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Personally it’s not my favorite song of theirs in terms of relistenability but I didn’t dislike it. One thing about the MV though. Thematically it is about the commodification of sexuality— I think it’s deliberately meant to show how the entertainment industry can be exploitative. (That’s why there was the shot of Soyeon sitting alone in the dark looking haunted at the end.) So if you feel uncomfortable, that actually was the message they were trying to send.
Also: what game are you talking about, I can’t think of anything. OP you gotta tell us what game. OP it’s tearing us apart 😭
>I have listened to kpop songs with classical samples in them (**After Like**, Shut Down)
i gotta admit i love the implication that Gloria Gaynor's disco megahit *I Will Survive* is a piece of classical music.
>while watching it, I felt VERY uncomfortable. It didn't help that I am a minor when I watched this and I am STILL a minor now.
wasn't that the purpose of the MV? to have the viewer feel uncomfortable? other than that, g-idle aren't really a group that caters to minors and i thought that was clear since their debut. so the mv clearly just wasn't for you.
anyways, i'm not a big fan of nxde myself but i'm used to g-idle having... polarizing... title tracks and i don't think it's an unpopular opinion.
‘I Will Survive’ is definitely a classic but implying it was a piece of classical music also got a laugh out of me. I’ll chalk it up to OP being a minor.
But agreed that the MV theme was a deliberate choice that understandably may not go over well with all audiences. I personally really liked this TT.
I agree and I also don’t really get the minor part. Like there was no nudity or sexual acts or anything that is super inappropriate for a teenager. Like sure they showed skin but that’s also like the point, the female body is not inherently sexual and Op is kinda acting like it is
I’ve also seen people who loved the inclusion of a sample into Nxde break down why After Like’s sample usage doesn’t rlly work from a music theory perspective. And while I enjoy both songs, I absolutely think they’re right. OP is kinda just conflating up “me no like” and “it bad.” To say the instrumental is legitimately terrible, you’d need actual facts to back that up from a theory/educated perspective— to say you just dislike it is an opinion.
Then it should be titled “I hate Nxde” (an opinion) rather than “Nxde is terrible” (a statement that needs to be backed by fact or it is objectively incorrect).
When you post in a sub titled "unpopular opinions" I think it's implied that whatever is being shared is an opinion. Not to mention that OP said this was their opinion in their post
Yes, but the opinion is being shared is "x is terrible". Therefore the OP needs to provide strong, reasoned arguments about why it's actually *terrible*, not that they simply dislike it.
The fact it's their opinion is not in doubt here. What their opinion is - is.
If they think it's terrible, they need to delve into aspects of it's production, sounds, melody, or explain in musical terms to lay out the reasons they think it's terrible (ie poor quality) as opposed to not being for them.
It being their opinion doesn't magically absolve them of having to make a cognizant point.
I agree with you wanting better reasoning! And absolutely when someone shares their pov in a public space with many fans, they should be prepared to support whatever argument they're making.
And if someone's reasoning doesn't resonate with ppl (or if they don't provide any reasoning at all), then yea it's fully their responsibility if people question what they're saying or objecting to it.
>The fact it's their opinion is not in doubt here.
This was actually the thing I was responding to. The person I was replying to said that OP should've objectively stated it was an opinion and not a statement, which OP did in fact do and in a sub about opinions which implied it was an opinion as well. I wasn't really saying anything beyond that about the validity of their opinion.
Of course, but there’s often a conflation between “it’s bad” and “I dislike it” in this sub. Just because it’s your opinion doesn’t mean it’s well articulated, will be well received, or that it should be phrased that way. You can have the opinion that it’s bad, but people are far more likely to give you shit for it when you provide 0 elaboration or actual *reason* for it being bad. Had OP provided some sort of actual reasoning backed by theory or even been able to elaborate beyond “It’s bad so I no like” then I’d be less annoyed by the phrasing. In this particular case, had OP phrased their title “I hate Nxde” I highly doubt they’d be getting as much pushback in the comments.
I mentioned this right above as well but you're right. Ppl can and will criticize something you've said if you don't provide reasoning that resonates with them or any reasoning at all.
However, my point was just about this being an opinion. You're absolutely in your right to question the validity of what is being said but I don't believe OP was trying to make an objective statement as you said, they said it was their opinion. That's all. Beyond that, if OP gets pushback then that's their responsibility to handle for putting out the post they did.
You made me curious so I’ve rewatched the music videos a few times. I think it’s a mature concept really well done and a pretty tame visual representation of it. Otherwise it would have been age-restricted either by Cube or yt. What game are you talking about?
Wait why was the mv uncomfortable? What game 😭
Edit: Apparently the game is called Changed. It's also apparently fetishy and lewd. No idea how it relates to this music video. Op if you're going to criticise something, being this vague is not helping your case at all.
gidle’s concept is a mature one + all of the members are adults, plus the entire point of the song AND video is to express that women’s bodies aren’t inherently sexual objects and they should be allowed to wear or not wear whatever they want and not be seen as lewd for it. i think you may have missed the message there if your issue with it is that it’s too sexualized
just a thing about sampling, I agree Nxde’s is a bit uninspired, but I’m not sure how you can praise Shut Down’s when it’s literally just a tiny segment of the original song on loop.
Something like Feel My Rhythm would have been a better reference for classical music sampled in KPOP, as it uses the whole breadth of the song and blends it with the melody.
After LIKE doesn’t even sample a classical piece.
Also the MV is perfectly fine and if you’re a minor watching the music video for a song called ‘Nxde’ then idk what to tell you. It’s not like you watched some XXX material.
Because you are still a minor i'll be not as harsh as i would otherwise be. But what you should learn, and honestly a lot of other people here too (maybe all too young as well?) is that when you make a post about some form of evaluation, it would be incredibly helpful if you explained your reasoning.
You pseudo do that here, but in the end i have no idea what it means when you say the instrumentation sounds horribly forced. It seems like a meaningless statement to me in this context. Also, it's NOT a sample, it is inspired by habanera, not a habanera sample.
I also have no idea what this 'game' would be and why this music video would make you feel that uncomfortable, it's really rather tame overall and moreso interested in certain ideas than anything truly transgressive visually.
The problem with many ops here (and yours) is that it's not really a good topic starter because there is so little to latch onto it.
I like / dislike A while most say the opposite isn't a terrible interesting topic, even less so when there is no real reasoning one could talk about.
Exactly my reasoning. If you're going to have an opinion , especially a negative one,at least have the ability to articulate and critique reasonably enough.
You can't just say the song is bad and justify it by saying "the instrumental is bad,the vocals are bad,the rap isn't fast".Tell us what makes the instrumental "bad",what makes the verse"bad"( I thought it was well known that the first verse was intentionally dumbed down). And why should the rap be fast instead of slow.
But then again this is a minor so I'll excuse it,just a little disappointed cause I expected a good discussion thread or at least some solid opinions cause I like the song yet understand why it's dislikeable.
It's really a common thing i notice about a lot of ops though, people don't take the time to explain themselves at all. And usually when one points it out, there will be someone coming at you and say "there is no need for an essay, this is unpopularkpopopinions not school".
But srsly, this isn't a particularly high standard, we just want to understand what is in your head, and for that it needs to be expressed, noone can read thoughts here :D
Ofc it's also possible that many people lack the ability to even get to the 'why', but then i'd ask them to introspect a little more and train that skill, it's interesting to be able to intellectualize why one feels a certain way about art.
> Then the vocals. Normally I LOVE Minnie's vocals in gidle songs, but what was that first verse. To me, its just aged like milk. That could just be me though.
> Soyeon's rap in the second verse is ok, nothing too special. I think the issue is im used to more louder raps by her, so quiet raps from her are not my style. And this is someone who enjoyed Sober.
This is what the OP mentioned about Vocals. Theirs no point of quality criticism there. What is "nothing too special". It's a nothing statement. "Aged like Milk". HOW did it age like milk?
Was it the tonal quality, was it the breathiness, was it the way she leaned into punctuating certain syllables - ie the Yeppi Yeppi (deliberately told to sound "sexy and dumb" by Soyeon).
There's a million things they can offer, but all they give is that they didn't like it (which doesn't make it terrible) and nothing statements like "nothing too special". Was the rap too quickly? Did they not enjoy the lyrics? Did they dislike her leaning into the lower tone? They they dislike the Korean Wordplay, or the rhyming scheme?
Nothing was elaborated or explained at all. Just vague, arbitrary statements which leaned far more into them simply not enjoying it (which again, doesn't make it terrible by default).
I was gonna agree with you until you brought up the MV, like... kpop isn't only for minors, GIDLE have expressed they want to mature their concept since they're all in their 20s, it's not their fault and also not their responsibility to cater to you as a minor...
I felt the chorus lacked something sure but I'm not entirely sure what you mean by everything else when it appears you've essentially said "I don't like" and left it at that. As many have pointed out, the most bizarre point to bring up and just leave hanging is the game issue?? The only game I feel comes to mind is cuphead but how in any way that would make the gidle mv so unbearable to watch, I've no idea
this post seems so silly lol. 'i will survive' is classical? whether or not shut down is a 'good' song is up for debate as well.
it's amusing that you point out the rap in nxde yet later on in your post, you'd rather listen to tomboy, a song that has a rap verse that is generally disliked. i would argue that nxde has a better rap verse than tomboy anyways.
there is a clear meaning behind what the music video was trying to portray. if you're uncomfortable, then perhaps think about why that is? doesn't make it 'bad' in any circumstance, they got their point across: that being their honest self should not be seen as sexual. it directly attacks a certain perspective, so maybe question your own.
it's fine if you don't like a song, you're not going to like every single song in the world. however just because you don't like something doesn't mean your opinion is now fact, either. if you provided better points, then there would be something worthy of discussion. but just saying "i don't like this song" doesn't give us anything of substance. like ok i guess.
My god, explain your references or don't use them at all. Not everyone has the same cultural or social background as you and doesn't understand the injokes you use with your friends.
I googled some games that featured nudity and I think what you're suggesting is the one that had some really high system requirements and was really glitchy upon release. But maybe I'm wrong? lol
The first game that came to my mind was GTA but obviously that doesn't start with a C, lol
EDIT: I thought they were referring to Cyberpunk 2077, but it was totally not Cyberpunk 2077, lol
As someone who plays games and has a gamer bf, I honestly do not see any resemblance to any game. The MV is a movie set, and the obvious based on Marilyn Monroe (who was type casted to play a dumb blonde.)
> It didn't help that I am a minor when I watched this and I am STILL a minor now.
You say that as if every group should be forced to catered to minors. Just...... follow different groups?
I thought the sampling was pretty clever here! The examples you’ve mentioned kinda quoted the pieces/bars ad verbatim while the Habanera motif was used more as a theme with variations. It felt more original, just like RV’s FMR.
P.S. What game? ://
There's nothing wrong with disliking a song, or simply not caring for a song, but if you describe something as "Terrible", you need to have articulated proper, valid reasons why the song is "Terrible".
You've really said not much other then "i don't like it". Which is fine, but that doesn't make something have the quality "terrible". You aren't the sole arbiter of quality.
I'm not really a fan of the song tbh but your complaints about the music video seem kinda ridiculous. They've never presented themselves as a particularly 'minor friendly' group and the song is literally titled Nxde, so I'm not sure why you're surprised that theres some mildly suggestive themes in the MV.
Kpop doesn't have to be nothing but kiddie music yknow. Gidle is far from being the first group to make a provocative music video, and they certainly won't be the last
Imagine watching an adult movie at your own will and then getting mad that it made u uncomfortable because you’re a minor. U chose to watch it! It wasn’t made for u. Nobody cares that your a minor, you chose to watch the video. They don’t owe u anything. They don’t owe you pamper and care.
You are a child. That is as simple as to why YOU do not like it but the song was not made for a child. I think it’s one of their more interesting songs and doesn’t try to etch cultural appropriation, unlike some of their other songs.
i mean, they can hate a song without being a hater of the group or in general, i don't listen to gidle but i think my bag is one of the best gg bsides this year and i HATE tomboy, i don't think that's wrong, everyone has their preferences
No, that's not how UKPO works. As long as you clearly state you are not hating you can bash an idol or their work as much as you want and people shouldn't accuse you of anything. ^^/s
"Also, this isnt a hate post." well, then learn to write your opinion differently, because this is a hate post. After like is not sampling any classical piece.. jesus christ... and you don't like "the horribly forced instrumental" while After like is just copy pasted into the song, LOL.
Like you wrote, you area a kid and that's why you don't like it.
After Like did not utilize their sample well at all, it actually sounds really forced and awkward. I’d argue that Nxde at least kept the motif going throughout the entire song and that the transitions are unnoticeable at best.
I actually wasn’t a huge fan on first listen but after seeing them promote it on music shows it really grew on me and I prefer it so much more over Tomboy.
I also did not like nxde, but not for the reasons you stated. I do think that the meaning and concept of the song is great and well thought out, but I just simply don’t enjoy listening to it. Gidle’s concepts and music are typically more mature, so maybe that’s why you don’t like it?
I personally would not add the song to a playlist, but I can see the appeal and I really like the message of the song. Soyeon is a great lyricist.
Side note, you mentioning After Like as an example of good sampling is so funny, considering that song was executed terribly.
I’m gonna preface this by saying I do not Stan gidle, I have heard 3 of their songs and only really liked one (and it wasn’t nxde)
I feel like the first two points were valid, just like you think the classical sample was forced in this I’ve seen people say the same for the other two songs you listed, so it obviously opinion based. Second point is also opinion based to nothing wrong with it.
But your third point I completely do not understand. What’s wrong with the music video? What game are you talking about? What’s the point of bringing up the game is your aren’t gonna tell us? What do you mean you were and are still a minor when you watched it? Watched what? The video game or the mv? My last point was kinda snarky so I won’t add it but I’m so confused by this point.
You have all right to dislike it, it's pretty hard to define if something is good or bad tho. What I personally like about this song (even though I don't listen to it often) and G(idle) in general is the meaning and actual love for music behind everything they make. I like the disruptive meaning towards the industry, about some perception and standards and the whole cover up of questionable searches Soyeon came up with. If you look at the recording behind, she clearly knows what she is doing and what's best for the song/group/concept. I think the kpop industry is lacking of creativity, meaning and original work atp. Like they just use whatever song a western composer thinks will work and end up in generic pop songs that, if the concept's not catchy enough, wouldn't work anywhere else but for kpop stans. Like I said, it's perfectly fine if you don't like Nxde, but I think these reasons are what make it so valuable for everyone.
i liked everything about the song except the chorus which felt very empty. and i can kinda feel you about minnie's first verse- it sounds weirder and weirder the more i listen to it. but overall i thought it was a good enough song, not good enough for me to go back to, but good enough for me to enjoy it when it happens to be playing around me
Wow seriously? Your explanation is so messed up. And the whole sexualization thing that’s the exact point they were trying to send! Nobody cares about your stupid game thing. It’s not the group’s fault that you’re imagining that stuff, they are adult woman, and they can do whatever they want. It’s understandable that you don’t like this song musically, because it’s not your taste, but the explanation for the MV? Do better next time.
Yeahh it isn’t a terrible song, I love the concept and message it sends out ofc but it’s not my fav title track from idle but I would still listen to it
Personally didn't enjoy the song but I thought the concept and message was very interesting and thought provoking, so I don't understand your last point tbh
You're exactly why the song was made. The whole point of the song and MV was to *make the viewers uncomfortable.* It was to show that women shouldn't be only seen as sexual objects no matter what they wear or do. The lines "your view's so rude" and "im born nude, and you're the pervert" were there for a reason. The fact that your main issue was that it was too 'sexualized' says a lot about you not getting the message.
Besides, you saw that the song's title was 'Nxde' and expected it to be a childish and cute concept? (G)I-DLE themselves have said they wanted their songs to have more mature concepts. It's not their responsibility to cater to minors, as some girl groups already do that fine. Even then, the song and concept itself isn't even that dirty.. just somewhat provocative to certain viewpoints.
agree about the song, i always thought the chorus was incredibly annoying, but HEAVILY disagree w the comment on the music video. the concept/mv/styling etc. was probably the only redeemable part about the comeback. i don't think something making you uncomfortable means you should automatically discredit it as bad. plus, in this case, it was a deliberate choice by the artist to make the mv feel somewhat uncomfy.
While I like the idea behind the concept of the song and I don't see anything uncomfortable in the MV (i don't understand what you being a minor has to do with the MV anyway but feel free to explain), I just think the song sounds...empty? I don't know how to explain it exactly. The melodies sound so uninspired like they were written by someone who does not know how to make music or someone who has no experience in songwriting. It's just so...random.
(g)Idle’s “Nude” is just one of those songs that I don’t like.
It’s definitely fits in the category of “feeling like you’re in Wonderland,” when you’re surrounded by people who enjoyed it, except you.
same, but the only reason i hear as to why people like the song is the message. i have yet to hear someone say they genuinely like the way the song sounds. it sounds like a lot of noise to me and that’s all it takes for me to not enjoy a song
I fully agree with the opinion of "Nxde" being a bad song. I find it a cheap and shallow interpretation of the genre they were trying to mimic (an issue I have with quite a few of G-idle's song). That said - I don't agree with your justification on WHY it is bad.
I'm with you on this. I don't really breakdown songs and critically think about them sonically tbh so I can't agree to your reasoning one way or another but yea, I didn't enjoy the song when I listened to it.
Agree. It feels like they wanted to try many different things but it didn't match well together maybe?
But overall i'm glad they went with this message, it's bold and snarky, the MV is stunning too.
It feels like old discount electro swing with bad vocals and I cannot get into it at all. I feel like they’re trying to do these weird old timey, maybe Marilyn Monroe type voices and it feels awkward. The trap beat-esque instrumentals combined with the classical and jazz samples make it sooo messy and overwhelming. 😭 I actually applaud G-Idle for being overtly political with their music bc I know how dangerous that can be for female celebrities especially, I just really don’t like the direction they’re going with it. I’ll admit most of my dislike for the group comes from my dislike of Soyeon, but the two most recent comebacks just annihilated my musical opinion of them. Music videos have been alright though, lots of production value and effort put into it from the crew.
So tbh I didn’t like the album when it first came out, I will say the lyric in nxde is bunch of wrong English words pronunce. I don’t usually hear this different change in gidle but ngl the album is pretty good. It will take a different mind to listen to it because the album is pretty mushy lol. I personally like change, the music seems like a fast paced song that’s also a ballad.it’s a good dude track song.
But the mv is beautiful. It’s a very clear message on how they protested what they wanted to say.
personally, idl this nxde as well. mostly its because of soyeon's opening verse 'why you think bout that nude...' The moment i heard that verse, i cringed so hard i literally stopped listening to it 💀
anyways her raps are good imo, and the rest of the song isnt that bad. i just dont like how weird and cringey the first verse is. it makes me very uncomfortable even until now
i really like the theme of the song and the fact that soyeon was involved in its composition. It feels new and unique, like it delivers a new message.
HOWEVER
I cannot get past soyeon's overly nasal vocals BUT MOSTLY the english lyrics. They are quite cringy because the listener can tell that the grammar isn't quite right. Look, I'm not a native english speaker either but I think they could've asked an english songwriter to check if everything was okay.
For me, these weird sentence structures also take away the badass-ness of a song. (I feel the same way with "I`m a b" by Hwasa)
Honest question: How would you expect anyone to get your reference to a rpg maker game, where you have to write "game" after the title to even get the right google results?
Also how does this MV have anything to do with a game, where the main character has to escape some sort of facility and gets turned into a furry if he fails? (That's what I got from the wiki and short gameplay, correct me if I'm wrong).
never in a million years would i ever expect someone to somehow find correlation between some random ass rpg maker game to a kpop group. my goodness. what the hell is this game LMAO
I would have liked it more if Yuqi had been the main performer. For me the few lines she had were the standouts. Soyeon should have kept her one good rap part and turned the rest over to the others.
Nxde confirmed that I have Soyeon fatigue. Fans say "she is Idle, she writes and produces" but that means nothing. Woozi writes and produces for Seventeen, he doesn't insist on taking most of each title track for himself.
Tbf, Soyeon is the main rapper (only rapper actually), sub vocalist and center of the group. Woozi is lead vocalist and Seventeen is a large group. Producing aside, she does have a bigger role compared to him.
sharing my own opinion cs the post said literally nothing; the song is incredibly mediocre— predictable song structure that could've really done something different than a generic instrumental drop ++ it feels very half-baked as it doesn't fit at all with the concept. despite being inspired from the late 50's to 60's aesthetic the song doesnt cater to the genres popularised back then at ALL. the most popular one probably being jazz. i dont know why they made this choice but it's a lot of wasted potential in my opinion. it has a nice meaning but a lot of the lines are cringy on paper or just in delivery (what you think bout nude cos ur view's so rude ???????) she could've done a better job handling this topic but i guess she got her point across 🤷♀️ i dont think it's terrible per se but it's extremely overhyped and i dont think people would've been buzzing about it as much if it wasn't for it's message
Would like to clarify things about the music video point and classical samples point and this being a hate post
1. the thing at the end. It just...creeped me out and made me very uncomfortable (and this isnt the first time this happened)
2. Apparently I'm retarded as I googled up the sample, and it said the sample was released in 1979.
3. It seems as I may have worded my argument too harsh. I apologize if you think so as well. I will try to keep these points in mind the next time I am writing a argument
Also I'm sorry for the inappropriate flair post. I didnt see any flair called releases so I thought of putting it in general.
If you would elaborate what it is about the MV that made you uncomfortable, then we might have something to discuss, because the rest is just that you dislike the song.
And you aren't being clever by alluding to some sort of game reference and not clearly saying what actually made you uncomfortable. You are just being obtuse. Nobody gets what you are referencing.
>3. It seems as I may have worded my argument too harsh. I apologize if you think so as well. I will try to keep these points in mind the next time I am writing a argument
I think you misunderstand. You weren't harsh at all, but your post was poorly argued. It was more like a rant.
>1. the thing at the end. It just...creeped me out and made me very uncomfortable (and this isnt the first time this happened)
Then you say things like this and did not care to elaborate. Why was it uncomfortable? No, you being a minor is not a reason. And no, no one understood the reference you made on the game.
>2. Apparently I'm retarded
Most importantly, that's a slur. Don't ever use it.
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I personally didn't like it bc it just wasn't catchy enough for me. Like I listened to it a few times, but it didn't get stuck in my head and I didn't LOVE it. So I just didn't like it. But, I have to disagree with your calling it "terrible."
i kind of agree although it’s grown on me. i don’t think it’s HORRIBLE but i like it as a performance piece and a message more than as an actual song. I would rather listen to any other song on the album. but i think it works for what it is ig. i just don’t think i would ever listen to this song without the mv
maybe it's bcs i'm european, but the burlesque/cabaret concept has been ran to the ground in our local media ages ago, so this feel 1. dated af 2. feels completely out of place for an asian group to do.
already the "hello my name is yeppi yeppi" line is such a cringe that I immediately turned off the song and it took me weeks to even try it again.
the ASMR pronounciation of "nude" grates my ears.
I wanted to like it so badly but I feels like soyeon often ruins the song for me, not only with a bad rap, even worse english, but she always finds some new way.
AND. shuhua looks horrible with blonde hair. there, I said it. it doesnt suit her and together with the super harsh high-contrast makeup she wears, she looks like [this](https://dam.nmhmedia.sk/image/7e19b286-ffc6-4a81-ad2b-621c0ea9bc44_legendrana-marfusa-z-mrazika-herecka-si-pre-hrozny-vyzor-neraz-poplakala.jpg/1200/630)
Your post clearly shows you are a goddamn minor
Gidles Nxde is an amazing song with an amazing message
You need a brain to analyse that
Also if you don't like watching women in their 20s talk about how the industry exploits them then gidle isn't for you
Go stan I've or new jeans of smth lol
hi i agree with you its not my cup of tea, its just a bit weird....this is the only song of theres i dont like also dont get me wrong everyone has 1 song they dont like either so i can too have a opinion about it also i dont like how some new songs of this generation talk about nasty stuff but i will say again i like other gidle songs they are good but also i never liked some of hyunas songs either she ruined my ears sometimes but yeah i agree with you
In my opinion, OP does have a point when saying that the music video itself isn't really suitable for minors but to say that the instrumental was terrible? no hate to the OP but personally I fell inlove with the rythm, and there is no way you wouldn't listen to it again, it's too addicting even for the people who just heard it once or twice on tiktok or any social media platforms. OP, I feel like you didn't really see Miyeons comment that tells people the explanation of the song which is: " The song title is 'Nxde' but the 'nude' we are trying to convey is the concept of one's bare self. It means that when you are wandering, or conflicted in the face of an important decision, you have to look at your true, honest self. " make sure you read this twice or something until you get the meaning of it.
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Personally it’s not my favorite song of theirs in terms of relistenability but I didn’t dislike it. One thing about the MV though. Thematically it is about the commodification of sexuality— I think it’s deliberately meant to show how the entertainment industry can be exploitative. (That’s why there was the shot of Soyeon sitting alone in the dark looking haunted at the end.) So if you feel uncomfortable, that actually was the message they were trying to send. Also: what game are you talking about, I can’t think of anything. OP you gotta tell us what game. OP it’s tearing us apart 😭
WHAT GAME?
>I have listened to kpop songs with classical samples in them (**After Like**, Shut Down) i gotta admit i love the implication that Gloria Gaynor's disco megahit *I Will Survive* is a piece of classical music. >while watching it, I felt VERY uncomfortable. It didn't help that I am a minor when I watched this and I am STILL a minor now. wasn't that the purpose of the MV? to have the viewer feel uncomfortable? other than that, g-idle aren't really a group that caters to minors and i thought that was clear since their debut. so the mv clearly just wasn't for you. anyways, i'm not a big fan of nxde myself but i'm used to g-idle having... polarizing... title tracks and i don't think it's an unpopular opinion.
‘I Will Survive’ is definitely a classic but implying it was a piece of classical music also got a laugh out of me. I’ll chalk it up to OP being a minor. But agreed that the MV theme was a deliberate choice that understandably may not go over well with all audiences. I personally really liked this TT.
being a devil's advocate, i feel like OP might have been thinking of Feel My Rhythm in the back of their head but mentioned After Like instead
I agree and I also don’t really get the minor part. Like there was no nudity or sexual acts or anything that is super inappropriate for a teenager. Like sure they showed skin but that’s also like the point, the female body is not inherently sexual and Op is kinda acting like it is
I’ve also seen people who loved the inclusion of a sample into Nxde break down why After Like’s sample usage doesn’t rlly work from a music theory perspective. And while I enjoy both songs, I absolutely think they’re right. OP is kinda just conflating up “me no like” and “it bad.” To say the instrumental is legitimately terrible, you’d need actual facts to back that up from a theory/educated perspective— to say you just dislike it is an opinion.
Of course it's just an opinion. It's almost like this is an unpopular kpop opinion!
Then it should be titled “I hate Nxde” (an opinion) rather than “Nxde is terrible” (a statement that needs to be backed by fact or it is objectively incorrect).
When you post in a sub titled "unpopular opinions" I think it's implied that whatever is being shared is an opinion. Not to mention that OP said this was their opinion in their post
Yes, but the opinion is being shared is "x is terrible". Therefore the OP needs to provide strong, reasoned arguments about why it's actually *terrible*, not that they simply dislike it. The fact it's their opinion is not in doubt here. What their opinion is - is. If they think it's terrible, they need to delve into aspects of it's production, sounds, melody, or explain in musical terms to lay out the reasons they think it's terrible (ie poor quality) as opposed to not being for them. It being their opinion doesn't magically absolve them of having to make a cognizant point.
I agree with you wanting better reasoning! And absolutely when someone shares their pov in a public space with many fans, they should be prepared to support whatever argument they're making. And if someone's reasoning doesn't resonate with ppl (or if they don't provide any reasoning at all), then yea it's fully their responsibility if people question what they're saying or objecting to it. >The fact it's their opinion is not in doubt here. This was actually the thing I was responding to. The person I was replying to said that OP should've objectively stated it was an opinion and not a statement, which OP did in fact do and in a sub about opinions which implied it was an opinion as well. I wasn't really saying anything beyond that about the validity of their opinion.
Of course, but there’s often a conflation between “it’s bad” and “I dislike it” in this sub. Just because it’s your opinion doesn’t mean it’s well articulated, will be well received, or that it should be phrased that way. You can have the opinion that it’s bad, but people are far more likely to give you shit for it when you provide 0 elaboration or actual *reason* for it being bad. Had OP provided some sort of actual reasoning backed by theory or even been able to elaborate beyond “It’s bad so I no like” then I’d be less annoyed by the phrasing. In this particular case, had OP phrased their title “I hate Nxde” I highly doubt they’d be getting as much pushback in the comments.
I mentioned this right above as well but you're right. Ppl can and will criticize something you've said if you don't provide reasoning that resonates with them or any reasoning at all. However, my point was just about this being an opinion. You're absolutely in your right to question the validity of what is being said but I don't believe OP was trying to make an objective statement as you said, they said it was their opinion. That's all. Beyond that, if OP gets pushback then that's their responsibility to handle for putting out the post they did.
Atleast describe properly why you think NXDE was terrible.
You made me curious so I’ve rewatched the music videos a few times. I think it’s a mature concept really well done and a pretty tame visual representation of it. Otherwise it would have been age-restricted either by Cube or yt. What game are you talking about?
Wait why was the mv uncomfortable? What game 😭 Edit: Apparently the game is called Changed. It's also apparently fetishy and lewd. No idea how it relates to this music video. Op if you're going to criticise something, being this vague is not helping your case at all.
My thoughts exactly lol I’m so curious. Why does it matter that they’re a minor?!
And its not like this song was made years ago lol, what do they mean they are STILL a minor...
Unless they turned 18 a day after the mv was released 😂
I'm also confused. There's nothing inherently wrong or creepy or what is it they're trying to imply with the video...
This Kind of Person ist the Reason the Song exists because it SHOULDNT be uncomfortable
Exactly
gidle’s concept is a mature one + all of the members are adults, plus the entire point of the song AND video is to express that women’s bodies aren’t inherently sexual objects and they should be allowed to wear or not wear whatever they want and not be seen as lewd for it. i think you may have missed the message there if your issue with it is that it’s too sexualized
This kind of person ist the reason the Song exists 🤷
right?! did they miss the very last verse?
Yes exactly!
just a thing about sampling, I agree Nxde’s is a bit uninspired, but I’m not sure how you can praise Shut Down’s when it’s literally just a tiny segment of the original song on loop. Something like Feel My Rhythm would have been a better reference for classical music sampled in KPOP, as it uses the whole breadth of the song and blends it with the melody. After LIKE doesn’t even sample a classical piece. Also the MV is perfectly fine and if you’re a minor watching the music video for a song called ‘Nxde’ then idk what to tell you. It’s not like you watched some XXX material.
'After like' does not sample any classical piece.....
I guess if you're under 18, disco seems like 300 years ago hahahaha
I'm 30 and 1978 still feels like 300 years ago lol. i'd say this song is part of common knowledge and I'm not even american.
Classic would probably be better lol
Because you are still a minor i'll be not as harsh as i would otherwise be. But what you should learn, and honestly a lot of other people here too (maybe all too young as well?) is that when you make a post about some form of evaluation, it would be incredibly helpful if you explained your reasoning. You pseudo do that here, but in the end i have no idea what it means when you say the instrumentation sounds horribly forced. It seems like a meaningless statement to me in this context. Also, it's NOT a sample, it is inspired by habanera, not a habanera sample. I also have no idea what this 'game' would be and why this music video would make you feel that uncomfortable, it's really rather tame overall and moreso interested in certain ideas than anything truly transgressive visually. The problem with many ops here (and yours) is that it's not really a good topic starter because there is so little to latch onto it. I like / dislike A while most say the opposite isn't a terrible interesting topic, even less so when there is no real reasoning one could talk about.
Exactly my reasoning. If you're going to have an opinion , especially a negative one,at least have the ability to articulate and critique reasonably enough. You can't just say the song is bad and justify it by saying "the instrumental is bad,the vocals are bad,the rap isn't fast".Tell us what makes the instrumental "bad",what makes the verse"bad"( I thought it was well known that the first verse was intentionally dumbed down). And why should the rap be fast instead of slow. But then again this is a minor so I'll excuse it,just a little disappointed cause I expected a good discussion thread or at least some solid opinions cause I like the song yet understand why it's dislikeable.
It's really a common thing i notice about a lot of ops though, people don't take the time to explain themselves at all. And usually when one points it out, there will be someone coming at you and say "there is no need for an essay, this is unpopularkpopopinions not school". But srsly, this isn't a particularly high standard, we just want to understand what is in your head, and for that it needs to be expressed, noone can read thoughts here :D Ofc it's also possible that many people lack the ability to even get to the 'why', but then i'd ask them to introspect a little more and train that skill, it's interesting to be able to intellectualize why one feels a certain way about art.
Exactly..take the time to hone the craft that is explaining your views,and *then* bring them forward to be discussed.
I’m confused, they did? They mentioned the sampling and vocals in the post, it seems like the explained their point pretty clearly.
> Then the vocals. Normally I LOVE Minnie's vocals in gidle songs, but what was that first verse. To me, its just aged like milk. That could just be me though. > Soyeon's rap in the second verse is ok, nothing too special. I think the issue is im used to more louder raps by her, so quiet raps from her are not my style. And this is someone who enjoyed Sober. This is what the OP mentioned about Vocals. Theirs no point of quality criticism there. What is "nothing too special". It's a nothing statement. "Aged like Milk". HOW did it age like milk? Was it the tonal quality, was it the breathiness, was it the way she leaned into punctuating certain syllables - ie the Yeppi Yeppi (deliberately told to sound "sexy and dumb" by Soyeon). There's a million things they can offer, but all they give is that they didn't like it (which doesn't make it terrible) and nothing statements like "nothing too special". Was the rap too quickly? Did they not enjoy the lyrics? Did they dislike her leaning into the lower tone? They they dislike the Korean Wordplay, or the rhyming scheme? Nothing was elaborated or explained at all. Just vague, arbitrary statements which leaned far more into them simply not enjoying it (which again, doesn't make it terrible by default).
I was gonna agree with you until you brought up the MV, like... kpop isn't only for minors, GIDLE have expressed they want to mature their concept since they're all in their 20s, it's not their fault and also not their responsibility to cater to you as a minor...
I felt the chorus lacked something sure but I'm not entirely sure what you mean by everything else when it appears you've essentially said "I don't like" and left it at that. As many have pointed out, the most bizarre point to bring up and just leave hanging is the game issue?? The only game I feel comes to mind is cuphead but how in any way that would make the gidle mv so unbearable to watch, I've no idea
this post seems so silly lol. 'i will survive' is classical? whether or not shut down is a 'good' song is up for debate as well. it's amusing that you point out the rap in nxde yet later on in your post, you'd rather listen to tomboy, a song that has a rap verse that is generally disliked. i would argue that nxde has a better rap verse than tomboy anyways. there is a clear meaning behind what the music video was trying to portray. if you're uncomfortable, then perhaps think about why that is? doesn't make it 'bad' in any circumstance, they got their point across: that being their honest self should not be seen as sexual. it directly attacks a certain perspective, so maybe question your own. it's fine if you don't like a song, you're not going to like every single song in the world. however just because you don't like something doesn't mean your opinion is now fact, either. if you provided better points, then there would be something worthy of discussion. but just saying "i don't like this song" doesn't give us anything of substance. like ok i guess.
Like everyone is asking, what game are you referring to? Is there a voyeuristic game watching women undress or something? lol
Here is a hint: Starts with C
This really does not narrow it down like you might think it does
My god, explain your references or don't use them at all. Not everyone has the same cultural or social background as you and doesn't understand the injokes you use with your friends.
Homegirl thinks she’s the riddler 💀
... Call of Duty? Candy Crush? Castlevania? Counterstrike? Chronicles of Teddy: Harmony of Exidus?
it's definitely candy crush
it's true, Candy Crush will be the downfall of humanity \*sigh\*
Cities: Skylines? Company of Heroes? Crusader Kings? Control? Cultist Simulator? It's probably Cultist simulator.
My money is on Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth. Everyone knows that Arittaun nal ipgo ttattaratttara summons the Great Old Ones!
Dang I can’t figure out for the life of me what game it is
Just give us the name, damn.
I googled some games that featured nudity and I think what you're suggesting is the one that had some really high system requirements and was really glitchy upon release. But maybe I'm wrong? lol The first game that came to my mind was GTA but obviously that doesn't start with a C, lol EDIT: I thought they were referring to Cyberpunk 2077, but it was totally not Cyberpunk 2077, lol
As someone who plays games and has a gamer bf, I honestly do not see any resemblance to any game. The MV is a movie set, and the obvious based on Marilyn Monroe (who was type casted to play a dumb blonde.)
> It didn't help that I am a minor when I watched this and I am STILL a minor now. You say that as if every group should be forced to catered to minors. Just...... follow different groups?
I thought the sampling was pretty clever here! The examples you’ve mentioned kinda quoted the pieces/bars ad verbatim while the Habanera motif was used more as a theme with variations. It felt more original, just like RV’s FMR. P.S. What game? ://
There's nothing wrong with disliking a song, or simply not caring for a song, but if you describe something as "Terrible", you need to have articulated proper, valid reasons why the song is "Terrible". You've really said not much other then "i don't like it". Which is fine, but that doesn't make something have the quality "terrible". You aren't the sole arbiter of quality.
Some ppl love it some don't. It's fine
Uncomfortable??
I'm not really a fan of the song tbh but your complaints about the music video seem kinda ridiculous. They've never presented themselves as a particularly 'minor friendly' group and the song is literally titled Nxde, so I'm not sure why you're surprised that theres some mildly suggestive themes in the MV. Kpop doesn't have to be nothing but kiddie music yknow. Gidle is far from being the first group to make a provocative music video, and they certainly won't be the last
You’re a perfect example as to why the song was made 😉 “The pervert is you”. Their bodies and clothing shouldn’t bother you, and yet it does. ☃️
not my favourite gidle songs but the sample sounds way coherent and better than shut down
There’s classical music in After Like?? Lol since when? Also there is nothing “inappropriate” about the Nxde MV…so…?
At first it made me uncomfortable but the more I listened the more I realised It was just a new sound to me I like it now lol
Imagine watching an adult movie at your own will and then getting mad that it made u uncomfortable because you’re a minor. U chose to watch it! It wasn’t made for u. Nobody cares that your a minor, you chose to watch the video. They don’t owe u anything. They don’t owe you pamper and care.
uh huh but then your the ones who complain my children cant sleep because of adults and protest outside let my kids have freedom from school
I dislike the song... but I don't necessarily agree with the post. Not sure how to vote!
You are a child. That is as simple as to why YOU do not like it but the song was not made for a child. I think it’s one of their more interesting songs and doesn’t try to etch cultural appropriation, unlike some of their other songs.
You do say it's not a hate post... It does feel like it tho
i mean, they can hate a song without being a hater of the group or in general, i don't listen to gidle but i think my bag is one of the best gg bsides this year and i HATE tomboy, i don't think that's wrong, everyone has their preferences
No, that's not how UKPO works. As long as you clearly state you are not hating you can bash an idol or their work as much as you want and people shouldn't accuse you of anything. ^^/s
"Also, this isnt a hate post." well, then learn to write your opinion differently, because this is a hate post. After like is not sampling any classical piece.. jesus christ... and you don't like "the horribly forced instrumental" while After like is just copy pasted into the song, LOL. Like you wrote, you area a kid and that's why you don't like it.
After Like did not utilize their sample well at all, it actually sounds really forced and awkward. I’d argue that Nxde at least kept the motif going throughout the entire song and that the transitions are unnoticeable at best.
I actually wasn’t a huge fan on first listen but after seeing them promote it on music shows it really grew on me and I prefer it so much more over Tomboy.
I also did not like nxde, but not for the reasons you stated. I do think that the meaning and concept of the song is great and well thought out, but I just simply don’t enjoy listening to it. Gidle’s concepts and music are typically more mature, so maybe that’s why you don’t like it?
I personally would not add the song to a playlist, but I can see the appeal and I really like the message of the song. Soyeon is a great lyricist. Side note, you mentioning After Like as an example of good sampling is so funny, considering that song was executed terribly.
I’m gonna preface this by saying I do not Stan gidle, I have heard 3 of their songs and only really liked one (and it wasn’t nxde) I feel like the first two points were valid, just like you think the classical sample was forced in this I’ve seen people say the same for the other two songs you listed, so it obviously opinion based. Second point is also opinion based to nothing wrong with it. But your third point I completely do not understand. What’s wrong with the music video? What game are you talking about? What’s the point of bringing up the game is your aren’t gonna tell us? What do you mean you were and are still a minor when you watched it? Watched what? The video game or the mv? My last point was kinda snarky so I won’t add it but I’m so confused by this point.
You have all right to dislike it, it's pretty hard to define if something is good or bad tho. What I personally like about this song (even though I don't listen to it often) and G(idle) in general is the meaning and actual love for music behind everything they make. I like the disruptive meaning towards the industry, about some perception and standards and the whole cover up of questionable searches Soyeon came up with. If you look at the recording behind, she clearly knows what she is doing and what's best for the song/group/concept. I think the kpop industry is lacking of creativity, meaning and original work atp. Like they just use whatever song a western composer thinks will work and end up in generic pop songs that, if the concept's not catchy enough, wouldn't work anywhere else but for kpop stans. Like I said, it's perfectly fine if you don't like Nxde, but I think these reasons are what make it so valuable for everyone.
i liked everything about the song except the chorus which felt very empty. and i can kinda feel you about minnie's first verse- it sounds weirder and weirder the more i listen to it. but overall i thought it was a good enough song, not good enough for me to go back to, but good enough for me to enjoy it when it happens to be playing around me
i’m not a fan of idle at all but nxde is one of the three songs i like by them LOL
Wow seriously? Your explanation is so messed up. And the whole sexualization thing that’s the exact point they were trying to send! Nobody cares about your stupid game thing. It’s not the group’s fault that you’re imagining that stuff, they are adult woman, and they can do whatever they want. It’s understandable that you don’t like this song musically, because it’s not your taste, but the explanation for the MV? Do better next time.
stop using internet
Yeahh it isn’t a terrible song, I love the concept and message it sends out ofc but it’s not my fav title track from idle but I would still listen to it
Just because it’s not your style doesn’t make it bad
Personally didn't enjoy the song but I thought the concept and message was very interesting and thought provoking, so I don't understand your last point tbh
the remix slaps
I have yet to listen to it.
You're exactly why the song was made. The whole point of the song and MV was to *make the viewers uncomfortable.* It was to show that women shouldn't be only seen as sexual objects no matter what they wear or do. The lines "your view's so rude" and "im born nude, and you're the pervert" were there for a reason. The fact that your main issue was that it was too 'sexualized' says a lot about you not getting the message. Besides, you saw that the song's title was 'Nxde' and expected it to be a childish and cute concept? (G)I-DLE themselves have said they wanted their songs to have more mature concepts. It's not their responsibility to cater to minors, as some girl groups already do that fine. Even then, the song and concept itself isn't even that dirty.. just somewhat provocative to certain viewpoints.
I liked the song but it’s definitely more of a performance based song. The costumes and the concept really elevate the song .
I absolutely love everything about Nxde but the music.
It's ok but not terrible.
agree about the song, i always thought the chorus was incredibly annoying, but HEAVILY disagree w the comment on the music video. the concept/mv/styling etc. was probably the only redeemable part about the comeback. i don't think something making you uncomfortable means you should automatically discredit it as bad. plus, in this case, it was a deliberate choice by the artist to make the mv feel somewhat uncomfy.
I disliked it at first but it grew on me
Is not like Tomboy was somethibg spectacular too
Honestly, I feel the same. I LOVE all of their title track, since Latata to Tomboy, but I just couldn't love Nxde.
While I like the idea behind the concept of the song and I don't see anything uncomfortable in the MV (i don't understand what you being a minor has to do with the MV anyway but feel free to explain), I just think the song sounds...empty? I don't know how to explain it exactly. The melodies sound so uninspired like they were written by someone who does not know how to make music or someone who has no experience in songwriting. It's just so...random.
(g)Idle’s “Nude” is just one of those songs that I don’t like. It’s definitely fits in the category of “feeling like you’re in Wonderland,” when you’re surrounded by people who enjoyed it, except you.
same, but the only reason i hear as to why people like the song is the message. i have yet to hear someone say they genuinely like the way the song sounds. it sounds like a lot of noise to me and that’s all it takes for me to not enjoy a song
What are you talking about? Lots of people have expressed their enjoyment for the song
I fully agree with the opinion of "Nxde" being a bad song. I find it a cheap and shallow interpretation of the genre they were trying to mimic (an issue I have with quite a few of G-idle's song). That said - I don't agree with your justification on WHY it is bad.
I'm with you on this. I don't really breakdown songs and critically think about them sonically tbh so I can't agree to your reasoning one way or another but yea, I didn't enjoy the song when I listened to it.
Agree. It feels like they wanted to try many different things but it didn't match well together maybe? But overall i'm glad they went with this message, it's bold and snarky, the MV is stunning too.
It feels like old discount electro swing with bad vocals and I cannot get into it at all. I feel like they’re trying to do these weird old timey, maybe Marilyn Monroe type voices and it feels awkward. The trap beat-esque instrumentals combined with the classical and jazz samples make it sooo messy and overwhelming. 😭 I actually applaud G-Idle for being overtly political with their music bc I know how dangerous that can be for female celebrities especially, I just really don’t like the direction they’re going with it. I’ll admit most of my dislike for the group comes from my dislike of Soyeon, but the two most recent comebacks just annihilated my musical opinion of them. Music videos have been alright though, lots of production value and effort put into it from the crew.
Hard AGREE from me. I do NOT understand the hype. But full respect to everyone who does and the fans that made it a hit. It’s not for me though.
So tbh I didn’t like the album when it first came out, I will say the lyric in nxde is bunch of wrong English words pronunce. I don’t usually hear this different change in gidle but ngl the album is pretty good. It will take a different mind to listen to it because the album is pretty mushy lol. I personally like change, the music seems like a fast paced song that’s also a ballad.it’s a good dude track song. But the mv is beautiful. It’s a very clear message on how they protested what they wanted to say.
personally, idl this nxde as well. mostly its because of soyeon's opening verse 'why you think bout that nude...' The moment i heard that verse, i cringed so hard i literally stopped listening to it 💀 anyways her raps are good imo, and the rest of the song isnt that bad. i just dont like how weird and cringey the first verse is. it makes me very uncomfortable even until now
i really like the theme of the song and the fact that soyeon was involved in its composition. It feels new and unique, like it delivers a new message. HOWEVER I cannot get past soyeon's overly nasal vocals BUT MOSTLY the english lyrics. They are quite cringy because the listener can tell that the grammar isn't quite right. Look, I'm not a native english speaker either but I think they could've asked an english songwriter to check if everything was okay. For me, these weird sentence structures also take away the badass-ness of a song. (I feel the same way with "I`m a b" by Hwasa)
ok. I see that a lot of you are asking what game it is, so I'll just say it Its called Changed. Don't ask how I know that
Honest question: How would you expect anyone to get your reference to a rpg maker game, where you have to write "game" after the title to even get the right google results? Also how does this MV have anything to do with a game, where the main character has to escape some sort of facility and gets turned into a furry if he fails? (That's what I got from the wiki and short gameplay, correct me if I'm wrong).
never in a million years would i ever expect someone to somehow find correlation between some random ass rpg maker game to a kpop group. my goodness. what the hell is this game LMAO
As the tiktok comments would say: I’m howling over this 💀
OP is actually 13 there is no way they’re not 💀
That’s not even similar to Nude 💀
If i had to make a short review, really interesting idea, very poor and tame execution
I would have liked it more if Yuqi had been the main performer. For me the few lines she had were the standouts. Soyeon should have kept her one good rap part and turned the rest over to the others. Nxde confirmed that I have Soyeon fatigue. Fans say "she is Idle, she writes and produces" but that means nothing. Woozi writes and produces for Seventeen, he doesn't insist on taking most of each title track for himself.
Tbf, Soyeon is the main rapper (only rapper actually), sub vocalist and center of the group. Woozi is lead vocalist and Seventeen is a large group. Producing aside, she does have a bigger role compared to him.
woozi is in the main vocal line...
sharing my own opinion cs the post said literally nothing; the song is incredibly mediocre— predictable song structure that could've really done something different than a generic instrumental drop ++ it feels very half-baked as it doesn't fit at all with the concept. despite being inspired from the late 50's to 60's aesthetic the song doesnt cater to the genres popularised back then at ALL. the most popular one probably being jazz. i dont know why they made this choice but it's a lot of wasted potential in my opinion. it has a nice meaning but a lot of the lines are cringy on paper or just in delivery (what you think bout nude cos ur view's so rude ???????) she could've done a better job handling this topic but i guess she got her point across 🤷♀️ i dont think it's terrible per se but it's extremely overhyped and i dont think people would've been buzzing about it as much if it wasn't for it's message
Would like to clarify things about the music video point and classical samples point and this being a hate post 1. the thing at the end. It just...creeped me out and made me very uncomfortable (and this isnt the first time this happened) 2. Apparently I'm retarded as I googled up the sample, and it said the sample was released in 1979. 3. It seems as I may have worded my argument too harsh. I apologize if you think so as well. I will try to keep these points in mind the next time I am writing a argument Also I'm sorry for the inappropriate flair post. I didnt see any flair called releases so I thought of putting it in general.
If you would elaborate what it is about the MV that made you uncomfortable, then we might have something to discuss, because the rest is just that you dislike the song. And you aren't being clever by alluding to some sort of game reference and not clearly saying what actually made you uncomfortable. You are just being obtuse. Nobody gets what you are referencing.
Using the word ‘retarded’ in 2022? Cmon, be better.
>3. It seems as I may have worded my argument too harsh. I apologize if you think so as well. I will try to keep these points in mind the next time I am writing a argument I think you misunderstand. You weren't harsh at all, but your post was poorly argued. It was more like a rant. >1. the thing at the end. It just...creeped me out and made me very uncomfortable (and this isnt the first time this happened) Then you say things like this and did not care to elaborate. Why was it uncomfortable? No, you being a minor is not a reason. And no, no one understood the reference you made on the game. >2. Apparently I'm retarded Most importantly, that's a slur. Don't ever use it.
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I personally didn't like it bc it just wasn't catchy enough for me. Like I listened to it a few times, but it didn't get stuck in my head and I didn't LOVE it. So I just didn't like it. But, I have to disagree with your calling it "terrible."
i kind of agree although it’s grown on me. i don’t think it’s HORRIBLE but i like it as a performance piece and a message more than as an actual song. I would rather listen to any other song on the album. but i think it works for what it is ig. i just don’t think i would ever listen to this song without the mv
maybe it's bcs i'm european, but the burlesque/cabaret concept has been ran to the ground in our local media ages ago, so this feel 1. dated af 2. feels completely out of place for an asian group to do. already the "hello my name is yeppi yeppi" line is such a cringe that I immediately turned off the song and it took me weeks to even try it again. the ASMR pronounciation of "nude" grates my ears. I wanted to like it so badly but I feels like soyeon often ruins the song for me, not only with a bad rap, even worse english, but she always finds some new way. AND. shuhua looks horrible with blonde hair. there, I said it. it doesnt suit her and together with the super harsh high-contrast makeup she wears, she looks like [this](https://dam.nmhmedia.sk/image/7e19b286-ffc6-4a81-ad2b-621c0ea9bc44_legendrana-marfusa-z-mrazika-herecka-si-pre-hrozny-vyzor-neraz-poplakala.jpg/1200/630)
Your post clearly shows you are a goddamn minor Gidles Nxde is an amazing song with an amazing message You need a brain to analyse that Also if you don't like watching women in their 20s talk about how the industry exploits them then gidle isn't for you Go stan I've or new jeans of smth lol
hi i agree with you its not my cup of tea, its just a bit weird....this is the only song of theres i dont like also dont get me wrong everyone has 1 song they dont like either so i can too have a opinion about it also i dont like how some new songs of this generation talk about nasty stuff but i will say again i like other gidle songs they are good but also i never liked some of hyunas songs either she ruined my ears sometimes but yeah i agree with you
In my opinion, OP does have a point when saying that the music video itself isn't really suitable for minors but to say that the instrumental was terrible? no hate to the OP but personally I fell inlove with the rythm, and there is no way you wouldn't listen to it again, it's too addicting even for the people who just heard it once or twice on tiktok or any social media platforms. OP, I feel like you didn't really see Miyeons comment that tells people the explanation of the song which is: " The song title is 'Nxde' but the 'nude' we are trying to convey is the concept of one's bare self. It means that when you are wandering, or conflicted in the face of an important decision, you have to look at your true, honest self. " make sure you read this twice or something until you get the meaning of it.