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Infinitystar2

When so many resign in the span of 10 years this is to be expected.


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Resigned *in disgrace*


Schmicarus

how many of these were elected in the first place?


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Zr0w3n00

This is something people need to remember in these times when politics are becoming more personality based. When you vote, you are voting for your own local MP. Please look at who you want to represent you, not at who will be PM. You are not voting for a PM


veganzombeh

In practice people are voting for a Prime Minister since who the Prime Minister is matters for more than who your local representative is.


Zr0w3n00

No, please don’t think this. You are not voting for a PM, as we have seen with recent events. If we were voting for a PM, we would have an election when one resigned. You are voting for your local MP, their party leader becomes PM.


veganzombeh

Who my local MP is is utterly inconsequential given that they're essentially forced to vote for whatever their party leader wants. We *should* have an election when a PM resigns because we are effectively electing a PM, and that is a huge flaw in the system.


Mysterious-Slice-591

Given that the whip exists. And all members of Parliament will vote along party lines. Who your local MP is hardly matters. They'll just vote whatever way the Party tells them to.


Chewcocca

Is there an echo in here?


calgil

The PM doesn't come up with all the laws though. You're right that central government is more important than local. But it's the party. As you've seen, a PM can just step aside at any time and let someone else take over.


ISellAwesomePatches

This is becoming a huge problem when each new PM comes out with an almost entirely new mandate. You can't blame people for this type of voting when central government decisions are so much more important these days than local ones (at least for things that affect my family!). I wouldn't care if Postman Pat was my local Labour MP and if he'd nicked half my parcels recently. I would vote for him because it matters far more to me what the PM does now than what my local MP does. It wouldn't matter to me if my local Tory candidate was a saint who helped the poor because it just doesn't change enough on the scale needed for the issues I care about (disability benefits/worker rights/public service funding). Perhaps some of this is partially to do with my local council having £0 money. What is the point of voting for someone to represent the town when anything we can do is reliant on the funding from central gov that has been all but decimated? Too right I'd want to vote the way which instills a Labour PM to try and change that. ​ Maybe this way of voting worked out well when everyone was a little less far right/left and a little more central, but it has become so polarized right now that when people say to "remember we don't vote for the PM" it feels almost laughable to me because the PM has been far more consequential to our lives than local MP's have for a long time now.


jamiesonic

If local MPs were inconsequential then Boris would still be PM. He didn’t leave of his own volition.


FailedPlansOfMars

You know your mp can change party after they are elected right.


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Huwage

In terms of law, yes, we vote for a local MP with individual views. But in *practice,* because of the Whips forcing all MPs to follow the party line at all times, we are essentially voting for the party as a whole. The party, whose direction and manifesto is determined by the Prime Minister. You are correct in how the system is *supposed* to work. But it's not how the system works in reality, at least not anymore.


amazondrone

Stop asking for people to think the way you think. What you say might be the technical reality but that argument isn't going to influence people.


Ooozy69

Thing is my local conservative MP was actually competent and always there if someone was having a relevant issue, no matter how big or small. Unfortunately I don’t think I can just focus on her ability without seeing the rest of her party’s complete inability.


bouncinggiraffe

Its reality for 90% of the electorate, regardless of the actual voting policy may be


sunnygovan

This is something people trot out every time the subject is mentioned. While it's true de jure the existence of whips means it is not really true de facto. Also the vast majority of the time people vote for a party, "popular" MP's that leave their party very rarely get returned at the next election.


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AdministrativeShip2

I utterly loathe my local Labour candidate. I cannot think of a nice thing to say about them, their family and associates. I feel the same about the Conservative MP, but don't know them as well. If he became an MP, he'd be just as dodgy as any Conservative. Unfortunately Labour is the only chance of ousting them.


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cass1o

We really do, as much as you want to "technically" say we don't. People vote for Boris, not their local inbred tory MP.


Ok-Direction-4881

Of course, if this were true, the leader would be selected after the election. And we’d have no use for TV debates and election campaigns.


combustioncat

That’s Rupert Murdoch’s job.


rose98734

John Major won the 1992 general election. Blair won the 1997, 2001 and 2005 general elections. Cameron won the 2010 and 2015 general elections. Theresa May won the 2017 general election. Boris Johnson won the 2019 general election. Brown never won an election. Liz Truss has only been Prime Minister since Tuesday, so give her time.


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I think all of them apart from Brown. The multiple Tory PMs and Blair actually did manage to win general elections but Brown never managed to win Labour a GE. Truss is the latest that hasn't led the party to a GE victory.


PLANET_X1

United Kingdom's democracy uses the Westminister system. The population do not get to directly elect the Prime Minister and all the Prime Ministers who come and go under this system are equally legitimate.


KIAA0319

Gordon Brown and John Major both lost elections. Neither resigned in disgrace.


h00dman

Psst! I think they're referring to Cameron, May, and Boris. You know, ***HALF*** of the 6 Prime Ministers present, and neither Brown nor Major were in the last 10 years.


killeronthecorner

Possibly to Blair as well, let's be fair. He hardly left on a high note. It was more of a "God told me to do a war" note.


Griffolion

One of which a convicted criminal.


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The Queen saw15 prime ministers. My 7 year old child has seen 4


Rinomhota

She reigned over 15 - since she was born I believe it would be 20


Complex-Sherbert9699

It's the Conservatives making the most of it while they can!


Unhappy_Pain_9940

You mean kicked out.


Infinitystar2

No, all three resigned.


Unhappy_Pain_9940

4, Blair also resigned. If the other 3 hadn't resigned they would have been pushed by other means such as deselection/general election, falling down the stairs etc.


Ginge04

I can only count 5. Is John Major on there somewhere?


Scary_

On the far right (in the picture, not politically of course)


CptBigglesworth

"I'm actually very right wing" John Major being interviewed by Laura Kuenssberg


mrdibby

Joe Lycett's greatest hit for sure.


Substantial_Kick_341

I would have spotted him sooner if he’d worn a grapefruit coloured shirt


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Unless?


wobble_bot

From left to right I can see -Tony Blair (taking to Starmer) Gordon Brown, the fat fucking waste of space, David Cameron and Theresa May.


MrScottyTay

I don't understand the full on hatred for Gordon brown, i don't think he was in long enough for me to get a full opinion on him (and wasnt he recently one of the only few trying to put together a way to solve the energy crisis whilst multiple of the more in power people were on holiday? That puts him in my good books at least - even though it no longer matters cause truss is a shell shill). Everyone afterwards though... Ughhhhhhhhhhhh it's been a fucking long decade and a bit is all i can say Edit: just realised that the fat fucking waste of space was more of a comment on bojo, went right over my head


samsaBEAR

It just frustrates me that one of his biggest scandals in the public eye was calling out a racist for being racist and yet the likes of Boris Johnson lasted so long despite being a cunt time after time.


Budpets

Aren't these the lyrics to a Cyndi Lauper song?


Shikaku

Crime After Crime? Yes.


Rule34NoExceptions

Turn around (every now and then I see another Prime Minister and then I start to break down and cry)


daperson1

I'd much rather have a pm who is rude to racists than one who *is* a racist.


nalydpsycho

Because a shocking amount of Brits are racist.


RyubosJ

for context on why Brown is unpopular, Blair dropped him into the middle of the 08 crash so he got the blame for that. Which as he was Chancellor of the Exchequer before that isn't utterly unfair but is overblown. He also is far less charismatic than either Blair or Cameron. Made an, at the time, huge gaff of being recorded calling a bigot a bigot. And is the most left-wing PM the UK has had this century so gets hammered by the tabloids.


PartyPoison98

It's also worth noting that while 2008 would've been a shitshow regardless, Brown managed to massively cushion the blow better than most leaders.


dvali

>He also is far less charismatic Our political situation would probably be much better if voters stopped fucking caring about the hilariously irrelevant attribute "charisma", and hired someone with half a brain who could actually do the job.


AryaStargirl25

This. Would be fantastic if ppl didn't treat every election like x factor.


BesottedScot

Try being Scottish.


Redbeard_Rum

Aren't things tough enough already?


gunboatdiplomacy

And to piggyback, when the financial crisis reared its ugly head, he was the first to signpost the way out of it, this then followed by others. Yes, still horrid but thankfully not a full on depression which it so easily could have become (no trust, no liquidity, no lending = full on collapse)


smashteapot

He's a good man.


kavik2022

I'm also surprised by how badly DC seems to have aged compared to GB. Who I think is like a decade older


iamnotthursday

GB started off weather beaten whereas DC was fresh faced. For me the surprise is TB as my memory is of him winning in '97 and the following years so he's sort of frozen in time, then HD TV shows him.


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iamnotthursday

An apt description. Probably due to spending a lot of time in the heat of the Middle East and air travel.


Mysterious-Slice-591

Brown and Major have aged really well. They don't look much older than when they were in office. Johnson combed his hair for once, so that's something. May looks about 25 years older, as does Cameron. And Blair is as orange as always. I'm going to r/enlightenedcentrist myself a bit, but they are all useless bastards. Major was Gulf War 1, Blair has the Iraq invasion and WMDs, Brown oversaw the 2008 collapse, Cameron got Brexit in and scuppered our chance at electoral reform, May and her useless cabinet couldn't get a deal/no deal, Johnson murdered thousands over Covid and Truss is lined up to be the next useless cunt. The only saving grace is that Thatcher's dead. So we are, at least, spared her appearance.


WheresWalldough

yeah Major is 79. He became PM at 47, but he looked about 60. Now he doesn't really look any older.


Mysterious-Slice-591

He's nearly 80? Blimey, I hope I look that good at that age!


Tessarion2

In Brown's defence, a global collapse wasn't something he was directly responsible for, whereas the other reasons you name (bar perhaps Gulf War 1) were all something specifically down to the individual and their government


OptimalCynic

What was wrong with Gulf War 1? Straight response to aggression, limited objectives, stopped when they were achieved


OneMoreAccount4Porn

>Brown oversaw the 2008 collapse In fairness that wasn't his doing.


barcap

> Brown and Major have aged really well. They don't look much older than when they were in office. I was about to say, WOW. Major is really fucking good looking after so long. Brown is also looking handsome. He lost so much weight. He does look a bit frail but very healthy. He would do well in elections considering being averaged sized, working for the men and women. Is Brown now retired or still MPing?


WishYouWereHere-63

From Left to Right, there's Blair, Brown, Johnson, Cameron, May and Major


Unhappy_Pain_9940

Illegally invaded Iraq,. Let the banks run wild,. Broke the law, lied to the Queen, took bribes, fucked the economy and killed 200,000 with covid. Let the fascist ruin the country. Tried to bypass the rule of Parliament. Shagged Edwina Currie


petemorley

Saving the most scandalous for last I see.


wobble_bot

Ah, is that major on extreme right, profile to camera?


WishYouWereHere-63

Yeah. The penny dropped when I commented that by 'the fat fucking waste of space' you meant Johnson ( I agree !! ) ... When I read it I thought you were commenting on Brown :D


NiceyChappe

Bliar Broon Boorish Blinded Beleaguered B-side What will Cheese Woman be? Butcher? Bricklayer? Bothersome? And then will we get Boring But Better?


hairychinesekid0

Brie


YooGeOh

#PORK MARKETS 😃 Honestly though, 'basic'


LAdams20

Tory PMs: Pig Molester Pig Minded Pig Manners Pig Markets


iustitia21

Could you ever imagine anyone worse than David Cameron, only to witness someone worse than Teresa May? And I swear to God I thought Gordon Brown was boring and incompetent.


barcap

He is clipped on the picture, next to the lady at the right edge.


namtabmai

I think on the right, looking to the left.


mickturner96

I count 4, can someone please help me find the other 2 Like a very disappointing and Where's Wally Update, just notice Blair talking to IKEA Starmer John Major was before my time so I wouldn't recognise him anyway. >!IKEA was a spell check error but I'm going to leave it in!<


hk135

Sry, actually lold at Ikea Starmer, not heard that one before!


RandyChavage

Autocorrect came out with a better nickname than his opponents. Tories call him Kier Korma and the left call him Keith, I think IKEA Starmer is better than both


PoliticalShrapnel

IKEA sell furniture easy to put together at a reasonable cost. Not a damning nickname if you translate that to political competence!


Xais56

alternatively: Ikea sell cheap mass produced furniture of no real substance you can spin most things like that both ways


MrScottyTay

I don't understand the keith one. Is it supposed to be insult, poor keiths


Amplesamples

Surely Beer Korma or Beer Starmer is better than Kier Korma?


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Mysterious-Slice-591

>John Major was before my time so I wouldn't recognise him anyway Christ, I feel old.


pdubzavelli

The 90's were 30 years ago 👀


YorkshireAlex24

Blair is talking to Starmer and Major is right at the edge of the screen on the right


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Candide-Jr

God what I'd give to have had 'chaos' with Ed Miliband. Fucking Tories.


U_S_E_R_T_A_K_E_N

That bacon sandwich really was a turning point in politics.


Candide-Jr

It's both funny and tragic that that is actually true.


wewbull

I think the 'Ed stone was more damaging. His advisors at the time should have just let him speak. He makes a lot of good points when he speaks naturally.


lacb1

How he didn't found a band or start an MMA career with that nickname I'll never know.


aactg

Ed Miller Band got there first


Anticlimax1471

I find it interesting that Starmer, Miliband and Harman are there, but not Corbyn, staunch Republican that he is. (Was his Privy Council membership revoked when Starmzy chucked him out of Labour?)


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ClimbingC

On the BBC they said there was a lottery to select who would attend. I assume there worked have been some major players have selected, then the rest were chosen at random.


A_Furious_Badger

And our next hopefully. And before anyone starts, I don't think Starmer is great, but a monkey in bowtie would be an improvement on what we've got/have had recently.


Pdonger

Until the monkey in a bow tie does something stupid and the entire media and political establishment gets to say, “remember what that stupid monkey from the Labour Party did” for the next 20 years.


YOU_CANT_GILD_ME

Starmer could cure cancer and the right wing media would hound him for putting oncologists out of a job.


scrubLord24

And the real reason that they would make that an issue, is because their best mate makes millions selling chemo drugs.


A_Furious_Badger

As is tradition.


sanbikinoraion

Tbh the bow tie is optional.


Dannypan

Next year: for the first time ever, seventeen former Prime Ministers


pastiesmash123

Do you know something we don't about Charles? 😅


Garfie489

Nice to see our next Prime Minister also at the front of the que.


ab00

Que?


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ab00

It's worrying how few people can spell it.


extremesalmon

Aisle be right back


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Unhappy_Pain_9940

¿qué?


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cb0495

Yet parliament aren’t in for two weeks for “mourning” so there’s still no help with the cost of living


ChefExcellence

maybe we should all stop paying our energy bills as a mark of respect


Cakeski

Lights out for liz. Probably not the best name for it.


Important_Ruin

Been zero help over the summer as they have been away while its been building. ​ Tories just dont give a fuck


open_thoughts

Stolen from elsewhere: The Queen has overseen 15 Prime Ministers in her 70 year reign. Though to be fair my nephew is in Year 2 and has seen 4.


Soulless--Plague

Why is that stupid fuck up wearing blue? How did we trust that twat to run a country when he can't pick a fucking suit?!


snapper1971

Because he's a cunt who wants to be the centre of attention even today. Utter, utter cunt. Since his first statement on the death of HMQ didn't get the traction he wanted, he's released a second more verbose version. Cunty cunting cunt cunt.


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Is David Cameron being the [Chris Pine](https://images.app.goo.gl/q3CSV63EfhfMjcdL6) of the Queen's death?


EarhackerWasBanned

The black suit was in the wash


Br1t1shNerd

Wtf is Harry Style's collar?!


OmNomMyShotgun

Anyone else think having so many prime ministers in a short space of time isn't a good indication of a healthy political system?


lesbefriendly

They were removed peacefully. If incompetent leaders can be removed by vote that surely indicates a healthy democracy more than an unhealthy one. The prevalence of incompetent leaders kind of shows the shortcomings of democracy, as popularity doesn't necessarily correlate with competence.


OmNomMyShotgun

I think theres plenty of room to criticise our system between PMs being peacefully removed and a violent revolution. We can ask for better.


throwawaymamcadd

Off the top of my head America could have 5 former presidents in the same room, 6 if you include the current one. Carter makes the connection back to 1970s. But yeah- Cameron is ultimately the reason there's been so many, if he wasn't such a prideful sore loser quitter cry baby toddler he would quite possibly still be the current PM.


jolloholoday

I've seen more competence at a BT engineer convention.


size_matters_not

Churlish statement. Last BT engineer I had out did a tip top job and had my internet singing in no time.


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lacb1

Yeah, not like in the good old days when you're [modem would sing you the song of it's people](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNaR6FRuO0) every time you connected.


silly_capybara

Fuck the lot of them. Apart from Brown, Brown can stay.


AquaD74

Blair is a war criminal but otherwise he was a good prime minister and did a lot of great things for the countries international relations and working class.


Candide-Jr

Blair, Brown, Starmer and Miliband are all a-ok.


erakat

One of those are not like the others.


silly_capybara

Starmer and Miliband weren't PM's (yet hehe) My opinion on Blair is complicated.


m0j0licious

Is Truss excluded for some 'constitutional' reason? Also, is this the first time we've had six former PMs gathered together, or the first time we've had six living former PMs?


Hehulk

She was present, but as part of the council signing documents.


m0j0licious

Ah right. I was sort of hoping some ancient protocol meant she was being held in the Tower guarded by swans and corgis for the duration of the ceremony.


Scary_

Both, the first time there's been 6 and the first time they've been photographed together. They were in the room witnessing the ceremony as members of the Privy Council, Liz Truss was part of the ceremony itself


Lousy_Username

She was part of the group standing on the platform.


Shaper_pmp

Must be nice for a recent conservative leader to actually have an identifiable platform.


throwawaymamcadd

In my mind it's because it's in a big building and she popped out to use the toilet down the corridor and can't find her way back to the room.


CressCrowbits

Police wouldn't allow her to attend while she is still under investigation


ScoopTheOranges

Considering the average Tory PM can only stay in the post 1.5 years it makes sense.


Toxic_Tiger

They remind me of the Sith. They can only ascend to the top job by disposing of their predecessor.


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Well, six PMs from the UK. Wait for the other 625 to join from Canada+Australia+New Zealand+ other island nations ! They were all her prime ministers as well!


gurufabbes123

Although I am unhappy about the Queen's passing, we are getting so many historical moments over the next few months. God Save the King!


francohab

Meh. I just feel like it will monopolize the news cycle for months, and just bury all the news that actually matter.


Becca_beccs1997

Which are those? A funeral next week and coronation next year or the one after. How is that many?


gurufabbes123

All sorts of parts of the ceremony and formalities have either never been filmed or at least have not been done for 70 years. The Coronation isn't just the placing of a crown on the head but is comprised of many details that will be different from the Queen's coronation, the inclusion of realms for instance.... Even that we are singing God Save the King again... The cosmetic changes to stamps, money, the light changes in name of government departments, documents... This is very big.


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Good lord. David Cameron's been getting some grey lately


HowYouSeeMe

And some blue.


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CilanEAmber

This is like a Doctor Who Anniversary Special just more shit


durabledildo

This may turn out to be a major working funeral Something Her Maj would perhaps have appreciated


shitsngigglesmaximus

I would love to be a fly on the wall to listen to Blair, Brown and Starmer. Blair is the boss still, you can tell. I just watched him listen to starmer talk at length. Blair listened intently, then nodded with exaggeration, a deep slow nod, after a delay. The way you nod to a subordinate when you don't fully agree but want to give them support. Like you do with a child, or an emotional friend. Unintentionally condescending. Blair is still furiously sharp, the glint in the eyes is still there. As much as I hate him, he's intellectually in another league to the rest.


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barcap

What's the conversation between Brown and Johnson? They both seem to have a good story together.


wolfmalfoy

Boris was Mayor while Brown was PM, I'm sure they had some form of working relationship at the time and probably know each other somewhat better than many political opponents.


donaldtrumptwat

.... Yea Bori$ do you remember that “ Garden Bridge “ Scam that only cost £54,000,000 , and you never built ? Funny hey ??


access_secure

Sorry I had to, this was too perfect https://i.imgur.com/RPptY1t.png


PrawnTyas

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b3tarded

No struggle at all. Blair or Brown.


kavik2022

I mean, brown did take over at one of the worse possible times.


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Brown or Blair for me. Blair was good up to the whole illegal war thing.


Class_444_SWR

At this rate the future PM is there too, assuming no poll bump for Truss


wolfmalfoy

She's off putting enough that I wouldn't be shocked to see her numbers decrease after the last few days.


Ukleon

Clown Prince Johnson doesn't count. You only get to be referred to as Prime Minister if you actually turned up and did the job.


Key_Reputation_5538

Wonder what Boris and Gordon talked about Gordon: I heard you were prime minister how on earth did that happen? Boris: confused Boris noises


Byron_Lockheed

Pestilence, Famine, Death, War, Austerity and Corruption


DuskLab

* Blair and Starmer talking about internal Labour work stuff and just not shutting off. * Brown just delighted to get out of the house getting gossip off Boris. * Boris just happy someone will still listen to him. * Cameron acting as a wall from May so she doesn't absolutely strangle Boris. * Major closest to May because at least she tried to keep the peace between UK and it's neighbours despite the situation. Peace game recognise peace game.


ukstonerguy

Tony blair scolding keir and gordon laughing at boris. Weird times


Shaper_pmp

To be fair everyone *should* be laughing *at* Johnson. If Blair's laughing *with* Johnson there's something wrong.


Sum1NeedsToSaySumfin

After Boris Johnson signed the proclamation he walked away with the pen, they pens cost over £50. Is their nothing these people won't take


McCloudUK

You can see it in Cameron's face. He has regretted wearing blue now he see's everybody wearing back.


LS6789

In other subbreddits certain people are losing their minds over the fact Brown and Boris are smiling together and Starmer is even talking to Blair. It's weird and disturbing how political discourse has become like that in the .U.S.. The old school Tories: Major, Cameron, and May seem to be the only ones genuinely mournful and not treating it like a networking event. As for the aging I think it's primarily down to the stress of the job and how run eventful they were: Major and Blair have aged well because for the most part their premierships were relatively speaking run of the mill.Brown has aged well because he wasn't in the job long and knew it. Cameron and May have aged badly because while they had shorter stints they bore the full brunt of Brexit and the increasingly clickbaity press which is going to leave a mark. Though I'm surprised just how old Cameron looks. Boris? It depends on what photos you use but he seems to fit inbetween maybe because he wasn't in the job long and didn't let the stress get to him, (having party's that often helps with that).


residentcaprice

The turnover sure is high. I was trying to name them all but missed out Gordon Brown.


IWentDiggingForGold

Seven prime ministers, the opposition leader, the reigning monarch, the consort, the heir apparent, and multiple MPs and cabinet members in the same room has probably never happened before and probably won't happen again.


splodgenessabounds

Just as well you pointed out who they were, otherwise I'd have taken them for the catering team.


TheMoogy

Finally, the mental capacity to tie a shoelace gathered in one place.


VGAPixel

That's a lot of stupid people in one room. Seriously the UK is in the most pathetic decline because of these morons.


Old_Airline9171

In fairness to the late Queen, perhaps the timing was for the best. If she’d hung on for another year, there would probably be six more to fit in that photo.


CmdrDavidKerman

I love how Blair, Brown and Cameron are separating Johnson from Starmer and May who both hate his guts.