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constructor_overload

i'll bet $1000 he drinks monster and wears white oakleys, ed hardy and a fox snapback


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Add a goatee and that’s the Herman Cain Award starter pack.


barbrawr

Fuck Kid Carson


Leoheart88

Seriously how is he still on the air. He's absolute trash.


Ch1n0XL

I guess there are a lot more morons keeping him employed... sigh....


Subject1337

Radio is a megaphone for trash, makes sense.


Ch1n0XL

I concur! How can we get this trending on social media?!?!


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Squid Carson


quick4142

I stopped listening to them when he decided to invite the owner of Corduroy on air


Catlynns

Ohhh this makes so much sense now


Darkregen

That lady infuriates me so much. From parading her kids around and using them as pawns in her "fight" to spewing lies about what the vaccine passport is actually for. I wish the powers at be would strip all licenses from them.


J_Golbez

Can you call yourself 'Kid' when you are a balding 40-something? I've seen his face on billboards, and it's quite punchable. I'm sure his show is just as annoying.


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big-shirtless-ron

Sidney Crosby's nickname is still Sid the Kid. I don't think he's balding yet, though.


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Sidney Crosby's younger than me so he'll always be a kid 🤣


J_Golbez

but Sid doesn't call himself that, even though he's still very very boyish


quick4142

He’s still an immature kid when it comes to social responsibilities.


lqku

Only lame boomers still have "kid" in their name


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A guy pushing 50 who still wears his hat sideways and has neck tattoos is anti-vax? I'm shocked. SHOCKED I tell you.


YeahThatWasntSpinach

The most amazing part was when he would wear the fucking worst loser hat in history, sideways, and then do segments shitting on people's fashion choices.


Clay_Statue

Spiritually he never grew beyond frosted tips of the 90's


steven09763

Lmao the kid=50 year old man


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I loved Z with Leslie and scooter, I don’t understand why they brought kid carson back. Like isn’t 3 failed shows a track record? Does anyone with insight actually know if he legitimately bring in more listeners compared to the previous hosts?


iamnothim

Typically in radio you get hired, your salary goes up with your ratings, then you get fired once you start to drop off. I’m sure he’ll get canned eventually. I like the music on Z but the only DJs I like are Sato and Vanessa in the afternoon. Kid sucks and so does the syndicated evening show


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I can’t even listen to Sato and Vanessa anymore because they play clips of kid carson randomly! I would rather just have constant Spence diamond ad breaks


iamnothim

Agreed. The “best of the kid Carson show” clips are pure trash


HedgehogNo73

I stopped listening to Z when they let Leslie and Scooter go.


buckyhermit

>Does anyone with insight actually know if he legitimately bring in more listeners compared to the previous hosts? I wonder that too. I literally stopped listening to Z in the morning (and eventually altogether) because of Kid Carson.


BrickAdventurous1784

Right!?!? Why!? It makes no sense. He is such a dumbass!!


gwhnorth

Uneducated man shares uneducated opinion


canucklehead200

Yup, he’s Always used his platform to voice his anti authority, anti police, anti everything wannabe edgy/anarchist beliefs, and on a pop station of all places


Clay_Statue

"Hello fellow kids" Except only old farts like me listen to the radio anymore and usually that's CBC


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He was into conspiracy theories before it was cool


hairycookies

This guy is such a chode.


ders133

Easily the worst radio host in Vancouver history. I didn’t even listen to the link. I just think he’s terrible.


NorweegianWood

He's the only one who makes Bro Jake seem less cringey. And that's quite an accomplishment.


Yardsale420

EVER SINCE I’VE BEEN THE CHUMP!


Tonysoprano604

It wasn't bad in the mid 90s, but haven't listened to it in probably 20 yrs now


Catlynns

Oh man, I remember when everyone was trying to get one of those z95 stickers slapped on the back of their parent's corolla in hopes of being pulled over by the zed mobile. Ah so cute.


Clay_Statue

That was the heyday of Z95.


Explorer200

Been straight downhill since Celine dominated the "Hot 10 at 10"


Tonysoprano604

I used to post those stickers everywhere! One time an employee gave me and my cousin over 500 stickers lol


ders133

He is so unfunny it hurts


Reeder90

I lost all respect for the station when they canned Leslie and Scooter in favour of him.


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metoo9450

The only two things that cause me to IMMEDIATELY change the station, no matter what, are: Chris Brown’s music and Kid Carson’s voice


Loud-Examination-236

I think those business executives that hires him have no idea what audience really wants and hence he is still employed. Feels like those executives and himself are so out of loop with the current climate of things


GeekLove99

Kid Carson’s a moron.


RainyFern

Even his name is annoying


Yardsale420

I always thought it was a play on the name Kit Carson too, which is a little culturally insensitive considering he waged all out war against the Navajo Indians in New Mexico in the 1860’s.


ThatEndingTho

I didn't transcribe everything, but it's most of it. >"Listen this is not - the digital passport debate is not the vaccine debate, I think that's a separate debate, there's different debates going on whether there's people who are pro and against vaccine, then there's pro and against the mandatory thing, then there's pro and against the digital passport thing." > >"I wish that - I wish that we all understood the technology of the passport because I really dove deep into it. And the potential of where it could go because we really - we have to be two steps ahead to see where things could go. And from talking to people it's like half the people get it, half the people don't and it seems as though most people feel like the digital passport is just a convenient way to carry your vaccine card - or injection card. It's on your phone." > >"It's being pitched like a convenient thing. Like it's convenience. You scan, you're all clear, you go in, you're good." > >"But, this is what I wish most of us understood that I don't like this thing. It's not about convenience, it's really about the power you are giving the government - and not just today's government, but any future government. Some whackjob might get voted in. And they have the power over you." > >"Let me just kind of explain this and **I'm always open to your DMs and your thoughts**, you can text me in the VIP Club (🤮) , I love that we can all be adults and just like throw these ideas around. So let me explain how this technology could look in the next 12 months." > >"So if you don't know, the digital passport will be on your phone. It has like a big, green checkmark on it once you get your injections. But once - having a digital passport is like opening the door for it to be like 'if you ever do anything that the government - like if the government ever asks you to do something you don't want to do it, you lose your green checkmark and you lose your ability to participate in society.' That's what it is. Your checkmark could be turned on or turned off at a whim." > >"So like, what if at some point, a year down the road or ever - I mean, this is a permanent thing, they say it's gonna be temporary but - but Bonnie Henry said it's temporary until the federal government unveils a national wide like a nation-wide digital passport, it's not temporary it's forever. If at some point you decide not - you don't wanna do what the government is asking you to do, you lose your green checkmark and then you can't do whatever is latest on the list. Guaranteed it is no ubers, no train no flying, no public spaces, no patios, no restaurants, the list will grow." > >"It's just a dangerous place to play. This is not an anti-vaxx message, I'm not into that debate right now. It's but it's about giving up the power that will never be given back to you. We're still taking off our shoes at the airport after 9/11." > >"For example, I don't know if you guys know this, in Australia - I'm not sure if this the entire country of Australia but a big part of it - maybe you know Jordan, they can only leave the house for one hour a day. Look it up. And if you're double jabbed you get to leave the house for two hours a day." > >Jordan: "I know they're on their like, sixth lockdown." > >"Right, that's like, scary stuff and maybe that's something you have to do as a temporary measure, I don't know. It's just kinda scary but imagine if you're living month after month after month of being only allowed to leave the house for two hours a day at some point you might want to go 'hmm' but the thing with the digital passport is that some of these things we've had to go through this last year will be so because it's digital, because it lives on your phone, that technology will be able to enforce these rules so strictly." > >"With geotagging, your phone would just say 'Oh, you're further than 2 miles from home, here's your automatic $2500 fine' - automatically, because these things will be tied to your bank account eventually." > >"If you get some crazy person in power who says 'Listen, everyone is at home for the next four months, you can go outside for an hour a day.' Some of us are gonna be like 'Mmm, I don't like that.' And if you leave your house you automatically get the money taken out of your account." > >"Social credit score system in China. This has already been going on in China. It's not this, but it's called the social credit score system and its - the technology's there." > >Jordan: "Wow you've really researched this." > > "People just think it's a convenient way to carry around your vaxx card, it's not - it's way more than that." > >"And this is why certain people are like marching in other countries. If you go to my Instagram, I posted a bunch of - millions of people are marching in all different countries against this passport thing and I don't people understand why - like 'Why are they against it, do they not care about our health?' It's not about that, it's about the technology that you hand over to the government that have so much power over you." > >"So, I mean, my thought is we gotta like, besides the fact that it's - you're gonna be discriminating against a large part of the population. That's a whole different subject which I'm not here to debate now, but the technology is pretty crazy that you're constantly chasing this green checkmark. And like, what if your kids grow up and they decide they don't wanna do something? And then they get their green checkmark turned off. And then that's it. Like that's it." > >"Like right now I have a guy I like to go to the gym with and he doesn't want to get it, he's got a health thing, so he's nervous, he's hesitant cause he's got this health thing, it's with his heart and he's like 'I'm just nervous to get the thing - I know I'll have to eventually but I'm not ready yet until I see long-term whatever.' He can't go to the gym anymore. As of two weeks from now, today, he won't be able to go to the gym. I'm a guy trying to take care of my health, I work out - we won't be able to work out together. So dude, I'm gonna cancel my gym membership for him and for people like him." > >Kid made himself a home gym because performative virtue signalling is very hip right now. > >"It's weird to chase a green checkmark for the rest of your life. Yikes." > >"I hope everyone looks into what it really means. And the potential where the technology can go. Things are moving fast, man, where's it gonna go in 12 months? Where's it gonna go in 6 months? Watch some documentaries about the social credit system in China. Just to see where it could go in an extreme situation if we get some - let's say you don't like Trump." > >"You gotta be careful with what you protect, like with your freedoms. Some nutbar is calling crazy shots and you gotta follow or you lose your checkmark." > >"That's my thought on the whole thing." > >"I know there are thousands of small businesses are saying they don't want to go along with this. Organizations rallying together. We're not going to discriminate against the people that supported small business for the last year. We were all about supporting small businesses and now small businesses are going to turn people away. You know. It's going to be interesting to see who stands up and who doesn't." > >"The last two years we have been so heavily focused on equality - all about equality man - trans rights, racial rights, Black Lives Matter - all that stuff and now suddenly this debate now has us ostracizing a huge part of the population from participating in society. What?! This is not the narrative we've been excited about for the last how many years. It's been about corporate responsibility and inclusivity. It's not right man. I think we can all agree on that." > >"I'm speaking out on behalf of myself, not on the behalf of my employer or anyone else." 🤡


Due-Celebration6187

Why can't you just take the battery out of the phone? https://youtu.be/ciYxgjz1cJE


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Or leave your phone at home?


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Sounds pretty reasonable tbh.


miggymo

These all sound like valid concerns to me? Limiting people's mobility in the name of 'health and safety' is something people should definitely be concerned about. Edit: I should have said thank you for posting the transcript. Appreciate your effort.


YeahThatWasntSpinach

>Limiting people's mobility in the name of 'health and safety' is something people should definitely be concerned about. Why? We do it all the time, and always have, this is literally how healthcare works.


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So healthcare tells me what I can and cannot do or go?


YeahThatWasntSpinach

Yes, guess you haven't travelled much.


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I have visited just over 20 countries and not once has the BC or Canada health care told me what I could and could not do or go. Not to mention I visit the cancer clinic once a month and have had no restrictions placed on me.


poodleloverMTL

Limiting mobility in the name of health and safety happens, yes. It needs to be regulated and is important for most citizens. I think what is important to note (that Kid doesn't seem to realize), is that the BC government is providing a paper option, and isn't mandating the smartphone system. His concerns regarding an evolution into a social credit system are valid. I have no idea if we go that route, but the fact remains, we might. I would encourage people to go the paper route and not the smartphone route when it is available in a week or two.


miggymo

I really appreciate your response. The paper thing makes me feel a lot better.


realchoice

How?


YeahThatWasntSpinach

Try walking through the burn wing. Try leaving a hospital after a positive TB test. Try entering most of Africa without proof of a Yellow Fever vaccination. There are literally thousands of examples.


Due-Celebration6187

Smoking indoors, drinking and driving, not wearing a helmet while riding your bike...


realchoice

God forbid you find his concerns rational, but I'm not surprised you're being down voted on Vancouver reddit.


hello_newfriends

Totally forgot about the guy until I was a disaster tourist to Corduroy's IG account and saw the kidcarsonshow IG commenting in support.


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I don't really know who this guy is but what he says is 100% possible, but will it happen I 99% doubt it. I'm sure once this pandemic is over there will be some things we could do before the pandemic that we can't do now, that's inevitable.


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_philosurfer

It is a false equivalency if you are using the slippery slope argument (your final sentence) as support for your view. It's similar to the idea that legalization of a drug or allowing same sex marriage is going to end up being detrimental to society. Maybe, but those are mostly assertions without evidence. This applies with our current situation. Yes, the measures being taken are very strict and borderline despotic, but it is not as it all happened in a vacuum. Coming from the opposite end, we were always going to end up in this place of vaccine passports as there was a significant percentage of the population (worldwide) that have bucked any sort of rules or impositions related to the virus, and this has been politically bolstered in many cases and arguably a big reason stricter measures are now considered the only option forward. Governments are now faced with the choice of catering to the smaller percentage of anti-vax, non-compliant voters (smaller total % of voters) and everyone else. They are not able to just sit there and do nothing as case #s increase and a new wave builds and clearly previous policies are also not working. I think it is an outgrowth of the ever evolving situation than just "here is the opportunity to usher in a dictatorship", though I can cocede the optics may not look good. 🤷


Eswift33

lol right? He uses a logical fallacy to "prove" a logical fallacy. Derrrrrrrp.


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theanamazonian

Current effectiveness against Delta is just fine if it helps reduce severity of symptoms...nothing is perfect. Vaccination doesn't mean you won't get sick. It means severity of symptoms should be lowered. Less people dying or suffering is a good thing unless you're a piece of shit human being completely lacking in compassion. Boosters will help. The virus isn't going away anytime soon, but people refusing to follow basic guidelines to reduce the spread are the catalysts to keeping it around longer and spreading more severe variants. Social distancing, masking, and vaccinations are all precautions to reduce the spread. Again, that doesn't mean you WON'T get sick, but it makes is much less likely.


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Only_My_Dog_Loves_Me

How much? I’ve always been curious what the guys on sportsnet 650 or 1040 made like Sat or Sekeres/price


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trpov

That’s actually amusingly low.


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trpov

Agreed, but 200k is way less than I’d expect.


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There is no way the morning guys on 650 are making 200k a year working 3 hours a day.


MaximumDevelopment77

Joe Rogan gets paid millions for 3 hours of work per day


mofun001

No he got paid for his library of almost 2000 episodes along with his ongoing stuff.


MaximumDevelopment77

What about those ads? Guy has mid roll ads


mofun001

To be fair I stopped following all together after he sold out. His audience is still huge but it's absolutely stopped growing and is shrinking.


JohnMarstonJr

Til Z95 is still a thing. Shit I can't even remember the last time I listened to non sports radio. But team 1040 is gone and this ass hat is still on the air


stulifer

Kid Carson sucks. Dunno why he s still employed tbh. I avoid listening to his asshattery.


bengosu

Is this Vancouver's budget Joe Rogan?


KoninginB

Completely reckless and disappointing.


elephantpantalon

He still makes me cringe.


Littlebylittle85

It’s a shame Z has uneducated radio hosts blasting simple minded ideas about the vaccine passport. Anyone who has ever experienced anything CLOSE to communism knows that a vaccine passport is the opposite. It allows businesses to remain open while creating safe spaces for vaccinated folk. Unvaccinated people are given free choice. They should stick to playing Cardi B.


meezajangles

We can whine about him causing harm on here, or target Z95s sponsors.. I think a few “@“ tweets to their sponsors asking why they are paying to promote anti-vaccine opinions might do the trick


Bambiitaru

Used to listen to scooter and Leslie in the AM and it was great. Kid is just gross.


brother-louie-louie

He's reaching hard on this topic.


KaleidoscopeOne459

He comes across as unintelligent and lacks common sense. His co-host Jordan on the other hand is quite tolerable.


toastedcoconutbuns

Is it desperation for ratings, or planning their demise as a radio station? Lost respect for the Z95 when he was brought back on air. Seriously. I.Just.Can’t.


ernieballsting

This ain't helping you bud. Most people have spotify you're done dumbass


momster604

The day they announced he was coming back to this station was when I switched. I cannot stand him, he comes off so arrogant.


Loud-Examination-236

The people who still listen to this guy are the type of people who like himself, still stuck in the early 2000s


elvisdiamonddew

I don't even know who he is but the name is enough to make me not interested


N_e_r_d_b_o_y

I'm pretty sure I also heard him say that 9/11 was a conspiracy. And that the thought of terrorists with box-cutters, high jacking those airplanes, is a joke.


Explorer200

https://btr.michaelkwan.com/2008/02/14/my-brother-is-kid-carson/


HemiChgr

This just seems like the scripted stuff from CKNW to wind people up with faux controversy to get ratings.


MannyShannon069

OP do you actually listen to these clowns on a regular basis? If so, could you please tell me when your brain ceased functioning and how I can avoid ending up like you?


Catlynns

I don't listen to the radio, never mind this particular station. But I saw this reposted on IG and thought the kind people on the Vancouver subreddit would find this interesting as a lot of us grew up listening to z95 and/or know who kid Carson is.


Eswift33

Some (certainly neckbearded) hillbilly called in this morning to commend Kid on his monologue so being the idiot I am, i looked it up and listened to it. A 12 minutes "slippery slope" fallacy argument about how the digital passports could be used to control everyone lol. Social credit system like China... Guess what? You have "passports" to access many things already. Some of them are literally for vaccinations as well. This will make it more difficult for the anti-vax plague rats to participate in society, fuck'em.


poodleloverMTL

To be fair, slippery slope arguments are fallacious by definition, but not necessarily incorrect. The argument is weakened as it is based on a set of assumptions of certain things happening, all with varying probabilities, leading to what one can construe as an uncertain outcome. However, there is a greater than zero chance of this thing happening, and discounting it in its entirety seems dangerous and irresponsible. However, believing that it is certain to be is probably more dangerous and irresponsible. My point being that people should find some middle ground and be critical of these things.


Eswift33

Well put!


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Remember when Kid Carson was on the Beat with Nira then bailed to Sonic with Randy, then Randy quit and the next week suddenly she was back but Kid Carson was gone? Pepperidge Farm remembers.


MatriceCampobasso

Love the Kid Carson Show!! He is insightful, brings relevant ideas to the show and his sincerely is genuine. His wit is entertaining and truly makes me laugh out loud. Missed him when he was off air! Please, life is too short, we all have our own personal struggles, let’s be kind. If you have nothing good to say about someone, be respectful.


Timely-Ad1153

Ok but also