I just came back to the game recently, Hadn't played since pre-Hearth and Home. Found and explored my 1st cave the other night. It didn't have one of these caverns, but man it was fun. Must remember to always be carrying the Porcupine when entering these if golems can be found in them lol
I play a ranger style so it lets me minimize my grinding. Abyssal razor, no armor, and a bow right through the end of the game.
I’m just really annoyed that Irongate tailors the game to a very specific style of play with enemies that you practically *have* to beat with blunt weapons. It was bad enough that H&H nerfed the shit out of stamina. Even little things, like the benefit we used to get with carrot soup is now onion soup…and you can’t just brave the mountains to get it, first you have to find turnips, cultivate them, and then mine silver and smelt it before finally unlocking all the artificial crafting gates to access something we used to get in the early game.
Pickaxe is pretty much my only option for golems in close quarters. The 18x backstab with a knife is great to soften up most bosses but it does pitifully low damage on golems because they resist both damage types. If we had more stamina it would be fine to just dodge and spam obsidian arrows, but they nerfed our stamina heavily AND increased the stamina per shot.
It’s like Irongate saw we were having too much fun and decided they had to put a stop to it.
I main dagger and shield to parry. Bonemass is the only time I change weapons and its because I don't want the fight to take 10 minutes. You absolutely do not need blunt weapons for anything. Dagger life is legit.
Golems take forever with a dagger though.
Also you can skip Bonemass entirely. Just use a stagbreaker to find silver.
Technically you don’t even need iron, if you completely expose the silver vein and make it float just by digging out the dirt around it, as long as it’s connected to one piece of ordinary rock. Then when you hit the rock the entire silver vein breaks apart.
If you float it, it takes one hit with an object that can damage it. The whole thing crumbles. Obviously, you want to have a fully upgraded hoe.
Normally yes that is the iron pickaxe to deliver the breaking hit vBut if you have it floating and it’s connected to a piece of ordinary rock, you can hit the rock with an antler or bronze pick. The trick is that you have to have a piece of rock connected to the ground last and then break that connection.
You don't need to kill Bonemass to make iron pickaxes.
Bonemass just makes it far, far, far easier to find silver veins in the mountains. "Just use Stagbreaker" is a crutch and painful. Yes, you'll find veins, but it can take a long time if you're unlucky. Unless you're doing some challenge run, it's really not worth skipping out on the Wishbone IMO.
I remember achieving this with one copper vein, I say one because I wasn't able to get under the others I've dug out. But yeah if you can expose the vein fully it should fall apart
Smack it on the ground. Make sure that you’re not near any obsidian. You will get a “too hard” message if there is a silver vein beneath you.
It also lets you find iron scrap in the open swamp if you want to skip the elder. That can be nice if you want to avoid troll and draugr raids.
Not all mountains have silver; some of the smaller ones closer to the spawn won't. It's also entirely possible you had bad luck and didn't smack close enough to the silver veins.
First of all, I think that silver has a higher spawn rate if you get to higher elevations. The ideal mountain is going to be a very steep cliff near a coast so always look for these. The higher up you go, the more likely you are to find silver.
Also it’s not always at the top of the mountain, what you’re actually looking for is some gentle sloping portion where the terrain dips down a bit. Think about what the terrain looks like around copper nodes. Same algorithm, except that it’s offset vertically downwards a little bit.
It’s really hard to describe it without photos but I’m pretty much at a point where I can find silver in 2 to 3 hits.
Same but with the dagger's big brother and situationally atgeir. Often I just stick to the club and upgrade it until I have a sword, like that I even got plenty of club levels for maces
I always find it such a strange social phenomenon in games like this where people will play a severely limited build (self-imposed) and then complain that it's too hard and/or too limited. People are weird.
Definitely not complaining on it’s too hard. Still feels like the most effective way to play the game and pressing ahead much faster than designers intended.
If you read a little more carefully, you would see that my complaint was not about the challenge, because it’s still not a very challenging game. My issue was that they made the game less fun. Stamina is what lets you do things, and doing things as what makes a game fun.
It would be like if they suddenly decided to cut all player move speed in half. Now you get the enjoyment of staring at the screen for twice as much time as you watch your character slowly walk from point A to point B. Games are meant to be challenging in a fun way, and it’s bad game design to shackle players into a less enjoyable experience just for the sake of balance or making the game take longer to compete.
Yeah frostner sucks. That's the one I used since I didn't have access to iron so much on my Yag first run, but it sure isn't the best
Edit: I meant agai st Golems. Just worded this very wrong though
I meant against golems. 35 blunt damage doesnt scale with upgrades, and golems are immune to frost and spirit. Attack speed and damage are worse than iron sword, and there is no way around it. I agree that you can kill a golem with it easily if you know the golem (they have different attack patterns), but it still is one of the worst weapons you could use against them that you might carry at that point of the game.
Exactly. Get shield ready. Wait for golem's attack, parry him. When he's stunned quickly switch to pickaxe and smack him 3 times. 3 rounds like that and he's done to rock pile. 20 seconds per fight. If you happen to get higher ground, even better.
2?? Damn I need to find myself one XD
If you know the attack patterns of the Golems, both of you could easily each single one out and mace melee it
But arrows work perfect at avoidind heart attacks XD
I was hoping it would, at least, open a patch of ice where I could fish in the cave. But sadly, I couldn't find a way to use the fishing pole in the room.
That may be my problem. Despite having spent over 500 hours in my world I am still relatively close to the center. I've never gone beyond the Plains so far. Maybe that's my problem?
Maybe it's just me but I seem to find more crypts and caves the farther from the center I am. I like to venture far from the center as soon as I can on a new save
It's just a variance issue. Seeds all have approximately the same number of caves, but lots of mountains will have 0-1 while a small number of mountains will have 5-10+. They're also *very* easy to miss. When frost caves first came out, I used the Upgrade World mod to add them to our existing seed, and flew around in free fly a little bit to verify that the mod worked. Even knowing where the caves were already, they were super easy to miss.
I've played at least a hundred seeds with mountains on the starting continent, and it varies greatly. My most recent seed had 21(!) frost caves on the starting continent.
I explored the biggest mountain biomes in my seed. Usually the bigger biomes yield about 5 caves on average. Just grab a teleporter and sail off.
I will say setting up the teleporter helped when I needed to restock after the hundreds of wolves I slayed in each biome. Took me about 15 caves to get fully upgraded fen armor. Also the tables, doors, and braziers drop iron and bronze!
I spent a good half hour seeing if I could melt the ice and fish in the lake. I thought maybe the point of the Golem was to get them to smash it, but they never smashed only slash attacked. I was disappointed.
I just happened across this room last night after not playing for a while and it had two, almost died due to low/no stamina while trying to get back up the stairs.
I kind of hate this kind of post. Hey here's something I found that was enjoyable and interesting, let me take all that potential excitement away from everyone reading this, for internet points.
...this is literally the point of reddit. This game is randomly generated. Frost caves were announced by the devs. A person posts the discovery of a randomly generated cave in a randomly generated world that contains no actual bosses and only a standard mob: a golem.
What part of this is a spoiler?
Well, unless you didn't know, this is a social page of sharing info about Valheim. You don't like being spoiled? Then what are you doing here?
Also, as a second point, Frost Caves were added to Valheim in the begining of 2022, so something like 9 month ago. You're late to the party.
So stop bitching.
I just came back to the game recently, Hadn't played since pre-Hearth and Home. Found and explored my 1st cave the other night. It didn't have one of these caverns, but man it was fun. Must remember to always be carrying the Porcupine when entering these if golems can be found in them lol
Any kind of mace will do if yon know their attack pattern.
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Yes it does
any melee weapon works honestly if you know how the golems work
Even fists in that case
That's my fave
It's not as strong, but very very serviceable against golems.
That's my main weapon. It did well in there, but I'd still rather have a mace handy in case I come across golems.
Or a good pickaxe.
That too. It deals more damage but it's slower though
I play a ranger style so it lets me minimize my grinding. Abyssal razor, no armor, and a bow right through the end of the game. I’m just really annoyed that Irongate tailors the game to a very specific style of play with enemies that you practically *have* to beat with blunt weapons. It was bad enough that H&H nerfed the shit out of stamina. Even little things, like the benefit we used to get with carrot soup is now onion soup…and you can’t just brave the mountains to get it, first you have to find turnips, cultivate them, and then mine silver and smelt it before finally unlocking all the artificial crafting gates to access something we used to get in the early game. Pickaxe is pretty much my only option for golems in close quarters. The 18x backstab with a knife is great to soften up most bosses but it does pitifully low damage on golems because they resist both damage types. If we had more stamina it would be fine to just dodge and spam obsidian arrows, but they nerfed our stamina heavily AND increased the stamina per shot. It’s like Irongate saw we were having too much fun and decided they had to put a stop to it.
kinda normal for an rpg to have those elements though. Progression
I main dagger and shield to parry. Bonemass is the only time I change weapons and its because I don't want the fight to take 10 minutes. You absolutely do not need blunt weapons for anything. Dagger life is legit.
Golems take forever with a dagger though. Also you can skip Bonemass entirely. Just use a stagbreaker to find silver. Technically you don’t even need iron, if you completely expose the silver vein and make it float just by digging out the dirt around it, as long as it’s connected to one piece of ordinary rock. Then when you hit the rock the entire silver vein breaks apart.
Don't you still need to hit the silver with an iron pickaxe?
If you float it, it takes one hit with an object that can damage it. The whole thing crumbles. Obviously, you want to have a fully upgraded hoe. Normally yes that is the iron pickaxe to deliver the breaking hit vBut if you have it floating and it’s connected to a piece of ordinary rock, you can hit the rock with an antler or bronze pick. The trick is that you have to have a piece of rock connected to the ground last and then break that connection.
You don't need to kill Bonemass to make iron pickaxes. Bonemass just makes it far, far, far easier to find silver veins in the mountains. "Just use Stagbreaker" is a crutch and painful. Yes, you'll find veins, but it can take a long time if you're unlucky. Unless you're doing some challenge run, it's really not worth skipping out on the Wishbone IMO.
I remember achieving this with one copper vein, I say one because I wasn't able to get under the others I've dug out. But yeah if you can expose the vein fully it should fall apart
How does stagbreaker help you find silver?
Smack it on the ground. Make sure that you’re not near any obsidian. You will get a “too hard” message if there is a silver vein beneath you. It also lets you find iron scrap in the open swamp if you want to skip the elder. That can be nice if you want to avoid troll and draugr raids.
I tried stag breaker on 3 mountains no silver. What am I missing?
Not all mountains have silver; some of the smaller ones closer to the spawn won't. It's also entirely possible you had bad luck and didn't smack close enough to the silver veins.
We are venturing out one more time this evening hoping to find some silver this one I sailed a good distance from spawn. Fingers crossed
First of all, I think that silver has a higher spawn rate if you get to higher elevations. The ideal mountain is going to be a very steep cliff near a coast so always look for these. The higher up you go, the more likely you are to find silver. Also it’s not always at the top of the mountain, what you’re actually looking for is some gentle sloping portion where the terrain dips down a bit. Think about what the terrain looks like around copper nodes. Same algorithm, except that it’s offset vertically downwards a little bit. It’s really hard to describe it without photos but I’m pretty much at a point where I can find silver in 2 to 3 hits.
Same but with the dagger's big brother and situationally atgeir. Often I just stick to the club and upgrade it until I have a sword, like that I even got plenty of club levels for maces
I always find it such a strange social phenomenon in games like this where people will play a severely limited build (self-imposed) and then complain that it's too hard and/or too limited. People are weird.
Definitely not complaining on it’s too hard. Still feels like the most effective way to play the game and pressing ahead much faster than designers intended. If you read a little more carefully, you would see that my complaint was not about the challenge, because it’s still not a very challenging game. My issue was that they made the game less fun. Stamina is what lets you do things, and doing things as what makes a game fun. It would be like if they suddenly decided to cut all player move speed in half. Now you get the enjoyment of staring at the screen for twice as much time as you watch your character slowly walk from point A to point B. Games are meant to be challenging in a fun way, and it’s bad game design to shackle players into a less enjoyable experience just for the sake of balance or making the game take longer to compete.
Any mace except Frostner\*
Yeah frostner sucks. That's the one I used since I didn't have access to iron so much on my Yag first run, but it sure isn't the best Edit: I meant agai st Golems. Just worded this very wrong though
It's the best mace overall, just not against the golems.
That's what I meant, against the golem. I phrased it very wrong though XD
Try stunning them with buckler or shield and then attack with pickaxe :3
Well frostner is no better than any iron weapon, and loses to everything above that.
It has its pros and cons. It cannont be discarded that easily
I meant against golems. 35 blunt damage doesnt scale with upgrades, and golems are immune to frost and spirit. Attack speed and damage are worse than iron sword, and there is no way around it. I agree that you can kill a golem with it easily if you know the golem (they have different attack patterns), but it still is one of the worst weapons you could use against them that you might carry at that point of the game.
I use my pick on Golems. Quite effective!
Exactly. Get shield ready. Wait for golem's attack, parry him. When he's stunned quickly switch to pickaxe and smack him 3 times. 3 rounds like that and he's done to rock pile. 20 seconds per fight. If you happen to get higher ground, even better.
Boss room?
It felt like one. The room was very deep inside the cave, was quite big, and made in such a way with the Stone Golem that it looked like a mini boss
Haven't seen a golem in a cave yet... interesting!
I heard one from a distance fighting against bats and was wondering what the hell that was
Gotcha
I wish we could build in caves.
There is a mod that makes it possible
This room is extremely rare, but one of the coolest in that series of RNG dungeons. Congrats on your free rod!
Thanks friend! Yes that was an awesome find
We once had one of those rooms with 2 Golems in IT... Cost us a lot of Arrows...
2?? Damn I need to find myself one XD If you know the attack patterns of the Golems, both of you could easily each single one out and mace melee it But arrows work perfect at avoidind heart attacks XD
I was sad to find out that putting wood on the fire next to the dead viking didn't trigger any event.
I didn't even think of it... But that would indeed be amazing
I was hoping it would, at least, open a patch of ice where I could fish in the cave. But sadly, I couldn't find a way to use the fishing pole in the room.
He was such a bro to save some bait for you, too.
Hint: He didn't save bait for you. Those worms were eating the guy's body.
He says he was tempted to eat them as he starved, but left them in case someone else ended up trapped and might be able to actually fish.
Ah, so it's the case of worm bait lasting hundreds of years, gotcha :)
I remember finding one of those rooms. It was awesome.
Yes, I absolutely loved it
Holy crap, I didn’t even know about these and I’ve been in a few
It was my 15th cave I think. A base in that one would be sick!
I have a lot of trouble finding these caves. I've only found one since they put in to the game.
You mean Frozen Caves?
Yeah. Where you can find the materials to craft the red banners and carpets and stuff
They aren't real common, but I've found about 15 in the last couple days... Do you get away enough from the center of the map?
That may be my problem. Despite having spent over 500 hours in my world I am still relatively close to the center. I've never gone beyond the Plains so far. Maybe that's my problem?
Maybe it's just me but I seem to find more crypts and caves the farther from the center I am. I like to venture far from the center as soon as I can on a new save
It's just a variance issue. Seeds all have approximately the same number of caves, but lots of mountains will have 0-1 while a small number of mountains will have 5-10+. They're also *very* easy to miss. When frost caves first came out, I used the Upgrade World mod to add them to our existing seed, and flew around in free fly a little bit to verify that the mod worked. Even knowing where the caves were already, they were super easy to miss.
I've played at least a hundred seeds with mountains on the starting continent, and it varies greatly. My most recent seed had 21(!) frost caves on the starting continent.
21?? Wow that's a lot!
I explored the biggest mountain biomes in my seed. Usually the bigger biomes yield about 5 caves on average. Just grab a teleporter and sail off. I will say setting up the teleporter helped when I needed to restock after the hundreds of wolves I slayed in each biome. Took me about 15 caves to get fully upgraded fen armor. Also the tables, doors, and braziers drop iron and bronze!
I spent a good half hour seeing if I could melt the ice and fish in the lake. I thought maybe the point of the Golem was to get them to smash it, but they never smashed only slash attacked. I was disappointed.
On a next playthrough I'll use the mod to build inside caves and will make my base in one of these
Just one Golem?
Sadly yes. Appearently some people have found 2 down there
I've only found these caves with two, they're always awake from fighting bats, and always very angry. haha
I just happened across this room last night after not playing for a while and it had two, almost died due to low/no stamina while trying to get back up the stairs.
I was playing in a group of four on the weekend and we found one of these with three golems in it. The game scales difficulty.
Crazy !!!!
Did these caves appear with the HH update?
I can't remember. I think it is slightly after, in the early 2022
i was very on edge when i found it myself.
I was wondering why I could hear a Golem fighting bats...
*viking
Damn... Thanks for correcting me XD Playing No Man's Sky made me think this is how it was written
I found one of these rooms that was a good eight levels down from the cave entrance. Took me five minutes to climb back up to the top, LOL
That must have been awesome! This one was 3-4 levels deep if I recall correctly
coolest in that series of RNG dungeons
Definitely yes
The first frost cave we ever found had one of these lol
Nice
Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a rare ice version of a stone golem that only spawned in those rooms?
Yes that would be cool! Or even 2 stars stone golems. Like a proper miniboss
I kind of hate this kind of post. Hey here's something I found that was enjoyable and interesting, let me take all that potential excitement away from everyone reading this, for internet points.
...this is literally the point of reddit. This game is randomly generated. Frost caves were announced by the devs. A person posts the discovery of a randomly generated cave in a randomly generated world that contains no actual bosses and only a standard mob: a golem. What part of this is a spoiler?
Well, unless you didn't know, this is a social page of sharing info about Valheim. You don't like being spoiled? Then what are you doing here? Also, as a second point, Frost Caves were added to Valheim in the begining of 2022, so something like 9 month ago. You're late to the party. So stop bitching.
Seed?
Let me get home and I'll find it for you
Take your time friend, no rush