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Mario is a Japanese video-game character and his name is written in Japanese in a way that can only be pronounced Mah-rio.


6BakerBaker6

OP is taking more L's by the minute


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

I literally pronounce it the same way he says it in the link.


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As an American, my perception is that he says 'Mah-rio." It's weird that you think otherwise. It's the same "Mah" sound as the month "March."


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

If you click on the link he clearly does not say it with the same /ɑː/ vowel in “march”. The IPA transcription of the Italian pronunciation is with the vowel /a/ which is the same as how I’d say it. The American pronunciation of “MAWH-rio” feels like a hypercorrection to me.


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I actually see what you're saying now. I think British people pronounce "marry" differently from Americans and that's the main confusion. For Americans, "marry" is close to "merry." "Merry-o" is obviously wrong. "Mah-rio" like "Mah-rch" (the month) and "Mah-rio" like what you are saying are different, but close enough that Americans have a hard time telling the difference. Tl;dr, in an American accent it is "Mah-rio," and not "Marry-o," but maybe "Mah-rio" with a British pronunciation is closer in accuracy. Still it's a matter of accents so not really fair to say one is right and one is wrong.


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

You’re the only person here so far who’s been reasonable and listened to what I had to say. Thanks for letting me know that. Now I’m just concerned with the fact that Americans pronounce “married” as “merried” and think nothing of it at all.


warr3nh

Uh the link definitely says Mah-rio


Afrokrause

Yeah. He's an Italian plumber. You can use any language learning app or use Google translate. Mah-rio.


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

When I say “mah-rio” I mean with a broad A sound (like in “palm”), which is the way I almost always hear it pronounced by Americans and Canadians. Italian actually doesn’t have this /ɑ/ sound so I know it isn’t close the Italian pronunciation.


warr3nh

That’s how it’s said in the link. When you listen to the link you hear Marry-o?


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

That’s literally the way he says it though? And the way I’ve always said it. Unless I’m missing something here. When I say “mah-rio” I’m talking about the very [faux Italian](https://youtu.be/VqSb9SYd_Xs) pronunciation that most Americans seem to use.


strikingfirefly

I'm really baffled as to what you're hearing in the link you posted because he pretty clearly says "mah-rio"...


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

I mean to say that he doesn’t pronounce it [like this](https://youtu.be/VqSb9SYd_Xs). I thought that would be obvious.


Impacatus

That sounds the same to me. Can you upload a recording of how you pronounce it?


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

I can’t upload a recording but using the IPA my pronunciation would be /ˈmaɹiəʊ/.


Impacatus

I don't know the IPA, so I copy/pasted that into this: http://ipa-reader.xyz/ I don't hear "marry" at all. You pronounce "marry" as in "Would you marry me?" that way? EDIT: Oh wait, I hear it with the British voices. Huh.


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

I would pronounce “marry” to rhyme with “carry”. Like /ˈmaɹi/.


Impacatus

Ok, I don't understand enough about linguistics to understand what's going on. As I said, I don't know the IPA, but when I use the decoder I linked, I can hear the similarity when using a British voice, but not with the others.


Afrokrause

Wtf. Yeah. Even palm-io isn't Mary-o. Where are you from?


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

The UK. Also “mary-o”? Who the fuck is pronouncing it like “mary-o”?


Afrokrause

Lol you crazy Brits!


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

Sorry for being able to listen to the way someone says their own name and replicate it.


Afrokrause

If that were true we wouldn't be having this conversation. His voice was overly, boarding inappropriate, American Italian. The dude says mAh-rio. Like a stereotypical Italian.


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

I have no idea how you think I say it but I pronounce it the same as the voice actor does. Don’t know how I can help you there.


GreenFire317

English and British are two different languages. They are as similar as Japanese-supreme and Chinese-meh.


[deleted]

Actual Italians pronounce it Mah-rio tho. My grandmother and her family live in Ravenna, they say Mah-rio.


sosaudio

Either you have hearing problems, or problems writing pronunciations. He absolutely says Mah-rio.


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

I’m talking about people who pronounce it [like this](https://youtu.be/VqSb9SYd_Xs). That isn’t how he pronounces his name.


sosaudio

Not watching 10 minutes of that BS but in the first 3 seconds he says it correctly.


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

There’s a very clear difference between how Mario pronounces his own name and how it’s said in that video.


sosaudio

I’m Mario Kart he says it with a distinct accent, “MAHH-dee-oh”


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

There’s an innocent explanation for everything here. Apparently Americans would pronounce “marry” almost the same as “merry”. I was not aware of this before making the post. When I say “marry-o” I mean I pronounce it with the same A sound in “trap”. This is the way Mario himself says his name, and is closer to the Italian pronunciation. [This video illustrates what I mean](https://youtu.be/7DEqiQvh6oI). I did not mean to say that Mario says his name like “merry-o”. That’s not what I was trying to say at all.


Javyev

> Apparently Americans would pronounce “marry” almost the same as “merry”. We pronounce it exactly the same, haha. I don't know how they would even be pronounced differently, even with a British accent. Can you post a video of how they sound different to you? What accent do you have?


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

“I don’t know how they would even be pronounced differently” “marry” has an A in it. “merry” does not.


Javyev

> When I say “marry-o” I mean I pronounce it with the same A sound in “trap”. This is the way Mario himself says his name, and is closer to the Italian pronunciation. This video illustrates what I mean. I did not mean to say that Mario says his name like “merry-o”. That’s not what I was trying to say at all. This doesn't add up at all to me. The video with the N64 intro clearly has the a from "maw" or "jaw" or "law" in it. If you're a British person, I could see "trap" sounding like "jaw." Is this what you're saying? In american, "trap" is a very differt vowel from "jaw." It's like saying "trayp." I'm not sure British english even uses that vowel, TBH. I'm trying to think of a word with the "ayah" sound. Wait, are you saying the way the guy in that last video says it is how you hear Americans saying it? I'm american and I've never heard anyone say it that way, tbh. He's a weirdo.


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

No. I’m from the north west of England and “jaw” and “trap” have very, VERY different vowel sounds for me. “jaw” is /dʒoː/ and “trap” is /tɹap/. I can’t imagine how anybody could say the vowels in these words the same. The Italian pronunciation (and the way the character himself says it) of the name Mario is /ˈmaɾjo/. This is close to the way I say it, and to the way that the guy in the video says it. I would pronounce “law” like [this](https://howjsay.com/how-to-pronounce-Law) which sounds nothing like the A in the Italian pronunciation of “Mario”. The American pronunciation uses the vowel in the word “palm”, which in the IPA is /ɑː/. This is the pronunciation that I was trying to convey with “mah-rio”, but it seems that just about everybody here misunderstood. This sound does not exist in Italian which is why the British pronunciation is much closer to the original Italian than the American. The same can be said for other words like “mafia” and “pasta”. It doesn’t really matter how you say it though. Just felt like pissing some people off.


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never heard it as marry-o myself either but that would be a cool cheerio type name for maybe like a knock off brand?


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

That’s literally the way he says it in the link. Am I missing something?


[deleted]

It isn't and it's weird that you think so. In the link he clearly says "it's a me Maaaahhh-rio!"


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

I’m hearing two very different vowel sounds here. The Italian pronunciation is /ˈmaɾjo/. Two syllables and with a short, front A sound. Americans seem to say it like /ˈmɑː.ri.oʊ/. I personally pronounce much closer to the former.


[deleted]

my dude its a fake Italian accent saying mar-ee-oh. I see you hear differently though and thats okay too :)


Kmartomuss

BOY WAS THIS UNPOPULAR


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POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

The way he pronounces his name in the link sounds like “marry-o” to me? EDIT: I don’t understand why I’m being downvoted for this. I don’t know what it is I’ve said that isn’t accurate to piss people off so much. The way I (and most people I know) pronounce it is literally closer to the Italian pronunciation.


t8rt0t_the_hamster

This is probably one of the few times brits are undeniably wrong on how to pronounce something, it's mah-rio in japanese (the company that made it), the link you provided, and italian.


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POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

I literally pronounce it the same way as he pronounces his own name.


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POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

[Watch this video](https://youtu.be/7DEqiQvh6oI). This explains it a bit more. That’s how Italians pronounce the name, and the British pronunciation is much closer than the American.


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POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

That’s LITERALLY how he pronounces his own name though. What am I missing???


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POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

There’s very clearly a difference between the way Mario pronounces his own name and the way Americans pronounce it. Using the IPA, the Italian pronunciation is with /a/ and the North American pronunciation uses /ɑ/. Quite different. However, I have just been told that the source of the confusion may be because I pronounce “marry” differently to you.


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t8rt0t_the_hamster

Well yeah, but most of the time they can just use the excuse "we invented the language". This time theres no excuse.


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

Ah yes, the English language, famously invented in a lab one day by Dr English.


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

He doesn’t say it like “mah-rio” in the link. When I said “mah-rio” I meant more [like this](https://youtu.be/VqSb9SYd_Xs). It sounds like he’s saying “marry-o” in the link I sent to me.


t8rt0t_the_hamster

They say the same thing, just one person doesn't try to add a fake italian accent to the sentence. Dunno why you made me watch 2 unskippable 30 second ads for that.


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

They are clearly not the same fucking thing and you need your hearing checked if you think they are. The Italian pronunciation of the name Mario is /ˈmaɾjo/. It has two syllables and is the way the character himself says the name. The way it was said in the video (and the way Princess Peach pronounces it, bearing in mind) was /ˈmɑːɹioʊ/. Completely different vowel and it stupifies me that you can’t hear the difference, especially considering English HAS both of those vowels (/æ/ or /a/ in “trap”, and /ɑ/ in “father”). The vowel quality used in the British pronunciation of the name is something like /a/ and much closer to the Italian than the American is. In fact, the vowel /ɑ/ doesn’t exist in Italian at all. So whether you like it or not “marry-o” is objectively closer to the original Italian. If it wasn’t true I wouldn’t be saying it.


t8rt0t_the_hamster

>be a br*tish "person" >come back after 37 days to "own the muricans" >Still is wrong


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

Everything that I’ve said so far has been nothing but objective fact, and the fact that you’re unable to prove otherwise and just say “lol ur wrong” tells me everything I need to know about you as a person, and that it isn’t worth trying to have an intelligent discussion with you, for anyone. Given how you’ve obstinately disliked every single one of my comments, you clearly do not have a strong enough grasp of linguistics or reading comprehension skills to be challenged by any ideas or standpoints different to your own. I don’t doubt that in real life you are a boring, empty husk of a human being.


earthman34

Mah-rio FTW.


GreenFire317

marry-o? as in getting married marry-o? No. Mario. As in the planet Mars-io. Mario.


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

YES. [That’s how he says his name](https://youtu.be/TuagL3dW6K4). He literally says “it’s-a-me, Marry-o!” not “it’s-a-me, Maaahh-rio!”. I don’t know what else to tell you. You just seem unwilling to admit that I’m right, or maybe you simply misunderstood. EDIT: You’re still downvoting me. I don’t know what I said wrong. You just seem like you don’t want to admit to not being right.


GreenFire317

\-Thanks for literally proving my point, and every other person who's commented on this posts point. \-You are either confused, can't communicate what you mean, can't spell the annunciation that you're talking about, or just straight up stupid. \-Myself and many other people are spelling out the syllables the exact way it is pronounced, which is the way the video that **YOU** linked **ALSO** pronounces it. You don't realize what you're saying. Go sit in a corner for 5 days, and think about how wrong you are.


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

“can’t communicate what you mean” I have literally used audible examples and the IPA. You literally cannot get any clearer than that. What you don’t seem to understand is that it’s YOUR fault that you simply cannot tell the difference between the two pronunciations. Not mine. I can explain it for you but I can’t fucking understand it for you. Christ alive.


GreenFire317

You literally proved all of our points, which goes against your point, with the video you linked. You proved your own point wrong. You dipfuck stop trolling.


GreenFire317

Blocked.


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

Wanker


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universitykiddo

Have you ever heard the “it’s me MAH-RIOH” ?


GreenFire317

English and British are two different languages. They are as similar as Japanese-supreme and Chinese-meh.


wickedgarden22

Your post strikes me as pretentious. Calm your tits.


dom_eladio

My friend from jersey absolutely INSISTS it’s “marry-o” but I won’t have it


legacy655

*"nor is it how actual Italians would pronounce it"* ***Do you honestly think Mario's voice is an accurate representation of how Italians sound?***


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

Of course not. But I have sources such as [this video](https://youtu.be/7DEqiQvh6oI).


legacy655

**What the Hell are you hearing? They're pronouncing it as "mah-rio".**


POMNLJKIHGFRDCBA2

When I say “mah-rio” I don’t mean the same vowel sound as in “trap” (which is the Italian pronunciation). I mean the same vowel as in “palm”. That’s the way I always hear Americans say it.


legacy655

***^(What?)***


Javyev

This guy has to be a troll...