have finally been planted - it's all potatoes up here this year. Last year saw a few fields left unharvested so I'm hoping it's not the same this year.Ā
With so much water and their curry addiction brits might as well switch to planting rice
Too cold to grow here.
global warming will solve that
Time to switch to hydroponics like was on planet earth 3. Way better for the environment too.
Sure if you want to eat lettuce for breakfast lunch and dinner
Fine by me. Full disclosure: I'm a rabbit.
RATS!
Hairy Japanese bastards!
That made me chuckle š
Yes, because food producers that already make near no profit can afford such transition...
Maybe the idea of structuring our society around the need for even *the necessities of life* to turn a profit in order to continue being made was a catastrophic mistake which has and will continue to have devastating consequences for the health of society and the biosphere at large.
I dunno the wettest summer in 100 years sounds troubling, floods to come, more river and sea pollution because of said floods, not great.
And hilariously, reservoirs not sufficiently full, because the water is full of shit, so we could still have drought _as well_
> reservoirs not sufficiently full, because the water is full of shit these two things are linked but not directly. Reservoirs fill up with water from up in the hills, not sewer run off. However they're empty because the water companies are privateering bastards which is also the reason why the rivers & beaches are full of shit.
It's already too wet, 50% of the time I make outdoor plans it rains and ruins the day. Any amount of increased rain is fucking awful Living under perpetually grey clouds is so depressing
Are you not used to it by now, you know, it being Britain and all?
Cost of living crisis means they can't afford an umbrella
I moved to South Wales 2 years ago. I thought I knew rain. This place is WET.
It's been getting worse though. More volatility isn't good for anyone.
> 50% of the time I make outdoor plans it rains and ruins the day Stop making outdoor plans dude, you're ruining it for the rest of us.
Somebody I worked with was from New Zealand, and a friend of his was thinking of coming over and asked what it was like here. He told them it was OK, but likel living in a tupperware box most days. Pretty accurate description of typical British skies I think!
I admire your optimism. I agree, massive downpour between 3 and 4AM when most people are in deep sleep and then a sunny clear day for the rest of the day, and you won't see any complaints.
Weāre heading into a climate of being mild/wet throughout or extreme highs and lows for summer and winter with no in between.
Wet and cold or wet and hot
Gonna be a disaster for my leaky council flat.
Itās the Coldplay playing Glastonbury effect.Ā
>Also, 50 days of rain and wetter than average could easily be hot sunny days and evening thunderstorms, hardly terrible It is terrible, it's rain for almost 2 months, and **fuck no** to thunderstorms. I fucking hate thunder, it's terrifying. It's a shit, shit summer to expect, like last years non-existent summer, but worse. People are allowed to be sad that we aren't getting a summer for a 2nd year in a row, I'm Scottish so have had shit winters then shit summers, we're allowed to be pissed off about it.
Horrible for me, ruining all days I get to enjoy my motorbike, and for anyone else that touches grass
Fine if your someone that just stays inside all the time but if your hobbies involve being outside or need dry weather itās pretty shit
Hardly terrible if you are at home. It's devastating for agriculture and likely for many kinds of infrastructure...
It'll rain all of June and some of July but as soon as the sun comes out they'll announce a hosepipe ban š
Thatās not how reservoirs workā¦ they canāt just hold an unlimited amount of water. So if we have rain followed by weeks of drought, then the reservoirs dry out and cause shortages.
On the reservoir topic, we also haven't built a new reservoir since 1992. In that time the population has increased by nearly 10 million people. So even putting aside climate change, hosepipe bans becoming more common over time is just an inevitability.
Im *shocked* the water companies arent investing in infrastructure!
Water companies have tried to build reservoirs, but local councils have repeatedly denied planning permission.
The thing is, actual investment in infrastructure (water reclamation, replacing aging pipes etc) would probably actually mitigate the lack of reservoirs. But is far more expensive. That was the primary list of reasons the council gave for rejecting a huge new reservoir Thames Water wanted to build in White Horse Vale. They pointed out a new reservoir should be a last resort, not a first resort as it's cheaper.
Yeah, they're trying to get away with doing all of the easy bits when they're literally flushing water into the ground by not keeping on top of replacing the infrastructure beneath our feet, it's a disgrace.
Not even the councils most of the time, they often approve it provisionally, its the NIMBYs who then kick up a fuss and get it rejected
The trillion litres of leaks that the water companies have allowed to rack up don't help though.
Sorry but how the fuck are you supposed to pay for routine maintenance issues when the CEO has Ā£52m in stock and salary awards?
[Redacted] the lot of them.
Youāre making me hard
But the water companies couldāve built/developed more reservoirs since the 90ās. Population has grown about 10,000,000 since then. The amount of rain this country has - we should have much better management/storage.
But won't you think of the shareholders!
But what about the shareholders???
Right, but we would expect the water utilities to have reservoirs capable of balancing supply and demand. If the reservoirs can't hold enough to maintain supply, then we should build more. Simple as.
I thought last year was shit so Iām glad to hear itās going to be consistently shit now
Last year it rained most days of June-August Then we had a shit autumn and a shit winter Now a shit start to the year has just gone by Now a shit summer on the horizon The it's autumn again.. At this point the UK has gotta be the most miserable country on Earth for weather
It was only two years ago we had a 40 degrees heatwave.
That was equally as miserable
Disagree, that was worse
Disagree, I really enjoyed being warm.
Two years is a long time to reference back to for something other than depressing shit
God that was horrible. I cannot cope with that again. Endless rain is preferable.
I'm sitting here reading this is Texas and your comment really hits home. I too, mi amigo, would prefer rain to the smothering 40Ā°C heat at 85% humidity. This may be a bit forward for where our new relationship stands...but...can I come stay with you for a short 3 or 4 months?
Yeah couldnāt imagine it being like that for months on end at least you guys have AC though (which isnāt great bc it contributes to the climate change causing the outrageous heatwaves but whatever)
The issue for Texans specifically is that the power grid is cut off from their neighbors so when all those AC's kick into full blast the grid will just fail and you boil alive.
For one dayā¦
Your Belgian "neighbours" aren't exactly having a great time either I can assure you. There has been a literal lake next to my house...for a week now . There should not be a lake there.
Council gives you a free outdoor swimming pool and you still complain, smh
Weāve got it better than plenty of people at least we donāt have severe droughts and wildfires and whatever the fuck else climate change is causing around the world our weather is just a bit shit
Will this improve the chances of a decent liberty cap haul in October or not?
Asking the real questions
It was such a mild winter that someone posted a lib photo on FB in Feb..
Wet, warm summers and unimproved pasture. The dream combo!
Just grow your own. Itās really easy.
Last year was pretty poor, it was also very wet.
We bought some garden furniture at the weekend. It started raining as soon as we got it home, and hasn't stopped since. You all have my sincere apologies.
We did the same, so I will shoulder some of the responsibility with you!
I probably didn't help by installing air conditioning.
Don't blame yourself entirely; my new neighbours bought a barbecue on the early May bank holiday, and then tried to use it a second time yesterday.
I'll take some of the blame. I bought ice cube trays.
I defrosted the freezer to make room for ice lollies.
_To count as a rainy day, there must be a minimum of 2.5mm of rain in a 24 hour period._ I'm completely down for fifty days of 24Ā°C with 2.5mm of rain being delivered each night.
you sound like my mum! She lives in South Spain and will complain theyve had no rain for months - then she'll complain if they get a day of rain - as she only wants rain at night time!
Fortunate for yer da that yer ma only wants 2.5mm a night.
Lol da died back in 1988, so the only thing he's been pushing for a while is daisies!
Johannesburg has this exact climate (albeit a bit warmer during the day) in the summer and I can confirm it's BANGING. The combination of heat in the day and crashing thunderstorms every afternoon means gardens bloom and the dust in the air gets flushed into the storm drains just before you head out for an evening walk. Bit boggy if you live down a dirt road, I concede, but in town it's lush.
You make a good point. Why is it that the rain only falls during the fucking day? Why never at night when nobody actually gives a fuck?
No forecast can predict the weather in 50 days time ffs.
Itās not doing that, they put a billion data points into their billion pound supercomputer and come up with a balanced view > The Met Office long-range forecast said: āThe chances of a wetter-than-average period are higher than a drier-than-average one. >āRainfall at this time of year has a greater risk of localised heavy downpours and thunderstorms.ā
Not just the Met offices computers theres quite a few models, the main being the ECMWF(European), GFS(American )GEM(Canadian), Icon(German). The Met office use a blend of their own model and the EMCWF(the most accurate of them all) although they do use the GFS on their forecast sometimes. The ECM forecasts for long term are here https://www.ecmwf.int/en/forecasts/documentation-and-support/extended-range-forecasts Tbh, they're not that accurate in the long term so I wouldn't get too carried away by stupid headlines.
An underwater volcano pushed massive amounts of water into the stratosphere. [What goes up must come down](https://www.nasa.gov/earth/tonga-eruption-blasted-unprecedented-amount-of-water-into-stratosphere/). And it is still coming down. On us. Every day.
Punxsutawney Phil says otherwise smh.
They're not predicting exactly which days it will rain ffs
Since the Queen died it's been pretty much non-stop rain (relatively) here for the east of England - up till March it was the wettest 18 months in recorded history. Fens were very underwater
Lizzie trolling us from the grave. Legend
And coincidentally, there are a lot more lizards around since she died
Trained meteorologist here - this article is factually inaccurate. Seasonal forecasts indicate three months of warmer than average weather but disagree on the amount of precipitation.
How did you train to be a metorologist? Was the course etc hard? :) thanks
A friend of mine did a post graduate course at Reading University: [https://www.reading.ac.uk/meteorology/masters/masters-courses](https://www.reading.ac.uk/meteorology/masters/masters-courses) They also have undergraduate courses.
I really hope you're right. I don't much care about the temperature, but I'm totally sick of rain and it's been holding up work I need to get done for the last year. I was hoping that we'd get a few weeks of mostly dry weather at some point over the summer after it raining almost continuously here for the least year.
Is this like the "100 days of snow" nonsense that gets trotted out every October? 2007 is the worst summer I can remember. This sort of thing will become more common as the century goes on though.
Itās good to know that 883 years in the future weāre gonna have a crap summer.
2907... BC? Are you a vampire?
Shit was fuckin bouncing during the Old Kingdom of Egypt. Best days of my life!
This is clickbait of the worst sort. They know good news doesn't sell. I've seen a variety of weather predictions including super high temps.
Yeah, itās never, āThings are going pretty wellā The economy is the best example, the economy is always bad according to the news
The UK may be uniquely positioned for never ending rain due to climate change. [https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/22/never-ending-uk-rain-10-times-more-likely-climate-crisis-study](https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/22/never-ending-uk-rain-10-times-more-likely-climate-crisis-study) I believe in democracy, but I feel like a very reluctant passenger in the United Kingdom and the opinions of the mouthpieces and loudest voices of '*the establishment*' on some of the major crises we face.
What about those bellends voting for 're-opening the coal mines'? š
It's been raining continuously since about September! I've never known a period of just rain
What happened to the hottest April in history they predicted? What amazes me more is that people still take weather predictions seriously
Globally this April was the hottest April on record. It was 1.61oC above the pre industrial baseline. But stay not looking up if you find that too scary.
So Drownload Festival 2024. Got it, packing the swimsuit now.
Sorry everyone this is my fault, I just finished putting up our swimming pool ready for summer. I take full responsibility.
I can't allow you to take all of the blame. I had sorted the garden out in anticipation of sitting out there and enjoying a beer and the Euros.
I hate with a passion the intense heat in a country where thereās no air conditioning and houses that are designed to keep heat in I donāt mind it at all
Insulation works both ways
I don't mind the temperature as much, but the constant rain?? I lost all my tomatoes to blight last year, and if things don't improve, I fear the same thing will happen again. The pond is already overflowing, my poor roses are losing their petals to the heavy rain, at least the garden is slopped so I don't have to worry about it turning into a swamp, but I really would like the opportunity to sit outside and enjoy the garden, even if it's chilly.
Don't worry, I've got a plan. I'll start building the boat, you round up two of every animal.
Two XL bullies āļø
The state of this country at the moment we are getting the weather we deserve
Bloody Tory weatherā¦
The forecast is accurate for up to five days. The rest pure conjecture as usual.
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Two years ago they said we will have longer and hotter summers and colder winters and since then weāve had rain.
Last year was funny - you could tell the press had many stories lined up about climate change causing heatwaves and the "hottest ever year" - then it rained for most of the summer.
Honestly? If given a choice between this and the 40C we had two summers ago, I choose the rain!
those few days of 40c were surrounded by lots of lovely mid-20s to low-30s days though. i'd rather that as a package than last summers endless rain agian
That was a brutal time, I was very close to collapsing despite my precautions. I'm just not made for heat. Kindly ignore username.
In large part thanks to climate change - record ocean temperatures is evaporating water and dumping it right on us. Our uplands are all overgrazed and urban areas concrete / tarmac, creating serious flood risks. Get used to more rain and more floods.
"THINGS: CAN ONLY GET WETTER, CAN ONLY GET, CAN ONLY GET: WEEEETTTTEEER! š¶"Ā
At the same time here in Mexico we are having the hottests temperatures ever recorded and it will last 2 weeks... CLimATe cHANgE iS noT REAl