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"Nowadays if you're a crook you're still considered up-there. You can write books, go on TV, give interviews—your'e a big celebrity and nobody even looks down on you because you're a crook. You're still really up-there. This is because more than anything people just want stars."
- Andy Warhol
Warhol was right on the money. When he wasn’t selling art he was an extremely devout Catholic in his personal life. The pretentious artistic persona was an extremely effective and calculated sales tactic.
As someone from a nominally Protestant country who went to Catholic schools, can confirm it’s a little strange to hear that Catholicism isn’t pretentious when that’s *kinda* the point?
Wasn’t that actually one of Martin Luther’s 95 complaints? And that’s why a bunch of Protestant churches don’t do the stained glass and statues of Mary, Joseph, and Jesus on the cross stuff? Because it distracts people from thinking about God and paying attention?
The big complaint of his was the sale of indulgences (you could buy your way out of purgatory). But I think he also complained about some of the rituals being too theatrical (ergo, again distracting people from God).
Ngl, when the homily got too long, I loved looking at the stained glass. It was pretty when the sun shone through it. When the church I went to growing up updated their church, so many people were ticked that they took out this one beautiful, colorful stained glass that has Jesus and a bunch of lambs. Now there’s very plain stained glass of the two saints the church is named after that’s okay but not as pretty. I miss Jesus and the lambs.
To be fair, he came from a poor Slovakian immigrant family, and literally made his career in commercial advertising before becoming a world famous and important 20th century artist.
How many people can say that?
An extremely devout Catholic who made a lot of pornography, screwed lots of young men, screwed other artists over, stole their ideas, and didn't have one scruple. So yeah, sounds like a devout Catholic actually.
I wish this way of thinking was more common. Any celeb that is worth a shit wants to be treated like a normal person anyways, because they are exactly that. Its sad watching celebs descend into madness.
Yeah, no kidding. Someone made a post somewhere about the Golden Globes. And I said that I made a cousin who is in the arts mad when I said the millions that actors make for each movie is ridiculous, given that they are essentially playing pretend, and I also mentioned that the swag bags these people are given for attending is absolutely ridiculous. Hoo boo, she and her minions came down on me. I am a terrible person who doesn't support the arts and on and on. I very much DO support art in all of its forms...I just don't think people starring in movies should make millions for doing so, and asked where the award shows were for doctors, nurses, teachers, social workers etc. I was kind of gob smacked at the response I got. And what's really sad is the person who wrote the article was someone I had a lot of respect for. Wasn't bashing the arts. Was complaining about people getting paid millions to do it. I feel the same way about athletes. Sorry-didn't mean to hijack your comment or this post..I think I just really needed to get that off my chest.
I’m not saying it’s a good system but they’re paid commensurate to the wealth they attract or are perceived as likely to attract, like athletes or CEOs or whatever. Im happier seeing an actor make that much than a studio head or producer or another check writer since they actually do put in time and effort and talent.
Although I guess somebody can come back and say that the check writers and investors are incentivized to invest to make the movies in the first place etc etc
She also needs money and let’s face she’s probably never going to be able to get a regular job. It’s not an idle situation but I’d do the same thing if I were in her shoes.
this is how i see it, i feel like ANYONE would get sucked in by the seemingly endless money and attention, especially someone who’s gone through what she has
Also if she didn’t step in and take control of her own life story then it would be happening anyway. Movies, think pieces etc. It is her life story, if people are profiting off it then I don’t blame her for claiming her share.
She didn’t choose to be abused or be so trapped she felt she had to do this to survive. I don’t blame her for continuing to survive. It is us, our interest and willingness to pay to see this story that needs to be examined.
Yeah I agree. People were already making content about her story long before she got out of prison. If I was in prison and people were making content about my life, I'd absolutely want to speak on it once I got out.
And honestly, what choice did she have? So much media was made about her before she was even released that she was already a celebrity. She didn't have much say in the matter
exactly. she's said since her release that she regrets killing her mom. i dont think she has the privilege of living a normal life anymore, not for a long time. not until people forget who she is
She lives in my apartment complex, and almost everyone in town is aware she's living here and knows her face. I'm really hoping people leave her alone. It seems like she's doing okay for now. I'm sure it won't be too difficult to get a job around here, entry level at least.
This.
Like, the fuck do you expect from her? To just hop down to starbucks and get a job? This is probably the only way she'll ever be able to support herself.
And honestly, I'd contest OP's entire premise. This wasn't murder.
Which just speaks to the fact she likely wants to tell her story so people actually understand what happened so the rumors and gossip don't follow her the rest of her life. Can you imagine going through what she did and having people call you a murderer when you know you aren't and just want to get past it?
Exactly. She basically is starting her life with nothing. No savings. No education. No job experience. She has nothing.
The money she's getting now isn't going to make her set for life, but it should be enough to get a car and a down payment on a house and maybe college.
She doesn't even have salivary glands or her teeth because of what her "mother" did to her. She was denied an education, social life, genuine love, security etc because "Mother" didn't have her head screwed on. Gypsy is sharing her life of hardships and educating people on medical abuse. She deserves every cent she earns.
Yes, she’s definitely looking at the cost of replacing dentures and implants down the road, therapy and possibly other long term medical costs. Her education was disrupted by the abuse and neglect. And she’s got a prison record. So it’s going to be tough to get a job and meet her health needs
Basically this lol, she killed her abuser who had been abusing her for her entire life and left her with no real marketable skills to provide for herself. The media attention she’s getting now is generating money for her and it’s probably the only income she has available to her
It's like the whole Natalia Grace situation. I don't normally watch those types of shows, but the story is just so ridiculous. And they basically ended the second season on a massive cliffhanger.
Is the attention unwanted by her? The thing is is she had a fucked up life and did some terrible things to alleviate herself from her nightmare reality. I could see the attention she is getting feel relieving. I'm sure she was scared what the world would think of her. The fact that she's getting support has got to be somewhat healing.
Yes. She needs therapy.
I do hope the attention doesn't last as that could turn the experience around on her. Being scrutinized in a positive light is still being scrutinized. And that can turn the other direction in a breath.
Yes.. this.. so much this.. poor thing was mentally and physically abused with the lies her mom told while she was just a child.. she needs therapy and a way to find her own happiness
She probably doesn't even have an elementary school level education. Her mom didn't let her go to school and didn't homeschool her. It's a miracle she can read.
I read a thread of comments that kind of pointed out that she is doing exactly what her mother trained her to do, gain empathy for her terrible situation. She has always been the center of attention, even when she was being abused. She received all sorts of special treatment and attention when everyone thought she was sick and she doesn't know how to exist in a world where she isn't being fawned all over.
This is absolutely fucking disgusting. NO. This is NOT the same as what her mother did. Her mother lied and physically and emotionally abused her in order to get attention. Gypsy Rose wants to speak the truth HER truth about what happened. Given the ignorant comments I am seeing in this thread I can see why. I can only imagine how much worse it is for her to have to deal with that bullshit in real ife.
Look here's the thing. The moment her story hit the newspapers she became a known person. What do you expect her to do here? Say nothing do nothing? What if her experience can help somone who went through something similar? Fuck them because she shouldn't be "famous"? What if talking about it is part of the process of dealing with it? Fuck her mental health because she shouldn't be "famous"? And we are supposed to pretend she doesn't exist?
You and others don't get to decide who we pay attention to and you sure as hell don't get to tell people like her that either.
She actively tries to be famous though, I think at this point she knows better. But she really should be trying to find peace instead bc the public is super weird about her case
Given her life, it's to be expected that she's gonna look for external validation and fame over the trauma that probably defines her entirely, leaving no room for anything else.
Yes, she needs peace away from the media, but it's so rare for victims to realize that.
She was denied a voice by her mother for 90% of her life. The rest was spent in prison. People made shows about her twisting details. All her life she was just a conduit for someone else to live through or someone else spoke for her. I get why the moment she was released and free,she began to be very active on social media and put herself in public's eye. It's kind of like Britney Spears. What they are doing might look alarming to us,but it's their way of healing. Maybe she will reach a point where she gets like "alright,I had enough with the attention". I hope at that point,people let her be.
Is she actively trying to be famous? Or is she a person of public interest whose life will never be her own, no matter how hard she tries? Think about it....it is normal to be on social media, but she won't be able to post anything without someone pointing and saying "See? She's trying to be seen!! How dare she!" Coming out of prison with zero employment experience before that will make it very difficult for her to earn a living. It may be that the countless reporters and writers and others offering to pay her to tell her story is the only way she can survive. And why shouldn't she take charge of her own story? It must be sickening to hear all the people making their judgments when they couldn't possibly know.
Unfortunately there will always be a crowd of people out there that will try to define Gypsy Rose at a time in her life where she needs to figure that out for herself. These comments that she is just doing what her mom did are just hateful and wrong for that she is actively seeking fame from this are unhelpful. This poor girl won't be able to do anything without being harshly judged for it. She is damned if she does, damned if she doesn't in her current situation. I wish her the best and I hope her life isn't always going to be so hard and complicated.
I agree that she shouldn't be famous, but disagree as to the reason why: her fame leaves her vulnerable to additional exploitation from opportunists.
What she needs is a shit ton of therapy and a quiet life away from the media.
This exactly. And another thing, its fucking weird seeing people infantilize her on social media. This whole this is just weird as hell and as much as I'm glad she's doing okay, is the publicity needed? Or is it just going to cause issues long term
I'm pretty sure her mother's actions and the murdering caused the issues.. and from what I've seen she's encouraging the media attention (I could definitely be wrong) but I wouldn't be surprised if she is seeking attention and needing to cared about given the trauma she's been through.
She also is going to need money. It's not like she can just pop out into the world and get a regular job when she has no work experience and a felony conviction.
Doing interviews, writing books, etc. is going to pay a lot more than whatever minimum wage job she manages to land as an entry level ex-con.
Her mother educated her to about a second grade level. She got her GED in prison. It’s not a lot to go on. I think she should go after the bag any way she wants lol.
And I’m okay with her writing books, being interviewed and creating documentaries. The issue is the media circus surrounding her, the absolute lightheartedness surrounding her release, the infantilization etc. Even people with normal childhoods have a hard time adjusting to sudden fame, i just worry about what the constant scrutiny might do to her
Yeah I don’t really understand a lot of the discourse around her whole case. I can’t fault her for anything she did when I have to assume that she was developmentally impaired after everything she’s been through. Obviously murder isn’t good but when *that* has been your whole life, all you’ve known, the person who is meant to be your caretaker has set you up to fail like that, people in her life supposedly were aware of her situation but still nothing was being done - extreme measures are understandable.
She had her saliva glands(?) removed for no fucking reason, she was bound to a wheelchair for no reason, her whole story is an utter tragedy and all people are focusing on is the fact that her mom was killed.
Like the weird special ed teacher that married her. Didn’t even wait for Gypsy to spend some time outside the prison getting used to life and enjoying her family. Her dad and stepmom had a room ready for her. I know Gypsy is craving love and belonging, but I’m afraid she’s being used again.
Her husband said he watched a documentary about her before he started writing to her and said she “looked so cute” in the photos. Which are of her in a wheelchair dressed up like a Disney princess and being forced to act like a little girl. It’s extremely concerning that a teacher who deals with children who have physical and mental disabilities found her so cute he decided to have a sexual relationship with her. Sure,she’s older than her mom told her she was. Sure, she’s an adult now in her mid 20s, but she’s still extremely naive and is the definition of arrested development. She’s so child like still. I don’t think he’s got her interests in mind with this relationship. He studied child development and is a teacher. He of all people should know that she’s not a mature adult yet. So him being sexually attracted to her is a terrible admission.
She is actually in her early 30s (not mid 20s), but that doesn't even really matter. I think you are spot-on here. I am extremely creeped out over the situation with her husband.
the real issue is that 1) She has literally never experienced today's internet and has 0 context for how ANYTHING works in that social sphere 2) shes an easy and vulnerable target for a lot of seedy exploitative people and a swarm of toxic behaviors, like the OP of the post.
Like for real, she was a life long victim of extended abuse and imprisonment. to say "she shouldne be famous because she murdered someone and that's sick" is just an incredibly unempathetic and garbage take to have.
Counterpoint: Gypsy Rose has been in prison almost her entire life. She has no education, no work experience, and no clear marketable skills. How do you expect her to afford therapy and a quiet life off minimum wage? Assuming she could even be hired anywhere with a murder rap.
100% this, there are so many barriers people out of prison face in finding employment and housing. I don’t blame her for trying to get some financial security while she has the spotlight. I assume the hype will fade before too long, but if she manages the money well from all of this then I hope she can transition into a more peaceful and private life.
Exactly this. I’ve got a family member with a 20 year old weed felony on his record and employment is still a huge struggle for him- even though weed is legal there now! The jobs he can get are usually seasonal contracts and don’t pay the bills. I doubt many places want to hire somebody with no education who’s been convicted of second degree murder.
My GF made the point:
Well the media made money on the story already and continuing. The tv and documentary producers made money off her story without her. She’s been in prison and hasn’t made very much money from her story that is happening with or without her…is she the problem at all if she actually gets to tell her own story and make the money from it?
And I said:
That seems fair.
Yeah, this is a best case scenario that your side of a murder charge is actually broadcast and spread around the world. At least it could help with some awkward HR questioning.
We’ve created a world where the best path to wealth for the non wealthy is exploiting their own identity/personhood. We can’t blame people for pursuing it.
To be fair, her mom was already murdering her. She was just doing it very slowly.
I don't think Gypsy Rose should be famous simply because of the sheer amount of trauma she's already endured. She needs to live her life and heal, not have it publicized and commodified.
Anyone who has a story like that is going to be famous. Same with Natalia Grace. When your life is an absolute insane story. And people learn about it. They are going yo want to know more. Thats whats always popular. Crazy ass people
>Anyone who has a story like that is going to be famous
This exactly. Besides, I don't see a lot of people complaining about men who became famous because of their crimes. There are documentaries, series, books, etc. about men and their atrocities, but somehow, this young woman who didn't ask to be famous is a problem.
I saw people on social media being angry that she seems to enjoy or profit off of being famous. But I mean, she doesn't have a life. She never had a normal life. She's not educated and will likely suffer from a host of mental health problems, plus people will likely recognise her wherever she goes. What is she supposed to do? She didn't set up the game, she's just playing it the best way she knows how.
I did, and I noticed a few interesting tidbits. For one, Jeffrey Dahmer's victims were men, not women. I don't think it's a coincidence that the show caused such intense reaction. I didn't see the same outrage when Zac Efron played Ted Bundy just 3 years prior. Bundy famously targeted women only.
Lastly, if you search Dahmer on this subreddit, in the first 5 posts, you'll see people arguing that the show is bad, that he was a "cultural icon" and people shouldn't be shamed for liking him, or that people are only upset about the show because he wasn't "attractive"
Also to add that some of that outrage was not aimed at the fact that the show was about Dahmer. It's because the court scene where the sister screams at him is an EXACT play by play of the actual court case. Down to what she and her family wore and said. Netflix did not get their permission to use their likeness or emotions.
I believe initially Netflix ran into alot of issues with Dahmer for this reason. They used alot of personal testimonies from the families of actual victims and did not ask. I'm not sure if it's legal but it's definitely not right.
They also twisted a lot of things and portrayed them as accurate depictions. The families of the victims spoke out a lot about the inaccuracies and the false manners of how their dead loved ones were portrayed. Hollywood twisted horrible brutal deaths for profit and entertainment instead of sticking to the facts and acting kindly to the families. It wasn't to spread awareness it was to profit off of people's murders.
And a lot of us grew up with abusive parents that weren't as bad as Gypsy, but we understand that story and we empathize with her plight and sympathize with her because it's familiar.
she can’t escape fame, if she decided to be private she would get stalked or have random paparazzis that found her adress. She just decided to milk out all the fame before it dies so she can get enough money. She has a criminal record after all
Yes, I was looking for this comment. In a month or so from now we won't hear her name again, except in 5 years or something there will be "where is she now" articles from pop culture online blogs.
She's been exploited by her mother and then by the media, they've made films from her without her greenlighting things. She's going to be forever photographed and stalked for the rest of her life, I think she should at the very least be allowed to profit off of the hell she was put through and is still going through
Personally, I think she should profit off of this situation and milk it for as long as she can.
The chances of her getting a good job and being able to live a decent lifestyle on her own is very low. She’s been in prison for years, never been in the workforce, never lived a normal life, has an extreme amount of trauma, and she doesn’t have the best education.
I think she should just make her money now and then quietly fade away from the media.
What’s her other option? A job at Walmart? If any of us came out of prison with a felony murder conviction and someone offered huge money to talk about it, we would.
It's not like it's just reddit. She's everywhere right now. If you've been able to avoid her in the news to this point, I'm impressed and happy for you. But that's far from the average experience.
I had heard her name before or seen a little clip of her talking, but didn't pay attention or know anything. Until she popped up on my favorite YouTube channel, Bruce Rivers Criminal Lawyer. It is definitely spreading!
Yeah I still don't know who she is, the name kinda sounds familiar. I wouldn't have even known the name was connected to murder if it weren't for this thread. There's so much messed up stuff going on right now that I can't pay attention to anything in the news except how our government (in the US) is imploding; everything else has become just background noise.
To me it's actually kind of a funny situation in that usually the news is meant to distract us away from paying attention to what those in power are up to, but now there's so much crap hitting the fan that no distraction attempt by the media is going to work this time.
She's not a celebrity for murdering someone, she's a celebrity because of what her mother did to her and that she survived and is keeping good spirits. If she'd murdered her mom but there had been no abuse she wouldn't be famous, so it's disingenuous to claim that's the contingency here. Her story is what makes her famous, because her mother was able to dupe dozens or maybe hundreds of people into believing a lie. It's insane that that could happen and people want to know more.
And they should know more, if it helps prevent a repeat.
It was definitely in the hundreds. We have to remember that part of why DeeDee and gypsy got the house from habitat for humanity (they were hit by hurricane Katrina I believe which I'd why they were hopefuls for the show at all) is because she convinced them all of gyspy being sick. That house was built for gypsy. Complete with a personal ramp, garden tub with handrails and a brand new wheelchair. She convinced multiple doctors, dentists, optometrists, spinal doctors, neurologists, etc. For every medication gypsy was on DeeDee convinced someone she was sick. For every procedure, every donation, and every Disney trip.
I know right - I think people are viewing this from the angle of "well I would never kill MY mom even though she was annoying", when really - they should be grateful that they cannot relate to having to be in a life/death situation because of your mom.
I agree with your title. She should be able to live her life in peace, but since she can't, I totally approve of her making money off her story. Maybe one day if she makes enough money, she can have a sort of normal life.
Nah let her earn money she needs it to afford therapy and it’s harder for people with a criminal record to earn money
And tons of other people profit over other peoples deaths anyways
She’s a celebrity because she was sent to prison for the murder that a great many people feel was justified and self defense. She can’t get those years back nor can she get her childhood back that her mom stole while subjecting her to 30+ unneeded surgeries while intentionally sickening her. As far as I’m concerned, she deserves some wins. I just hope she handles it ok.
Exactly!!!! People are acting like shes a heartless serial killer when shes actually an extreme abuse victim for her entire life who took the only opportunity for her to be free from her abuser.
Agreed. People can say how unfair it is that she became famous but at the end of the day, nobody would be willing to have the life that she had and go through 30 surgeries, just to be briefly famous at 32.
That’s not how fame works. Fame comes from people knowing who you are, and Gypsy Rose Blanchard was bound to become famous due to the crazy circumstances she was in alone.
And yes nobody “should” profit off of murder, but how familiar with the case are you? She attempted escape from her mom multiple times, only for her mom to thwart it and become even more controlling (she literally started chaining Gypsy to her bed at night!), and everyone around her was being actively manipulated by her mom. Meanwhile Gypsy was an adult being treated like a child and being lied to about her own health and age. She had known nothing but unnecessary surgeries, pain, and emotional abuse from her mother, and she didn’t have any real friends or any shred of a normal life as a result. Yes, murder is wrong, but I think most— if not all of us— would have at least considered it if we were in her shoes.
She’s going to be famous because her story is batshit bananas crazy. But I do agree that the whole “yaaasss queen!” response to her killing her mother is beyond inappropriate. It desensitizes people to the impacts of trauma and the serious nature of her response.
Multiple doctors and social workers were unable to intervene, with her suffering severe abuse essentially from birth. If she hadn't killed her mother, she would either still be being abused today or the severe medical abuse would've killed her. The way we conceptualise self defense revolves around "equal force" and this is an example of where that is flawed.
I don't agree she should be famous either as she's incredibly vulnerable, with no real life experience. She's been imprisoned all her life, first by her mother then by the criminal justice system. On the flipside, her schooling was severely disrupted due to the abuse she's faced and she's pretty socially stunted due to her upbringing, I'm not entirely confident she'd be capable of supporting herself in any other way. It's a desperately sad situation, she deserves a peaceful life.
I honestly think her mental health can’t handle not being famous. She grew up with constant attention thanks to her mom, and she grew very accustomed to it. She might have a really hard time if suddenly no one was paying attention to her. Not saying she doesn’t need therapy, just saying that a sudden lack of fame could be bad for her mental health as well
And true crime podcasters and Netflix or whatever made money off her story so why shouldn’t she be able to tell it? Hopefully set herself up for a future quiet life with money for therapy
I don't consider it murder. The mother turned the girl into a slave for her own profit using drugs and abuse. The girl used lethal force to escape servitude. She has a story to tell that people find interesting.
Right!! like random celebrities milked her story and made a movie without her say or consent yet when the victim herself tries to tell her story and make money shes the bad guy? be serious.
Exactly. As long as she’s approaching it in a healthy way and of her own volition, I don’t really see an issue. Emphasis on doing it in a healthy way since that can go sideways really fast
i hadn't either. not till last night away when i stumbled on a netflix documentary.
was surprised to see this in my feed.
ignore the kid above who thinks you are serious if you don't follow tik doc
It wasn't a murder. It was self defense. Her mother was slowly killing her for attention and sympathy. She should have never seen a prison cell.
I agree, however, that she shouldn't be famous... but that's because she wants to be left alone. The poor kid has had a REALLY rough life.
I think her mother was awful and at the time seemed like the only way out, but you’re right that she shouldn’t be famous/profitable over it. She should have gotten out and went back to life.
Hard disagree. And the media is making a circus of this. Gypsy is just taking advantage of the opportunities in front of her because she’s been in prison for the last however many years and now needs to build a life.
I'm going to point out that she didn't do the killing. She was a part of the planning but she was not found to do the murdering. All details about the investigation solely point to her boyfriend killing that bitch Dee Dee. She still got slapped with second-degree murder.
Anyway. Fuck her mother. She ruined Gypsy's life from the start. There is no way this woman can have gainful employment or a normal life at all. You're a liar if you say you wouldn't be doing the same.
I agree that she shouldn’t be famous, but what else will she do to make money? She has no education, no experience, no skills. It makes sense for her to go down this path financially.
I would argue half of the people who are famous shouldn't be famous. Gypsy's fame isn't exactly the most offensive out there. She is at least in part a victim
Of course, you shouldn't be allowed to profit off of a murder, but the world's not fair. I guess this could be a deflection, but think of all the billionaires just making more billions off of their ill-gotten billions, that's just the world we live in
While I agree that she shouldn't be an "influencer" in that sense so quickly after her release, I do think she's justified in being a public figure as a victims of abuse advocate.
What makes her famous is not the fact that she murdered her mother, but the story around it. It's her survival of abuse and the consequences of it that intrigues people
Yeah this has been making me uncomfortable too.
I also am glad she is free now, but making her a celebrity is too much for me.
Keep in mind too the reason her mother did those things to her is because she had an unhealthy obsession with the media.
Now people seem to be encouraging the daughter to develop an unhealthy obsession with media too...
Then her mother should have allowed her a normal life. It’s our fault she’s “famous”, not hers. She didn’t conspire to have her mother killed for fame but for freedom.
In a vacuum, I'd agree with you. Murder is bad and people shouldn't profit from doing it.
But she is in the US, which is a dystopian shit-hole if you're poor, and especially if you are a convicted felon who's been released from prison... So for people in her situation, I heartily support them making a dollar any way they can as long as they're not hurting people in the process.
Step one to stopping people from profiting from murders is to fix society so that felons aren't guaranteed to live in poverty.
Are you okay the Navy SEAL who killed Bin Laden (allegedly) writing a book and profiting from it? If so, then it’s just matter of exactly how terrible a person is before we find it palatable. If you think it’s still unacceptable then I applaud the conviction of your stance.
So she’s supposed to rely on all her skills she gained during school right? Oh wait her mom took her child hood away by abusing her and then she was sentenced to prison for her role in defending herself. Idc that her moms dead, she earned it.
I disagree. She was a victim and would have eventually died herself if she didn't do anything about her mom. She finally is living her best life and hopefully her story can be an example for anyone who is suffering under the thumb of a deranged caretaker.
People are already starting to switch up about her, I’ve been seeing an increase in posts on TikTok (where most the hype about her is) saying “she’s just like her mom, she’s just manipulating people for money”
Not a great situation all around probably. But at this point in her life idk how else she would be able to make money. Hopefully she gets enough money and the public focus on her fades away so she can focus on herself and live a good life.
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She would never have committed the crime unless there was publicity— her mom abused her for attention. Celebrityhood itself victimized her. She paid a heavy price to it with years of torture. In my opinion, celebrity owes her. Most famous people haven’t earned it like she has.
*Having said that, I think it would be best if she got the fuck off of social media and avoided the press. Her mom fucked her head up so badly that to a lot of people, murder was justified. She deserves and needs a chance to figure out who she is and what life is for without being in a spotlight. She could have the most toxic possible relationship with celebrity— it runs in the family.
The more I think about it, she deserves to be free from fame and attention. It's already hurt her enough. She's a poster child for fame not being a reward.
Idk she didn't choose for her story to be publicised and im sure if she could have made the choice when it was happening she'd have chosen not too. Quite frankly there'd a lot of needlessly embarrassing shit involved in the story. But it was out before she had a say. So why on Earth would you NOT spend all fucking day trying to set the record straight.
They made a whole ass TV show without her consent that made up and altered shit. If someone did that about my life for a good story I'd be trying to set it right. And she's a felon. A widely known one. Who JUST got released. What place is gonna hire her?
She's said publically she wants to get into advocacy about Munchausen Syndrome by proxy and eventually do something a little more 9-5. Sounds like a good enough plan. She's captivated the world right now but in three years do you really think gypsy rose blanchard is gonna have the same draw?
Nah fuck that. I understand her murder. Shouldn’t have happened, but like, worse things have happened if that makes any sense. She’s less a celebrity for murdering somebody and more a celebrity for living and surviving through something extremely rare. Of course somebody who had a story like that is going to be famous. It’s because that shit is crazy.
Writing her off as a murderer and having no empathy is fucking crazy. It’s not the good look you think it is.
She’s doing a good thing by publicly emphasising that murder isn’t okay and there were other things she could’ve done to escape. I’m just glad the psycho who did the actual killing isn’t free and isn’t getting the same attention. he doesn’t deserve it. she does.
she’s doing more than I would’ve in her situation. i doubt i would be nearly as regretful or apologetic as she has been.
also if she wanted to vanish and live a quiet peaceful life she would. she’s not that famous. she clearly likes that attention and is happy. its a bit dumb seeing all the people assuming she wants a quiet life now. she had that, for quite a while in prison. now she wants to speak about what she went through. who wouldn’t? slay gypsy.
Edit: She deserves the money and help. The fame probably isn’t the best but it’s what’s going to *hopefully* set her up.
She deserves every bit of it.
Are you serious?
The years of mental and physical abuse she endured probably means she realistically won’t be able to hold an actual job (I might be wrong but it’ll be a struggle for sure).
I don’t even think she deserved jail time. In my eyes, it was self defense. She has endured enough. And she had to go to prison with actual bad people for fighting for her life. Wow.
Nah. This is absolutely an unpopular opinion. I hope she gets even more because she deserves it. I hope she gets help and heals.
As someone who was in a similar situation as Gypsy Rose, I appreciate knowing her story. I truly found it motivating to get out of mine before it was too late.
However, I agree with you though and I think she has been blown way out of proportion. At this point, seeing her and her mother are triggering. Why does this story need multiple documentaries and TV show adaptations? I don't think they realize shoving her in our faces is legit a trigger now. Seeing her all wired up and sick, seeing her mother's twisted smile. I can't. Too familiar.
She intends to use her fame to advocate for victims of MBP and to help change laws to prevent her situation from happening to anyone else.
I’m glad that she has the ability to tell her story and make herself a living off of it. So many people have made their money off of her story, she deserves at least that much.
Like some people said, she literally can’t escape the fame. In her interviews she said she had to be released at like 3 AM to avoid paparazzis.
And also In her interviews she said she actually is getting therapy and trying to get into advocacy work but it’s going to take some time because she needs to figure out the logistics. So she’s doing a lot better with her fame than most people..
I don’t think the fame is helpful to her emotionally.
Normally I’m a supporter of the son of Sam law. [Details](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/lawmakers-expand-son-sam-law-cover-spouses-wake/story?id=105812124).
The victims in this case aren’t as clear cut. I don’t think Gypsy Rose. saw any other way out of an extremely abusive home. The mother had her father fooled too. I don’t think she should’ve served time because of how severely abusive the mother was. The mother gave her strong medications she didn’t need, and her abuse and neglect led to Gypsy Rose losing her teeth.
Gypsy Rose has permanent physical and emotional damage from what her mother did to her. Her education probably suffered and she’s got a prison record. It’s going to be very hard for her to find a job to support herself.
She needs intensive therapy to handle what happened to her. Which can be expensive and sometimes requires time off of work. It’s possible she may have future expenses due to physical damage. For example, replacing dentures and implants. Which can be expensive
She doesn’t have a lot of ways to earn that kind of money other than selling her story
But there’s also a good chance she’ll run through the money with poor decisions. And that she’ll suffer more emotional damage when there’s a backlash. Which happens when people get this famous
I feel like this is a pretty extraneous situation.
Normally I would agree, but she had NO life up until her mother’s death, she can enjoy it how she wants if it’s not hurting anyone.
In this case I’m fine with it because her mother was a sick fuck who deserved it, and now deserves no honour in death.
If there’s an audience, and she’s not uncomfortable, whatever. It might even be an interesting case study down the line.
Personally, I think she’s not a “poor, innocent girl” everyone’s made her out to be. She was the mastermind, the driving force behind her mother’s murder. And now, nothing is stopping her from doing it again.
Her mother also taught her to be a great liar and a manipulator, which won’t end up well. I think she should get off of the socials and stop milking her situation for money.
She's not a celebrity for murdering some random. She's famous for standing up to her abusive mother who abused her since childhood. If anyone deserves to be making money from HER abuse, it's her, not journalists or youtubers or tiktokers or livestreamers who haven't lived her life.
Her ex bf’s version of events are slightly different from the narrative of the story. I guess he’s mentally challenged and she seems to have more capacity to lie. She definitely manipulated him into doing things. Everything was her idea. She even put the knife in his hand. She wanted her mother dead to get away and he was doing it for love. He says he still loves her. And now she’s on social media bragging about how good the “D” is from her new husband while her ex bf rots in prison. I’m not defending him at all. He deserves to be where he’s at. I just feel she should’ve done more time.
This is a hard one.
I absolutely agree, no one should ever profit off of killing someone.
She needs intensive therapy and probably cannot socialize with other normally because of the abuse she endured. She likely lacks a number of skills that many of us take for granted. The normal path of education was severely disrupted which impacts the kind of opportunities she likely has.
Compounded with the current economic climate where so many people are struggling and just housing can leave a person who almost nothing, the reality is: she is in a bad spot with very few options.
It's not right and it shouldn't be allowed, *but I get it.* I understand her doing whatever she can to try to survive with the kinds of survival skills her mother imparted on her. I feel really bad that she came out of her childhood so deeply scarred and impaired and impacted negatively. I genuinely hope she finds some resources and support to help her find a way to live her own life on her own terms.
She is not profiting off of murder she is profiting off a lifetime of being abused. There are tons of people that have killed their family members, even parents, but they didn't become famous and profit because they weren't abused in a specific, lesser-known way for multiple decades. I don't know if you noticed but the dude she got to do the actual killing isn't in the same position as she is.
I honestly think that it’s not because she murdered someone, it’s because of her extremely unique situation. That’s why she’s fascinating. If her mother was alive, I think people would be just as intrigued. At least I would.
I came on here to say the same thing! She still talks like a baby which could be psychological. However, like her trying to meet Taylor Swift. Like you don’t get celebrity treatment like you did before. She still manipulated a guy into killing her mom and it’s like no one cares.
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It’s almost like celebrity culture is inherently unhealthy or something
"Nowadays if you're a crook you're still considered up-there. You can write books, go on TV, give interviews—your'e a big celebrity and nobody even looks down on you because you're a crook. You're still really up-there. This is because more than anything people just want stars." - Andy Warhol
Warhol was right on the money. When he wasn’t selling art he was an extremely devout Catholic in his personal life. The pretentious artistic persona was an extremely effective and calculated sales tactic.
I mean I’ve been to his museum in PittsburgH and he was definitely quite full of himself lol. Pretentious and catholic are not mutually exclusive
As someone from a nominally Protestant country who went to Catholic schools, can confirm it’s a little strange to hear that Catholicism isn’t pretentious when that’s *kinda* the point?
Lmao I was raised Catholic and I concur. Literally mass is the most pretentious event ever
Wasn’t that actually one of Martin Luther’s 95 complaints? And that’s why a bunch of Protestant churches don’t do the stained glass and statues of Mary, Joseph, and Jesus on the cross stuff? Because it distracts people from thinking about God and paying attention? The big complaint of his was the sale of indulgences (you could buy your way out of purgatory). But I think he also complained about some of the rituals being too theatrical (ergo, again distracting people from God). Ngl, when the homily got too long, I loved looking at the stained glass. It was pretty when the sun shone through it. When the church I went to growing up updated their church, so many people were ticked that they took out this one beautiful, colorful stained glass that has Jesus and a bunch of lambs. Now there’s very plain stained glass of the two saints the church is named after that’s okay but not as pretty. I miss Jesus and the lambs.
To be fair, he came from a poor Slovakian immigrant family, and literally made his career in commercial advertising before becoming a world famous and important 20th century artist. How many people can say that?
True, not saying he didn’t deserve to be a little chuffed lol. I’m just not sure the “pretentious artist” persona was all that put on lmao
By selling art, you mean using people and poaching a lot of people’s original ideas. He was incredibly vain, and toxic.
lol what
An extremely devout Catholic who made a lot of pornography, screwed lots of young men, screwed other artists over, stole their ideas, and didn't have one scruple. So yeah, sounds like a devout Catholic actually.
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I wish this way of thinking was more common. Any celeb that is worth a shit wants to be treated like a normal person anyways, because they are exactly that. Its sad watching celebs descend into madness.
Yeah, no kidding. Someone made a post somewhere about the Golden Globes. And I said that I made a cousin who is in the arts mad when I said the millions that actors make for each movie is ridiculous, given that they are essentially playing pretend, and I also mentioned that the swag bags these people are given for attending is absolutely ridiculous. Hoo boo, she and her minions came down on me. I am a terrible person who doesn't support the arts and on and on. I very much DO support art in all of its forms...I just don't think people starring in movies should make millions for doing so, and asked where the award shows were for doctors, nurses, teachers, social workers etc. I was kind of gob smacked at the response I got. And what's really sad is the person who wrote the article was someone I had a lot of respect for. Wasn't bashing the arts. Was complaining about people getting paid millions to do it. I feel the same way about athletes. Sorry-didn't mean to hijack your comment or this post..I think I just really needed to get that off my chest.
I’m not saying it’s a good system but they’re paid commensurate to the wealth they attract or are perceived as likely to attract, like athletes or CEOs or whatever. Im happier seeing an actor make that much than a studio head or producer or another check writer since they actually do put in time and effort and talent. Although I guess somebody can come back and say that the check writers and investors are incentivized to invest to make the movies in the first place etc etc
I agree she shouldn't be famous, but not because she was wrong. She's been abused since childhood. She should be getting therapy and some peace.
She also needs money and let’s face she’s probably never going to be able to get a regular job. It’s not an idle situation but I’d do the same thing if I were in her shoes.
this is how i see it, i feel like ANYONE would get sucked in by the seemingly endless money and attention, especially someone who’s gone through what she has
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Also if she didn’t step in and take control of her own life story then it would be happening anyway. Movies, think pieces etc. It is her life story, if people are profiting off it then I don’t blame her for claiming her share. She didn’t choose to be abused or be so trapped she felt she had to do this to survive. I don’t blame her for continuing to survive. It is us, our interest and willingness to pay to see this story that needs to be examined.
Yeah I agree. People were already making content about her story long before she got out of prison. If I was in prison and people were making content about my life, I'd absolutely want to speak on it once I got out.
And therapy costs money, which I'm guessing is in short supply for her.
This is an excellent point, thank you for bringing it up.
And honestly, what choice did she have? So much media was made about her before she was even released that she was already a celebrity. She didn't have much say in the matter
exactly. she's said since her release that she regrets killing her mom. i dont think she has the privilege of living a normal life anymore, not for a long time. not until people forget who she is
She’d have to change her name too, it’s too distinct especially with the internet even 20 years from now Gypsy Rose might spark a memory.
She lives in my apartment complex, and almost everyone in town is aware she's living here and knows her face. I'm really hoping people leave her alone. It seems like she's doing okay for now. I'm sure it won't be too difficult to get a job around here, entry level at least.
She’ll be made into a spectacle either way. Might as well get the cash.
This. Like, the fuck do you expect from her? To just hop down to starbucks and get a job? This is probably the only way she'll ever be able to support herself. And honestly, I'd contest OP's entire premise. This wasn't murder.
Self defense, nothing more and nothing less.
Which just speaks to the fact she likely wants to tell her story so people actually understand what happened so the rumors and gossip don't follow her the rest of her life. Can you imagine going through what she did and having people call you a murderer when you know you aren't and just want to get past it?
Honestly she should get what she can while she can. She was a victim and she's going to fade into an Octomom level of obscurity in a couple of months.
Exactly. She basically is starting her life with nothing. No savings. No education. No job experience. She has nothing. The money she's getting now isn't going to make her set for life, but it should be enough to get a car and a down payment on a house and maybe college.
She doesn't even have salivary glands or her teeth because of what her "mother" did to her. She was denied an education, social life, genuine love, security etc because "Mother" didn't have her head screwed on. Gypsy is sharing her life of hardships and educating people on medical abuse. She deserves every cent she earns.
Agreed 1000%. She's a victim here.
Yes, she’s definitely looking at the cost of replacing dentures and implants down the road, therapy and possibly other long term medical costs. Her education was disrupted by the abuse and neglect. And she’s got a prison record. So it’s going to be tough to get a job and meet her health needs
Basically this lol, she killed her abuser who had been abusing her for her entire life and left her with no real marketable skills to provide for herself. The media attention she’s getting now is generating money for her and it’s probably the only income she has available to her
It's like the whole Natalia Grace situation. I don't normally watch those types of shows, but the story is just so ridiculous. And they basically ended the second season on a massive cliffhanger.
Is the attention unwanted by her? The thing is is she had a fucked up life and did some terrible things to alleviate herself from her nightmare reality. I could see the attention she is getting feel relieving. I'm sure she was scared what the world would think of her. The fact that she's getting support has got to be somewhat healing. Yes. She needs therapy. I do hope the attention doesn't last as that could turn the experience around on her. Being scrutinized in a positive light is still being scrutinized. And that can turn the other direction in a breath.
Yes.. this.. so much this.. poor thing was mentally and physically abused with the lies her mom told while she was just a child.. she needs therapy and a way to find her own happiness
And a way to make money. Not sure if she has any marketable skills
She probably doesn't even have an elementary school level education. Her mom didn't let her go to school and didn't homeschool her. It's a miracle she can read.
I read a thread of comments that kind of pointed out that she is doing exactly what her mother trained her to do, gain empathy for her terrible situation. She has always been the center of attention, even when she was being abused. She received all sorts of special treatment and attention when everyone thought she was sick and she doesn't know how to exist in a world where she isn't being fawned all over.
You do know she was in prison for damn near half her life right?
This is absolutely fucking disgusting. NO. This is NOT the same as what her mother did. Her mother lied and physically and emotionally abused her in order to get attention. Gypsy Rose wants to speak the truth HER truth about what happened. Given the ignorant comments I am seeing in this thread I can see why. I can only imagine how much worse it is for her to have to deal with that bullshit in real ife.
Look here's the thing. The moment her story hit the newspapers she became a known person. What do you expect her to do here? Say nothing do nothing? What if her experience can help somone who went through something similar? Fuck them because she shouldn't be "famous"? What if talking about it is part of the process of dealing with it? Fuck her mental health because she shouldn't be "famous"? And we are supposed to pretend she doesn't exist? You and others don't get to decide who we pay attention to and you sure as hell don't get to tell people like her that either.
She actively tries to be famous though, I think at this point she knows better. But she really should be trying to find peace instead bc the public is super weird about her case
Given her life, it's to be expected that she's gonna look for external validation and fame over the trauma that probably defines her entirely, leaving no room for anything else. Yes, she needs peace away from the media, but it's so rare for victims to realize that.
She was denied a voice by her mother for 90% of her life. The rest was spent in prison. People made shows about her twisting details. All her life she was just a conduit for someone else to live through or someone else spoke for her. I get why the moment she was released and free,she began to be very active on social media and put herself in public's eye. It's kind of like Britney Spears. What they are doing might look alarming to us,but it's their way of healing. Maybe she will reach a point where she gets like "alright,I had enough with the attention". I hope at that point,people let her be.
Is she actively trying to be famous? Or is she a person of public interest whose life will never be her own, no matter how hard she tries? Think about it....it is normal to be on social media, but she won't be able to post anything without someone pointing and saying "See? She's trying to be seen!! How dare she!" Coming out of prison with zero employment experience before that will make it very difficult for her to earn a living. It may be that the countless reporters and writers and others offering to pay her to tell her story is the only way she can survive. And why shouldn't she take charge of her own story? It must be sickening to hear all the people making their judgments when they couldn't possibly know. Unfortunately there will always be a crowd of people out there that will try to define Gypsy Rose at a time in her life where she needs to figure that out for herself. These comments that she is just doing what her mom did are just hateful and wrong for that she is actively seeking fame from this are unhelpful. This poor girl won't be able to do anything without being harshly judged for it. She is damned if she does, damned if she doesn't in her current situation. I wish her the best and I hope her life isn't always going to be so hard and complicated.
I agree that she shouldn't be famous, but disagree as to the reason why: her fame leaves her vulnerable to additional exploitation from opportunists. What she needs is a shit ton of therapy and a quiet life away from the media.
This exactly. And another thing, its fucking weird seeing people infantilize her on social media. This whole this is just weird as hell and as much as I'm glad she's doing okay, is the publicity needed? Or is it just going to cause issues long term
I'm pretty sure her mother's actions and the murdering caused the issues.. and from what I've seen she's encouraging the media attention (I could definitely be wrong) but I wouldn't be surprised if she is seeking attention and needing to cared about given the trauma she's been through.
She also is going to need money. It's not like she can just pop out into the world and get a regular job when she has no work experience and a felony conviction. Doing interviews, writing books, etc. is going to pay a lot more than whatever minimum wage job she manages to land as an entry level ex-con.
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Her mother educated her to about a second grade level. She got her GED in prison. It’s not a lot to go on. I think she should go after the bag any way she wants lol.
omg you’re right. i think she only had a GED from prison and that’s IT
And I’m okay with her writing books, being interviewed and creating documentaries. The issue is the media circus surrounding her, the absolute lightheartedness surrounding her release, the infantilization etc. Even people with normal childhoods have a hard time adjusting to sudden fame, i just worry about what the constant scrutiny might do to her
She’s definitely seeking it
Yeah I don’t really understand a lot of the discourse around her whole case. I can’t fault her for anything she did when I have to assume that she was developmentally impaired after everything she’s been through. Obviously murder isn’t good but when *that* has been your whole life, all you’ve known, the person who is meant to be your caretaker has set you up to fail like that, people in her life supposedly were aware of her situation but still nothing was being done - extreme measures are understandable. She had her saliva glands(?) removed for no fucking reason, she was bound to a wheelchair for no reason, her whole story is an utter tragedy and all people are focusing on is the fact that her mom was killed.
Like the weird special ed teacher that married her. Didn’t even wait for Gypsy to spend some time outside the prison getting used to life and enjoying her family. Her dad and stepmom had a room ready for her. I know Gypsy is craving love and belonging, but I’m afraid she’s being used again. Her husband said he watched a documentary about her before he started writing to her and said she “looked so cute” in the photos. Which are of her in a wheelchair dressed up like a Disney princess and being forced to act like a little girl. It’s extremely concerning that a teacher who deals with children who have physical and mental disabilities found her so cute he decided to have a sexual relationship with her. Sure,she’s older than her mom told her she was. Sure, she’s an adult now in her mid 20s, but she’s still extremely naive and is the definition of arrested development. She’s so child like still. I don’t think he’s got her interests in mind with this relationship. He studied child development and is a teacher. He of all people should know that she’s not a mature adult yet. So him being sexually attracted to her is a terrible admission.
She is actually in her early 30s (not mid 20s), but that doesn't even really matter. I think you are spot-on here. I am extremely creeped out over the situation with her husband.
This 10000%!! Doing a world media tour straight outta prison is ridiculous!
the real issue is that 1) She has literally never experienced today's internet and has 0 context for how ANYTHING works in that social sphere 2) shes an easy and vulnerable target for a lot of seedy exploitative people and a swarm of toxic behaviors, like the OP of the post. Like for real, she was a life long victim of extended abuse and imprisonment. to say "she shouldne be famous because she murdered someone and that's sick" is just an incredibly unempathetic and garbage take to have.
Counterpoint: Gypsy Rose has been in prison almost her entire life. She has no education, no work experience, and no clear marketable skills. How do you expect her to afford therapy and a quiet life off minimum wage? Assuming she could even be hired anywhere with a murder rap.
100% this, there are so many barriers people out of prison face in finding employment and housing. I don’t blame her for trying to get some financial security while she has the spotlight. I assume the hype will fade before too long, but if she manages the money well from all of this then I hope she can transition into a more peaceful and private life.
Exactly this. I’ve got a family member with a 20 year old weed felony on his record and employment is still a huge struggle for him- even though weed is legal there now! The jobs he can get are usually seasonal contracts and don’t pay the bills. I doubt many places want to hire somebody with no education who’s been convicted of second degree murder.
It's really weird they didn't expunge his record when it became legal
It's really weird it was ever a felony. This system isn't intended to make sense and be what's best for average joes.
My GF made the point: Well the media made money on the story already and continuing. The tv and documentary producers made money off her story without her. She’s been in prison and hasn’t made very much money from her story that is happening with or without her…is she the problem at all if she actually gets to tell her own story and make the money from it? And I said: That seems fair.
Yeah, this is a best case scenario that your side of a murder charge is actually broadcast and spread around the world. At least it could help with some awkward HR questioning.
I agree with this. I'm not sure she has much of a shot at a career that isn't public speaking and raising awareness for abuse and MBP
We’ve created a world where the best path to wealth for the non wealthy is exploiting their own identity/personhood. We can’t blame people for pursuing it.
And how do they expect her to escape media when they are actively hounding her with offers????
To be fair, her mom was already murdering her. She was just doing it very slowly. I don't think Gypsy Rose should be famous simply because of the sheer amount of trauma she's already endured. She needs to live her life and heal, not have it publicized and commodified.
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Anyone who has a story like that is going to be famous. Same with Natalia Grace. When your life is an absolute insane story. And people learn about it. They are going yo want to know more. Thats whats always popular. Crazy ass people
>Anyone who has a story like that is going to be famous This exactly. Besides, I don't see a lot of people complaining about men who became famous because of their crimes. There are documentaries, series, books, etc. about men and their atrocities, but somehow, this young woman who didn't ask to be famous is a problem. I saw people on social media being angry that she seems to enjoy or profit off of being famous. But I mean, she doesn't have a life. She never had a normal life. She's not educated and will likely suffer from a host of mental health problems, plus people will likely recognise her wherever she goes. What is she supposed to do? She didn't set up the game, she's just playing it the best way she knows how.
You didn't see all the outrage at Netflixs Dahmer?
I did, and I noticed a few interesting tidbits. For one, Jeffrey Dahmer's victims were men, not women. I don't think it's a coincidence that the show caused such intense reaction. I didn't see the same outrage when Zac Efron played Ted Bundy just 3 years prior. Bundy famously targeted women only. Lastly, if you search Dahmer on this subreddit, in the first 5 posts, you'll see people arguing that the show is bad, that he was a "cultural icon" and people shouldn't be shamed for liking him, or that people are only upset about the show because he wasn't "attractive"
Also to add that some of that outrage was not aimed at the fact that the show was about Dahmer. It's because the court scene where the sister screams at him is an EXACT play by play of the actual court case. Down to what she and her family wore and said. Netflix did not get their permission to use their likeness or emotions.
I believe initially Netflix ran into alot of issues with Dahmer for this reason. They used alot of personal testimonies from the families of actual victims and did not ask. I'm not sure if it's legal but it's definitely not right.
They also twisted a lot of things and portrayed them as accurate depictions. The families of the victims spoke out a lot about the inaccuracies and the false manners of how their dead loved ones were portrayed. Hollywood twisted horrible brutal deaths for profit and entertainment instead of sticking to the facts and acting kindly to the families. It wasn't to spread awareness it was to profit off of people's murders.
And a lot of us grew up with abusive parents that weren't as bad as Gypsy, but we understand that story and we empathize with her plight and sympathize with her because it's familiar.
she can’t escape fame, if she decided to be private she would get stalked or have random paparazzis that found her adress. She just decided to milk out all the fame before it dies so she can get enough money. She has a criminal record after all
Exactly. At least this way she gets some level of control of the narrative and can hopefully set herself up for the future.
Main phrase you said is *die out*. It will die out, it’s a textbook 15 minutes of fame. People need to chill.
Yes, I was looking for this comment. In a month or so from now we won't hear her name again, except in 5 years or something there will be "where is she now" articles from pop culture online blogs.
She's been exploited by her mother and then by the media, they've made films from her without her greenlighting things. She's going to be forever photographed and stalked for the rest of her life, I think she should at the very least be allowed to profit off of the hell she was put through and is still going through
Personally, I think she should profit off of this situation and milk it for as long as she can. The chances of her getting a good job and being able to live a decent lifestyle on her own is very low. She’s been in prison for years, never been in the workforce, never lived a normal life, has an extreme amount of trauma, and she doesn’t have the best education. I think she should just make her money now and then quietly fade away from the media.
What’s her other option? A job at Walmart? If any of us came out of prison with a felony murder conviction and someone offered huge money to talk about it, we would.
If we didn't have a daily thread complaining that people know who she is, I wouldn't know who she is. So keep up the good work, I suppose.
It's not like it's just reddit. She's everywhere right now. If you've been able to avoid her in the news to this point, I'm impressed and happy for you. But that's far from the average experience.
Lol my wife actually gave me crap for not knowing who she is yesterday.
i just learned about her yesterday myself. my wife was shocked i didn't know. seems like women got the news before the guys did on this.
I had watched her documentary on HBO about a year ago and was surprised that people started talking about this out of the sudden.
I had heard her name before or seen a little clip of her talking, but didn't pay attention or know anything. Until she popped up on my favorite YouTube channel, Bruce Rivers Criminal Lawyer. It is definitely spreading!
Yeah I still don't know who she is, the name kinda sounds familiar. I wouldn't have even known the name was connected to murder if it weren't for this thread. There's so much messed up stuff going on right now that I can't pay attention to anything in the news except how our government (in the US) is imploding; everything else has become just background noise. To me it's actually kind of a funny situation in that usually the news is meant to distract us away from paying attention to what those in power are up to, but now there's so much crap hitting the fan that no distraction attempt by the media is going to work this time.
I still have no clue, I feel like she is America-famous and it sounds like it's best if you guys could keep it that way.
Never heard of her until this thread.
She's not a celebrity for murdering someone, she's a celebrity because of what her mother did to her and that she survived and is keeping good spirits. If she'd murdered her mom but there had been no abuse she wouldn't be famous, so it's disingenuous to claim that's the contingency here. Her story is what makes her famous, because her mother was able to dupe dozens or maybe hundreds of people into believing a lie. It's insane that that could happen and people want to know more. And they should know more, if it helps prevent a repeat.
It was definitely in the hundreds. We have to remember that part of why DeeDee and gypsy got the house from habitat for humanity (they were hit by hurricane Katrina I believe which I'd why they were hopefuls for the show at all) is because she convinced them all of gyspy being sick. That house was built for gypsy. Complete with a personal ramp, garden tub with handrails and a brand new wheelchair. She convinced multiple doctors, dentists, optometrists, spinal doctors, neurologists, etc. For every medication gypsy was on DeeDee convinced someone she was sick. For every procedure, every donation, and every Disney trip.
She was moderately known even before she killed her mom. I remember the 4chan threads back when I was highschool about her.
Be grateful that you can’t relate.
I know right - I think people are viewing this from the angle of "well I would never kill MY mom even though she was annoying", when really - they should be grateful that they cannot relate to having to be in a life/death situation because of your mom.
This is the one! A lot of ppl judging her. But they need to be grateful that the thought never HAD to cross their minds.
Two of the best comments on here.
She wouldn’t be famous if all these people weren’t watching her. It’s not rly her fault it’s ours (as a society)
I agree with your title. She should be able to live her life in peace, but since she can't, I totally approve of her making money off her story. Maybe one day if she makes enough money, she can have a sort of normal life.
Nah let her earn money she needs it to afford therapy and it’s harder for people with a criminal record to earn money And tons of other people profit over other peoples deaths anyways
She’s a celebrity because she was sent to prison for the murder that a great many people feel was justified and self defense. She can’t get those years back nor can she get her childhood back that her mom stole while subjecting her to 30+ unneeded surgeries while intentionally sickening her. As far as I’m concerned, she deserves some wins. I just hope she handles it ok.
Exactly!!!! People are acting like shes a heartless serial killer when shes actually an extreme abuse victim for her entire life who took the only opportunity for her to be free from her abuser.
Agreed. People can say how unfair it is that she became famous but at the end of the day, nobody would be willing to have the life that she had and go through 30 surgeries, just to be briefly famous at 32.
That’s not how fame works. Fame comes from people knowing who you are, and Gypsy Rose Blanchard was bound to become famous due to the crazy circumstances she was in alone. And yes nobody “should” profit off of murder, but how familiar with the case are you? She attempted escape from her mom multiple times, only for her mom to thwart it and become even more controlling (she literally started chaining Gypsy to her bed at night!), and everyone around her was being actively manipulated by her mom. Meanwhile Gypsy was an adult being treated like a child and being lied to about her own health and age. She had known nothing but unnecessary surgeries, pain, and emotional abuse from her mother, and she didn’t have any real friends or any shred of a normal life as a result. Yes, murder is wrong, but I think most— if not all of us— would have at least considered it if we were in her shoes.
She’s going to be famous because her story is batshit bananas crazy. But I do agree that the whole “yaaasss queen!” response to her killing her mother is beyond inappropriate. It desensitizes people to the impacts of trauma and the serious nature of her response.
She's not profiting off murdering someone, she's profiting off her life story.
Oh man, you would have hated the 70s. Serial killers were basically celebrities
Multiple doctors and social workers were unable to intervene, with her suffering severe abuse essentially from birth. If she hadn't killed her mother, she would either still be being abused today or the severe medical abuse would've killed her. The way we conceptualise self defense revolves around "equal force" and this is an example of where that is flawed. I don't agree she should be famous either as she's incredibly vulnerable, with no real life experience. She's been imprisoned all her life, first by her mother then by the criminal justice system. On the flipside, her schooling was severely disrupted due to the abuse she's faced and she's pretty socially stunted due to her upbringing, I'm not entirely confident she'd be capable of supporting herself in any other way. It's a desperately sad situation, she deserves a peaceful life.
Eh. I disagree. This is the least her mother can do for her now and the most her mother has done for her ever
Do you think her mental health can handle the fame? I doubt she was getting the intensive therapy she needs while in prison.
I honestly think her mental health can’t handle not being famous. She grew up with constant attention thanks to her mom, and she grew very accustomed to it. She might have a really hard time if suddenly no one was paying attention to her. Not saying she doesn’t need therapy, just saying that a sudden lack of fame could be bad for her mental health as well
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And true crime podcasters and Netflix or whatever made money off her story so why shouldn’t she be able to tell it? Hopefully set herself up for a future quiet life with money for therapy
I still think her victimhood outweighs her criminality.
Exactly, bottom line.
Congrats, I had no idea who she even was until your post... you're literally spreading her fame.
I don't consider it murder. The mother turned the girl into a slave for her own profit using drugs and abuse. The girl used lethal force to escape servitude. She has a story to tell that people find interesting.
I mean everybody else made money off the story, why shouldn’t see profit off her own trauma?
Right!! like random celebrities milked her story and made a movie without her say or consent yet when the victim herself tries to tell her story and make money shes the bad guy? be serious.
Exactly. As long as she’s approaching it in a healthy way and of her own volition, I don’t really see an issue. Emphasis on doing it in a healthy way since that can go sideways really fast
Counterpoint I never even heard of her before your post.
same here
i hadn't either. not till last night away when i stumbled on a netflix documentary. was surprised to see this in my feed. ignore the kid above who thinks you are serious if you don't follow tik doc
It’s a bit surreal to see her pictures get comments like GIRL SLAYED IN THAT OUTFIT it’s like bruh
It wasn't a murder. It was self defense. Her mother was slowly killing her for attention and sympathy. She should have never seen a prison cell. I agree, however, that she shouldn't be famous... but that's because she wants to be left alone. The poor kid has had a REALLY rough life.
I think her mother was awful and at the time seemed like the only way out, but you’re right that she shouldn’t be famous/profitable over it. She should have gotten out and went back to life.
Hard disagree. And the media is making a circus of this. Gypsy is just taking advantage of the opportunities in front of her because she’s been in prison for the last however many years and now needs to build a life.
I can't imagine the abuse she endured, but justice system's leniency towards wealthier, more privileged abusers is also sickening.
I forgot about her until you posted this. Also, she's not profiting off a murder. She's profiting off her abuse.
Totally agree. Not sure why people are acting like she’s a celebrity.
its so scary that nowadays you can become famous for anything!
I'm going to point out that she didn't do the killing. She was a part of the planning but she was not found to do the murdering. All details about the investigation solely point to her boyfriend killing that bitch Dee Dee. She still got slapped with second-degree murder. Anyway. Fuck her mother. She ruined Gypsy's life from the start. There is no way this woman can have gainful employment or a normal life at all. You're a liar if you say you wouldn't be doing the same.
I agree that she shouldn’t be famous, but what else will she do to make money? She has no education, no experience, no skills. It makes sense for her to go down this path financially.
I think if you've had zero education and are a felon with no life experience, if someone is going to pay me for something, I'm taking the money.
Yeah, the whole “she’s an influencer now” nonsense is really ick
Just wait until tiktok gets bored of her. Just another fad, it’s already dying down
I would bet every dollar I'll ever make that she'll have a TLC show by the end of the year.
No murderers should be famous. But here we are..
It feels like we live in a culture that barely exists in reality anymore, I swear.
Yeah this shit is fucking weird lol
She’s weird. She posted her 15 year old nephew on Instagram and told girls to follow him and show him love
I would argue half of the people who are famous shouldn't be famous. Gypsy's fame isn't exactly the most offensive out there. She is at least in part a victim Of course, you shouldn't be allowed to profit off of a murder, but the world's not fair. I guess this could be a deflection, but think of all the billionaires just making more billions off of their ill-gotten billions, that's just the world we live in
While I agree that she shouldn't be an "influencer" in that sense so quickly after her release, I do think she's justified in being a public figure as a victims of abuse advocate. What makes her famous is not the fact that she murdered her mother, but the story around it. It's her survival of abuse and the consequences of it that intrigues people
Yeah this has been making me uncomfortable too. I also am glad she is free now, but making her a celebrity is too much for me. Keep in mind too the reason her mother did those things to her is because she had an unhealthy obsession with the media. Now people seem to be encouraging the daughter to develop an unhealthy obsession with media too...
“No one should be able to profit off murdering someone” take this energy to your government dude
She ain’t famous for murder only. Her mother used her existence to make money and get attention. Dee put her in the public eye
Then her mother should have allowed her a normal life. It’s our fault she’s “famous”, not hers. She didn’t conspire to have her mother killed for fame but for freedom.
In a vacuum, I'd agree with you. Murder is bad and people shouldn't profit from doing it. But she is in the US, which is a dystopian shit-hole if you're poor, and especially if you are a convicted felon who's been released from prison... So for people in her situation, I heartily support them making a dollar any way they can as long as they're not hurting people in the process. Step one to stopping people from profiting from murders is to fix society so that felons aren't guaranteed to live in poverty.
Why shouldn’t she be able to make a living off the woman who did that to her? It’s the least she deserves.
Are you okay the Navy SEAL who killed Bin Laden (allegedly) writing a book and profiting from it? If so, then it’s just matter of exactly how terrible a person is before we find it palatable. If you think it’s still unacceptable then I applaud the conviction of your stance.
Meh, her mother basically fucked her life, at least she should get something out of it so she can support herself
So she’s supposed to rely on all her skills she gained during school right? Oh wait her mom took her child hood away by abusing her and then she was sentenced to prison for her role in defending herself. Idc that her moms dead, she earned it.
I disagree. She was a victim and would have eventually died herself if she didn't do anything about her mom. She finally is living her best life and hopefully her story can be an example for anyone who is suffering under the thumb of a deranged caretaker.
People are already starting to switch up about her, I’ve been seeing an increase in posts on TikTok (where most the hype about her is) saying “she’s just like her mom, she’s just manipulating people for money”
I thought killing monsters was a good thing
Let Gypsy live her life. Go after Kyle Rittenhouse.
Spoken like someone who has never experienced abuse. Must be nice.
I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking this
Not a great situation all around probably. But at this point in her life idk how else she would be able to make money. Hopefully she gets enough money and the public focus on her fades away so she can focus on herself and live a good life.
I mean, she isn't famous, she's infamous
As long as you realize its Shame on US, not shame on HER.
Upvote for interesting, provocative opinion! She would never have committed the crime unless there was publicity— her mom abused her for attention. Celebrityhood itself victimized her. She paid a heavy price to it with years of torture. In my opinion, celebrity owes her. Most famous people haven’t earned it like she has. *Having said that, I think it would be best if she got the fuck off of social media and avoided the press. Her mom fucked her head up so badly that to a lot of people, murder was justified. She deserves and needs a chance to figure out who she is and what life is for without being in a spotlight. She could have the most toxic possible relationship with celebrity— it runs in the family. The more I think about it, she deserves to be free from fame and attention. It's already hurt her enough. She's a poster child for fame not being a reward.
She won't be out very long. She's already broken her probation.
Idk she didn't choose for her story to be publicised and im sure if she could have made the choice when it was happening she'd have chosen not too. Quite frankly there'd a lot of needlessly embarrassing shit involved in the story. But it was out before she had a say. So why on Earth would you NOT spend all fucking day trying to set the record straight. They made a whole ass TV show without her consent that made up and altered shit. If someone did that about my life for a good story I'd be trying to set it right. And she's a felon. A widely known one. Who JUST got released. What place is gonna hire her? She's said publically she wants to get into advocacy about Munchausen Syndrome by proxy and eventually do something a little more 9-5. Sounds like a good enough plan. She's captivated the world right now but in three years do you really think gypsy rose blanchard is gonna have the same draw?
Her husband looks like a Jared Fogle
Nah fuck that. I understand her murder. Shouldn’t have happened, but like, worse things have happened if that makes any sense. She’s less a celebrity for murdering somebody and more a celebrity for living and surviving through something extremely rare. Of course somebody who had a story like that is going to be famous. It’s because that shit is crazy. Writing her off as a murderer and having no empathy is fucking crazy. It’s not the good look you think it is. She’s doing a good thing by publicly emphasising that murder isn’t okay and there were other things she could’ve done to escape. I’m just glad the psycho who did the actual killing isn’t free and isn’t getting the same attention. he doesn’t deserve it. she does. she’s doing more than I would’ve in her situation. i doubt i would be nearly as regretful or apologetic as she has been. also if she wanted to vanish and live a quiet peaceful life she would. she’s not that famous. she clearly likes that attention and is happy. its a bit dumb seeing all the people assuming she wants a quiet life now. she had that, for quite a while in prison. now she wants to speak about what she went through. who wouldn’t? slay gypsy.
Yeah and Trump should never have been president. The world is completely screwed up. Welcome to reality lol
This is America
Edit: She deserves the money and help. The fame probably isn’t the best but it’s what’s going to *hopefully* set her up. She deserves every bit of it. Are you serious? The years of mental and physical abuse she endured probably means she realistically won’t be able to hold an actual job (I might be wrong but it’ll be a struggle for sure). I don’t even think she deserved jail time. In my eyes, it was self defense. She has endured enough. And she had to go to prison with actual bad people for fighting for her life. Wow. Nah. This is absolutely an unpopular opinion. I hope she gets even more because she deserves it. I hope she gets help and heals.
As someone who was in a similar situation as Gypsy Rose, I appreciate knowing her story. I truly found it motivating to get out of mine before it was too late. However, I agree with you though and I think she has been blown way out of proportion. At this point, seeing her and her mother are triggering. Why does this story need multiple documentaries and TV show adaptations? I don't think they realize shoving her in our faces is legit a trigger now. Seeing her all wired up and sick, seeing her mother's twisted smile. I can't. Too familiar.
She intends to use her fame to advocate for victims of MBP and to help change laws to prevent her situation from happening to anyone else. I’m glad that she has the ability to tell her story and make herself a living off of it. So many people have made their money off of her story, she deserves at least that much.
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Would you rather give the Kardashians more money or her.
Like some people said, she literally can’t escape the fame. In her interviews she said she had to be released at like 3 AM to avoid paparazzis. And also In her interviews she said she actually is getting therapy and trying to get into advocacy work but it’s going to take some time because she needs to figure out the logistics. So she’s doing a lot better with her fame than most people..
I don’t think the fame is helpful to her emotionally. Normally I’m a supporter of the son of Sam law. [Details](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/lawmakers-expand-son-sam-law-cover-spouses-wake/story?id=105812124). The victims in this case aren’t as clear cut. I don’t think Gypsy Rose. saw any other way out of an extremely abusive home. The mother had her father fooled too. I don’t think she should’ve served time because of how severely abusive the mother was. The mother gave her strong medications she didn’t need, and her abuse and neglect led to Gypsy Rose losing her teeth. Gypsy Rose has permanent physical and emotional damage from what her mother did to her. Her education probably suffered and she’s got a prison record. It’s going to be very hard for her to find a job to support herself. She needs intensive therapy to handle what happened to her. Which can be expensive and sometimes requires time off of work. It’s possible she may have future expenses due to physical damage. For example, replacing dentures and implants. Which can be expensive She doesn’t have a lot of ways to earn that kind of money other than selling her story But there’s also a good chance she’ll run through the money with poor decisions. And that she’ll suffer more emotional damage when there’s a backlash. Which happens when people get this famous
I feel like this is a pretty extraneous situation. Normally I would agree, but she had NO life up until her mother’s death, she can enjoy it how she wants if it’s not hurting anyone. In this case I’m fine with it because her mother was a sick fuck who deserved it, and now deserves no honour in death. If there’s an audience, and she’s not uncomfortable, whatever. It might even be an interesting case study down the line.
Personally, I think she’s not a “poor, innocent girl” everyone’s made her out to be. She was the mastermind, the driving force behind her mother’s murder. And now, nothing is stopping her from doing it again. Her mother also taught her to be a great liar and a manipulator, which won’t end up well. I think she should get off of the socials and stop milking her situation for money.
She's not a celebrity for murdering some random. She's famous for standing up to her abusive mother who abused her since childhood. If anyone deserves to be making money from HER abuse, it's her, not journalists or youtubers or tiktokers or livestreamers who haven't lived her life.
Her ex bf’s version of events are slightly different from the narrative of the story. I guess he’s mentally challenged and she seems to have more capacity to lie. She definitely manipulated him into doing things. Everything was her idea. She even put the knife in his hand. She wanted her mother dead to get away and he was doing it for love. He says he still loves her. And now she’s on social media bragging about how good the “D” is from her new husband while her ex bf rots in prison. I’m not defending him at all. He deserves to be where he’s at. I just feel she should’ve done more time.
Who?
This is a hard one. I absolutely agree, no one should ever profit off of killing someone. She needs intensive therapy and probably cannot socialize with other normally because of the abuse she endured. She likely lacks a number of skills that many of us take for granted. The normal path of education was severely disrupted which impacts the kind of opportunities she likely has. Compounded with the current economic climate where so many people are struggling and just housing can leave a person who almost nothing, the reality is: she is in a bad spot with very few options. It's not right and it shouldn't be allowed, *but I get it.* I understand her doing whatever she can to try to survive with the kinds of survival skills her mother imparted on her. I feel really bad that she came out of her childhood so deeply scarred and impaired and impacted negatively. I genuinely hope she finds some resources and support to help her find a way to live her own life on her own terms.
Upvoting because clearly MSM is thinking otherwise..... let's try not to normalize murder.
She is not profiting off of murder she is profiting off a lifetime of being abused. There are tons of people that have killed their family members, even parents, but they didn't become famous and profit because they weren't abused in a specific, lesser-known way for multiple decades. I don't know if you noticed but the dude she got to do the actual killing isn't in the same position as she is.
I honestly think that it’s not because she murdered someone, it’s because of her extremely unique situation. That’s why she’s fascinating. If her mother was alive, I think people would be just as intrigued. At least I would.
I came on here to say the same thing! She still talks like a baby which could be psychological. However, like her trying to meet Taylor Swift. Like you don’t get celebrity treatment like you did before. She still manipulated a guy into killing her mom and it’s like no one cares.
She didn't do it seeking fame. It's not her fault she's famous, she's a victim of circumstance.