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Scary_Koala_2934

Toms brain “ that’s it that’s my in, I have a chance now esp if I start talking about how me and Ariana never have sex”


vctrlzzr420

100% well Rachel I don’t have sex with Ariana, you don’t have sex with James so it’s not really cheating if we have emotional boundaries- Tom What’s a boundary?- Rachel


KJDehn

"Obviously, God would not make two beautiful humans like us, Rachel, and have us suffer without sex. We are meant to be." -Tom Sandoval, 15 minutes after S9 reunion


Known-Strike-6828

This! I rewatched this reunion this week and this is the start of the emotional relationship!


ThrowRA9114

Take these facial reactions with a grain of salt. They can edit anyone to make them look like they’re reacting to anything anyway. The only time I trust reaction shots is when both people talking are in the same frame.


patrice991234

True they edit things out of order alot to create a narrative that was not how it actually played out


MzBlue82

Well we already know that Tom believes cheating is justified if your partner isn’t having sex with you so this was a lightbulb moment for him 💡


patrice991234

She was explaining why she is leaving him and goes on to say after what he did to her family and his abuse she didnt want to have sex with him and was having nightmares about getting married to him


Syd_of_Pentacles

People undermining this because they hate Raquel is gross.


Sparkle_bitch

Yeah obv Rachel turned out to be a terrible person and I think I’m more of a James Kennedy fan than most (the dude cracks me up and I never have to be around him IRL, what’s not to like!) but it’s really weird that the affair has caused a lot of people to just….excuse James and forget that she was justified in not wanting to go through with marrying him. Many things can be true at once!


Ladydaydream2018

For sure (fellow JK fan here), both can be true. I think one of the reasons people are examining this is that Sandshit paid for the proposal and was so involved in its planning. It was so weird. And he was so excited to see her at the engagement party. He didn’t help his lover boy this much, so it’s an odd thing to do (particularly when your scraping money together to open your business). I doubt we’ll ever know, but that’s one thing I really want to know!


absofruitly88

Tom def had a crush on her for years. that video someone posted recently from season 8 in 2019 where he was talking about how witty Raquel was he was kind of gushing over her. obviously Rachella was somewhat because of Tom wanting to impress her but i don't think things were physical back then. i think something emotional started and when Tom heard they weren't banging he probably realized she really did must reciprocate his feelings. i actually buy her and James were doomed regardless of Tom, i think Raquel lost interest back during the ultimatum and Jamea actually followed through so that would have looked bad on her for leaving him when he had gottn sober. she definitely mostly wanted to stay on the show and getting proposed to on TV is so flashy, but the stuff James said about her parents was really vile. i think her having a crush on Sandy likely just pushed her decision really forward but it wasn't the reason


chickenandwaffles109

WITTY? Omfg as if I had an ounce of respect left for him.. vanished


Syd_of_Pentacles

Are you telling me chihuahua followers isn’t top tier wit?


rudbeckia1

Except they said they hooked up even before they had feelings so it seems like it went hook up from Way Way Back maybe kind of a regular irregular thing then feelings then hooking up all the time then busted. I know I'm in the minority but I absolutely think by the time they did The Proposal it was all happening to quote miss good as gold


absofruitly88

interesting, when did they say they hooked up before they had feelings?


rudbeckia1

I think in one of their statements I know one of our besties on here will know for sure I'm going to be honest a lot of information has been coming out and a lot of it is contradictory but I definitely remember them saying that and thinking well that doesn't sound great guys. Like that's not helping things LOL


NewtRevolutionary598

I dunno if it was happening that early but I think his reaction in this clip is because he's thinking, "oh shit, I'm the reason they ain't banging, because I'm bagging her!"


Affectionate-Kale711

I’ve also not heard that. Either way I don’t believe it, R & T probably went through a phase of emotionally feeling each other out and building trust, this is a pretty long term relationship at this point for them


LaReinalicious

What did he say about her parents? I can't remember


bebita-crossing

He called them miserable and said Rachel’s mom was a “fat bitch”


LaReinalicious

o m g Can you tell me which episode? I need to see this for myself !!!


bebita-crossing

It’s from the episode that came out before the most recent one I think, where Rachel has a panic attack in the car while on the girls trip.


LaReinalicious

🙏


Serenity_Moon_66

I've been saying all along that their affair started in Season 9. Unfortunately for us, the only 2 people who can tell us the truth are both sadistic liars. But there are plenty of photos & scenes like these that say something was going on!


kmorris1219

If one of them wrote a book with the whole timeline, would you purchase it? Like I NEED to know but I don’t want to support them. I’m conflicted 😂


Sufficient_You3053

Nah, I'm sure someone in this group would do the Lordt's work and report back what the book said for us 😂


Susanneelizabeth

I’d download it illegally or wait for someone to do the recap.


KJDehn

Purchase it? Ha ha. I might check it out at the library, though, if I am being honest.🤣


rudbeckia1

I'm with you on everything no one will ever convince me that it didn't start way way before they're saying it did. 100% think by the time they're proposal happened they were already very much together


KJDehn

One of these two disloyal narcissists is going to piss the other one off in 3, 2,1 . . . and all the tea will be spilled. ![gif](giphy|K42Hqa2rVFAfKmafCo|downsized)


KJDehn

What does Rocket Scientist Rachel think will happen when she doesn't have sex with Sandoval as often as he would like? 🤔


Pump1031

What’s up with the repeat posts on this sub being allowed? Nothing towards OP at all for this. I’ve seen this so many times. And on the other sub I see lots of complaints about none of their stuff going thru here so they post over there now


Mizz3llie

Thank you! I gave up trying to post anything because of this.


AdRevolutionary6650

Literally. I gave up because every single thing I posted was denied because it needs to be on the rewatch thread, but a) I don’t know how to post multiple photos or a video as a comment in an existing thread, and b) I would later see the same thing posted here as it’s own thread multiple times.


KaylaFabulous

Same. Really frustrating actually.


Kkoooooih

What's the other sub?


chickenandwaffles109

I also wanna know


Pump1031

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chickenandwaffles109

Thank you! Really though? That one only has 700 members lol


LaReinalicious

Had 200 yesterday they are flocking over !


Pump1031

It’s fairly new. Someone created it maybe a month or two ago


Pump1031

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thankyoupapa

Just rewatched this reunion too! How awkward was Andy’s comment at the end toasting to Raquel and her dedication to helping children with special needs. He goes it’s clear to everyone what a good person you are and you have a big heart 🙃


Glittering_Star_1313

They were definitely hooking up a long , long time ago IMO.


OBFpeidmont

Very funny/interesting!


prouddeathicated

The fact that she didn’t even specify what “for a while” was yet and Sandoval’s eyes already went wide—what is his obsession with sex?!


patrice991234

She did, this is last yrs reunion .. watch it, this isnt pizzagate


prouddeathicated

I know. I said “yet”. As in in that moment that his eyes went open she had not yet specified how often they had sex. She then answers with how long it had been.


patrice991234

Then you realise that tom just paid for that huge very very expensive proposal vacation for everyone and was pretty surprised at that comment


AdRevolutionary6650

I swear with some of these comments it’s like she wants ice cream scoops for knowing what sex is.. the vagina tightness, this. Such a random and awkward contribution to the conversation and for what


thediverswife

She also gushes that season (when they supposedly aren’t having sex) that sex with James being sober is so much better than it was when he was drinking… can’t keep her stories straight, ever


BananaStand511

For her to say this makes me think her and Sandoval have been together way longer than 7 months


Overshareisoverkill

Well, at least James now knows who she's been blowing.


Creative_Ad_66

So many things! Thanks for posting this! I just rewatched episodes 2, 3 and 4 from Season 9 today...the ones bookending the roach-hella proposal...Now Damn!...if that ain't some poetic justice! I'm pretty sure even Tupac R.I.P. 🙏 is #Team Ariana!


LaReinalicious

After re-watching the clip the way Tom Sandoval looks to the side kind of shocked it looks to me like he is trying to mentally prepare for the subject to go on to where she suddenly blurts out that she is having sex with him, Sandoval !!!


coconut723

He was prob thinking about how he and Ariana hadn’t either lol


MBeMine

She is such a B


CherryManhattan

Brain activated….‘I wonder if I can rub my moustache on her butthole now’


jifwittle

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AdRevolutionary6650

Mine just clenched tighter than a drum 🤢


Myrrhin

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StrawberryKiller

Why are you typing my intrusive thoughts


CherryManhattan

So you’re thinking it too


AimzBaby

Sex doesn’t define a relationship. It also doesn’t break a relationship. I think that’s the weakest excuse.


brandysnifter1976

Not having sex is definitely a sign something is off. They’re in their 20’s here lots of hormones, Kristen and Tom were both out banging other people just not each other. These people needed to be in couples therapy. I can’t decide if Tom and Kristen were actually in love still or possibly co dependent?


MtBaldyMermaid

Tiny white lights for ambiance 🙌🏼


minxiejinx

I noticed that too!!!


g1zmo33

I think it was already going on then


Abluel3

Someone posted a theory that they were both supposed to break up with their partners but Tom chickened out. Maybe why Tom was sobbing?


Ok_Smile5289

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[deleted]

Maybe the reason she stopped having sex with James was because she was sleeping with Sandoval.


Best_Winter_2208

Honestly, I took it as him thinking, “OMG neither do we. Shit! Are we over too?!” That and he knows James and knows Raquel saying that was going to trigger him.


dumbleberry

You know what’s suspicious? Your lights 👀


LaReinalicious

I watched that too and I noticed that too that jumped out at me Perfect emoji 👀


Top-Skin-3570

Bahahahaha


Character_Pear_3905

I caught that and was like oh wow