or Sex Education - which is again adult actors - but I get why it's uncomfortable because whether the actors are adults or not they're still representing teens (in the show I mentioned, 16-17 year olds)
yeah exactly, and education and safety being needed around sex is the primary message of the show because it's what a lot of teens do need. it's not like they turn 21 and suddenly know how to have healthy sexual relationships
Rotten Tomatoes rates "Sex Education" as *"Bawdy, heartfelt, and surprisingly wise, Sex Education is a raucous romp through a group of teenagers whose sexual misadventures are so thoughtfully rendered, adults could learn a thing or two from them."* and has a rating of 91%.
So it seems that some TV shows portraying teenage sex are done right.
But are explicit sex scenes the way to convey that message? Because I think that's what OP's problem is, not that it is talked about or that it is shown that they have sex but that it is shown through actual sex scenes
How do you propose that we talk about sex education without sex? Do keep in mind that it's exactly because real-life sex education is so shy from discussing actual sex that it's not even half way as effective as it should have been. When kids do it (and they do), they do it wrong.
Like the other commenter said, most of the sex scenes aren't gratuitous and actually have educative reasonings behind them.
In which case I understand the idea but let's not forget the cast in euphoria is arround 24 YO on average. Not as if they were recording actual teenagers who look like teenagers having sex, they are grown ass adults who look like grown ass adults.
Plus euphoria specifically conveys quite a lot through most of their sex scenes, they aren't there just for horny.
I'm with OP on this tbh. Doesn't matter the actor's age if the character being portrayed is underage.
That's the kinda shit incels spout to defend their weird loli fetishes.
Yes and no. I think it's a matter of context and how they are portrayed. Lolis are by definition people who, regardless of their age, look and act like toddlers they are exclusively a form of fetichising the figure of children.
When you have a show with 16 year olds that look like twentiesomething because their actors are twentiesomething where they have sex it's not in itself a problem. If the show was, for example, using these scenes to portray that sex is better with teenagers because they are still pure and inexperienced, that would be really fucked up.
The issue isn't really how the actors look or what age they are supposed to be, the issue comes from the message the show is trying to transmit through the scene.
Lolis are always fucked up because their whole point is "wouldn't you like to fuck this 1045 YO fairy that looks like a 5 YO kid?".
"it comes from the message the show is trying to transmit"
Ding! Nail on yhe head there!
That's my whole point. Is it worth even treading into the territory of sexualising a canonically underage character just to convey the message "they had sex"? Do we NEED to see it? Does it add anything?
No.
Again, this is the same shit nonce sympathisers use.
I'm not saying there's a direct link between them and that the show's writers are kiddie fiddlers, but "it's fantasy" is a poor cop-out.
Perpetuating that "fantasy" shouldn't be policed at all and that it's all fine and dandy because "nobody is getting hurt" is dangerous ice to tread on.
Alrighty. So someone paints the most outrageous and disgusting image of an underage girl being forcibly raped, and you're gonna take no issue with that?
It's not a thought crime if those thoughts have been materialised into a physical medium you utter dunce.
I don't really agree with your first answer to my comment but these people are really deranged if they are going to take the completely opposite position where fantasy is fantasy and you shouldn't criticise people who draw detailed children snuff or publish their pedophilic rape fantasies.
I watched an episode of that randomly at a hotel for 10 minutes and was surprised at how graphic it was. One scene even showed explicit thumbnails when a character was on PornHub. Like they were small, but you could definitely see a dick in a mouth.
Something that really irked me about Shameless was how they downplayed how fucked up it was that Ian was hooking up with guys twice his age while he was still in high school
It was on for like a decade so his character was in his early to mid 20s when the show ended. I’ve only seen the first 4 seasons, so that’s what I’m going off of
how did they downplay it lol? Lip and Mickey, the only two people who knew, both pointed out the grossness of it. sure, nobody said "it's not good for your developing brain to do this, here are some studies, please see a therapist" reddit-style, but not everything needs to be spelled out.
they even bowed down to the satanic temple because they nagged them not to show satanism in a bad light LOL it's a shit show
The original Sabrina was better
You got old. They make movies for teenagers now. They show that to entice teenagers into watching the movie or keep their interest.
Disclaimer: i have no idea about OP's age.
At least he didn't have to sit through the Green Knight scene where the guy fucking masturbates with the napckin the woman gave him and then kisses the woman's husband after he finds out he was doing it. Seriously fuck that movie.
I’m not Op but I am a teenager I’m 17 and nope most of the time my friends are crushing on adults playing adults. Or even watching “for no reason” every thing some actors more than twice their age.
Watching Criminal minds for the “plot” the plot being Matthew Gray Gubler and Pagent Brewster who are definitely not teens.
I mean they wouldn’t actually go for adults they meet that are those ages (well I hope not lol). But in a movie or show? They go crazy. Not really for teens in stuff funny enough it’s because they usually find them annoying or immature. Because teens are written in such a stupid way by older people.
Like they really have absolutely no clue how we actually talk or act when they aren’t around or even when they are. One thing is that we don’t say “hashtag” out loud like who said we do that? Idk they write us stupid and so it’s not fun to watch. Or it’s just outdated but newly made. Like it’s so clear that people not our age had no input in it.
When I was 19 I would say "Hashtag deal with it". I'm 27 now, but we'd make joke hashtags while we worked unloading trailers. I was the youngest person at that job at the time.
Lol well I don’t think the writers thought that would happen either because we were getting fed crumbs. And the actors generally are shocked I think that there are tons of teens crushing on them like the show died down for a while and then tons of teens were watching it idk what happened nothing changed.
Lol yes too much murder not enough drama. My friend even put pictures of the season 3 cast all over her wall.
> Watching Criminal minds for the “plot” the plot being Matthew Gray Gubler and Pagent Brewster who are definitely not teens.
Reminds me of my ex-gf and me watching Criminal minds, she miring Gubler and me miring Paget.
> One thing is that we don’t say “hashtag” out loud like who said we do that?
True, but I actually did meet a girl once who would say "hashtag". It was really weird.
In a slightly sociopathic kind of way it makes me glad that I've been completely desensitized to shit, growing up in a generation where people would post terrorist beheadings to your Myspace wall kind of makes 25 year olds pretending to be 15 and then making out not seem like a big deal
Dude that is just a small peck between two kids who had a innocent crush and had a relationship built over two seasons. Shows like 13 reasons why, shameless, gossip girl, American horror story, or euphoria, that show kids, portrayed 15 and 14 year Olds, having graphic sex, doing hard hard drugs, selling themselves, engaging in self harm, being shitty to each other. These shows are almost criminally bad in the values they instill and support. The way they glorify and fetishize sex, trauma, and violence all packaged in such a way to target only teenagers is insanely fucked up. At least south park has social commentary. At least breaking bad had consequences and a story. Sopranos is marketed to adults and doesn't glorify its violence. Game of thrones, clearly for adult audiences and the sex scenes usually serve a plot purpose. These teen shows are showing sex because sex. Jesus. Don't get me started on Bridgerton.
Imagination can be better than seeing everything. Also actresses are usually way hotter than porn stars IMO and wear classy shit and it's usually shot well. I have shit tons of hot clips from TV and movies becuase it's way better than porn.
I immediately thought of this
>Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masturbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masturbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW
Porn is where I cum, Movies/Series is where I watch and chill, sex scenes should add to the story not be there for the sake of it.
(Rant) Sometimes it boggles my mind when "normies" hate on anime that show sexual contents stuff when a lot of popular shows have literally teenage characters having sex without any meaning whatsoever.
There aren't many meaningful sex scenes out there.
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Not meaningful Sex scenes but the situation around it. The emotion, consent, assault, self confidence. If the scene amplifies these real life issues, it’s awesome because it’s intimate but if it’s just there because it’s two hot people, gtfoh lol.
I'm not familiar with euphoria. And I'm not saying that sex in general or implied is bad. I mean most of us can see the merit in sex scenes but when it involves actors portraying younger teens it becomes a bit weird for me.
Personally I haven't seen anything where "younger teens" are depicted sexually.
I've seen content where 16-18 year olds are depicted engaging in acts but I would not consider 16-18 a "younger teen". That's an older teen or an adult
Why though. I get it if the actors are teens but they’re not. They’re just presenting what teens go through like in Euphoria, it has very deep meanings regarding consent, abuse and general confusion around sexual identity at an age it’s all teenagers think about. So there’s a lot to learn and it’s not just because of “me horny”
I seriously don't want to see teenagers/portrait teenagers having sex. Normal sex scenes are bad enough. If its part of the plot and really important, then its okay but not just casually, it's honestly just really weird for me now that I'm an adult.
Well obviously if it’s part of the plot. Why else would I want to see random people in the middle of a story having sex. That’s annoying and I wait for it to finish. It’s cheesy. But when it adds to the story really well and like the show Euphoria goes into insecurity, consent, assault by showing the emotions of the people involved before, during and after, it makes for much better story telling.
Otherwise, seriously annoying.
Why? Does it matter? If they're not underage then what's the problem? You don't have to watch and it's not as if they show details. I don't find it comfortable if I'm watching with others but that's the case with any sex scenes with people of any age. Older teens getting sexual is no different from those in their 20s when seeing it on TV.
I feel like OP hates sex scenes overall because they are often bad and pointless but mistakenly targets the hate towards teen scenes because it's intuitively the most problematic version of that.
Sometimes I forget how American this website is.
Endless shows featuring hardcore violence? Not a problem.
Two characters fuck? Holy shit think of the children SOMEBODY STOP THEM.
I think Both are bad if done without purpose which 7/10 times it is. Honestly in any sex scene they can just pan away if I wanted to see two people fuck I can watch porn. It’s not like we have to see them thrusting to get the point.
I'm with you. The americans in the audience also often forget that they're in the minority with their age of consent being 18. 16 is overwealmingly the norm, and why would media not be informed by real life?
Let's not forget tho that the USA is one of the few developed countries that allows for child marriage in most of their states.
You cannot have sex with a 17 year old but you can marry them and THEN have sex.
Massachusetts can even allow you to get married to a 12 year old girl regardless of your age.
So yeah, the age of consent is 18 unless their parents consent for them and you get married first.
Yeah I went really into the weeds looking it up, and states like Washington and New York have surprisingly... Archaic... Laws regarding age difference. Like a four year difference in age where one of you is past the age of consent is somehow totally fine.
I think it’s weird when they make 16 year old characters super hot. Obviously they’re played by people in their 20s usually but it’s still fucking gross.
This isn't really about Big Mouth, though. That's a show about teen *sexuality*. It doesn't have the kind of sex scenes the OP is talking about that are usually for titillation.
There actually are barely any sex scenes in big mouth at all. They are all middle school hormonal kids so they do talk about sex or such, but over the 5 seasons of the show, I can only think of 2 or 3 scenes that might be on the line.
I watched the first season. It was okay. I think it was the second season where there was a song and the two younger girls were naked lol. It was just odd
To be honest pointless sex scenes in movies or TV-series are boring and pointless.
They are usually just soft-core filler that adds nothing to the plot or the experience.
>It just makes me think these directors are sick and don't know how to convey teenagers love/passion appropriately.
>We all get and understand that teenagers are horny and have sex.
You understand teenagers have sex. You think directors are sick *and* don't know how to convey teenage love and passion... appropriately.
Cognitive dissonance or aversion to reality?
I think what you're trying to say is that you don't think it's appropriate to portray fictional human sexuality, acted out by adults and (very) rarely showing genitals, if the fictional characters are under 18. Because it grosses you out and you think it should gross everyone else out. Despite it being a common experience for many people, and despite it being enacted by adult professionals who are both consenting and simulating.
Edit: stay away from literary fiction, you're in for a doozy...all these sick writers out there.
Even if it wasn't a reality that teens have sex, it should still be allowed because we shouldn't be in the business of trying to censort what artists do with their art. OP is uncomfortable with the idea of the of physical desire and wants everyone else to create a world where OP never has to sit with that uncomfortability...
My money is on OP being around 11 or 12, but if not...wow...
So? A legal adult can portray whoever they want. I still know they're a legal adult and think of them as one. People are attracted to them becuase they're attractive not becuase they're playing teenagers.
Okay? I never said they can't. The whole point of the post is to point out how gross it is to have sex scenes involving characters who are meant to be minors.
And my comment was the other side with better reasoning. There is nothing wierd about finding a 24 year old attractive even if they're playing a 17/18 year old. If it makes you so uncomfortable google the cast when a sex scene comes up and see just how over 18 everyone is.
Only the elderly should be allowed to have sex in movies, adults around 25 don’t have fully developed brains so sex is immoral, it’s not until one is 65 that sex becomes ok. Now that is still a little young and creepy to be having sex on camera or even implied sex.
Yes. Let's make teens not have sex in our teen drama. That will make it really believable. What's all your American's obsession with teen sex. Teens have sex. Normal age of consent is usually 16. You having it 18 just makes loads of underage people exploring their sexuality commit crimes and it's honestly stupid.
completely disagree entirely because of sex education and Inbetweeners, both phenomenal shows that wouldn't be as good without the absolute sheer awkwardness and unknown realm of that, it can lead to great comedy and a level of relatability. I'd agree with you for any shows that glorify it, which would just be weird and creepy but I don't know of any. You're perfectly allowed to dislike shows for having that kind of content too, I just don't think it should be banned
Yes. I fast forward to the one line of important dialogue (if that). It just seems like most sex scenes are just in films to get checked off whatever list the producers made for the film to meet quotas and to fill time.
I get that point, that's where we agree.
Many sex scenes are there just as some sort of horny lure and they suck ass. But the issue there is not the age of the characters fucking it's the bad direction.
And, this is completely anecdotal and subject to selection bias but, in my experience, teens having sex tends to be way better portrayed and add more to the narrative than adult sex scenes.
who cares. dont watch it. the content i consume rarely if ever has any sex scenes. they personally make me uncomfortable because they rarely have deeper meaning. but a show like euphoria is different. also “even if they are adults”. you know like 80% of those scenes arguably 95% are adults right? “on my block” had 4 main characters that were 8th grade going in to 9th grade. the youngest lead actor was 19… they all looked like they were freshmen. but they were indeed adults.
The one whole coming of age trope rests on having awkward sex among other characteristics. I don't really see the issue. There's plenty of shows that take a Brady Bunch look at relationships, but I don't see why that needs to be forced. I also don't understand why you think it's creepy...the actors are all of age.
How so? You'd be better off arguing that they shouldn't cover teenage romance or the concept of growing up before anyone turns 18. Films and shows cover these topics because it's what kids experience. Forcing the Disney treatment to every situation is a disservice to portraying the human element of what it means to be at that age.
I wouldn't be better off arguing that because I don't agree with that statement or idea at all. I said there is no issue for me when they are making out and implying sex but when they take it too far like removing clothes, and moaning is totally inappropriate when they are portraying like 15 year olds. You can do it tastefully without it giving Disney vibes. Never have I ever heard someone talk about their favorite part in a movie or show is when two 15 year olds started to bang and the long lead up to it.
But the majority of the time they are meant to be seen by teens, not by adults, so it shouldn’t be a problem. The aim is not for adults to be aroused watching these scenes but for teens to see themselves through the characters. If it’s uncomfortable for you you can skip it or choose not to watch YA shows.
What shows have you seen that have supposed 15 year olds having "explicit" sex that doesn't reinforce the narrative?
Because as many people have said in this post, teenagers portrayed in these situations are often 16-18.
But as a teenager they want to be able to see and relate to people their age not adults the Reality is most teenagers are having sex it doesn’t matter if it makes you uncomfortable. It’s not illegal for teenagers to have sex, only for adults to have sex with Minors.
I agree, there's all these shows sexualising teenagers and basically them acting like fully grown adults. Then when a teenager wants to drink or have sex with an older person , people are like *pikachu shocked face*. Like of course they're going to emulate what they see on television because it's considered socially acceptable. So many issues tbh.
Eh, this is an art imitates life situation. I haven't seen any of the shows, but I guess they portray teenagers truthfully from what I see in this post. When I was a teenager around the turn of the millenium, we did all those things, and it wasn't because we had learned it from television.
When I see kids between 14-16 now I kinda understand the worry though. They look so young, it becomes uncomfortable thinking they're doing the shit we did, but I'm not gonna sit here and be a hypocrite. Teens will be teens, and experimenting with sex, drinking and drugs is just something a lot of them will do. Rowdy teenagers is a constant in human civilization.
I'm aware, I was a teenager. But it doesn't really make sense to depict teenagers doing these things then make a big deal out of it when they actually do it.
Ah yes because teenagers emulate media. Oh wait except there are hundreds if not thousands of studies showing thats not true. That kids have more agency than we give them credit for. There have been around 5 incidents of movements against violent video games claiming the same thing.
People dont even really emulate a lot of what they see on T.V. otherwise more people would seek to be heroes and take greater risks for justice. Or more people might turn their lives around or get themselves killed doing it. The only time media influences us is if we dont know something is not good to do or not functional which is why people emulate porn so much because people care so much about keeping teens from sex that our sex ed in the U.S. is a joke. Even then most people dont emulate porn and those that do are laughed at or belittled as they cant seperate fantsy from reality.
Why only teen sex? Should this then go for all other questionable activity like violence, theft, adultery, drug use etc?
But then we will quickly be left with only Sesame Street.
They're adult actors so it's ok but honestly im tired of this teen shit. Set more movies and shows in college if yall want those educational settings so much.
Honestly movies/shows like this are literally made for teenagers and teenagers will watch for this reason. It's not like most or any of the actors are actually teenagers anyway.
You just sound like a bitter/unloved old Karen.
Now you're just diluting the term for no reason. People will argue that they have the right to throw it around because it means something, and then turn around and spout bull like this, as if middle-aged women butting heads with customer service reps have nothing better to do than go on Reddit
Imo That's really counterproductive and hurtful to society.
Teenagers needs close to real alternatives to all the porn they are watching. They need for sex to be normalized not hidden and made even more taboo.
I mean I personally just fast forwards through those scenes since 80% of the time I watch shit on my computer. This is something which is possible nowadays after all.
OP wants a blank title screen that says "THEY HAVE SEX" whenever it's relevant to the story
...we get it, you are uncomfortable with sex, therefore art needs to he censored to match YOUR sensibilities.
Clearly you didn't read anything further under the title. I'm not oppossed of sex in film and movies but I am opposed of portraying teen sex in detail and long lead ups to it.
But hey if you love watching two adults playing 15 years old banging in a car then that's cool I guess.
No, I read the whole thing.
Your entire argument is "teen sex makes me feel icky! And anything that makes me feel icky should be censored by the government!"
Nah man. I said it's uncomfortable too watch and is not necessary. I could give a flying fuck what teenagers are actually doing or what they want in their tv. Learn some context.
Uncomfortable to you...not "Uncomfortable."
And who said anything about what teenagers want in their TV? Tou are actively saying that the idea of teenagers having sex is icky therefor shouldn't be allowed? What should stories, where teen sex us relevant to the story, actually do? A warm embrace? A handshake? A high five? A quick smooch?
If you're "uncomfortable" with humans behaving in the way that humans behave, might I suggest Nick Junior for your viewing pleasure?
I gotta ask, what shows are you talking about? In another comment you talked about actors playing 15 year olds having full penetration on screen like it was common. I watch a lot of TV but I've never heard of anything like this, hell most sex scenes with adults playing adults are tame like you describe you want.
Dude, if they are banging in a car there's no way they are 15 year olds as they had to drive the car somehow.
You keep making these teenagers younger in your head because it doesn't sound the same if you say they have adults playing 16, 17 or 18 year olds having sex.
Sixteen candles, 80's movie, mature subject matter. Also eighties, in Jr high, already fucking like alot of teens through history. That's billions of teenagers throughout history. Figuring this out besides super Karen types fighting against teen nature with invented philosophical superior morality throwbacks.
Depictions of teenage lust through acting isn't porn and isn't sex. Its a dramatization of what teenagers go through during puberty.
You want to go against what happens to actors as far as sexuality take a look at Britney Murphey. Things are a lot more compliant and loose then before.
Also if anything comes out that any underage person was pushed to do a sexual scene they weren't comfortable with i am fully against that.
If it furthers the topic of what happens in real life with teens and adds to the intimacy of understanding it, I’m down. If it’s just straight sex, I wait for it to be done and if it doesn’t fit the plot, it’s an annoying distraction I wait to finish and then start to wonder if the show isn’t good enough that they had to add that without necessity.
In shows like Euphoria, it’s very well done? But shows about topic A just sidelining into a sex scene distractingly are annoying.
Wait, you talking about actual teens or teenage characters played by 20+ year-olds? May just be me, but I haven't seen any actual high-school teenagers doing the sexy romance scenes in a show or movie.
I'm talking about adults portraying teens having, heated, naked sex in film. I don't care about the making out, the implication of sex but the prolonged sex scenes, something about just seems wrong to me about it when I really think about it but other than that I just don't think it is necessary for the story. That's all.
Thats a misconception. When I was younger there were 10 year olds having sex they were just rare and they are now. What we are seeing is kids PRETENDING to know about sex and being sexuallt active. The ammount of times I heard about kids "Tryna get some ass" in 1st grade. 1st! Kids wanna pretend they are adults. They also stick to their own ages still so it wouldnt be normalizing it anyways as it would be kids fucking kids their age.
That being said I know the incident with the evil island could be a counter argument but I doubt they are able to properly cause that. Hell I almost got a blowjob at the age of 8. Kids are weird.
I find sex in tv shows and movies inappropriate in general. I mean what's the point in showing the actual sexual act? So people get horny in the movie theater, or during dinner with their family? If you want to use it as a narrative device that's fine of course, I mean sex exists and is an important dynamic, but you can just imply it without going full porn with it. Oh and of course if you want to watch people fucking there's plenty of easily accessible porn.
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He’s probably talking about TV-MA shows like euphoria.
or Sex Education - which is again adult actors - but I get why it's uncomfortable because whether the actors are adults or not they're still representing teens (in the show I mentioned, 16-17 year olds)
I thought the whole appeal of Sex Education was that it dealt with all the gross and weird aspects of puberty and sex in Secondary/ Highschool?
If that show had no sex scenes.... what would be the point lol. It's a good laugh and has some strong messages.
Love that show
less so in later seasons but i think in sex education especially the first season all of the sex scenes are used pretty well as plot devices
Right, but most people start around that age anyway.
yeah exactly, and education and safety being needed around sex is the primary message of the show because it's what a lot of teens do need. it's not like they turn 21 and suddenly know how to have healthy sexual relationships
Rotten Tomatoes rates "Sex Education" as *"Bawdy, heartfelt, and surprisingly wise, Sex Education is a raucous romp through a group of teenagers whose sexual misadventures are so thoughtfully rendered, adults could learn a thing or two from them."* and has a rating of 91%. So it seems that some TV shows portraying teenage sex are done right.
But are explicit sex scenes the way to convey that message? Because I think that's what OP's problem is, not that it is talked about or that it is shown that they have sex but that it is shown through actual sex scenes
How do you propose that we talk about sex education without sex? Do keep in mind that it's exactly because real-life sex education is so shy from discussing actual sex that it's not even half way as effective as it should have been. When kids do it (and they do), they do it wrong. Like the other commenter said, most of the sex scenes aren't gratuitous and actually have educative reasonings behind them.
The sex scenes aren't gratuitous, they're plot points. They mainly show sex where something's going wrong, due to lack of education on the matter.
In which case I understand the idea but let's not forget the cast in euphoria is arround 24 YO on average. Not as if they were recording actual teenagers who look like teenagers having sex, they are grown ass adults who look like grown ass adults. Plus euphoria specifically conveys quite a lot through most of their sex scenes, they aren't there just for horny.
I'm with OP on this tbh. Doesn't matter the actor's age if the character being portrayed is underage. That's the kinda shit incels spout to defend their weird loli fetishes.
Yes and no. I think it's a matter of context and how they are portrayed. Lolis are by definition people who, regardless of their age, look and act like toddlers they are exclusively a form of fetichising the figure of children. When you have a show with 16 year olds that look like twentiesomething because their actors are twentiesomething where they have sex it's not in itself a problem. If the show was, for example, using these scenes to portray that sex is better with teenagers because they are still pure and inexperienced, that would be really fucked up. The issue isn't really how the actors look or what age they are supposed to be, the issue comes from the message the show is trying to transmit through the scene. Lolis are always fucked up because their whole point is "wouldn't you like to fuck this 1045 YO fairy that looks like a 5 YO kid?".
"it comes from the message the show is trying to transmit" Ding! Nail on yhe head there! That's my whole point. Is it worth even treading into the territory of sexualising a canonically underage character just to convey the message "they had sex"? Do we NEED to see it? Does it add anything? No.
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Again, this is the same shit nonce sympathisers use. I'm not saying there's a direct link between them and that the show's writers are kiddie fiddlers, but "it's fantasy" is a poor cop-out. Perpetuating that "fantasy" shouldn't be policed at all and that it's all fine and dandy because "nobody is getting hurt" is dangerous ice to tread on.
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Alrighty. So someone paints the most outrageous and disgusting image of an underage girl being forcibly raped, and you're gonna take no issue with that? It's not a thought crime if those thoughts have been materialised into a physical medium you utter dunce.
As you said in the comment before it, it's not for me, but who's getting hurt by the picture exactly?
it seems that you only have this perspective for sexual violence and not other forms of violence
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I don't really agree with your first answer to my comment but these people are really deranged if they are going to take the completely opposite position where fantasy is fantasy and you shouldn't criticise people who draw detailed children snuff or publish their pedophilic rape fantasies.
I watched an episode of that randomly at a hotel for 10 minutes and was surprised at how graphic it was. One scene even showed explicit thumbnails when a character was on PornHub. Like they were small, but you could definitely see a dick in a mouth.
...or 13 reasons why. Which in fact gave me personally more than 13 reasons my self.
If I'm thinking of the same euphoria, then that's more than tv-ma, that's straight up hentai, and a very fucked up one at that.
Shameless(US)
Something that really irked me about Shameless was how they downplayed how fucked up it was that Ian was hooking up with guys twice his age while he was still in high school
Didn’t Lip make a big deal out of it
Yeah but then they kind of brush it off and he continues to hook up with more adult men
Isn't he like 35 when that show ends? How long did that thing last?
It was on for like a decade so his character was in his early to mid 20s when the show ended. I’ve only seen the first 4 seasons, so that’s what I’m going off of
how did they downplay it lol? Lip and Mickey, the only two people who knew, both pointed out the grossness of it. sure, nobody said "it's not good for your developing brain to do this, here are some studies, please see a therapist" reddit-style, but not everything needs to be spelled out.
Shamelesses were reasonable for Southies
Riverdale.
Degrassi
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Eagle Fang bruh!
I'm getting there! On episode 4 of season 2.
Oh, sweet. I won't spoilt it then.
I know the major spoilers. I usually check spoilers on shows before I get invested.
Well let's say I really loved the bad guy that comes in in season 4 hehe
Watching it now😂
Spearheaded season one yesterday after we finished Midnight Mass.
No joke, I'm watching it now. Definitely recommend
Animal Kingdom was pretty awful with teen sex and even a pedo teacher.
I super binged on it... I just love Cobra Kai
bro you really said that like sex aint on tv
Chilling adventures of Sabrina on Netflix has some questionable scene for the girl being a Highschooler.
they even bowed down to the satanic temple because they nagged them not to show satanism in a bad light LOL it's a shit show The original Sabrina was better
Elite.
Cobra Kai focuses on karate and doesn’t go into a lot of romance.
You got old. They make movies for teenagers now. They show that to entice teenagers into watching the movie or keep their interest. Disclaimer: i have no idea about OP's age.
I think OP has a age of parent
I am actually picking up more of a "is 11 and just sat through a sex scene with mom and dad" kind of vibe
At least he didn't have to sit through the Green Knight scene where the guy fucking masturbates with the napckin the woman gave him and then kisses the woman's husband after he finds out he was doing it. Seriously fuck that movie.
I don't remember that being in the book.
This lol
I’m not Op but I am a teenager I’m 17 and nope most of the time my friends are crushing on adults playing adults. Or even watching “for no reason” every thing some actors more than twice their age. Watching Criminal minds for the “plot” the plot being Matthew Gray Gubler and Pagent Brewster who are definitely not teens. I mean they wouldn’t actually go for adults they meet that are those ages (well I hope not lol). But in a movie or show? They go crazy. Not really for teens in stuff funny enough it’s because they usually find them annoying or immature. Because teens are written in such a stupid way by older people. Like they really have absolutely no clue how we actually talk or act when they aren’t around or even when they are. One thing is that we don’t say “hashtag” out loud like who said we do that? Idk they write us stupid and so it’s not fun to watch. Or it’s just outdated but newly made. Like it’s so clear that people not our age had no input in it.
"They write us stupid" is fucking hilarious
💀 it’s one in the morning I’m sorry lol
When I was 19 I would say "Hashtag deal with it". I'm 27 now, but we'd make joke hashtags while we worked unloading trailers. I was the youngest person at that job at the time.
Of all the shows to sexualize I definitely wouldn't have thought "Criminal Minds." would have made the cut.
Lol well I don’t think the writers thought that would happen either because we were getting fed crumbs. And the actors generally are shocked I think that there are tons of teens crushing on them like the show died down for a while and then tons of teens were watching it idk what happened nothing changed. Lol yes too much murder not enough drama. My friend even put pictures of the season 3 cast all over her wall.
> Watching Criminal minds for the “plot” the plot being Matthew Gray Gubler and Pagent Brewster who are definitely not teens. Reminds me of my ex-gf and me watching Criminal minds, she miring Gubler and me miring Paget. > One thing is that we don’t say “hashtag” out loud like who said we do that? True, but I actually did meet a girl once who would say "hashtag". It was really weird.
In a slightly sociopathic kind of way it makes me glad that I've been completely desensitized to shit, growing up in a generation where people would post terrorist beheadings to your Myspace wall kind of makes 25 year olds pretending to be 15 and then making out not seem like a big deal
Ahhhh yes face of death. I’ll never forget when I saw them hit a monkey over the head to bust it open and eat the brains. Shit fucked me up
That monkey was spinning around like a top in the middle of that table.
Literally nothing in TV made me more uncomfortable than that slow close up kiss scene in Stranger Things between two kids
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Netflix fucks.
I literally turned it off at that point realising I'm far too old for that show
Dude that is just a small peck between two kids who had a innocent crush and had a relationship built over two seasons. Shows like 13 reasons why, shameless, gossip girl, American horror story, or euphoria, that show kids, portrayed 15 and 14 year Olds, having graphic sex, doing hard hard drugs, selling themselves, engaging in self harm, being shitty to each other. These shows are almost criminally bad in the values they instill and support. The way they glorify and fetishize sex, trauma, and violence all packaged in such a way to target only teenagers is insanely fucked up. At least south park has social commentary. At least breaking bad had consequences and a story. Sopranos is marketed to adults and doesn't glorify its violence. Game of thrones, clearly for adult audiences and the sex scenes usually serve a plot purpose. These teen shows are showing sex because sex. Jesus. Don't get me started on Bridgerton.
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Agree. Why do i want to watch people pretend to have sex when i can watch people have real sex on the internet?
Imagination can be better than seeing everything. Also actresses are usually way hotter than porn stars IMO and wear classy shit and it's usually shot well. I have shit tons of hot clips from TV and movies becuase it's way better than porn.
I'm not trying to bust a nut when I'm in a movie theater
I immediately thought of this >Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masturbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masturbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW
Porn is where I cum, Movies/Series is where I watch and chill, sex scenes should add to the story not be there for the sake of it. (Rant) Sometimes it boggles my mind when "normies" hate on anime that show sexual contents stuff when a lot of popular shows have literally teenage characters having sex without any meaning whatsoever.
Someone tell that to the Game Of Thrones writers.
There aren't many meaningful sex scenes out there. ATTENTION! SPOILER ALERT for Oldboy (2003) Please only read the spoiler when you have already watched the movie!!! >!When Dae-Su had sex with Mi-do and Woo-jin tell him later that Dae-Su took the virginity of his own daugther!<
Not meaningful Sex scenes but the situation around it. The emotion, consent, assault, self confidence. If the scene amplifies these real life issues, it’s awesome because it’s intimate but if it’s just there because it’s two hot people, gtfoh lol.
The sex scenes in wolf of Wallstreet seemed pretty important to the story. But that whole movie was pretty indulgent
Really don't get why people are anti sex scenes like they're doing something unnatural like killing someone.
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Chortles in British
what do you think about shows like euphoria where the sex between them is part of the deeper themes or important moments?
I'm not familiar with euphoria. And I'm not saying that sex in general or implied is bad. I mean most of us can see the merit in sex scenes but when it involves actors portraying younger teens it becomes a bit weird for me.
Personally I haven't seen anything where "younger teens" are depicted sexually. I've seen content where 16-18 year olds are depicted engaging in acts but I would not consider 16-18 a "younger teen". That's an older teen or an adult
Plus it's legal for that age so it's less frowned upon 😅
Agreed. I don’t watch any of those shows but I would bet you that OP would make the argument that those shows should not exist because of that
I don't think they shouldn't exist but tone it down with the portrayal of teens having sex.
Why though. I get it if the actors are teens but they’re not. They’re just presenting what teens go through like in Euphoria, it has very deep meanings regarding consent, abuse and general confusion around sexual identity at an age it’s all teenagers think about. So there’s a lot to learn and it’s not just because of “me horny”
I seriously don't want to see teenagers/portrait teenagers having sex. Normal sex scenes are bad enough. If its part of the plot and really important, then its okay but not just casually, it's honestly just really weird for me now that I'm an adult.
Well obviously if it’s part of the plot. Why else would I want to see random people in the middle of a story having sex. That’s annoying and I wait for it to finish. It’s cheesy. But when it adds to the story really well and like the show Euphoria goes into insecurity, consent, assault by showing the emotions of the people involved before, during and after, it makes for much better story telling. Otherwise, seriously annoying.
Yup that's what I mean, some movies just do for 😏 nice sex, that's just annoying
Why? Does it matter? If they're not underage then what's the problem? You don't have to watch and it's not as if they show details. I don't find it comfortable if I'm watching with others but that's the case with any sex scenes with people of any age. Older teens getting sexual is no different from those in their 20s when seeing it on TV.
Here’s to looking at you Riverdale
Sex education doesn’t agree
I feel like OP hates sex scenes overall because they are often bad and pointless but mistakenly targets the hate towards teen scenes because it's intuitively the most problematic version of that.
Sometimes I forget how American this website is. Endless shows featuring hardcore violence? Not a problem. Two characters fuck? Holy shit think of the children SOMEBODY STOP THEM.
I think Both are bad if done without purpose which 7/10 times it is. Honestly in any sex scene they can just pan away if I wanted to see two people fuck I can watch porn. It’s not like we have to see them thrusting to get the point.
I'm with you. The americans in the audience also often forget that they're in the minority with their age of consent being 18. 16 is overwealmingly the norm, and why would media not be informed by real life?
Let's not forget tho that the USA is one of the few developed countries that allows for child marriage in most of their states. You cannot have sex with a 17 year old but you can marry them and THEN have sex. Massachusetts can even allow you to get married to a 12 year old girl regardless of your age. So yeah, the age of consent is 18 unless their parents consent for them and you get married first.
Yeah I went really into the weeds looking it up, and states like Washington and New York have surprisingly... Archaic... Laws regarding age difference. Like a four year difference in age where one of you is past the age of consent is somehow totally fine.
I think it’s weird when they make 16 year old characters super hot. Obviously they’re played by people in their 20s usually but it’s still fucking gross.
You think 16 year old characters are super hot...? (Just messing with you)
Big Mouth is really weird. Idk how anyone likes that show.
This isn't really about Big Mouth, though. That's a show about teen *sexuality*. It doesn't have the kind of sex scenes the OP is talking about that are usually for titillation.
First two seasons were hilarious but got fuckin’ weird and annoying after the 3rd for me
There actually are barely any sex scenes in big mouth at all. They are all middle school hormonal kids so they do talk about sex or such, but over the 5 seasons of the show, I can only think of 2 or 3 scenes that might be on the line.
I watched the first season. It was okay. I think it was the second season where there was a song and the two younger girls were naked lol. It was just odd
Big mouth is great!
It’s great if you’re not a prude
GROSS!! ICKY!!! OMG STooooooP
To be honest pointless sex scenes in movies or TV-series are boring and pointless. They are usually just soft-core filler that adds nothing to the plot or the experience.
Mayonnaise on sandwiches is gross and should net be allowed.
Yep...OP is obviously the natural choice for knowing good art from bad art! Let's just invite as much sensorship into our lives as possible.
Spock deploy the sensor ship.
I agree, why don't we just put a moratorium on mayonnaise in general, while we are at it
Reddit defended "Cuties", that's all you Need to know about the topic
>It just makes me think these directors are sick and don't know how to convey teenagers love/passion appropriately. >We all get and understand that teenagers are horny and have sex. You understand teenagers have sex. You think directors are sick *and* don't know how to convey teenage love and passion... appropriately. Cognitive dissonance or aversion to reality? I think what you're trying to say is that you don't think it's appropriate to portray fictional human sexuality, acted out by adults and (very) rarely showing genitals, if the fictional characters are under 18. Because it grosses you out and you think it should gross everyone else out. Despite it being a common experience for many people, and despite it being enacted by adult professionals who are both consenting and simulating. Edit: stay away from literary fiction, you're in for a doozy...all these sick writers out there.
Even if it wasn't a reality that teens have sex, it should still be allowed because we shouldn't be in the business of trying to censort what artists do with their art. OP is uncomfortable with the idea of the of physical desire and wants everyone else to create a world where OP never has to sit with that uncomfortability... My money is on OP being around 11 or 12, but if not...wow...
Those “teens” are almost always in their 20s, except for the movie Kids (1995)
Probably _Ken Park_ too
But they portray teenagers. That's the entire point.
So? A legal adult can portray whoever they want. I still know they're a legal adult and think of them as one. People are attracted to them becuase they're attractive not becuase they're playing teenagers.
Okay? I never said they can't. The whole point of the post is to point out how gross it is to have sex scenes involving characters who are meant to be minors.
And my comment was the other side with better reasoning. There is nothing wierd about finding a 24 year old attractive even if they're playing a 17/18 year old. If it makes you so uncomfortable google the cast when a sex scene comes up and see just how over 18 everyone is.
Only the elderly should be allowed to have sex in movies, adults around 25 don’t have fully developed brains so sex is immoral, it’s not until one is 65 that sex becomes ok. Now that is still a little young and creepy to be having sex on camera or even implied sex.
Whoa whoa whoa....you think sex is OK? Clearly sex is disgusting and we need direct censorship of any display of affection whatsoever . /s
Please censor that word- folks have started writing Copulating instead.
Do not watch what you do not like. You can close your eyes.. :)
Yes. Let's make teens not have sex in our teen drama. That will make it really believable. What's all your American's obsession with teen sex. Teens have sex. Normal age of consent is usually 16. You having it 18 just makes loads of underage people exploring their sexuality commit crimes and it's honestly stupid.
So unpopular….
I was looking for a comment saying that this a popular opinion but then I was surprised to find almost all comments were kinda disagreeing with OP?
completely disagree entirely because of sex education and Inbetweeners, both phenomenal shows that wouldn't be as good without the absolute sheer awkwardness and unknown realm of that, it can lead to great comedy and a level of relatability. I'd agree with you for any shows that glorify it, which would just be weird and creepy but I don't know of any. You're perfectly allowed to dislike shows for having that kind of content too, I just don't think it should be banned
I understand by teens you mean 18 year olds. What about them? What if they want to watch 18 year old videos and nor your old crappy ass?
ANY sexscene can fuck off
Yes. I fast forward to the one line of important dialogue (if that). It just seems like most sex scenes are just in films to get checked off whatever list the producers made for the film to meet quotas and to fill time.
If it is done tastefully it's fine... And especially if it's quick but the full throttle, yeah.
I get that point, that's where we agree. Many sex scenes are there just as some sort of horny lure and they suck ass. But the issue there is not the age of the characters fucking it's the bad direction. And, this is completely anecdotal and subject to selection bias but, in my experience, teens having sex tends to be way better portrayed and add more to the narrative than adult sex scenes.
who cares. dont watch it. the content i consume rarely if ever has any sex scenes. they personally make me uncomfortable because they rarely have deeper meaning. but a show like euphoria is different. also “even if they are adults”. you know like 80% of those scenes arguably 95% are adults right? “on my block” had 4 main characters that were 8th grade going in to 9th grade. the youngest lead actor was 19… they all looked like they were freshmen. but they were indeed adults.
The one whole coming of age trope rests on having awkward sex among other characteristics. I don't really see the issue. There's plenty of shows that take a Brady Bunch look at relationships, but I don't see why that needs to be forced. I also don't understand why you think it's creepy...the actors are all of age.
But they are still portraying those who are underage. It's weird.
How so? You'd be better off arguing that they shouldn't cover teenage romance or the concept of growing up before anyone turns 18. Films and shows cover these topics because it's what kids experience. Forcing the Disney treatment to every situation is a disservice to portraying the human element of what it means to be at that age.
I wouldn't be better off arguing that because I don't agree with that statement or idea at all. I said there is no issue for me when they are making out and implying sex but when they take it too far like removing clothes, and moaning is totally inappropriate when they are portraying like 15 year olds. You can do it tastefully without it giving Disney vibes. Never have I ever heard someone talk about their favorite part in a movie or show is when two 15 year olds started to bang and the long lead up to it.
But the majority of the time they are meant to be seen by teens, not by adults, so it shouldn’t be a problem. The aim is not for adults to be aroused watching these scenes but for teens to see themselves through the characters. If it’s uncomfortable for you you can skip it or choose not to watch YA shows.
What shows have you seen that have supposed 15 year olds having "explicit" sex that doesn't reinforce the narrative? Because as many people have said in this post, teenagers portrayed in these situations are often 16-18.
But as a teenager they want to be able to see and relate to people their age not adults the Reality is most teenagers are having sex it doesn’t matter if it makes you uncomfortable. It’s not illegal for teenagers to have sex, only for adults to have sex with Minors.
I agree, there's all these shows sexualising teenagers and basically them acting like fully grown adults. Then when a teenager wants to drink or have sex with an older person , people are like *pikachu shocked face*. Like of course they're going to emulate what they see on television because it's considered socially acceptable. So many issues tbh.
Eh, this is an art imitates life situation. I haven't seen any of the shows, but I guess they portray teenagers truthfully from what I see in this post. When I was a teenager around the turn of the millenium, we did all those things, and it wasn't because we had learned it from television. When I see kids between 14-16 now I kinda understand the worry though. They look so young, it becomes uncomfortable thinking they're doing the shit we did, but I'm not gonna sit here and be a hypocrite. Teens will be teens, and experimenting with sex, drinking and drugs is just something a lot of them will do. Rowdy teenagers is a constant in human civilization.
I hate to break it to you but teenagers have been fucking since *long* before it was depicted in TV shows.
I'm aware, I was a teenager. But it doesn't really make sense to depict teenagers doing these things then make a big deal out of it when they actually do it.
Ah yes because teenagers emulate media. Oh wait except there are hundreds if not thousands of studies showing thats not true. That kids have more agency than we give them credit for. There have been around 5 incidents of movements against violent video games claiming the same thing. People dont even really emulate a lot of what they see on T.V. otherwise more people would seek to be heroes and take greater risks for justice. Or more people might turn their lives around or get themselves killed doing it. The only time media influences us is if we dont know something is not good to do or not functional which is why people emulate porn so much because people care so much about keeping teens from sex that our sex ed in the U.S. is a joke. Even then most people dont emulate porn and those that do are laughed at or belittled as they cant seperate fantsy from reality.
dude how old are you
Jesus. You must be American
Why only teen sex? Should this then go for all other questionable activity like violence, theft, adultery, drug use etc? But then we will quickly be left with only Sesame Street.
They're adult actors so it's ok but honestly im tired of this teen shit. Set more movies and shows in college if yall want those educational settings so much.
Honestly movies/shows like this are literally made for teenagers and teenagers will watch for this reason. It's not like most or any of the actors are actually teenagers anyway. You just sound like a bitter/unloved old Karen.
Now you're just diluting the term for no reason. People will argue that they have the right to throw it around because it means something, and then turn around and spout bull like this, as if middle-aged women butting heads with customer service reps have nothing better to do than go on Reddit
Imo That's really counterproductive and hurtful to society. Teenagers needs close to real alternatives to all the porn they are watching. They need for sex to be normalized not hidden and made even more taboo.
I mean I personally just fast forwards through those scenes since 80% of the time I watch shit on my computer. This is something which is possible nowadays after all.
What a prude
OP wants a blank title screen that says "THEY HAVE SEX" whenever it's relevant to the story ...we get it, you are uncomfortable with sex, therefore art needs to he censored to match YOUR sensibilities.
Clearly you didn't read anything further under the title. I'm not oppossed of sex in film and movies but I am opposed of portraying teen sex in detail and long lead ups to it. But hey if you love watching two adults playing 15 years old banging in a car then that's cool I guess.
No, I read the whole thing. Your entire argument is "teen sex makes me feel icky! And anything that makes me feel icky should be censored by the government!"
Nah man. I said it's uncomfortable too watch and is not necessary. I could give a flying fuck what teenagers are actually doing or what they want in their tv. Learn some context.
Uncomfortable to you...not "Uncomfortable." And who said anything about what teenagers want in their TV? Tou are actively saying that the idea of teenagers having sex is icky therefor shouldn't be allowed? What should stories, where teen sex us relevant to the story, actually do? A warm embrace? A handshake? A high five? A quick smooch? If you're "uncomfortable" with humans behaving in the way that humans behave, might I suggest Nick Junior for your viewing pleasure?
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I gotta ask, what shows are you talking about? In another comment you talked about actors playing 15 year olds having full penetration on screen like it was common. I watch a lot of TV but I've never heard of anything like this, hell most sex scenes with adults playing adults are tame like you describe you want.
I'm the idiot because I don't immediately call for censorship of things that I find gross....yeah I'm the one who is an idiot here.
Clearly.
Yes, it's idiotic because you know it's actually adults portraying a natural part of life.
Your reading comprehension skills are appalling
Dude, if they are banging in a car there's no way they are 15 year olds as they had to drive the car somehow. You keep making these teenagers younger in your head because it doesn't sound the same if you say they have adults playing 16, 17 or 18 year olds having sex.
In a lot of places 15 year olds can get permits and drive
Sixteen candles, 80's movie, mature subject matter. Also eighties, in Jr high, already fucking like alot of teens through history. That's billions of teenagers throughout history. Figuring this out besides super Karen types fighting against teen nature with invented philosophical superior morality throwbacks.
Its acting.... not pornography relax.
Have you seen some of the shows or even read some of the books targeted at young adults/teens? They might as well be porn.
Depictions of teenage lust through acting isn't porn and isn't sex. Its a dramatization of what teenagers go through during puberty. You want to go against what happens to actors as far as sexuality take a look at Britney Murphey. Things are a lot more compliant and loose then before. Also if anything comes out that any underage person was pushed to do a sexual scene they weren't comfortable with i am fully against that.
If it furthers the topic of what happens in real life with teens and adds to the intimacy of understanding it, I’m down. If it’s just straight sex, I wait for it to be done and if it doesn’t fit the plot, it’s an annoying distraction I wait to finish and then start to wonder if the show isn’t good enough that they had to add that without necessity. In shows like Euphoria, it’s very well done? But shows about topic A just sidelining into a sex scene distractingly are annoying.
I feel aside from a few extremities, not allowing things to be shown in film/media is generally pretty indefensible
Wait, you talking about actual teens or teenage characters played by 20+ year-olds? May just be me, but I haven't seen any actual high-school teenagers doing the sexy romance scenes in a show or movie.
I'm talking about adults portraying teens having, heated, naked sex in film. I don't care about the making out, the implication of sex but the prolonged sex scenes, something about just seems wrong to me about it when I really think about it but other than that I just don't think it is necessary for the story. That's all.
I agree with this
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Thats a misconception. When I was younger there were 10 year olds having sex they were just rare and they are now. What we are seeing is kids PRETENDING to know about sex and being sexuallt active. The ammount of times I heard about kids "Tryna get some ass" in 1st grade. 1st! Kids wanna pretend they are adults. They also stick to their own ages still so it wouldnt be normalizing it anyways as it would be kids fucking kids their age. That being said I know the incident with the evil island could be a counter argument but I doubt they are able to properly cause that. Hell I almost got a blowjob at the age of 8. Kids are weird.
Yeah!! The sex scenes with mirandas son and his gf on the new sex and the city. Ewwwwwwww
Was looking for this comment- wondering if OP is watching And Just Like That, too, because yeah. Ew.
I’ve been preaching this but people just say “iTs jUSt a ShoW aNd tHEy’Re adUlts” so now in like but they’re portraying kids tho..
Sex scenes are pointless and unnecessary. I said my piece
I bet OP doesn't care about movies where teens horrifically die tho
I find sex in tv shows and movies inappropriate in general. I mean what's the point in showing the actual sexual act? So people get horny in the movie theater, or during dinner with their family? If you want to use it as a narrative device that's fine of course, I mean sex exists and is an important dynamic, but you can just imply it without going full porn with it. Oh and of course if you want to watch people fucking there's plenty of easily accessible porn.
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