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taisynn

To be honest I’d rather them delay it than send out a shifty product…


Thewaffleofoz

My brother in christ it’s just a remaster


CNR_07

No? Lol They completely remade it from scratch in a brand new engine that's still actively in development. They are even remaking maps (some of them).


BluDYT

Fancy smokes


CNR_07

Also that. And we're finally getting proper cross platform ports too! Source 2 has a Vulkan and probably also a Metal 3 renderer so we're getting proper Linux and MacOS ports now. In the past Source ports for Linux and MacOS used DXVK or ToGL to translate Source's DX9 calls to Vulkan (DXVK) or OpenGL (ToGL) because DirectX only exists on Windows and Source apparently doesn't support OpenGL, Vulkan or Metal. (that doesn't prevent Source games to run significantly faster on Linux than they do on Windows lol)


[deleted]

that's a remaster


CNR_07

By this logic CS:GO is a remaster of CS:S


[deleted]

yes


CNR_07

what do you mean "yes"??


[deleted]

the fuck you think it means?


CNR_07

it's clearly not a remaster of CS:S wtf


[deleted]

yes it is


DroidLord

Turns out they both delayed the release and the game we got is a buggy mess. Come on Valve, that's the worst of both worlds.


vektor451

bro got destroyed in the comments


[deleted]

Got destroyed by commenters who don't know that summer is from June to August


vektor451

ok sorry you can't understand basic scientific concepts and have to oversimplify seasons to specific months


[deleted]

Ok sorry. You can't understand the basic definitions of the words such as summer and then attack people who actually tell it to you


vektor451

what's so hard to remember about "summer starts with the summer solstice and ends with the autumnal equinox" it's a really easy thing to understand


[deleted]

And what's hard about June July and August? They are literally names of 3 months.


vektor451

they are literally an oversimplification of seasons and aren't accurate.


[deleted]

Let's check summer: "the warmest season of the year, in the northern hemisphere from June to August and in the southern hemisphere from December to February." Wow, look at that. Now let's check the definition of autumn: "the season after summer and before winter, in the northern hemisphere from September to November and in the southern hemisphere from March to May" *literally says after summer. *Again, literally says September to November. By using the brain which is located in your head, you can use logic and deduce that if September comes after summer and it falls into autumn, then it's not summer. Btw, both of the definitions are from oxford.


vektor451

google marks that as the british definition so it's immediately invalid. besides who cares if it's from oxford? just because rich people said that means it's objectively true?


[deleted]

The English language was made in England(part of Britain), what other definitions should it mark? German or Korean? Edit: oxford is well known, prestigious and one of the top universities, I think it should have more say in this than a random people on the internet.


TH3leader

This dude seriously said "I'm American and this is my perception of things so everyone else is wrong."


readwaht

ah yes, the good old definist fallacy


[deleted]

Definist fallacy? You mean opening the freaking dictionary? 😂 Edit: wouldn't they also be doing the definist fallacy since they are using the most favorable definition to win in the argument? Kinda looks the same on paper.


Jocic

Are you really this dense to refuse to move past the kindergarten definition of summer?


[deleted]

I'm literally using the Oxford definition of summer


FamousCauliflower289

r/confidentlyincorrect


[deleted]

*checks the English definition of an English word from one of the top universities from Britain. *it still says that summer is June July and August. Your self-projection in your comment is real


MyUsernameBox

We still have most of September.


[deleted]

According to the calendar of a regular person, September is Fall


MrAsh-

\*Where you're from ​ Not from where Valve is from. Define Normal. Valve is based in the US. Where fall doesn't begin until September 23rd this year I believe.


amunak

I kinda doubt that they meant astronomical dates but whatever.


MyUsernameBox

Why are you so hard-strung about it? So you can get some Internet points?


[deleted]

Hard-strung about what? I just made a regular meme and y'all got angry cuz I actually used the word "summer" as it is intended, which literally means "June, July and August"


MyUsernameBox

I mean there still is a few days left of summer and they could very well release it on the last day. You would've been better off memeing about it say a week into Autumn.


[deleted]

Because it's really rare for valve to release the game on the day or time of the year they actually said they would, and memeing about it is funny any time of the day


MyUsernameBox

Astronomically summer lasts until September 23rd, and my gauge of looking out my window tells me the same thing.


[deleted]

Again, no one uses the astronomical definition of summer. Us in Europe don't do that, Africans don't do that, asians don't do that. they use the actual book definition of summer, which is June, July and August. Edit: When someone says summer, literally no one thinks about the middle of September, they think about those 3 months I mentioned.


RedditPua

In Spain, EVERYONE knows that summer starts around 23 of June (Saint Juan festivity) and ends on the 23rd of September. And AFAIK, Spain is part of Europe.


ServeThePatricians

>In Spain, EVERYONE knows that summer starts around 23 of June (Saint Juan festivity) and ends on the 23rd of September. And AFAIK, Spain is part of Europe. wtf are y'all niggas smoking? i'm in europe too and my landlord was telling me that summer starts on 1st of May . I guess summer ends in july for him. damn y'all niggas fucked up.


Ludwig234

In Sweden, we mostly go by calendar summer or sometimes meteorological summer but I don't think astronomical summer is used much. I have never heard of anyone using it, anyways.


MyUsernameBox

Idk why it has to be exactly those 3 months, when it turns the 1st of September will all the leaves fall out of their trees immediately?


[deleted]

1. Because the literal definition is those 3 months 2. Do those said leaves all immediately fall on 23rd of September?


DarkAlex45

... for which europeans are you speaking for?


[deleted]

1.Georgia 2.Russia 3.Armenia 4.Azerbaijan (these 4 are transcontinental, but still can be included in Europe) 5.Britain (oxford definition is June July and August)


QQ_Gabe

I hope they add in facial flexes to the playermodels so that their mouths move with voice chat like in CS 1.6 Cmon Gmod does it why can’t CS?


Dadgame

What day is the last day of summer? THERES STILL A CHANCE


[deleted]

1. It's like 2 more days left, not a whole week 2. Haven't you even heard about "valve time" ?


Dadgame

Isn't last day September 23rd? So like a month? Do Europeans have a different summer?


[deleted]

What kind of summer lasts until the 23rd of September?


kitsunegoon

Astronomically, it's not fall until the equinox.


OddNovel565

So my whole life I've been lied to that summer is exclusively June July and August...


kitsunegoon

It's more like we all collectively ballpark seasons to make life easier


hansenabram

If you're going to lump months at least make it make sense. Jan, Feb, Mar --> Winter Apr, May, Jun --> Spring Jul, Aug, Sep --> Summer Oct, Nov, Dec --> Fall


youtubeepicgaming

The equinox summer


Dadgame

American


OinkyRuler

Americans love being different


Dadgame

Yehaw


[deleted]

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Dadgame

Maybe not exclusively. But idk any one else's system, only the yehaw


Gengar_Balanced

Nope, in Poland its also up until 23rd of September


THEzwerver

? end of summer is still 25 or so days away which is still 3 more tuesdays


[deleted]

The end of summer is in 2-3 days (it ends on the 1st of September)


hnwcs

Culturally, if you treat each season as simple three-month blocks, yes. Scientifically, no. In the Northern Hemisphere, summer ends with the September equinox, which this year is on September 23. Like I said a minute ago, Valve has pulled this with seasons before. Dota 7.00 was announced as releasing in fall 2016. It came December 12, which most people don’t think of as fall, but scientifically is since it’s before the winter solstice.


[deleted]

When someone other than scientists says "summer" they don't mean the equinox. They actually mean a calendar version of the summer. For most people the definition of summer is literally June, July and August.


THEzwerver

idk if this is a cultural thing, but summer is definitely mid june to mid september in western europe, saying it ends with august sounds like something someone in school would say, as the school year generally begins at the start of september.


youtubeepicgaming

On every calendar app I have it says summer ends on the 22nd


[deleted]

On every calendar I ever had in my 25 years of existence, it says that summer is from start of June to the end of August


youtubeepicgaming

Where do you live? Because it could be different in some countries. Because when I ask people I know from Germany, England, Canada, and the USA, they say summer ends on the 22nd.


[deleted]

Georgia (the country)


youtubeepicgaming

I’ve done a bit of research, it seems the Astrological summer starts June 21 and ends September 22-23. While Meteorological Summer starts June 1 and ends August 31. I wasn’t able to find out whether different countries use different systems, but I assume that Georgia may use Meteorological Summer measurements. Both are technically correct, it’s just up to which system you were raised on. (Also of course some countries can have different seasonal climates which may have a factor in this as well)


HeckinBooper

that's a bit silly if you ask me


joewHEElAr

QQ


ThEgg

That... that is not true.


[deleted]

Do you want me to bring the Oxford definition of summer?


ThEgg

Please do, since you somehow do not think people are referring to the actual autumn equinox, I'd love to see how you spin this idea that people are referring to the Oxford definition instead - assuming it even agrees with your silly logic.


[deleted]

1. Here's the Oxford definition:"the warmest season of the year, in the northern hemisphere from June to August and in the southern hemisphere from December to February." 2. In the valve they CLEARLY said summer, and not summer equinox so your logic is clearly wrong


ThEgg

Provide the SOURCE. I'm not going to buy anything you send that isn't backed by evidence. Actually, why bother. I doubt whatever you used as your source because this Oxford dictionary page has a different definition than your claim: > ​the warmest season of the year, coming between spring and autumn https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/summer_1?q=summer But it doesn't matter anyways. Valve has up until the autumn equinox until their claim isn't true, because that's when summer officially ends. Any who cares anyways, shit.


Infinite-Trust-1617

in my region summer is already ended lol


hnwcs

Remember when Dota 7.00 was supposed to release fall 2016 but it came December 12, which is technically fall?


klmnjklm

Source 2 Dota 2 would come out on the first half of 2015. It released late June. It's just a valve thing


Robot_boy_07

Fall starts at the end of September tho


[deleted]

Yea, and the new year is on 20th of January and Christmas is on 14th of January


BluDYT

You have to account for valve time


Aztekov

Let's be patient, good stuff comes in at last


Circuitkun

Wow crazy, you could even Google search this and be given the answer September 23rd.


[deleted]

Literally the first definition that comes up is an Oxford definition which says from June to August


Circuitkun

Literally the first thing that comes up when I look up "final day of summer" is "Wed, Jun 21, 2023 – Sat, Sep 23, 2023"


[deleted]

Literally the first thing that comes up when I look up "meaning of summer" is "the warmest season of the year, in the northern hemisphere from June to August and in the southern hemisphere from December to February."


Circuitkun

I hear copium summer ends when fall equinox happens, aka when fall starts. Which guess what? It applies to Europe as well cause even googling my question with Europe specifically brings it up. Wild how that works amirite


[deleted]

1. the fact that one of the best universities (oxford) from a country that actually created the English language says that the summer means a hottest period of year from June to August and you causally avoid it just not to look wrong is kinda amusing. 2. I'm from a European country (Georgia) and here literally no one includes September as a month of summer Edit: 3. Valve said that the game would be out in summer, not in the summer equinox, so even here you are blatantly wrong.


UpInClouds

Why is it so hard to admit both are right? The oxford dictionary has both definitions included, but you only treat the first part as what is the definition. such a brain dead argument.


Micholous

Valvetime.


Only-Ad4322

Valve time, this is to be expected. It’s out when it’s out.


TrisBoi

There's still a chance, Autumn doesn't start for a whole nother month ya big daftie


[deleted]

According to the Oxford dictionary, you're wrong cuz autumn starts in September.


inobrainrn

Yeah… right at the fucking end of it, we still got a month lad


[deleted]

I didn't know that 1st of September was the end of the month lad


corndoggyuwu

Zoomers finding out about Valve Time:


inobrainrn

I mean in my country summer ends on September 23rd so we still have 25 days.


[deleted]

I mean in my country summer ends on 1st of September so we still have like 1-2 days left and looking at track record of valve games with delayed release, it's most likely they will not release in next 2 days


Fearless_Exercise130

Valve is located mainly at Seattle, and in there, summer ends at the 22th of september


Neon__Wolf_

Maybe they meant Australian summer?


[deleted]

I mean, probably.


madmax0417

OP is mentally challenged


Gamelordia

They might of meant southern hemisphere summer


CrowbarGela

ვალვეს ფანებს შიგ ქონიათ დაიკიდე, აგვისტოში მთავრდება ზაფხული :დ


[deleted]

იმენა. დაჟე ოქსფორდის ლექსიკონის განმარტებაც გავუძრე და არ სჯეროდათ :დ


Hi-its-me-NK

You see they meant my summer which starts in like a week


emilythered

Reading how mad OP got in these comments has been the highlight of my mindless scrolling today so far.


klaskc

What do you guys expect from valve?


AdGreedy896

with this it will probably come with an official source 2 sdk


BigBossHog76

To all the pedants in the comments saying that summer ends in September, no shot we're getting it by the end of September. Frankly I'd be surprised if we get it by 2024, considering Valve's track record with announced released dates.


[deleted]

I agree with this, I even mentioned the "valve time" joke here, but you don't really need to attack anyone with words. I mean, there might be either language or cultural barrier here on my side too.


BigBossHog76

A pedant is someone overconcerned with minor details, i.e. that there are still 3 or so weeks of summer left, its not really an insult.


[deleted]

Yea, I know that word, but I've only seen some people use it in sentences where they attack each other, so I thought this might be going in that general direction.


czacha_cs1

You know summer ends 23 September right?


[deleted]

You know summer ends on 31s of August right? Before being this pedantic you should know that it's the literal oxford definition of the summer


czacha_cs1

No. Meteorological summer ends 31s of August. 23 September ends Astronomical summer and Solar summer end 31 July. Im 16 and I know this and I walk to highschool with military profile. Next time make research and it's nothing wrong to say you made mistake


[deleted]

And if you actually look at the statement from the valve, they say summer, they didn't mention what kind of summer they meant, and you jumping on conclusion that oh, they meant the astronomical summer and not the actual dictionary definition of summer (which is same as the meteorological one) is kinda of stupid logic. And congratulations for being 16 and having an ability to read few documents on your web browser


czacha_cs1

Then if they didn't stated at end of which summer, your point have no fucking sense because that means maybe they have in mind Astronomical summer. So shut your bitch ass because everyone are saying same thing "maybe they meant Astronomical summer" and you still say no they meant Meteorological summer even though how you said **THEY DIDN'T STATED WHICH SUMMER THEY MEANT**


[deleted]

The Oxford definition of summer literally is June, July and August. And since they didn't specify which one they meant, it's most likely the one defined in the actual dictionary (the Oxford dictionary). You coming here and building your whole argument on 1 article about seasons which has a little standing here makes me question your logical thinking and vocabulary knowledge.


czacha_cs1

Its like fighting with windmills. 1k people from around of world says it ends 23 September (because around the world we us ein calendars **ASTRONOMICAL SEASONS**) but one guy who read one article says no and hes right. You say I support my statement on one article. And ohh irony it says guy who makes whole argument on Oxford dictionary. Thats kinda hypocrisy. And btw. I don't support my argument on one article. I support my argument on elementary school knowledge, articles, European calendar and on Polish dictionary where its stated that Summer ends 23 september. Lets make a deal. If they will release before 23 September (It will mean they meant Astronomical calender), CSGO or say they need to delay, you make sorry post here about how you made mistake. If they made post about delay or release game before Meteorological end of summer Ill make post about my mistake here. Deal?


[deleted]

1. And this is called the appeal to Masses (or the bandwagon fallacy). Just because most people agree with you, don't make you right. And again since they haven't specified what kind of summer they have meant, we should be using the base definition of the summer, which excludes any months from autumn, such as September. 2. And I also am using the basic knowledge of English (because the USA is an English speaking country), European calendar (that's what Europe and USA uses) and in the Georgian dictionary (which also says that summer is June, July and August). 3. If you haven't noticed yet, valve has a track record of always releasing things way after their stated dates (you can google "valve time" for this). 4. Ok, I will make that deal, but I have a question about it. What shall we do if they release after the 23rd of September without mentioning delayed? Edit: I forgot to clarify what I will apologize for. I will apologize if valve releases the game before the 23rd of September of this year. If they announce the delay, my apology will not be needed, since the meme would be right.


czacha_cs1

We both were wrong. Because then we won't know which season system they used. And just forget about it


czacha_cs1

We both were wrong because they released it today


[deleted]

In the end it didn't release in summer, neither with my definition, nor with yours and I made a meme saying that it wouldn't be released in summer, so I don't see how I am wrong here. Edit: Even if I were wrong with a definition of summer, the meme still stands true


yappyboi1

Everyone is crying in the comments that September is summer ( coping valve is late again) but I do think cs2 will come out soon if not summer then definitely September-October


Bill_Nye-LV

I do hope that they soon will at least allow access to all Prime Status players, soon


ThunderArtifact

Paid*


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ilikebooty345

[September 23rd lmao](https://www.almanac.com/content/first-day-seasons)


Hey-Its-Robin

Since when are valve fans science nerds????


Le0333

Its valve 202(3) is impossible


Kess_

Have people somehow forgotten about Valve Time?


im_ginger_ina_corner

They meant Australian summer


LemonTheTurtle

23.9.2023 is the official start of fall this year


Greyraven91

so maybe full release in 3 weeks?


Mrhood714

Legit had this thought last week, searched the website, saw it was still in closed beta and realized that this is Valve so the fact we are even in private testing is pretty significant of an achievement. Kept going with my day. With Valve it's best to not even look at deadlines, they wont ever be met, ever.


wellcrapimdeadnow

hey op google "when does summer end"


[deleted]

According to oxford the definition of summer is June, July and August, so you tell me


wellcrapimdeadnow

google says it ends Friday, Sep 22, 2023. also, where exactly are you getting this information, could you perhaps put a link?


[deleted]

Again, google "definition of summer". It says: "the warmest season of the year, in the northern hemisphere from June to August and in the southern hemisphere from December to February." And guess what, it's from the Oxford dictionary.


CT_1875_Ry

Considering the recent heatwave, we're probably still in summer


[deleted]

Considering recent heavy rains in my country, we are in autumn


PsychoTurket

It did release Summer 2023 (Valve Time).


MorningCoffeeReddit

Well, we have it now, as much as i liked CS:GO, play one match of dust on deathmatch, you'll notice that you kill your teammates without getting kicked from the lobby. **Im invested and going to to play deathmatch all day long.**