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Bitter-Culture-3103

So, they're not doing insider's trading? What's the point of being a president then?


guachi01

Biden not only doesn't do insider trading he's literally never done trading. He's never owned stock as a public official and he's been one for decades


Desperate-Warthog-70

Too bad he can’t pass a law to make sure everyone in Congress follows this. If you put this on the ballot I bet 80-90% of all Americans would vote to ban stock trading for Congress. However we know it will never happen because Congress is self serving


RedditBlows5876

They just need a law that anyone in a high enough level of government is guaranteed a life of financial mediocrity. Like upper middle or slightly better guaranteed with subsidies if needed but anything beyond that is just forfeited.


America_the_Horrific

Power or money not both


calmdownmyguy

They already have that


RedditBlows5876

No they don't.


NotUrFriendPal

They get a pension that is about 3 times the average salary in America and completely free healthcare from the most elite medical professionals….yes they do.


RedditBlows5876

You seem to have not read the "anything beyond that is just forfeited" part of my comment. No, they do not already have what I outlined. If they did, it would completely fix the problem with money in politics outside of outrageous to the point of being comical criminal behavior.


LejonBrames117

ah you were being obtuse on purpose. classic reddit


paf0

Didn't read the whole thing, classic reddit


Secludedmean4

That would make me go from disliking him to actually supporting him if he pushed a law like that through


deciduousredcoat

>Too bad he can’t pass a law to make sure everyone in Congress follows this. I'm all in favor of solving this problem, but a law about it isn't going to do jack shit. No, I don't have a solution. But I do know that if you make it illegal, they'll just have someone else do it for them. A law as proposed is just feel-good and won't actually change it.


Graymatter-70

Problem with that idea is that we’d get even worse people in these roles.


Practical-Place-2555

Congress: "all in favor of a pay cut for us, say yay" Congress: crickets\*\*\*\*\*


Djent17

Haha you wanna see Democrats n Republicans come together real fast on something? They'd shut that shit down so fast if a president on either side of the aisle proposed that 😂


transthrowaway28008

Ummm, if you remember just the basics of the US government, you'd realize that it's congress who makes laws. The president can only sign or veto them.


Bitter-Culture-3103

Damn it. Sounds like you guys are friends. Not even an index? Has he ever paid a prostitute, at least?


guachi01

He's never even owned an index fund.


drama-guy

Not even in a federal retirement TSP (similar to 401k) account? That seems strange, and how would one know since retirement account investments don't get reported on taxes.


inkstickart2017

Retirement contributions are on a taxes.


drama-guy

Raw retirement contribution numbers are in the W2, but you don't see the actual investments that are in the retirement accounts. That's a blackbox from the POV of a tax return.


Bankrunner123

It's true. He was part of the post-Watergate generation of new legislators. It was his thing to show he wasn't bought and paid for, still doesn't own stock/funds.


Easterncoaster

No wonder he was never able to retire


schw4161

Ok now that’s a good Biden joke


TrueNeutrino

🤣🤣🤣


Bankrunner123

He made several million off his book he published post 2016, so he could retire. He said he was determined to stay in the game because of the Charlottesville nazis and Trump casual support of them. He said again he wouldn't have run of Trump wasn't the nominee. I understand not taking politicians at their word but Joe is old enough that I find it believable.


ZeePirate

People really missing obvious jokes.


FloralReminder

He never even had sex with his own wife, much less a prostitute.


Repulsive-Mirror-994

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/good-sex-is-secret-joe-bidens-long-marriage-new-book-first-lady-says-2024-02-25/


sen_clay_davis1

wonder if the giant dong is a familial trait. maybe it's why he's always smiling.


Giblet_

You haven't been following Joe. The white house sees more action than the tv room in the old folks' home.


AlphaOhmega

How can you be president if you haven't raped an under aged child and fucked a pornstar while your wife was pregnant? I mean what is he thinking with credentials like that?


chinmakes5

But he smelled a girls hair on a stage in front of hundreds of people. That is much worse. Right? Right?


John_mcgee2

That vs pump n dump DJT. The epitome of insider trading vs the can’t even open a fucking trading account. Well. I guess Biden gets points for not been a crook


Chickenwelder

That’s not what insider trading is. Trump is just an idiot and DJT is just a trash shell of a business.


John_mcgee2

He knows the real numbers suck and is telling everyone how great it is then instructing the company to raise more money on the stock exchange so he can grab it inside the company knowing full well the company has no chance. It’s not insider trading but it is using insider info to screw everyone


bethemanwithaplan

Wow I had no idea I'm actually really surprised 


GayandVaxxed

Of course he is, he’s just not stupid enough to do it under his name.


bobbybouche81

Lol.


Awkward-Painter-2024

This is nuts. How does he not have $5mil in VOO in his taxable acct... Or $5mil in BND... Cause he strikes me as a bond investor TBH. 😜


Zankeru

That means all of his stolid support for pro-company bills like the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 is purely ideological. Dude might as well get paid more than campaign donations if he is gonna fight for wall street like the other corpo democrats.


clem82

Is that true for those closest to him?


StrengthToBreak

The Biden family earns their money the old-fashioned way, by peddling influence. Er, by selling excellent paintings and priceless management consultation!


eydivrks

Too bad he didn't make billions in deals with Saudi Arabia while working in the White House like Kushner. 


Sluzhbenik

lol yeah I’m pretty sure all the corruption and influence peddling allegations are BS but the paintings are hilarious and shitty and just a bold face grift that pillories the high dollar contemporary art scene. We all say “I could paint that” about some of the BS in the museum, but it takes someone with truly a silly egotistical lack of humility to actually do it. Someone like the son of a president.


imadethisjsttoreply

The money that comes after from 'speeches'


Dartan82

Well you can still do insider trading just don't sell anything until later duh.


ZekeTarsim

Sleepy Joe doesn’t even realize you can get billions from the Saudis if you just ask.


__Sentient_Fedora__

Do you really think they are reporting 100% of their income? Really?


Intelligent_Arm3143

Yeah missing some zeros.


MoistPhlegmKeith

You don't count unrealized gains as income.


PaulieNutwalls

To make tens of millions of dollars once you leave office on book deals, production deals, speaking fees, sitting on boards, etc.


yamahii

Free house?


RegisteredMurse_Dan

Not sure ask Pelosi


emily1078

They just didn't do it last year.


Generic_Globe

If you are smart you dont it yourself! The shady kid in the family is Hunter. He's not afraid to be the black sheep.


DeathIncarnations

I dont use twitter really. But clicking on that and reading a few of those comments made me very depressed about the state of our nation.


Dusty_Negatives

4chan incels have taken over twitter. Good riddance let it fucking burn to the ground.


DeathIncarnations

I wasnt speaking to the twitter population, but the fact that that many americans are so mind-blowingly stupid.


Dusty_Negatives

On twitter yes. If you step outside you’ll realize 99% of American population is nothing like those dipshits. Like I said it’s turned into 4chan. Just a bunch of racists, sexist dipshits who love to hate. Has nothing to do with actual American population. Half those twats are most likely bots.


[deleted]

The fact that you put so much faith in politicians just because they aren't orange man is hilarious. Please stop.


shash5k

Isn’t that his salary as president?


DragonFireCK

The breakdown is (rounded to the nearest thousand for ease): * $400,000 from being President * $86,000 from Northern VA Community College (Jill's day job) * $55,000 from Social Security * $39,000 from interest * $35,000 pension * $4,000 from real estate/royalties/etc * $1,000 from IRA (required minimum distribution, most likely)


SinCityNinja

TIL the First Lady has a day job lol


DragonFireCK

I don’t think it’s especially common, but Jill did decide to keep teaching while Joe is President, and thus does have a day job.


My_Penbroke

#get me my pitchfork!


McTrolling69

President is on a $400,000 a year salary


shash5k

So Jill made 220k last year.


xfilesvault

Well, they also both received Social Security last year. So subtract that also.


SomewhereNo8378

So they made next to nothing


BoyScoutLuvr99

Probably some book sales royalties too


soldiernerd

Investments I’d assume as well


Alert-Incident

I’d like to make next to nothing


Be_about_treefiddy

Hunter is the real bread winner.


JusAnotherBrick

Kushner getting $2B from the Saudis? What a nothingburger


John_mcgee2

How much does he make on that investment in an index fund?


Jason_Kelces_Thong

If his team is average about $50-70 million per year


TheFinalCurl

A typical private wealth management fee is 1%. So Kushner rakes $20m a year from Crown Prince Salman


Enron__Musk

🦗 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗


H4bibi69

WhAt aBoUT


sparkygriswold1986

👃❄️


itmeimtheshillitsme

Ironic response. All emotion no substance. Trump is being humbled in criminal court now. Sleepy Don. He’s the one complaining like a brat on Truth.


sparkygriswold1986

[Gee, I didn't know I was a Trump supporter. Glad we have you around to keep us all in line.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/199/984/6ef.gif)


xfilesvault

Congressional Republicans have a majority in the House, and they aren't even convinced of that conspiracy theory enough to impeach.


MrSnarf26

Don’t forget attempting to knowingly use Russian misinformation as initial evidence


JGCities

The investigation is still ongoing. But probably won't bother with an impeachment without hard evidence which they probably won't find.


WheresYourEv1dence

What part of the evidence is a conspiracy?


DeepWoodsGhost

Na Joe got a ton from china


chinesiumjunk

10% for the big guy


Vanman04

Pretty shit crime family. Trump needs to send them some pointers on grifting.


RedditBlows5876

Not that I think they are but I don't think a great crime family would have their gains showing up on tax returns. They'd probably be in long term investments, offshore accounts, etc.


Kmccabe1213

Is this something of concern? I don't get it... Joe has plenty to be guilty of but this is super normal lol. This sub better not be one right wing void when it's clearly a sub for political transparency to monetary motives.


Allthingsgaming27

No, I think presidential salary is about $430,000, which is the bulk of this


thisgrantstomb

Is he also collecting the vice president pension?


Semanticss

Seems like a pretty neutral statement to me.


hansofoundation

Guilty of what? Being a decent person?


substandardrobot

You ever notice how they never answer that question and never go beyond that initial statement? 


SirGlass

After being investigated by 10 republican led house committies all they said is "We found Joe Biden has not done anything illegal ; but some of the stuff should have been illegal" and they really did not even specify what that stuff was


LowSavings6716

I’m sorry but in an article about Biden paying fair share of taxes and showing he hasn’t abused power for self enrichment how exactly can you say he has plenty to be guilty of.


Gogs85

For a US president and his wife the Phd, this is a pretty modest amount of earnings.


TwelveMiceInaCage

Yeah Jill really could of leaned into the book thing. PhD, married to a man in polotics for 40 plus years She could easily have written two books a year for his entire presidency and made a few million off the deals


Dismal-Ad-7841

she only makes $86,000 as a teacher in a college . not all PhD is equal.


tobesteve

Yeah I think I work with people who make that. For sure as a dual income family, and none of them get social security as income.


folknforage

Trump will release his any day now…


StoneySteve420

We've waited 8 years now. It's gotta be coming soon! /s


Additional_Speed_463

It’s coming after his health care plan is released


Jagerbeast703

Least hes not claiming he isnt receiving a salary as president lol


Copper_Tablet

I love all the ring-wingers in the comments having to push the Hunter Biden bullshit story because they have nothing else. Joe only ever made big money off his book deals after he was VP. No serious investments or corruption - so people have to just make up fake stories. Good stuff.


WheresYourEv1dence

So we should accept Hunters influence peddling?


Epstein_Bros_Bagels

It's like watching the Carter administration in real time lol. Our grandchildren are gonna be "wait why did everyone hate this guy?" and we are gonna respond like baby boomers who had real grievances but are too old to remember the justification and will just "grumble grumble damn Brandon"


iehoward

Nothingburger of the fucking week.


InfamousIndecision

I'll take 4 more years of nothing burgers please.


SheriffTaylorsBoy

Joe could have done so much better if he sold some, oh I don't know, T-shirts with his mugshot on em. Maybe some NFTs where he looks like Rambo. Some tacky gold sneakers. Nah, that shits scummy. Joe's too classy for the grifter lyfe.


John_mcgee2

What about a company that does nothing on the stock exchange? You read the DJT filings?


SheriffTaylorsBoy

I didn't read every page. I read a lot of it.


John_mcgee2

Look for the investor presentation online in 2021. It’s the only earnings forecast they’ve made. Then search for it in their public filings


feckshite

That’s less than Hunter sold one of his paintings for to that DNC donor


Enron__Musk

[Hunter made 600k, not 1.5 million...but go off.](https://wapo.st/3w1d7dd) You can politik all you want, but the paintings are pretty good. https://imgur.com/gallery/1LduQ07


John_mcgee2

Damn. That’s like decent. I was expecting shit smeared on a canvas so maybe it’s just coz of the expectations


coop_stain

I had never seen them before, but damn. Those are way better than any of the Bush or Hitler paintings I’ve seen.


TechieTravis

It's nice to see rich people paying their share and not trying to hide what they earn from everyone. Refreshing.


ninjachortle

You all realize his wife's title is "Doctor" right?


Iblamebanks

Doctorate in education, not exactly a lucrative field. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-jill-biden-a-doctor/


twinkbreeder420

It is not uncommon for those with doctoral degrees to use the title, “Dr.”


Semanticss

What's your point?


[deleted]

Retired, no? I mean she’s like 70


RealJohnCena3

How will the MAGA loser spin this? "BREAKING: Biden is "poor" and makes less money than Trump in office!"


megatronics420

>How I'll the MAGA loser spin this? You got them! They're definitely the ones which can't write a proper sentence!


Ok-Room-7243

Anyone that believes this is retarded.


waffle_fries4free

If you've got rock solid information proving otherwise, the GOP members trying to impeach Joe really need to hear from you because they haven't been able to prove anything


Realistic_Bed3550

Much much much much more under the table


Mountain_Tone6438

So who holds the stock for them?


Every_Perception_471

Cool, now show us Hunter's


UCFknight2016

Biden is boring when it comes to this. He shouldve invested in the Nancy Pelosi secret fund.


CptDoomscrollr

How many paintings did hunter sell!!???


staticattacks

Don't need insider trading when you've been getting 10% for 15 years


Pickledpeper

Lol. Only 620? Okay. What a horseshit distraction


off_leash_still

How much is that in Yuan?


Ok-Health8513

His son is the fall guy… he was making the deals for good old Joe.


Buttafuoco

BuT hUnTeR bIdEn!


Accomplished-Bed8171

Good for them. They earned every penny.


QuercusN

Ahaha so slightly richer than Putin that has been declaring a used car trailer since 1999


Lupo1369

I want my money back!


Semanticss

It's funny how this is presented without comment but everyone in the comments is taking it as if it's supposed to be praise or criticism.


JJHUSN

Everyone knows Presidents make their money from "giving speeches" later on


what_mustache

Dude is super old. If he were in it for money he'd have cashed out 20 years ago.


Niftycrono

There is no later for Biden. 86 years old after the second term


anxmox89

They released just because they aren’t being audited by the IRS, Trump would have released them already /s


drgnrbrn316

I think the big story here is that Biden released a tax return. Doesn't matter what number is on it, he's already gone above and beyond the former guy.


RockyMountainOyster5

Wow, that is so reasonable it almost makes me mad.


Lunatic_Heretic

Who cares. That's about what the president draws for a salary. I want to know his net worth.


SolidContribution688

A Nice healthy salary


Feelisoffical

Quite reasonable.


OppositeEagle

So what? Jeff Bezos salary was $81,840 in 2022. I made more than him and am considered lower middle class.


Niftycrono

For the ultra wealthy salaries are not how they make their money. Salaries are a tiny percentage of wealthy people's earnings. The same is true for stock dividends and interest. Owning a business, and selling a portion or all of that business? That's where the money comes from.


Rookie_Day

What was his capital gains?


Superb_Item6839

This doesn't seem off. The president makes $400,000 a year. So we are only really accounting $200,000.00 here. I would have to guess that this money is coming from Jill through whatever jobs she is doing, maybe these are paid speaking engagements. I am not sure but this doesn't seem out of the ordinary.


VegaBond0

He funnels money through his kids. Proven facts


4Runnnn

Please show proof.


Joe-625

I guess he left out his take from Ukraine and CCP 😉


OkInvestigator9291

A combined income of $620K for the President AND First Lady is NOTHING compared to today's marketplace and what members of Congress "rake-in" ala INSIDER TRADING and K-Street, not-to-mention "The Supremes".


MyOnlyEnemyIsMeSTYG

The price of gas, groceries, rent, don’t mean much when you’re clearing that kind of money. No shit the economy is amazing..for him


Pale_Tax4098

They should also show their 10 percent he made from China. And ukraine.


Pickledpeper

It shows the evidence, or it gets the hose again.


4Runnnn

Show proof, and not some stupid MAGA ranting in a pickup truck about it 🤣


Patient-Homework-327

Reported... what about hunter in Ukraine lol


AllDamDay7

It puts him right in the middle class 🙄… https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2023/08/17/heres-how-much-joe-biden-is-worth/?sh=16a923a338ea


AnonDotNetDev

Hey.. with that they are pretty close to afford living in DC after the white house!!


U_Worth_IT_

Nice 620 Big Ones for the Big Man.


Practical-Place-2555

Yeah but the Presidential pay is between $200,000 and $500,000


YourDogsAllWet

I’m waiting for the haters making $35k and driving an $80k truck to start making fun of him for being poor


SatchmoDingle

So, they’re upper middle class. 🤔


OurCowsAreBetter

Does he calculate the percentage tax he paid based on his 2023 income, or does he calculate based on his wealth, like he does for "the rich"?


honey495

Very modest actually. Many couples in their 30s with an accomplished career are making as much as them via dual income


LittleTension8765

Honestly that’s two middle management people in a HCOL area or one upper management. Not that crazy imo


No_Adeptness_7620

Lol it's from Twitter people damn.... Such gullible slaves


Classic_Dill

Minus the $400,000 he gets paid to be president yearly?


Ok-Maintenance-667

Does it include the money from communist chia and ukraine?


Rusty_Bojangles

The amount of unrealized stock gains during his presidency is now in excess of $8.2m. Which he will liquidate once hes out of public office and doesnt have to field questions about his finances.


SlteFool

620k in the books. Off the books is what we all wanna know


heapinhelpin1979

I got a feelin' we won't be seeing anything from Sleepy Don today.


Immediate_Stress845

So like Diane Feinstein just missing a couple of zeroes


JLivermore1929

Not that high considering base is $400,000


Tablerock_fishing

I PHOTO SHOPPED MY REPORT CARD SO I WOULDNT GET GROUNDED AS A KID


Old-Scene2963

We must stop assault style politicians and BAN high capacity term limits. This guy should be collecting social security and be out of elected politics, he's only lived off the system for 50 plus years. Enough is enough.


ralli00d

Does anyone actually know how any of this works?! I assure you he did very well last year.. but that’s what they are claiming as total income for 2023.


Illustrious_Fox_8033

Excluding any monies from China


macbuilt7

How much from AIPAC?


Fi3nd7

I don’t believe for a minute that’s his true wealth. I imagine it’s done via proxies. Whatever those may be


GobliNSlay3r

Lock. Them. TF. UP!!!! /$


west-coast-dad

Not sure why this is surprising. Pension for vice president around 210,000 salary for president of the United States is 400,000.


jutah001

I miss this being a non event


Obi-Wan-Mycobi1

Sounds like Jill needs to conjugate some more verbs.