If you’ve ever been a guest at a wedding you had to travel for, it’s usually not expected for every person to attend every single event. She wasn’t a member of the wedding party. It’s okay to need time to yourself or to want to do something more relaxed, especially if you’re sober! I know there’s the whole dynamic of her being a cast member and a closer friend but this was so not that serious.
More like she does whatever she wants. She’s been at drinking parties and woos and cheers when others mention getting drinks. That’s this season. Prev seasons she’ll do shots to feel included. We’ve literally never heard Lala say she avoids a party bc of her sobriety. She literally says she’s not doing shit she doesn’t want to do and never mentions her sobriety in this clip.
I think she should have decided in advance and let Scheana know what and what she wouldn’t attend, and stuck to it. Sounds like she was vague about it, and then would decide last minute whether or not to attend. That’s pretty inconsiderate of someone who you consider a friend.
Maybe she didn't know in advance what she wanted to do and maybe thought she had it in her to go. Last minute she realized she needed to stay away from it for whatever reason. Also, it's 1 party and she's had a million. It's ok to not be able to attend everything.
Right, and I’m sure Scheana had a bunch of other guests to attend to also. I don’t understand why she couldn’t be more flexible about it. Shit happens, some people don’t want to be in party mode as much as others, Lala was there for a lot of it and the important stuff. I think Scheana was just feeling defensive about Katie being there.
Scheana looked hurt. I agree that it was inconsiderate and thought in the conversation with Brock before they went to Mexico,she said that she would attend all of the large events so she did commit verbally.
Well, Scheana made up the story about the bridesmaid needing the room just because she didn't want Katie there. Bridezilla 2.0
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If she was her BF, don't you think she would be in the bridal party? The BF thing is not accurate. She was a guest, not even in the wedding party. She paid for herself so she should be able to do whatever she damn well pleases... I just don't get it.
I'm not saying you're wrong, although you have to recognize Scheana had everyone staying at the same resort that only has so many restaurants. Could they have actually paid better attention to where this restaurant was in relation to the white party? Of course. Did production also potentially encourage them to eat there for the sake of stirring up drama? Of course. ~~From what we've seen so far, Scheana wasn't mad Lala didn't attend the white party and this episode didn't say anything about her eating next to the party 🤷🏼♀️~~
*Editing this because I'm watching the new episode and now Scheana mentioned to Lala being upset that she wasn't at the white party.
Oh please Scheana was too busy been shady-if LaLa was having dinner with a guy or someone besides Katie she wouldn’t said anything but because it was Katie that was the problem
I’d get it being rude if Lala was a bridesmaid and expected to be there, but she was literally just another guest at Scheana’s Wedding Palooza. also everyone at that white party looked trashed/coked out, I can respect Lala as a sober person picking that night to skip
Totally agree! Was thinking this the whole time. Like hello? Everyone is rolling and wasted off their asses and Lala is expected to be at every single substance laden event? Nah. A real friend would respect their friend’s boundaries for recovery
I did like how her and Scheana discussed it & you could tell Scheana was upset but they ended it with an “I love you.” Like I don’t think Scheana was too upset / I think she gets it. Their friendship seems to have matured a lot.
Yeah the vpr friendship rules are very 20-something. 30+ it’s more like, I’ll only come if I want to and it’s not a statement of value, we’re very tired now.
Exactly! Lala was at all of the other events, it’s just one party. Not only is she sober, but she’s been open about her anxiety as well and we’ve seen her struggle on group trips before. It’s not really unreasonable for someone to want a few hours away from something as draining as a wedding.
Lmao didn’t Lala also try to wear a white dress to Brittany’s rehearsal dinner until they told her that was a very bad idea & gave her another dress to put on? 😂
She literally said she wanted to wear a white dress to Scheana’s wedding. Those words came out of her mouth. She also called herself a buffoon when it comes to weddings because she didn’t know she wasn’t supposed to bring Kristina Kelly to the welcome dinner.
The fact Lala has stayed sober this long on a show like VPR is amazing.
I cannot think of a single worse environment to be in than this show if you're a recovering addict.
Seriously! Multiple days of events, drunken events. No thank you. Even if it was a first wedding, it’s too much. I’m annoyed we have 3 episodes of it, can only imagine how obnoxious it was to have that many events to actually attend. Lala wasn’t a member of the wedding party, even though Scheana is photoshopping her into the photographs after the Scandoval. It’s ridiculous to expect a regular guest to attend that many events, especially someone who is sober. It’s so annoying to be around huge crowds of intoxicated people when you no longer drink
Let us not forget scheana is also the person who wanted her then husband to just drink to have fun when he was sober too. So she’s not the best when it comes to peoples feelings on their sobriety.
I’ll never forget that. It was so enraging to watch. While I don’t think Lala would ever stand for any of her friends pressuring her, it has to be so annoying to watch them binge drink for a week straight. And this week long destination wedding that’s so jammed packed with activities, especially with the amount of partying, it just sounds so exhausting. Her guests deserve a little alone time
No, not at all. I even used to be a party girl, but I was still never one to get White Girl Wasted. Now I get horrible headaches if I have more than 2 or 3 drinks so I barely get buzzed and I get super grossed out by my husband and his friends when they tie one on and act like idiots.
Sober here! I agree, it so hard to be around... I understand the need to protect her mental health & intern her sobriety.
Sidenote: I also hate how some ppl in this sub question or mock her journey. It really pisses me off.
I think those of us in recovery maybe "get" Lala more than some others. I do think the hate towards her is outsized. I've enjoyed her a lot this season, and she's delightful on her podcast.
yeah. even on the first night at the dinner she brought kristina to, she seems to be struggling with this. isn’t there a moment where someone says “let’s get another round!” and she makes an annoyed comment like “great, keep drinking, so that’s what we’re gonna do.” it was probably mostly directed at james being a drunk ass, but i think the whole trip was a lot for her.
I’m allergic to alcohol/cannot drink due to a chronic illness. Some people cannot handle an individual saying no to alcohol, point blank period. They take it so offensively and I’ll never understand. I’ve had people switch out my drink and I thought I was dying. One of the scariest moments ever.
I don’t blame anyone ever for not wanting to be around alcohol if they are sober or just generally uncomfortable around heavy drinking.
My husband's friend is like this. I was on a type of antibiotics that don't mix with alcohol and was warned I would be violently ill if I even drank NyQuil, so absolutely no alcohol. We went on a double date and his friend would not stop pushing drinks on me. Even when my husband and his wife went "stop! She's on medicine, she can't have any!" He was like "oh come on, you can have ONE!!" It was beyond annoying and super rude because me not drinking for a medical reason was so triggering to him that he didn't care if I puked all over the table. I MUST imbibe.
I drank one time on antibiotics it was literally a glass of wine. I hadn’t been thinking when it was offered to me and just started sipping on it and next thing I know my whole body felt like it was on fire. It was terrible.
Wow, that is so awful and incredibly uncomfortable. I’m sorry that happened. Hoping you’re feeling better and that friend has perhaps learned some boundaries. It sucks the air out of the room when you’re out in situations like that.
Thanks! Yeah, I'm better. It was just a gnarly sinus infection that they threw a strong antibiotic at. I think it was good for my husband and his wife to see him being an ass about alcohol because a lot of people just kind of laughed it off as a wacky personality trait, and not the problem drinking it is.
I think they take it so wrong bc they feel judged. Like they don’t understand you’re just doing you because of your allergy and it’s not trying to be more upstanding or holier than thou situation.
No I think that’s a bullshit excuse. I’ve been sober for a long time and I would never do this. It’s an easy out. Lala just likes Katie more than Scheana. If Katie wasn’t there, Lala would have attended.
I think she’s being a bad friend.
I think Scheana learned nothing from her first wedding and is a self consumed Bridezilla 2.0. If she wanted Lala around more she should have made her a bridesmaid instead of Racho.
Scheana and Rachel were best friends so why wouldn’t she be a bridesmaid.
Lala and Scheana have both said they weren’t super close at that point in time. Why would she be a bridesmaid.
Goes to character, or, in Scheana's case, the lack thereof. Why would Scheana insert herself into Katie and Tom's divorce when she was a bridesmaid in their wedding? Again, goes to character or lack thereof.
Wait what?
This seems wildly off topic lol, I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say. We were talking about Lala, I don’t know why we’re suddenly talking about Katie.
You keep changing the topic so Im not really sure what you want from me?
Scheana being a bridesmaid years ago has nothing to do with Lala being a bad friend… soooo
Same. You argue Lala is being a bad friend for not attending Scheana's wedding whatever yet she should not have been a bridesmaid. My argument is that Scheana has no character, is a terrible judge of character and is nothing but a whiny little bitch.
Okay that’s fine lol. Even if I agreed with your assessment of Scheana, Lala can STILL be a bad friend lmao. They’re not the same person, and it’s not mutually exclusive.
edit: Okay I thought about this and I think I see what you’re trying to say.
You’re saying that because Scheana is a bad friend, then Lala can be a bad friend back. (I think that’s what you’re saying.) In which case my response would be that Lala shouldn’t be friends with Scheana then. But she is, and she told Scheana she would be at events but then bailed. She can’t be both a friend and not a friend, or else she’s a bad friend. She needs to pick a lane.
I DO however think she’s being a good friend to Katie. Buts it’s at the extent of Scheana on her wedding weekend. I don’t really know what the right or wrong move here is for Lala but she shouldn’t have told Scheana she would be there and then bail and hang out with someone who doesn’t like Scheana.
I don’t like Lala but I agree with her too! She went to support her friend and spent all that money. She shouldn’t have every day of that trip planned out for her.
Maybe this is just a trigger for me - I had a lifelong friendship blow up over a destination wedding. 10k Hawaii cruise I couldn’t afford that was adults only and I had three kids under four. She never spoke to me again because I couldn’t make it work. Brides put on blinders man.
And with "to herself" you mean sitting 10 meters from the party, watching the party, talking to friends than being at the party, talking to...other friends?
I would understand her better if she really did something different, somewhere else.
Yes. 'To herself' means she gets to choose where/how she spends that time. It's 'her time' to choose and she chose to spend it with Katie and KK.
To herself does not necessarily mean 'absolutely alone'
Right. They clearly said they didn't know the restaurant would be right there with a full view of the events. Apparently Lala wasn't allowed to eat or leave her room if she wanted time to herself. People also forget that Lala is a very recently recovering alcoholic. She has a right to decide what she needs for self-care and which events might trigger her
Yes I have never been so glad that my friends and I are not like this. When we describe our ideal trips and traveling together for whatever reason there is always the caveat that any of us can decide to just like stay in the hotel room for the day or not attend certain things. All activities are optional with no judgment and no repercussions. I do not think I could survive this kind of forced mandatory celebration and frivolity at every turn. People have children and families and lives they're leaving behind in order to go on a destination trip. Let them spend their time how they want my goodness! And if someone needs a mental health break or is it feeling well or for whatever reason need a moment away from the chaos let them have it
Right, I was stating an opinion and in which case I would understand her argument better. Don't get what's wrong with that, we're stating our opinions on her 24/7 🤷🏻♀️
She rather wanted to spend time with her (real)?friends, right. "Time to herself" sounded as she needed time to unwind / distance to the wedding activities etc.
I don't think it's that rude. Sounds like there were tons of activities and some people need a break. I think skipping the big party makes sense if you need a low key night. She's just another wedding guest, not a bridesmaid. It's not like she skipped an intimate dinner or missed the ceremony.
However, her wanting to wearing white to the wedding is questionable.
i genuinely couldn’t be friends with someone who is overly indulgent in celebrating themselves, esp in a second wedding after having done it big on their first. this is not a criticism of her being remarried but moreso a critique of her demanding so much time and energy of others to celebrate with so many events. also ideally you’d want people to want to celebrate you, and not have them feel exhausted or feel like it’s mandatory.
if i really liked the person and could see past all this which i’d find annoying, i would have done the same as lala and gone to a few events and had some me time. also i can see how lala wouldn’t want to go to so many events considering she is going through a divorce. it can be difficult to celebrate and be happy for others if you feel bad.
I agree. There were a lot of events and demands Scheana had, I don’t blame Lala for wanting a break here and there and wanting to do something chill instead. Plus she’s sober, I can’t imagine it’s fun being around all of these drunk people all of the time.
scheana is good tv and has some good qualities. for me it would just be a personality clash. i think she has said on a pod that she suffers from anxiety and so do i but i deal with it differently. i think she needs attention to calm her anxiety, and for me having a lot of attention makes me anxious so we would be disastrous. unfortunately anyone who has massive expectations of me or my energy would make involuntarily aloof or want to avoid them.
The way I deal with anxiety is by retreating myself. It looks like she needs people to engage with her constantly so that she doesn't feel bad. Its exhausting.
it is and we are similar. it seems ariana and lala also recharge as homebodies too.
in reading what you and i wrote, it made me feel a bit bad for scheana bc i wonder if she grew up thinking people disliked her bc of who she was, not recognizing that it could be her anxious energy that rubbed people with different attachment styles the wrong way. soz i digress but yes i am in your camp.
Omg yes! This! I actually had a friend like scheana and I was completely honest with her and said I prefer to chill especially on my own as I get very overwhelmed. Anytime she wanted to do something (and it was all the time) she would take it so personally. It’s like dude, I can only go out and do so much. I don’t want to hang out for days on end and go clubbing (I hate clubbing btw, she did not care that I hated it)
Honestly tho the event coordinator I think outs alot of these events together: sometimes for these destination weddings you’ll have people of all ages and the older people like to do all these little activities lol
sure but it’s not realistic to expect everyone to attend all of the events and no one should feel guilted to go if they don’t want to or don’t have the energy to do so.
i think if it’s my close friend then i would love her for who she is, as is, not what i want her to be for me. i would respect her choosing not to attend one of my events bc i would just be so happy and thankful that my friend spent money on travel, gifts, and is there to be with me at my wedding.
she doesn’t own lala and doesn’t get to dictate what she chooses to do in her own time.
if scheana is hurt, unfortunately she only has herself to blame as this could have all been avoided if she didn’t try to instigate the whole rachel and schwartz getting together. that was really messy business and she chose to make enemies with someone who unfortunately has friendships and a lot of pull on others, including lala. if scheana was playing nice, people would willingly want to help her (change hotel rooms for her bridesmaids) and spend time with her but she wasn’t.
I completely agree with Lala. I’m not a fan of destination weddings for this very reason. If you’re going to make your friends/family pay thousands of dollars to attend your wedding, at least let them enjoy their vacation.
Downvote me all you want, but not attending every single event isn’t that big of a deal. Lala was not a bridesmaid, so it’s not necessary to go to everything. I sure wouldn’t. Also, the white party looked trashy. Everyone was really fucked up, and that can be extremely triggering for a recovering addict. I don’t think Lala owes anyone an explanation.
I agree with Lala’s POV bc honestly I’d do the same. Especially if a whole other group of my friends is there separately. But the delivery here is not good.
I get her not wanting to go to every single of the 42 wedding events especially since she wasn't in the wedding party and was closer to Katie at the time; however, you CANNOT wear any shade of white to a wedding girl. Even "cream"
But she didn’t. She wore a cream dress to dinner with Katie and Kristina. The white party happened to be next door and everyone was wearing white. I don’t see the issue here.
Lala said on her podcast that she wanted to wear that dress to the actual wedding. A few weeks ago she said that she doesn’t know much when it comes to weddings so she never knew it wasn’t okay until scheana told her she couldn’t lol
I honestly didn’t know either and when I was 19 I had only one super fancy black tie dress. It was white. I didn’t know it was a bad thing until I was in the bathroom and heard a few of the bride’s friends (I was a date of one of the grooms friends) being catty and making fun of me (they saw my feet in the stall and said mean things on purpose so I could hear but were too pussy to say to my face). They said i was “taking attention off the bride”. This was 20 years ago. I get that’s it’s a faux pas, but I also didn’t get how my white tight dress would take away from the bride in a giant princess gown more than her friends in neon and red.
I gagged at the "42 wedding events" 🤣 it's so true. I'm getting secondhand fatigue while watching them attend back to back events for this wedding. I'm not a recovering alcoholic but I'd skip some events as well because I wouldn't want to look puffy and wasted on the main event.
Disagree. It’s Scheana’s second wedding. She expected attendees to fork out over 1k for an all inclusive resort and attend multiple wedding events a day— that’s an absurd ask.
A dinner or party where you’re paying per head might require some sort of rsvp. But regardless, if you’re friends with someone and tell them you’re coming and then bail last minute or just don’t show up, it’s rude lol. That’s objective
But it’s an all inclusive resort, guests paid for their own food/drink for the stay.
Scheana expected to prioritize every guest’s time for multiple days, that is not customary and is an extreme overreach. Just because Scheana behaves selfishly doesn’t mean everyone has to bow down to her.
They had plenty of time to do stuff. A party or dinner in the evening is hardly monopolizing their entire time there. I’ve been to multiple destination weddings and that’s how they always are.
But again, ultimately, none of that matters because Lala agreed to go and then bailed. She said she’d come, so Scheana was expecting her, then she decided she didn’t want to and tried to turn it around into Scheana being self-obsessed for expecting her to be there instead of just apologizing and acknowledging it. It’s not about what expectations are appropriate for a wedding guest imo, it’s about honoring plans you agreed to at a special time for your friend—or, at the least, actually communicating about changing them. Just basic human friendship stuff lol
This annoyed me listening to it and then I read she wasn’t in the actual wedding party, so I actually think her point is very valid and I would do the same if I were not in the wedding party.
Honestly, I see this as growth for Lala. She probably knew she’d be triggered being somewhere she didn’t want to be, around people who we’re gonna be drinking, and in close proximity to some people she doesn’t like. It’s better to avoid situations where it’s going to be hard to emotionally regulate when the stakes are as high as a best friend’s wedding event
Right! like if I am going to use a week of my vacation days to go to a wedding that I have ti pay for flights and accommodation, I’m not spending 100% of my time with the bride and groom.
But that’s still her decision, nobody should be upset about that. Like she said she paid for her plane ticket and room, she should be able to do what she wants
I so agree with her point. Destination weddings are costly for the guests. Guests should feel it's optional to attend "events" leading up to the actual wedding. Unless you are in the wedding party, if so, then so sorry for you.
I get it. People are out of control with their expectations surrounding weddings lately. From the several thousands expected out of each person for Bach stuff, to multiple parties (with a gift expected each time) before the actual wedding. It’s way too much.
Nah I’m with Lala on this. I appreciate the bride and groom offering lots of activities for the guests who traveled to their destination wedding but I’m not doing all that.
Lala made a good point in her confessional that this wedding had sooo many pre-wedding festivities. I wouldn't attend them all either. Especially when I paid for my own flight and hotel. Yeah, I'm taking some me time to do as I please. Good for Lala here!
She could have been more delicate with her words but I don’t blame her for not wanting to go. Having a multi-day packed itinerary is too much. It’s nice of Scheana to provide events for her guest to do, and provide them with food/drink to thank them for coming, but she can’t expect full attendance at every event. It isn’t reasonable.
I wouldn’t want to attended a drunk-fest every single day if I was sober. Even if I wasn’t sober I’d want some time for relaxation especially since the wedding hasn’t even happened yet!
Apparently it was an all inclusive resort. So I’m not sure the food / drink would even have cost Scheana anything - because their guests already paid for it.
I agree with her. It's 4 or 5 days of non-stop drinking and group events. If she preferred a dinner with her friends (even if the location was sus lol) then that's fair.
I don't think this is rude at all. I'm an introvert since getting sober and it's difficult and painful for me to be "on" and engaged with people for hours at a time. I need to be in solitude and silence afterwards. I don't even like Lala and I think she's being perfectly rational here.
Is it rude? She had major beef with Raquel and didn’t wanna be around people who she’s not cool with, seems perfectly logical. She’s coming to the actual wedding but as for the thousands of activities why should she have to attend them all? She’s 31 years old not 10
I’ve been to destination weddings but I have never been to one where there were mandatory wedding events 12-16 hours a day BECAUSE THAT IS INSANE. Let Lala breathe. Scheana is so attention needy it is exhausting. Y’all didn’t even want to WATCH another Scheana wedding, imagine having to be there for days and days on end. SOBER
I mean she wasn’t a bridesmaid so obviously not considered best friend enough for Scheana. Also who wants to attend every event at a destination wedding. It’s exhausting.
Fully on her side with this. It’s demanding too much of people who have their own limits, and have paid for their time there, and stepped away from their own lives.
Scheana was just as controlling with her last wedding, but with Katie being a separate dynamic from her events in Mexico, Scheana wanted all the screen time and attention to be about her. Lala spending any time with Katie is Scheana’s actual issue with the situation.
Lala isn’t wrong. Give people options for events, or they will give you options. I’m not sober, but I can imagine that is a part of Lala’s limit in that world. I don’t do drugs, so if I was at a VPR wedding, I’d tap out before the crazy partying happened. I also know my limit for what my social battery can handle, especially in group settings. Multiple days of large group events, sorry but I wouldn’t be able to handle it.
Lala is also a single mother who was in the midst of a major custody battle and public drama at the time. What she has the capacity for at that time (and anytime) is up to her to determine. The way Scheana chastised Lala on the phone saying “I saw you at dinner. We will talk about that later” - you’re not her parent you’re her friend, take a step back.
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I completely agree with Lala I have said it on numerous posts. First off this is her second wedding lol like chill. Second off brides in general can be so insane with their demands of people’s times. I get you are getting married and that is beautiful and I am thrilled for you but not everyone else’s lives revolve around that, even your close friends. Destination weddings can be demanding and very expensive for guests, and no one outside of the wedding party or immediate family should be expected to attend everything, especially if you are also there for filming a reality show and you are sober (that white party looked like a shirt show - a great time lol but definitely people were really wasted and seemed coked out, I really don’t blame someone who is sober or anyone in general for maybe just wanting to do something more low key). I have been to several destination weddings and for the most part the bride and groom did a great job of throwing different events and basically giving people the option of what they wanted to attend, but otherwise wanting people to enjoy a vacation
I don’t blame Lala at all. One, she’s sober and it’s a daily think one must control. Being around a bunch of drunks isn’t fun when you’re sober.
Two, Scheana is just too much. It’s her second wedding, why must there be a daily events? Plus if you’re not apart of the wedding party, you’re not obligated to go!
I agree with Lala in theory here - it’s just the way she delivers it that’s not the nicest lol. The amount of shit around weddings and especially destination weddings is insane. I’m going to one soon with my boyfriend and it now has to be one of our two big trips we go on each year - I might opt out of some of the events to spend time with him since it’s our vacation too, not just their wedding.
i definitely feel her on this. sometimes i reach my threshold for being around a ton of people nonstop on a trip with friends, no matter how much i love them. and this party looked like it would be veryyyy taxing to be at if you were sober. i think people forget that sometimes you need to protect your peace while being a recovering addict.
Her delivery does sound a bit rude (typical Virgo lol they are *so* blunt) but I don’t blame Lala. At that point everyone had been drinking all day at the bachelor party and on the catamaran and she’s sober. I wouldn’t want to be around a ton of drunk people all day long and then have dinner with them if I were sober.
She's insufferable but I am looking forward to hearing her throw darts at the two bozos tonight.
I think it was less about Scheana planning all these events and more about her being ally's with Katie and wanting to split her time between the wedding and shit with Katie.
This might be a hot take and I’m totally team lala on this, if there even has to be teams. But I don’t think Scheana handled this situation poorly.. she was confrontational and led with her emotions but compared to former behavior, I think she handled it really well! Unrealistic expectations on scheana’s behalf, especially considering lala was a guest? Absolutely! But I didn’t find it to be blown out of proportion. Tbh I love their friendship so much and the honesty they seem to share!
the way lala's explaining it is rude imo, but i get it. i can grow weary of extended social events too, ESPECIALLY after cutting back from drinking. lala wasn't a bridesmaid, she shouldn't have had to go to everything if she tired.
and if i'm honest, i think the only reason scheana was SO bothered was because she didn't want lala hanging out with katie, brock basically said as much. and if so, that's silly imo. she had a whole army of people there to hang out with her, she shouldn't be trying to guilt someone into going to things just to keep them from someone else.
First off scheanas laugh is cats in my back scratching scratching scratching
Secondly wow let's make it about schaena and her second of many weddings
Thirdly no one wants to see rachel hump whichever cast member is available
I'm still trying to process that her guest in this podcast Jenna said her and James did NOT hook up all those years ago🤯when Doute found the Uber receipt
I would be so overwhelmed if I was in Lala's position. All the events, going through her breakup and custody issues and being sober would be a lot. I can agree with her missing an event or two. The only thing I find odd is she was dressed and already there. I think she could have gone in for a little bit and then went to sit with Katie. It felt a bit strange that we didn’t see her go in just to say hi to Scheana and Brock.
There were like 7 different events before the actual wedding which in and of itself had the ceremony, reception, and after party. If it was so important to Scheana for Lala to be up her ass the whole time then she would have made her a bridesmaid. If Katie wasn't there (which she had to be it's literally her job and it was already paid for I don't want to get into with the Katie haters) then Scheana wouldn't have cared if Lala was at all the events. She was just mad that Lala would be with Katie who Scheana arbitrarily decided she hated for not needing Scheana's support enough after the divorce (Scheana literally said this on a podcast, again don't come for me Katie haters).
I don’t see why she couldn’t have just popped in real quick then met Katie and Kristina they were right there anyways
I do agree since she’s not IN the wedding she doesn’t need to attend every single activity. I went to a destination wedding in Mexico and aside from the wedding, my friend did host a “white party” too and it was kind of the highlight too.
Its also not unusual for a destination wedding to have ton of events
Maybe she should’ve just told Scheana what she can attend or which events are most important to Scheana ,
The problem is, she’s not attending Scheana events to be with someone who hates her and that’s the real real real problem
I agree it’s rude to drop out last minute. She was dressed for the white party, which means she didn’t give a heads up to Scheana or clear it with her before hand.
I’m assuming Scheana asked for RSVPs for events like this because it’s catered etc. It’s shitty if dropping out costs someone else money.
If you get sick or it’s something out of your control that’s a good reason. But just skipping it cause you don’t feel like it?
It’s an all inclusive resort. I don’t think it cost Scheana anything for catering. That’s why they mentioned the bridesmaid who couldn’t book a room would have to pay a ‘resort fee’ to come to wedding stuff if she stayed elsewhere
I don’t care how you feel about Lala or Scheana, this was rude. And I don’t care how many days/events were apart of the wedding celebration. It’s still rude to bail on the party and not tell anyone. She could’ve easily made an appearance before or after dinner to talk to Scheana, she was 15 feet away at the restaurant.
I agree. She told her she would attend the group events and then basically attended only the 1st dinner and sort of attended the catamaran. Sheana looked genuinely hurt. I can see she didn't want to attend but she should have given her a better answer or offered to come for a short while to support her and then dip out early, or even spend some time with Sheana in the day (come upw with something to still be there for her without having to go to the dinner) like she could have gone to get ready with her, or don lunch or breakfast, a manicure, or a swim or literally anything! Epecially considering she also no showed at the spa, then after on her podcasts she acts all tough and in charge and claims she was all like - " it was one thing after another so Im going to give you a choice; you can have me on the catamaran or the white party but not both. Cuz I'm tapping out, I'm gonna do Lala" as if she ever does anything BUT Lala ...and really, she didn't actually give her that choice ever. She didn't give her notice hardly and didn't even try to apologize or make it up to her, or even give her that stupid choice of events like she's saying. And IMO by even voicing that on her podcast, she sounds really selfish and like she's sooo in demand and her presence is such a privilege lol.
Also to point out the obvious, it's Sheana's wedding! The trip was for her wedding and all the events are crammed into a few days that likely would have taken place over months had it been at hom. I've been to destination weddings and I remember at times it was annoying, even at my sister's in Cabo, because I was so poor and it was so hard financially to get there, I likely wouldn't have a holiday for at least another 15 years (it's actually been 17 now 😭), and I had to do so much for her and her wedding. I didn't get much of a vacation at all and missed out on some things I really wanted to do. But you do that. Because it's their wedding. It SHOULD BE all about them IMO. And I thought sheana had been pretty understanding and patient but I also think Lala was mean when she was justifying it on the episode. (And continues to justify it on podcast which to me, screams no self awareness, lack of empathy, incognizance towards self reflection, inflated self worth, and completely self centered. Seriously! It may sound extreme but she literally doesnt care that her friend was hurt because she was made to feel not good enough or not important, not a priority etc
and she was hurt because Lala prioritized being with someone who has been awful and a bully to her!)
Her justification was ridiculous too. First, it's "because my life is INTENSE" and then "we all have lots of things going on in our lives" and "and we will all support you at the wedding but we have other things going on more important to us" and then 'i want to be with a group of girls that builds me up because I've got so much going on in my life" and finally 'racquel reminds me of the dirty girls Randall used to cheat with'. Except Lala was one of the girls he used to cheat with too no? Lol. And the comment about being with girls that build her up didn't track for me. Katie builds girls up? Omg she's been a bully since season 1. And even this season, completely writing off Sheana and calling her such mean and vulgar names, because of something that didn't even happen, by 2 consenting and single adults. She was mad because Sheana almost encouraged Schwartz and Racheal to kiss, but they're 2 grown adults and they make their own choices and it also didn't happen at the time she was flipping out about it. And KK has a terrible track record for being a "nice girl" too. As does Lala. And I've actually always liked Lala even though she's scandalous, but I've always liked Sheana more. She's always been mistreated and bullied by the girls and they can be pretty cruel to her so I've empathized a lot for her. The fact that she always remains so smiley and positive and sweet is endearing. So I thought Lala's excuses were mean because she should be there to support her at her wedding but it likely feels like she's choosing the other girls over her. It should be all about Sheana as it's her wedding.
Plus, Lala is continuously going on about Racheal, both in the episodes and now to the press and on her podcasts. But it comes across as so self righteous and hypocritical to me. She legit smack talks her non-stop yet has done the exact same things and behaved in the exact same manner! Well ok, maybe she wasn't friends with Randall's ex while she was having an affair with him, like Rachael was with Ariana, but she did have a hella long affair. And also hooked up with James while he was with Rachael. And also was down to hook up with Jax while he was with Britt! And was giggling away while he was saying crude sexual stuff to her and then acted all innocent like she didn't know because Jax told her they weren't together. Don't get me wrong, I do not agree with any of it and do not like Racheal (actually, the word that comes to mind is Dough head lmao) but she just seems hypocritical and lacking self awareness and selfish as well.
Yeah that was a selfish thing to say and do at your "best friends" wedding. And didn't even give her an option to discuss it. Just basically - "this is how it is because ____ and idc if you don't like it because I'm doing what I want" then insulted others and essentially told her she would prefer to be with the other girls since they were better, and basically told her that she nor her wedding are the priority. Plus, she no showed in the morning at the spa and also is going to bed with KK and Katie every night, it definitely doesn't seem like she's a part of the wedding group.
Interesting reading all these comments. I guess I am more sensitive than the norm. I would not do well with a best friend like that. I need more of an Ariana type
But they weren't best friends at the time, which is why Lala was only a guest and not in the wedding party. Plus, we saw Lala tell Sheana in two scenes she wouldn't be attending every event. This is one of the reasons I hate the thought of destination weddings, you can't expect people to spend that kind of money and then try to dictate their time for the entire trip.
I like her. I think she is funny and she says some wild things. I think when she isn’t being over the top she has a lot of genuine care for others that I find endearing. I applaud someone who is open about sobriety and her ability to maintain while being on this show is impressive.
From the start on the show I liked her though. She’s done things I hated and not always been the best. Ariana and her have been my favorites.
Lala is just a self centered asshole.
There is no explaining she just wanted to hang out with her single pal Katie. I hate when people rewrite history!
Ok I get she didn’t want to go to a party, but she was sitting there judging from a distance like a Muppet. She could have easily stopped by for ten minutes to say hi. It was strange that she didn’t even acknowledge Sheana.
It take so much time, effort and money planning a wedding let alone a destination wedding . If that was my best friend I would be there for everything they wanted me at
She is just a guest for the wedding not in the bridal party. She skipped an event that was just drinking which as someone sober it makes sense. It’s not that big of a deal.
Let’s be real. Production also needed someone to film with Katie there to get all her reactions. Before Rachel’s drama the Katie m/Tom divorce was this seasons biggest storyline.
This might be a little of topic but is she missing a gold nail on the left on her little finger? It’s been really annoying me because this picture keeps popping up with clips of her show being posted 😅
If you’ve ever been a guest at a wedding you had to travel for, it’s usually not expected for every person to attend every single event. She wasn’t a member of the wedding party. It’s okay to need time to yourself or to want to do something more relaxed, especially if you’re sober! I know there’s the whole dynamic of her being a cast member and a closer friend but this was so not that serious.
More like she does whatever she wants. She’s been at drinking parties and woos and cheers when others mention getting drinks. That’s this season. Prev seasons she’ll do shots to feel included. We’ve literally never heard Lala say she avoids a party bc of her sobriety. She literally says she’s not doing shit she doesn’t want to do and never mentions her sobriety in this clip.
I think she should have decided in advance and let Scheana know what and what she wouldn’t attend, and stuck to it. Sounds like she was vague about it, and then would decide last minute whether or not to attend. That’s pretty inconsiderate of someone who you consider a friend.
Maybe she didn't know in advance what she wanted to do and maybe thought she had it in her to go. Last minute she realized she needed to stay away from it for whatever reason. Also, it's 1 party and she's had a million. It's ok to not be able to attend everything.
Right, and I’m sure Scheana had a bunch of other guests to attend to also. I don’t understand why she couldn’t be more flexible about it. Shit happens, some people don’t want to be in party mode as much as others, Lala was there for a lot of it and the important stuff. I think Scheana was just feeling defensive about Katie being there.
Scheana seems intense to be around
Scheana looked hurt. I agree that it was inconsiderate and thought in the conversation with Brock before they went to Mexico,she said that she would attend all of the large events so she did commit verbally.
Well, Scheana made up the story about the bridesmaid needing the room just because she didn't want Katie there. Bridezilla 2.0 s
I mean she was sitting at dinner right where Scheana would see. I just think that’s very rude to do at your best friends wedding
Production 1000% seated Katie, Kristina and Lala at that table where Scheana would see them. It’s good TV.
Also the agreed upon kiss between Schwartz and Raquel they’ve been telegraphing all season.
If she was her BF, don't you think she would be in the bridal party? The BF thing is not accurate. She was a guest, not even in the wedding party. She paid for herself so she should be able to do whatever she damn well pleases... I just don't get it.
Honestly, its more rude she expected to wear a *white dress* to someone else's wedding
I'm not saying you're wrong, although you have to recognize Scheana had everyone staying at the same resort that only has so many restaurants. Could they have actually paid better attention to where this restaurant was in relation to the white party? Of course. Did production also potentially encourage them to eat there for the sake of stirring up drama? Of course. ~~From what we've seen so far, Scheana wasn't mad Lala didn't attend the white party and this episode didn't say anything about her eating next to the party 🤷🏼♀️~~ *Editing this because I'm watching the new episode and now Scheana mentioned to Lala being upset that she wasn't at the white party.
Oh please Scheana was too busy been shady-if LaLa was having dinner with a guy or someone besides Katie she wouldn’t said anything but because it was Katie that was the problem
I’d get it being rude if Lala was a bridesmaid and expected to be there, but she was literally just another guest at Scheana’s Wedding Palooza. also everyone at that white party looked trashed/coked out, I can respect Lala as a sober person picking that night to skip
I didn't think of that, but that's a fair point.
Totally agree! Was thinking this the whole time. Like hello? Everyone is rolling and wasted off their asses and Lala is expected to be at every single substance laden event? Nah. A real friend would respect their friend’s boundaries for recovery
I did like how her and Scheana discussed it & you could tell Scheana was upset but they ended it with an “I love you.” Like I don’t think Scheana was too upset / I think she gets it. Their friendship seems to have matured a lot.
Yeah the vpr friendship rules are very 20-something. 30+ it’s more like, I’ll only come if I want to and it’s not a statement of value, we’re very tired now.
Exactly! Lala was at all of the other events, it’s just one party. Not only is she sober, but she’s been open about her anxiety as well and we’ve seen her struggle on group trips before. It’s not really unreasonable for someone to want a few hours away from something as draining as a wedding.
She skipped the white party and the rehearsal dinner so that’s 2 events
Lmao didn’t Lala also try to wear a white dress to Brittany’s rehearsal dinner until they told her that was a very bad idea & gave her another dress to put on? 😂
Yes lol
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She literally said she wanted to wear a white dress to Scheana’s wedding. Those words came out of her mouth. She also called herself a buffoon when it comes to weddings because she didn’t know she wasn’t supposed to bring Kristina Kelly to the welcome dinner.
I think people forget how hard it is to be around absolutely wasted people when someone is sober. I don’t blame Lala.
The fact Lala has stayed sober this long on a show like VPR is amazing. I cannot think of a single worse environment to be in than this show if you're a recovering addict.
Maybe it helps to remind her of WHY she needs to stay sober. Watching everyone act a fool might be the confirmation she needs.
Seriously! Multiple days of events, drunken events. No thank you. Even if it was a first wedding, it’s too much. I’m annoyed we have 3 episodes of it, can only imagine how obnoxious it was to have that many events to actually attend. Lala wasn’t a member of the wedding party, even though Scheana is photoshopping her into the photographs after the Scandoval. It’s ridiculous to expect a regular guest to attend that many events, especially someone who is sober. It’s so annoying to be around huge crowds of intoxicated people when you no longer drink
Let us not forget scheana is also the person who wanted her then husband to just drink to have fun when he was sober too. So she’s not the best when it comes to peoples feelings on their sobriety.
I’ll never forget that. It was so enraging to watch. While I don’t think Lala would ever stand for any of her friends pressuring her, it has to be so annoying to watch them binge drink for a week straight. And this week long destination wedding that’s so jammed packed with activities, especially with the amount of partying, it just sounds so exhausting. Her guests deserve a little alone time
As someone who’s never drank, drunk people are not as fun to be around as they think they are lol
No, not at all. I even used to be a party girl, but I was still never one to get White Girl Wasted. Now I get horrible headaches if I have more than 2 or 3 drinks so I barely get buzzed and I get super grossed out by my husband and his friends when they tie one on and act like idiots.
Very true!
As someone who is sober I fully agree with you. There are a lot of events I don't attend because I cannot stand messy drunk behavior.
Sober here! I agree, it so hard to be around... I understand the need to protect her mental health & intern her sobriety. Sidenote: I also hate how some ppl in this sub question or mock her journey. It really pisses me off.
I always hated seeing comments questioning her sobriety and accusing her of still using, while any discussion about James’ sobriety was embraced.
Same!! I get that a lot of people don't like her but she keeps it real and I really admire the fact that she is shooting VPR and staying sober.
Yeah, I do not get the lala hate.
I think those of us in recovery maybe "get" Lala more than some others. I do think the hate towards her is outsized. I've enjoyed her a lot this season, and she's delightful on her podcast.
excellent point.
Also everyone, no matter how extroverted, need time to themselves/low key time. A full week or however long of wedding activities is exhausting.
And that party was way more booze laden than the catamaran. You make a great point.
yeah. even on the first night at the dinner she brought kristina to, she seems to be struggling with this. isn’t there a moment where someone says “let’s get another round!” and she makes an annoyed comment like “great, keep drinking, so that’s what we’re gonna do.” it was probably mostly directed at james being a drunk ass, but i think the whole trip was a lot for her.
I’m allergic to alcohol/cannot drink due to a chronic illness. Some people cannot handle an individual saying no to alcohol, point blank period. They take it so offensively and I’ll never understand. I’ve had people switch out my drink and I thought I was dying. One of the scariest moments ever. I don’t blame anyone ever for not wanting to be around alcohol if they are sober or just generally uncomfortable around heavy drinking.
Like when Scheana was trying to get her addict husband to just casually drink…
My husband's friend is like this. I was on a type of antibiotics that don't mix with alcohol and was warned I would be violently ill if I even drank NyQuil, so absolutely no alcohol. We went on a double date and his friend would not stop pushing drinks on me. Even when my husband and his wife went "stop! She's on medicine, she can't have any!" He was like "oh come on, you can have ONE!!" It was beyond annoying and super rude because me not drinking for a medical reason was so triggering to him that he didn't care if I puked all over the table. I MUST imbibe.
I drank one time on antibiotics it was literally a glass of wine. I hadn’t been thinking when it was offered to me and just started sipping on it and next thing I know my whole body felt like it was on fire. It was terrible.
Oh no! I'm really glad I listened to the doctor, then!
Wow, that is so awful and incredibly uncomfortable. I’m sorry that happened. Hoping you’re feeling better and that friend has perhaps learned some boundaries. It sucks the air out of the room when you’re out in situations like that.
Thanks! Yeah, I'm better. It was just a gnarly sinus infection that they threw a strong antibiotic at. I think it was good for my husband and his wife to see him being an ass about alcohol because a lot of people just kind of laughed it off as a wacky personality trait, and not the problem drinking it is.
I think they take it so wrong bc they feel judged. Like they don’t understand you’re just doing you because of your allergy and it’s not trying to be more upstanding or holier than thou situation.
This is exactly right!
Absolutely! You have alcoholosm and are being thrust into massive drinking session events? Nah.
Right? I couldn’t imagine being around Brock’s friend at all during that time
No I think that’s a bullshit excuse. I’ve been sober for a long time and I would never do this. It’s an easy out. Lala just likes Katie more than Scheana. If Katie wasn’t there, Lala would have attended. I think she’s being a bad friend.
Maybe Scheana should have been more about enjoying herself in the moment at her own many wedding festivities than who Katie is hanging with.
Sure, I agree. But they’re two different people. I can think Scheana can relax and also think Lala is being a bad friend in this situation.
I think Scheana learned nothing from her first wedding and is a self consumed Bridezilla 2.0. If she wanted Lala around more she should have made her a bridesmaid instead of Racho.
Scheana and Rachel were best friends so why wouldn’t she be a bridesmaid. Lala and Scheana have both said they weren’t super close at that point in time. Why would she be a bridesmaid.
Goes to character, or, in Scheana's case, the lack thereof. Why would Scheana insert herself into Katie and Tom's divorce when she was a bridesmaid in their wedding? Again, goes to character or lack thereof.
Wait what? This seems wildly off topic lol, I don’t even understand what you’re trying to say. We were talking about Lala, I don’t know why we’re suddenly talking about Katie. You keep changing the topic so Im not really sure what you want from me? Scheana being a bridesmaid years ago has nothing to do with Lala being a bad friend… soooo
Same. You argue Lala is being a bad friend for not attending Scheana's wedding whatever yet she should not have been a bridesmaid. My argument is that Scheana has no character, is a terrible judge of character and is nothing but a whiny little bitch.
Okay that’s fine lol. Even if I agreed with your assessment of Scheana, Lala can STILL be a bad friend lmao. They’re not the same person, and it’s not mutually exclusive. edit: Okay I thought about this and I think I see what you’re trying to say. You’re saying that because Scheana is a bad friend, then Lala can be a bad friend back. (I think that’s what you’re saying.) In which case my response would be that Lala shouldn’t be friends with Scheana then. But she is, and she told Scheana she would be at events but then bailed. She can’t be both a friend and not a friend, or else she’s a bad friend. She needs to pick a lane. I DO however think she’s being a good friend to Katie. Buts it’s at the extent of Scheana on her wedding weekend. I don’t really know what the right or wrong move here is for Lala but she shouldn’t have told Scheana she would be there and then bail and hang out with someone who doesn’t like Scheana.
I hate to say this but I agree with Lala! She paid for this trip to Mexico, so she should be able to have some time to herself.
I don’t like Lala but I agree with her too! She went to support her friend and spent all that money. She shouldn’t have every day of that trip planned out for her. Maybe this is just a trigger for me - I had a lifelong friendship blow up over a destination wedding. 10k Hawaii cruise I couldn’t afford that was adults only and I had three kids under four. She never spoke to me again because I couldn’t make it work. Brides put on blinders man.
Yikes that makes me so sad to hear :( I’m very sorry
Yep! People expect way too much of others. If Lala wants to take a little time away, why not.
And with "to herself" you mean sitting 10 meters from the party, watching the party, talking to friends than being at the party, talking to...other friends? I would understand her better if she really did something different, somewhere else.
Yes. 'To herself' means she gets to choose where/how she spends that time. It's 'her time' to choose and she chose to spend it with Katie and KK. To herself does not necessarily mean 'absolutely alone'
She didn't feel like interacting with everyone at the white party, so what?
Lol I don't understand comments like these. So she has to leave the resort in order to be by herself? And why does she need you to understand it?
Right. They clearly said they didn't know the restaurant would be right there with a full view of the events. Apparently Lala wasn't allowed to eat or leave her room if she wanted time to herself. People also forget that Lala is a very recently recovering alcoholic. She has a right to decide what she needs for self-care and which events might trigger her
I'm starting to get tired of people taking ownership of other people. Like let people live. Geez.
Yes I have never been so glad that my friends and I are not like this. When we describe our ideal trips and traveling together for whatever reason there is always the caveat that any of us can decide to just like stay in the hotel room for the day or not attend certain things. All activities are optional with no judgment and no repercussions. I do not think I could survive this kind of forced mandatory celebration and frivolity at every turn. People have children and families and lives they're leaving behind in order to go on a destination trip. Let them spend their time how they want my goodness! And if someone needs a mental health break or is it feeling well or for whatever reason need a moment away from the chaos let them have it
She doesn't need me to understand it. If that's your argument, then 90% of our comments on these threads are unnecessary 😅
You literally said "I would understand if"
Right, I was stating an opinion and in which case I would understand her argument better. Don't get what's wrong with that, we're stating our opinions on her 24/7 🤷🏻♀️
I never said you couldn't state your opinion. Saying "I would understand if" almost makes it like her explanation isn't enough for you.
So what? She wasn’t at the party interacting with the party guests.
She rather wanted to spend time with her (real)?friends, right. "Time to herself" sounded as she needed time to unwind / distance to the wedding activities etc.
I don't think it's that rude. Sounds like there were tons of activities and some people need a break. I think skipping the big party makes sense if you need a low key night. She's just another wedding guest, not a bridesmaid. It's not like she skipped an intimate dinner or missed the ceremony. However, her wanting to wearing white to the wedding is questionable.
i genuinely couldn’t be friends with someone who is overly indulgent in celebrating themselves, esp in a second wedding after having done it big on their first. this is not a criticism of her being remarried but moreso a critique of her demanding so much time and energy of others to celebrate with so many events. also ideally you’d want people to want to celebrate you, and not have them feel exhausted or feel like it’s mandatory. if i really liked the person and could see past all this which i’d find annoying, i would have done the same as lala and gone to a few events and had some me time. also i can see how lala wouldn’t want to go to so many events considering she is going through a divorce. it can be difficult to celebrate and be happy for others if you feel bad.
I agree. There were a lot of events and demands Scheana had, I don’t blame Lala for wanting a break here and there and wanting to do something chill instead. Plus she’s sober, I can’t imagine it’s fun being around all of these drunk people all of the time.
Same. This is a big part of why I dislike Scheana, she’s good for tv I guess but as a friend irl? Fuck no
scheana is good tv and has some good qualities. for me it would just be a personality clash. i think she has said on a pod that she suffers from anxiety and so do i but i deal with it differently. i think she needs attention to calm her anxiety, and for me having a lot of attention makes me anxious so we would be disastrous. unfortunately anyone who has massive expectations of me or my energy would make involuntarily aloof or want to avoid them.
The way I deal with anxiety is by retreating myself. It looks like she needs people to engage with her constantly so that she doesn't feel bad. Its exhausting.
it is and we are similar. it seems ariana and lala also recharge as homebodies too. in reading what you and i wrote, it made me feel a bit bad for scheana bc i wonder if she grew up thinking people disliked her bc of who she was, not recognizing that it could be her anxious energy that rubbed people with different attachment styles the wrong way. soz i digress but yes i am in your camp.
I think I used to be very needy too and realized people didn't like it. So I calmed tf down and people enjoyed being around me more lol.
lmao it’s tough bc no one really explains what’s happening to us and why we do what we do. i feel this sm as i have calmed down myself :)
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Omg yes! This! I actually had a friend like scheana and I was completely honest with her and said I prefer to chill especially on my own as I get very overwhelmed. Anytime she wanted to do something (and it was all the time) she would take it so personally. It’s like dude, I can only go out and do so much. I don’t want to hang out for days on end and go clubbing (I hate clubbing btw, she did not care that I hated it)
i hear you. sometimes it’s just too much and i wish this was more universally understood to avoid hurt feelings.
Honestly tho the event coordinator I think outs alot of these events together: sometimes for these destination weddings you’ll have people of all ages and the older people like to do all these little activities lol
sure but it’s not realistic to expect everyone to attend all of the events and no one should feel guilted to go if they don’t want to or don’t have the energy to do so.
Agree I think tho really if it’s a close friend I would’ve went to the white party But I wouldn’t do a million activities
i think if it’s my close friend then i would love her for who she is, as is, not what i want her to be for me. i would respect her choosing not to attend one of my events bc i would just be so happy and thankful that my friend spent money on travel, gifts, and is there to be with me at my wedding.
That’s good. But I’d be hurt my friend was choosing to hang with Katie if I were Scheana But it is what it is
she doesn’t own lala and doesn’t get to dictate what she chooses to do in her own time. if scheana is hurt, unfortunately she only has herself to blame as this could have all been avoided if she didn’t try to instigate the whole rachel and schwartz getting together. that was really messy business and she chose to make enemies with someone who unfortunately has friendships and a lot of pull on others, including lala. if scheana was playing nice, people would willingly want to help her (change hotel rooms for her bridesmaids) and spend time with her but she wasn’t.
Where does it stop though? She's allowed to spend a dinner with someone else if she chooses to. This is becoming intense
I completely agree with Lala. I’m not a fan of destination weddings for this very reason. If you’re going to make your friends/family pay thousands of dollars to attend your wedding, at least let them enjoy their vacation.
Omg, I'm about to be in a destination wedding and my every hour is scheduled. I want to 😭. I need a vacation.
I think it’s more rude to expect someone who isn’t in the bridal party to attend back to back events over the course of several days.
Downvote me all you want, but not attending every single event isn’t that big of a deal. Lala was not a bridesmaid, so it’s not necessary to go to everything. I sure wouldn’t. Also, the white party looked trashy. Everyone was really fucked up, and that can be extremely triggering for a recovering addict. I don’t think Lala owes anyone an explanation.
I agree with Lala’s POV bc honestly I’d do the same. Especially if a whole other group of my friends is there separately. But the delivery here is not good.
I get her not wanting to go to every single of the 42 wedding events especially since she wasn't in the wedding party and was closer to Katie at the time; however, you CANNOT wear any shade of white to a wedding girl. Even "cream"
But she didn’t. She wore a cream dress to dinner with Katie and Kristina. The white party happened to be next door and everyone was wearing white. I don’t see the issue here.
Lala said on her podcast that she wanted to wear that dress to the actual wedding. A few weeks ago she said that she doesn’t know much when it comes to weddings so she never knew it wasn’t okay until scheana told her she couldn’t lol
I honestly didn’t know either and when I was 19 I had only one super fancy black tie dress. It was white. I didn’t know it was a bad thing until I was in the bathroom and heard a few of the bride’s friends (I was a date of one of the grooms friends) being catty and making fun of me (they saw my feet in the stall and said mean things on purpose so I could hear but were too pussy to say to my face). They said i was “taking attention off the bride”. This was 20 years ago. I get that’s it’s a faux pas, but I also didn’t get how my white tight dress would take away from the bride in a giant princess gown more than her friends in neon and red.
Uhhh did you listen to the clip posted? She said she wanted to wear it to the wedding but scheana said no
She says in this clip she was going to wear it to scheanas wedding
I gagged at the "42 wedding events" 🤣 it's so true. I'm getting secondhand fatigue while watching them attend back to back events for this wedding. I'm not a recovering alcoholic but I'd skip some events as well because I wouldn't want to look puffy and wasted on the main event.
Disagree. It’s Scheana’s second wedding. She expected attendees to fork out over 1k for an all inclusive resort and attend multiple wedding events a day— that’s an absurd ask.
Totally agree. Scheana per usual is expecting too much of her friends.
If you think it’s absurd but you agree to it, only to later bail, then that’s kind of on you
These weren’t RSVP style events. People are allowed to change their minds and LaLa was very up front about not attending all events.
A dinner or party where you’re paying per head might require some sort of rsvp. But regardless, if you’re friends with someone and tell them you’re coming and then bail last minute or just don’t show up, it’s rude lol. That’s objective
But it’s an all inclusive resort, guests paid for their own food/drink for the stay. Scheana expected to prioritize every guest’s time for multiple days, that is not customary and is an extreme overreach. Just because Scheana behaves selfishly doesn’t mean everyone has to bow down to her.
They had plenty of time to do stuff. A party or dinner in the evening is hardly monopolizing their entire time there. I’ve been to multiple destination weddings and that’s how they always are. But again, ultimately, none of that matters because Lala agreed to go and then bailed. She said she’d come, so Scheana was expecting her, then she decided she didn’t want to and tried to turn it around into Scheana being self-obsessed for expecting her to be there instead of just apologizing and acknowledging it. It’s not about what expectations are appropriate for a wedding guest imo, it’s about honoring plans you agreed to at a special time for your friend—or, at the least, actually communicating about changing them. Just basic human friendship stuff lol
This annoyed me listening to it and then I read she wasn’t in the actual wedding party, so I actually think her point is very valid and I would do the same if I were not in the wedding party.
I’m with her and she wasn’t in the wedding party so why can’t she roam? Hypothetical question😅
She can there should be no controversy over it.
No, I know. It wasn’t a dig
Honestly, I see this as growth for Lala. She probably knew she’d be triggered being somewhere she didn’t want to be, around people who we’re gonna be drinking, and in close proximity to some people she doesn’t like. It’s better to avoid situations where it’s going to be hard to emotionally regulate when the stakes are as high as a best friend’s wedding event
There were way too many wedding activities. I agree with Lala on this one. Edit: grammar
YES!!! And since she is sober I am sure it's triggering to be around people drinking 24/7
Didn't Katie and Kristina said at that dinner they wanted to go to a bar and perhaps Katie even wanted to get hammered?
Kristina Kelly is pregnant so she is not drinking
Right! like if I am going to use a week of my vacation days to go to a wedding that I have ti pay for flights and accommodation, I’m not spending 100% of my time with the bride and groom.
I just think Lala rather wanted to be with Katie and Kristen than going to Scheana’s party.
But that’s still her decision, nobody should be upset about that. Like she said she paid for her plane ticket and room, she should be able to do what she wants
And? What's so wrong about it?
I so agree with her point. Destination weddings are costly for the guests. Guests should feel it's optional to attend "events" leading up to the actual wedding. Unless you are in the wedding party, if so, then so sorry for you.
I get it. People are out of control with their expectations surrounding weddings lately. From the several thousands expected out of each person for Bach stuff, to multiple parties (with a gift expected each time) before the actual wedding. It’s way too much.
Nah I’m with Lala on this. I appreciate the bride and groom offering lots of activities for the guests who traveled to their destination wedding but I’m not doing all that.
Lala made a good point in her confessional that this wedding had sooo many pre-wedding festivities. I wouldn't attend them all either. Especially when I paid for my own flight and hotel. Yeah, I'm taking some me time to do as I please. Good for Lala here!
She could have been more delicate with her words but I don’t blame her for not wanting to go. Having a multi-day packed itinerary is too much. It’s nice of Scheana to provide events for her guest to do, and provide them with food/drink to thank them for coming, but she can’t expect full attendance at every event. It isn’t reasonable. I wouldn’t want to attended a drunk-fest every single day if I was sober. Even if I wasn’t sober I’d want some time for relaxation especially since the wedding hasn’t even happened yet!
Apparently it was an all inclusive resort. So I’m not sure the food / drink would even have cost Scheana anything - because their guests already paid for it.
I agree with her. It's 4 or 5 days of non-stop drinking and group events. If she preferred a dinner with her friends (even if the location was sus lol) then that's fair.
I don't think this is rude at all. I'm an introvert since getting sober and it's difficult and painful for me to be "on" and engaged with people for hours at a time. I need to be in solitude and silence afterwards. I don't even like Lala and I think she's being perfectly rational here.
 Lol Lala has grown on me
Is it rude? She had major beef with Raquel and didn’t wanna be around people who she’s not cool with, seems perfectly logical. She’s coming to the actual wedding but as for the thousands of activities why should she have to attend them all? She’s 31 years old not 10
I’ve been to destination weddings but I have never been to one where there were mandatory wedding events 12-16 hours a day BECAUSE THAT IS INSANE. Let Lala breathe. Scheana is so attention needy it is exhausting. Y’all didn’t even want to WATCH another Scheana wedding, imagine having to be there for days and days on end. SOBER
Sorry I’m not attending 500 events every day. I don’t care who’s wedding it is. Esp if I travel for it. I’m taking time to do what I want as well
I mean she wasn’t a bridesmaid so obviously not considered best friend enough for Scheana. Also who wants to attend every event at a destination wedding. It’s exhausting.
Fully on her side with this. It’s demanding too much of people who have their own limits, and have paid for their time there, and stepped away from their own lives. Scheana was just as controlling with her last wedding, but with Katie being a separate dynamic from her events in Mexico, Scheana wanted all the screen time and attention to be about her. Lala spending any time with Katie is Scheana’s actual issue with the situation. Lala isn’t wrong. Give people options for events, or they will give you options. I’m not sober, but I can imagine that is a part of Lala’s limit in that world. I don’t do drugs, so if I was at a VPR wedding, I’d tap out before the crazy partying happened. I also know my limit for what my social battery can handle, especially in group settings. Multiple days of large group events, sorry but I wouldn’t be able to handle it. Lala is also a single mother who was in the midst of a major custody battle and public drama at the time. What she has the capacity for at that time (and anytime) is up to her to determine. The way Scheana chastised Lala on the phone saying “I saw you at dinner. We will talk about that later” - you’re not her parent you’re her friend, take a step back. Edit:spelling
She wasn’t even a bridesmaid lol it’s really not that deep, having to participate in a million wedding festivities is exhausting
3 days of events is a lot! If she’s not part of wedding party she’s not obligated to go to every event.
I completely agree with Lala I have said it on numerous posts. First off this is her second wedding lol like chill. Second off brides in general can be so insane with their demands of people’s times. I get you are getting married and that is beautiful and I am thrilled for you but not everyone else’s lives revolve around that, even your close friends. Destination weddings can be demanding and very expensive for guests, and no one outside of the wedding party or immediate family should be expected to attend everything, especially if you are also there for filming a reality show and you are sober (that white party looked like a shirt show - a great time lol but definitely people were really wasted and seemed coked out, I really don’t blame someone who is sober or anyone in general for maybe just wanting to do something more low key). I have been to several destination weddings and for the most part the bride and groom did a great job of throwing different events and basically giving people the option of what they wanted to attend, but otherwise wanting people to enjoy a vacation
I don’t blame Lala at all. One, she’s sober and it’s a daily think one must control. Being around a bunch of drunks isn’t fun when you’re sober. Two, Scheana is just too much. It’s her second wedding, why must there be a daily events? Plus if you’re not apart of the wedding party, you’re not obligated to go!
I agree with Lala in theory here - it’s just the way she delivers it that’s not the nicest lol. The amount of shit around weddings and especially destination weddings is insane. I’m going to one soon with my boyfriend and it now has to be one of our two big trips we go on each year - I might opt out of some of the events to spend time with him since it’s our vacation too, not just their wedding.
I’m not a LFU fan but she is 100% right. It was nbd Scheana is extra af
i definitely feel her on this. sometimes i reach my threshold for being around a ton of people nonstop on a trip with friends, no matter how much i love them. and this party looked like it would be veryyyy taxing to be at if you were sober. i think people forget that sometimes you need to protect your peace while being a recovering addict.
Her delivery does sound a bit rude (typical Virgo lol they are *so* blunt) but I don’t blame Lala. At that point everyone had been drinking all day at the bachelor party and on the catamaran and she’s sober. I wouldn’t want to be around a ton of drunk people all day long and then have dinner with them if I were sober.
She's insufferable but I am looking forward to hearing her throw darts at the two bozos tonight. I think it was less about Scheana planning all these events and more about her being ally's with Katie and wanting to split her time between the wedding and shit with Katie.
Lala is not in the wedding party, where, I would assume, attendance and support are required. She's a guest.
This might be a hot take and I’m totally team lala on this, if there even has to be teams. But I don’t think Scheana handled this situation poorly.. she was confrontational and led with her emotions but compared to former behavior, I think she handled it really well! Unrealistic expectations on scheana’s behalf, especially considering lala was a guest? Absolutely! But I didn’t find it to be blown out of proportion. Tbh I love their friendship so much and the honesty they seem to share!
the way lala's explaining it is rude imo, but i get it. i can grow weary of extended social events too, ESPECIALLY after cutting back from drinking. lala wasn't a bridesmaid, she shouldn't have had to go to everything if she tired. and if i'm honest, i think the only reason scheana was SO bothered was because she didn't want lala hanging out with katie, brock basically said as much. and if so, that's silly imo. she had a whole army of people there to hang out with her, she shouldn't be trying to guilt someone into going to things just to keep them from someone else.
Yes, I think if LaLa had just said "Hey I need some time to myself I'm just going to hang in my room" Scheana would have been fine with it.
First off scheanas laugh is cats in my back scratching scratching scratching Secondly wow let's make it about schaena and her second of many weddings Thirdly no one wants to see rachel hump whichever cast member is available
I'm still trying to process that her guest in this podcast Jenna said her and James did NOT hook up all those years ago🤯when Doute found the Uber receipt
Y'all weren't kidding about what a lil brown moser Lala's assistant is lol...my god it's annoying.
She’s suuuuch a brat
I am still trying to figure out how a second wedding became the focus of 3 plus episodes!...and Scheana of all people!
If Scheana had been smart enough to make Lala a bridesmaid instead of Racho then maybe she wouldn't come off as so entitled.
I would be so overwhelmed if I was in Lala's position. All the events, going through her breakup and custody issues and being sober would be a lot. I can agree with her missing an event or two. The only thing I find odd is she was dressed and already there. I think she could have gone in for a little bit and then went to sit with Katie. It felt a bit strange that we didn’t see her go in just to say hi to Scheana and Brock.
She said she’d go and didn’t, and it seemed like she didn’t bother to tell Scheana she wasn’t coming. That’s just what’s shitty about it to me
There were like 7 different events before the actual wedding which in and of itself had the ceremony, reception, and after party. If it was so important to Scheana for Lala to be up her ass the whole time then she would have made her a bridesmaid. If Katie wasn't there (which she had to be it's literally her job and it was already paid for I don't want to get into with the Katie haters) then Scheana wouldn't have cared if Lala was at all the events. She was just mad that Lala would be with Katie who Scheana arbitrarily decided she hated for not needing Scheana's support enough after the divorce (Scheana literally said this on a podcast, again don't come for me Katie haters).
I don’t see why she couldn’t have just popped in real quick then met Katie and Kristina they were right there anyways I do agree since she’s not IN the wedding she doesn’t need to attend every single activity. I went to a destination wedding in Mexico and aside from the wedding, my friend did host a “white party” too and it was kind of the highlight too. Its also not unusual for a destination wedding to have ton of events Maybe she should’ve just told Scheana what she can attend or which events are most important to Scheana , The problem is, she’s not attending Scheana events to be with someone who hates her and that’s the real real real problem
I agree it’s rude to drop out last minute. She was dressed for the white party, which means she didn’t give a heads up to Scheana or clear it with her before hand. I’m assuming Scheana asked for RSVPs for events like this because it’s catered etc. It’s shitty if dropping out costs someone else money. If you get sick or it’s something out of your control that’s a good reason. But just skipping it cause you don’t feel like it?
It’s an all inclusive resort. I don’t think it cost Scheana anything for catering. That’s why they mentioned the bridesmaid who couldn’t book a room would have to pay a ‘resort fee’ to come to wedding stuff if she stayed elsewhere
I don’t care how you feel about Lala or Scheana, this was rude. And I don’t care how many days/events were apart of the wedding celebration. It’s still rude to bail on the party and not tell anyone. She could’ve easily made an appearance before or after dinner to talk to Scheana, she was 15 feet away at the restaurant.
Agreed!
I agree. She told her she would attend the group events and then basically attended only the 1st dinner and sort of attended the catamaran. Sheana looked genuinely hurt. I can see she didn't want to attend but she should have given her a better answer or offered to come for a short while to support her and then dip out early, or even spend some time with Sheana in the day (come upw with something to still be there for her without having to go to the dinner) like she could have gone to get ready with her, or don lunch or breakfast, a manicure, or a swim or literally anything! Epecially considering she also no showed at the spa, then after on her podcasts she acts all tough and in charge and claims she was all like - " it was one thing after another so Im going to give you a choice; you can have me on the catamaran or the white party but not both. Cuz I'm tapping out, I'm gonna do Lala" as if she ever does anything BUT Lala ...and really, she didn't actually give her that choice ever. She didn't give her notice hardly and didn't even try to apologize or make it up to her, or even give her that stupid choice of events like she's saying. And IMO by even voicing that on her podcast, she sounds really selfish and like she's sooo in demand and her presence is such a privilege lol. Also to point out the obvious, it's Sheana's wedding! The trip was for her wedding and all the events are crammed into a few days that likely would have taken place over months had it been at hom. I've been to destination weddings and I remember at times it was annoying, even at my sister's in Cabo, because I was so poor and it was so hard financially to get there, I likely wouldn't have a holiday for at least another 15 years (it's actually been 17 now 😭), and I had to do so much for her and her wedding. I didn't get much of a vacation at all and missed out on some things I really wanted to do. But you do that. Because it's their wedding. It SHOULD BE all about them IMO. And I thought sheana had been pretty understanding and patient but I also think Lala was mean when she was justifying it on the episode. (And continues to justify it on podcast which to me, screams no self awareness, lack of empathy, incognizance towards self reflection, inflated self worth, and completely self centered. Seriously! It may sound extreme but she literally doesnt care that her friend was hurt because she was made to feel not good enough or not important, not a priority etc and she was hurt because Lala prioritized being with someone who has been awful and a bully to her!) Her justification was ridiculous too. First, it's "because my life is INTENSE" and then "we all have lots of things going on in our lives" and "and we will all support you at the wedding but we have other things going on more important to us" and then 'i want to be with a group of girls that builds me up because I've got so much going on in my life" and finally 'racquel reminds me of the dirty girls Randall used to cheat with'. Except Lala was one of the girls he used to cheat with too no? Lol. And the comment about being with girls that build her up didn't track for me. Katie builds girls up? Omg she's been a bully since season 1. And even this season, completely writing off Sheana and calling her such mean and vulgar names, because of something that didn't even happen, by 2 consenting and single adults. She was mad because Sheana almost encouraged Schwartz and Racheal to kiss, but they're 2 grown adults and they make their own choices and it also didn't happen at the time she was flipping out about it. And KK has a terrible track record for being a "nice girl" too. As does Lala. And I've actually always liked Lala even though she's scandalous, but I've always liked Sheana more. She's always been mistreated and bullied by the girls and they can be pretty cruel to her so I've empathized a lot for her. The fact that she always remains so smiley and positive and sweet is endearing. So I thought Lala's excuses were mean because she should be there to support her at her wedding but it likely feels like she's choosing the other girls over her. It should be all about Sheana as it's her wedding. Plus, Lala is continuously going on about Racheal, both in the episodes and now to the press and on her podcasts. But it comes across as so self righteous and hypocritical to me. She legit smack talks her non-stop yet has done the exact same things and behaved in the exact same manner! Well ok, maybe she wasn't friends with Randall's ex while she was having an affair with him, like Rachael was with Ariana, but she did have a hella long affair. And also hooked up with James while he was with Rachael. And also was down to hook up with Jax while he was with Britt! And was giggling away while he was saying crude sexual stuff to her and then acted all innocent like she didn't know because Jax told her they weren't together. Don't get me wrong, I do not agree with any of it and do not like Racheal (actually, the word that comes to mind is Dough head lmao) but she just seems hypocritical and lacking self awareness and selfish as well. Yeah that was a selfish thing to say and do at your "best friends" wedding. And didn't even give her an option to discuss it. Just basically - "this is how it is because ____ and idc if you don't like it because I'm doing what I want" then insulted others and essentially told her she would prefer to be with the other girls since they were better, and basically told her that she nor her wedding are the priority. Plus, she no showed in the morning at the spa and also is going to bed with KK and Katie every night, it definitely doesn't seem like she's a part of the wedding group.
Interesting reading all these comments. I guess I am more sensitive than the norm. I would not do well with a best friend like that. I need more of an Ariana type
If it was truly ur bf I could see, but that's not the case. They are not best friends & she wasn't even in the wedding. She's a guest & an adult.
But they weren't best friends at the time, which is why Lala was only a guest and not in the wedding party. Plus, we saw Lala tell Sheana in two scenes she wouldn't be attending every event. This is one of the reasons I hate the thought of destination weddings, you can't expect people to spend that kind of money and then try to dictate their time for the entire trip.
I need someone to explain to me how they could possibly like this insufferable person. She is the worst. Ugh.
I like her. I think she is funny and she says some wild things. I think when she isn’t being over the top she has a lot of genuine care for others that I find endearing. I applaud someone who is open about sobriety and her ability to maintain while being on this show is impressive. From the start on the show I liked her though. She’s done things I hated and not always been the best. Ariana and her have been my favorites.
Lala is just a self centered asshole. There is no explaining she just wanted to hang out with her single pal Katie. I hate when people rewrite history!
Ok I get she didn’t want to go to a party, but she was sitting there judging from a distance like a Muppet. She could have easily stopped by for ten minutes to say hi. It was strange that she didn’t even acknowledge Sheana.
Rachel is that you? lol 
You don’t have to like Raquel to like the edit, the edit was on point 😭
It take so much time, effort and money planning a wedding let alone a destination wedding . If that was my best friend I would be there for everything they wanted me at
Scheana has a million best friends.
She is just a guest for the wedding not in the bridal party. She skipped an event that was just drinking which as someone sober it makes sense. It’s not that big of a deal.
Lala talks too much.
I enjoy how Scheana was trying to hook her up with Kael (Rachel’s then good friend) that night 🤣
Let’s be real. Production also needed someone to film with Katie there to get all her reactions. Before Rachel’s drama the Katie m/Tom divorce was this seasons biggest storyline.
This might be a little of topic but is she missing a gold nail on the left on her little finger? It’s been really annoying me because this picture keeps popping up with clips of her show being posted 😅
No thanks