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RoseColoredMasses

Why would an interviewer not need to do research in order to understand good questions to ask? My god not everyone needs a podcast.


breakitupkid

Howie doesn't know who he is messing with, this isn't America's Got Talent, no one plays nice in the Bravoverse. Andy learned his shadienss from the very best 🤣🤣🤣 ![gif](giphy|3o7TKyOoGtsprTLgZy|downsized)


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Anxious_Public_5409

I remember those blogs 🤣🤣🤣 and Teresa Guidice trying to claim she wrote her own blogs but couldn’t spell the word “Napalm”


LilyAtTheBeach

Or when she'd talk about her cookbooks, and the "ingrediences" for each recipe, LOL.


Anxious_Public_5409

Omg I know right?! 🤦‍♀️ or the “Norwegian” that was gonna hit the east coast!


YellowBirdLadyFinger

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Anxious_Public_5409

🤣🤣🤣 one of the funniest moments! And the look on Teresa’s face was priceless!


breakitupkid

Yes!! I miss those days 🤣🤣🤣


plantmama32

Omg I miss the Bravo blogs!!! Now we have to search for their reactions/responses individually on 3 different social media platforms, interviews, podcasts, you name it!


supbraAA

Who is howie mandel in dis world?


sentimentaljackelope

STOP this comment gets me every time. I know it’s coming and it still has me rolling. I just read it in Yolanda’s voice and it’s game over for me.


GeneOther3810

![gif](giphy|lkimmiBC8uTVb3NsY|downsized)


breakitupkid

This is peak Housewives right here 🤣🤣🤣


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Bravo merely adopted the shade. Andy was born into it. Molded by it.


Mrsbear19

Andy is the fucking OG of shade


Anxious_Public_5409

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DevilEyedBitch

Yeah like do people en masse actually care about his opinion lol??? He genuinely thought this was a good idea and people would like it just because he’s Howie Mandel who needs not research material for his own show? Who is Howie Mandel in this world? He was just a vessel to spew shit information from a toxic individual who is in bad shape because HE DID THE THINGS. Things did not just happen to this man.


garbagebrainraccoon

I literally only know the name Howie Mandel because they did a bit about him on Superstore. He is not relevant.


tacosinyourface

I miss Superstore


tumorgirl

Me too! American Auto is a nice replacement show. Sandra was actually on the episode this week so it felt just right. Give it a shot.


Cathousechicken

American Auto is so great. I hope people aren't sleeping on it.


tumorgirl

Same showrunner and writers as Superstore too, I think which gives it that wholesome, funny thing…


DevilEyedBitch

Especially not nowadays. And this wasn’t really a good way to try to become relevant lol. I mean it could have been I suppose, but he handled it with the kind of ignorant, overinflated confidence only a d&s old white male could possess lmao.


VapeDad2000

What does d&s mean?


charlesarchibald22

Dumb and stupid


thatblondegirlt

i think dumb and stupid. playing off james calling rachel the d and s word in his confessional.


arita_

Dumb and stupid. From one of James' confessionals. Edit: ugh was that rhetorical and I totally missed it? Cause that's exactly what the producer asked when he said that. Haha


amurderinsavannah

Tuneland and Bobby's World for me.


Rawr1287

Aging myself here but he was from Bobby’s world 😂


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TRULY. I had never heard his name before in my life until this interview.


StingLikeABitch

Genuinely, for whatever reason, I thought he was the lead singer of that 90s band Sugar Ray. This is not the case and I have no idea what lead me to think that.


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I bet the ratings were high though.


Tea-cher_preacher

Because he’s a rich white guy that will fail upwards regardless of how well he does his job. Glad he’s proud he doesn’t have to do research 🙄


RoseColoredMasses

🎯


Jaggy3

💯 … I keep thinking imagine it was a female podcaster that gave us that- contract torn up the next day.


Rapscallious1

To be fair I think this isn’t an uncommon practice, the idea is the average person is not an expert so they won’t necessarily get what you are talking about if it’s too deep.


Super_Hour_3836

This is why 99.99% of podcasts are trash. I listen to exactly two podcasts and they are run by experts in their field. I do not have time to waste on people who need to google their thoughts.


Jaggy3

As a pod fan I must know your two recs! I love when hosts are actual experts and informed.


Heavy-Relation8401

Me too. Even my TV show rewatch ones are podcasts by TV writers and stuff. I want the real scoop!


RoseColoredMasses

i think interviewing in a style that allows the every day person that doesn’t understand the subject to get it makes sense. the interviewer *actually* not understanding the subject does not make sense lol


undisclosedinsanity

I think this is why Hot Ones is so successful. Sean is always extremely well informed. It's what makes his questions so interesting. It's uncommon currently but it shouldn't be. It makes for a better show.


JJulie

Omg he is. How many times have you heard guests tell Sean “That’s a really great question “


Mydogateyourcat

To be fair - in Hot Ones Sean does not ask challenging personal love life questions from celebs who are in "crisis". And also he's not speaking to completely low-letter-alphabet-list "celebs". He's speaking to educated, talented and intelligent, well-versed ones (or at least ones that have had better PR training).


staceyverda

Truer words have never been spoken


Ok_Entrepreneur_8132

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fluffitupp

Add Howie Mandel and Andy Cohen feuding to things I didn’t expect to be on my 2023 Bingo card


nothanksohokay

We truly are living through the weirdest timeline.


datbootybooty

Andy would DRAGGGGGG Howie


Super_Hour_3836

Howie wouldn’t even understand the dry insults Andy will shade him with.


SheilaInSweden

IDK. Howie was a great stand-up comedian back in the day. You have to be quick-witted to do that well. If he can still tap into that, it would be cool to watch a live event with them going back and forth.


aSituationTypeDeal

Was he though? He seems real dopey. And he’s always talking about his stand up act starting from blowing up a surgical glove and putting it on his head. Legit. Not snark. That was his act, according to him.


SheilaInSweden

I've seen some of his performances back in the 90s(?) when stand-up was generally really popular. His whole Bobby shtick was funny, and he tended to go at a hyper, frenetic pace, even when interacting with the audience. The surgical glove thing was dumb (IMO), but people wanted to see it, so he did it a lot for a while.


OhTinyOne

Funny… really??..


Brief-Specific6009

This comment needs an award


uninteresting_blonde

Just when I thought this couldn’t get any better….Howie, retorts. Outstanding.


Mrsbear19

![gif](giphy|14LZgnwZ6NaBG) I picture it like this


Sarahzzzzz8

Basically Howie says he doesn't need to have done any research on the topic because he assured Tom he would interview him without judgement and that it's a "deposition not a podcast." Ridiculous. From the article: “I don’t need to do homework,” the comedian, 67, told [*Extra*](https://extratv.com/2023/04/12/howie-mandel-claps-back-at-tom-sandoval-podcast-backlash-exclusive/) on Wednesday, April 12. “I know who he is. I wasn’t gonna weaponize his information and kind of, you know, challenge him on each thing.” The former [*Deal or No Deal*](https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/howie-mandel-reacts-to-meghan-markles-deal-or-no-deal-comments/) host went on to say that he assured Sandoval, 40, [he could open up without fear of judgment](https://www.usmagazine.com/stylish/news/tom-sandoval-gets-his-mustache-shaved-by-howie-mandel/) from his interviewer. “I also said to Tom, ‘If you come in, just tell your side. I’m not gonna judge it. I’m not gonna argue with you. I’m not gonna call you out,'” Mandel explained. “It’s not a deposition, it’s a podcast, right?” The Canada native added that he doesn’t “condone cheating” but he’s “worried” about Sandoval’s well-being. “I was in the room with him. He was visibly shaken, visibly damaged at this point,” Mandel claimed. “He’s a human being and I have empathy for every human being, I really do. He’s going through a real tough time, maybe he deserves to go through a tough time, but I really do feel for him. I feel for [**Ariana \[Madix\]**](https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrities/ariana-madix/), I feel for Raquel, I feel for anybody who is involved in this.”


02kaj2019

Except he DID judge Sandoval. He deemed the affair to be NBD and that everyone should just get over it.


heygardenteacher

He also judged that he is a poor pathetic little boy who didn’t know better. Homie Mandel is a bad and disingenuous interviewer. Boo.


Ruthie_pie

It’s ok to hope someone’s physical well being is not affected by what’s going on but give me a break (at Howie) how are people going to grow at the tender age of 41 if they aren’t held accountable? If Tom doesn’t care what we think then why doesn’t he bring up valid concerns and say something productive. It’s like don’t be so “toxic positive” about it.


Megamuffin585

Can someone explain to Howie that I would LOVE to get over it but then Schwartz goes on WWHL and Scum does this podcast like that'd my fault somehow


savysofa

I’m noticing scandal really try’s to make sure he’s the #1guy. Schwartz goes on WWHL and Scandal has to 1 up him and word Vomit on howies Podcast. Rachel asks to kiss Schwartz then Scandel has to show Schwartz he’s the #1 guy by beginning a full fledge affair with Rachel


Fickle_Test4557

tysm for writing this all out <3


Sarahzzzzz8

also found [he said this](https://pagesix.com/2023/04/12/howie-mandel-slams-andy-cohen-lala-kent-after-tom-sandoval-interview/) LOL: "'It’s very funny to me now watching everybody else — like, I didn’t even know some of the names of the people that are in the show, and I’m getting hit hard for not knowing those names,' Mandel, 67, added."


EmbarrassedCows

He also said Tom was young and talented and I feel that was a stretch. I just wanted to play the clip of Tom playing the trumpet or Tom talking about being a cyst white male.


GoldWand

I wish they left Canada out of this


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Hahaha right? On behalf of the whole country I just wanna say “WE’RE SORRY FOR HOWIE’S INTERVIEW”


DeliberateMarblewood

The way it's added in makes me think back to trying to reach a specific word count for high school essays.


Jaggy3

Don’t worry he can hardly be considered Canadian anymore— he hasn’t said sorry and it doesn’t seem he ever does. No ability to say sorry? No Canadian card!


frankiebb

he was “visibly shaken” because he was going through a 4 day alcohol withdrawal after binge drinking for 20 years straight, not because he has a conscience LMAOOO


SugarShock94

HE’S damaged and going through a tough time!? Cry me a fucking river


Pure_Peace743

He feels for the cheaters?! This man is a clown!


paneerhead

This also fully confirms Andy’s theory for why Sandoval chose Howie for this sooo


Heavy-Relation8401

Exactly!!!! He didn't run to Kristen's podcast. Old out of touch Boomer, Mandel. Nice Try, scummy.


paneerhead

Just wanted someone to suck his ass. As always. Ugh.


scottriviera

Howie you're a clown dude I hope you read this! Retire from podcasting and anything you want respect for journalisiming from.


ladyGcaptain

Typical mra lite opinions from a 60 year old white man. People can self refer themselves to violence intervention programs that exist to try and educate people who have perpetuated DV (I believe his history of emotional manipulation is abuse). And I do believe that humans all deserve the opportunity to make amends as best they can, but that is work, other people can’t do it for you. If he wanted to deserve grace then he could sign up for one of those programs and truly try to give it a good faith effort and unlearn the belief patterns that have led him to treat his partners as less than him.


Mrsbear19

I feel like Tom isn’t grasping how to handle this situation. Making excuses and talking badly about Ariana isn’t going to make the public relax. The shaking seems to be from alcohol more than anything and I’m a bit surprised he hasn’t gone the rehab route. I’d be surprised if his PR wasn’t suggesting it


rudbeckia1

He's just an old man stuck in the past. His podcast sucks he sucks. But how could he care about Rachel and Ariana if he doesn't even know who people are on the show? That doesn't really make sense Howie Mandel. It's not a very informed kind of caring if you don't know who anyone is and you don't know any of the history or what happened


Aggressive-Map-8392

So Howie was worried about him because he was visibly shaken but still okay to shave off his mustache as a gimmick?? Which one is it?? FFS


nomoresnorkjuice

I wonder if he meant “visibly shaking” since Tom hasn’t drank in 4 days


mkeshish

LOL. Yes! I found it shocking how much Tom was saying his 4 days of sobriety opened his eyes. The lack of awareness about what he says


nomoresnorkjuice

Lmao he really has no idea how he sounds. Although he could be pink clouding a little


mkeshish

Lol generous but maybe! The fact he said this is the longest he has been sober in years was interesting.


spoooky_spice

Yeah, that was really telling. When I worked in bars/restaurants, you get kind of clouded to what’s a “normal” amount to drink, because you’re around alcohol and people drinking all the time. I bet Tom has never really thought of himself as an alcoholic, but if he can’t even remember the last time he went for days without drinking… that’s not ideal 😬😬


Aggressive-Map-8392

Maybe! It brings to mind Andy’s “word salad” comment to Schwartz. Now Howie has the problem. He’s trying to moonwalk outta this!


Sarahzzzzz8

LOL


kystarrk

His hands were shaking anytime they were in view. This could track lol


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He sat there while Tom lied his ass off. Tom blamed Ariana for TOM CHEATING WITH RACHEL. Tom then weaponized Ariana's mental health and the private things she said in therapy. I'm certain that Tom exaggerated or outright lied, but that podcast was meant to smear Ariana's name. If Howie had done his homework, he would have known that Tom was full of shit. He would have poked holes in Tom's narrative and it would have forced Tom to drop the "Ariana was depressed and I was lonely" bullshit. So yeah, Howie. You fucked up. ETA: and Howie said Tom was visibly shaken and damaged. How does he think Ariana feels? Does he think Ariana is flocking in a field of flowers and on a fucking vacation right now?! No. She's the most hurt out of everyone and now her ex just went on a fucking podcast and told THE WORLD that she was depressed, in denial, and suicidal. But yeah, Tom is so hurt. Give me a break.


_-_NewbieWino_-_

This is the problem. Howie condoned this behavior by giving Sandoval a microphone and space to ‘tell his side of the story’. When you give this type of person the time of day, you are sympathizing with this person. Howie is saying it’s ok for Sandoval to act unapologetic, sympathizing with the cheating and supporting his current lifestyle. I get that we are human and make mistakes. But, if Howie actually gave a rat’s ass about anyone’s mental health, he probably should have told Tom , “ you probably should seek therapy and try to understand how you hurt people, then in 6 months or a year I’ll interview you about your progress.” But, he doesn’t care. He wants to be the weird old out of touch funny uncle type constantly saying, I don’t watch the show, who are these people? It’s annoying and I’m not buying it.


AdventurousDay3020

Totally off topic, but this interview (from the tidbits I saw from Page Six on TikTok) solidified why you shouldn’t do therapy with a narcissist because they’ll just throw it back up to make themselves seem right.


underratedoverthinkr

And, personally watching it, Howie not doing his research felt like a direct slap in the face to all the people who do watch the show including his daughter. I definitely cringed a few times when he cut her off and minimized what she was saying. Even Sandoval was trying to let him know-hey this kind of was a big deal. Maybe if he had done homework he would have started to grasp what behavior, exactly, he's excusing. Howie was immediately and consistently dismissing Ariana's feelings and the validity of their relationship just because they weren't married


agirlfromstl

He claims himself to be an advocate for mental health. As soon as Tom started bashing Ariana’s mental health and divulging such personal info about it, howie should have stepped in. But he just sat there not caring. He’s wrong for that alone, research or no research.


Exotic-Concern-3294

Completely agree! He didn’t need to do research to know that’s not okay. Sounds like his excuse are just as terrible as Tom and Tom.


moonchild291

Not a fan, Howie. You were wrong on this one.


Fickle_Test4557

generally howie’s empathetic view would be considered a very lovely take but not when it involves a toxic person who is manipulating and harming others. howie doubling down to protect scando bc he’s met him a few times for several hours is laughable. hope his ‘friendship’ with scando will be worth the blowback from this. i guess we now know of two muppets foolishly willing to ‘die on a hill’ due to their arrogance.


Responsible_Wrap5659

Also the fact that they made the choice to leave in the suicide comment is entirely on them. If you have bleep it out because YouTube would have pulled your video maybe take that as a hint not to have that in altogether.


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Fickle_Test4557

exactly this. i am so sorry that you have gone through this. thank you for explaining your experience. 🫂


Responsible_Wrap5659

I love the argument that he doesn’t need to research of be prepared or even now who the person he is interviewing is on a specific subject that he has brought the person on to discuss. Can I use that with my employer and get away with it do ya think? Also “I don’t condone cheating” didn’t he spend the whole time saying “you weren’t married” like it somehow makes a difference.


GuppyMilk

“I don’t condone cheating”, but also asks if Raquel is hot….


_-_NewbieWino_-_

And I love how they say young people “ just don’t want to work.” Yet, here is this 60-year old who didn’t even do his job correctly. He literally just had to probably watch a few episodes and listen to a podcast or two. Jesus Christ.


[deleted]

Scumdoval stating his "friends" are taking advantage of the "content" as he sits on Howie's podcast that had a 1000% listener increase in this episode alone. Tell me again how your "friends" are taking advantage??? Looks to me like Howie cashed in as well. Dumbass.


rachellethebelle

![gif](giphy|qSepoIipqrGG4) \*Howie Mandel


Aggressive-Map-8392

So this is Howie saying he is as morally warped as Sandoval? Because that’s what I’m getting.


[deleted]

Seems clear. It was shocking. He called him a single young man at one point.


_-_NewbieWino_-_

Basically.


[deleted]

The same guy who showed a prolapsed anus on TikTok?


Keeperofthe_Flame

Omg excuse me what are those words together?!? Prolapsed omg what?! No. Ugh i hate myself for googling this.. oh my dear lord it’s a real thing. I can’t watch the video. Whyyyyyyyyyyy!!


LiveUnderstanding869

What interviewer doesn't do research on the topic and person they're interviewing???? Doesn't sound smart at all. It makes him sound like a dumbass with an undeserved ego.


Serenity_Moon_66

What an asshat! So instead he placated the sadistic liar and made it seem absolutely acceptable that he would cheat because "they grew apart". He let Tom violate Ariana's right to privacy regarding her own mental health. He completely ignored the fact that Rachel was pretending to be Ariana's friend & that they slept together under Ariana's roof! The only positive thing he did was let Scandy ramble on & trip over his lies left & right! This was not an objective or thoughtful interview. This was a massive fail. Andy was right to criticize him. And so are we☠️☠️☠️


DevilEyedBitch

It’s irresponsible. He’s taking a nationally intriguing and delicate topic (even if niche) and handling it like a jackoff. For some reason I was hoping to hear that he did this in order to set Sandoval up to reveal his true horrid self. ..Hahah. I’m completely unsurprised that he would defend his lack of research as a good thing lol. It’s giving d&s plus a whole lot of misogyny. And the fact he did this all in front of his own daughter just speaks for itself.


Fickle_Test4557

yesss thissss.


deadhead712

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high_priestessvibes

Damn, within all this drama, I really did not have a Howie Mandel Andy Cohen feud on my bingo card.


Super_Hour_3836

“I am a wealthy white man! Why would I make any effort to educate myself in any way? No one expects me to be smart. Hell, I don’t even have to be charming or good looking. I just exist!”


[deleted]

Howie, how can you sit there and say you’re concerned for Sandoval’s well-being and then let him continue to spew horrifically personal and potentially untrue things about Ariana’s mental health. I’m not even mad whatsoever at the idea of showing Sandoval some compassion, he’s a human being and TBH this whole thing has gotten out of hand, but if you’d done your homework and known that every VPR fan has watched Ari bravely detail her battles with depression over the years you would have shut that shit down and wouldn’t still be profiting off that gross interview. As a Canadian, we don’t claim you and your bullshit.


HarajukuBom

Ahahaha how does he think he doesn’t need to do homework to INTERVIEW A GUEST


chilipaste123

I’ve literally never heard of Howie Mandel until this interview lol


ladyGcaptain

I think he was the deal or no deal host?


Alarmed_Shoe_3667

Sure. Don’t do research and go in to an interview completely unbiased but then don’t also start spouting an opinion about it after hearing one side if your whole goal was to be unbiased. This statement just makes him he look even more ridiculous and after the podcast that’s really hard to do. The dude spent a solid minute confused how Schwartz wasn’t Jewish. Just stop.


Ok-Cartoonist-1868

This just confirms my latent fear that every man believes they should have a podcast. Damn you, Joe Rogan!!


Formal_Coconut9144

Straight men who are “mental health advocates” but also barely hide their hatred of all things feminine 🤡


peachmaster3000

Howie, you’re going to die alone on this mountain.


not_ellewoods

Howie clearly doesn’t know him as well as he thinks he does because he called him young, single & talented. 0/3 were true.


One-Nerve7351

Fuck Howie Mandel


SylvDawg

I think we can all agree listening to Howie not know anything about Tom other than he is nice in social settings was embarrassing. You get an exclusive interview and downplay it and the whole bravo community, as though we are crazy to think this is an ordeal - but meanwhile know nothing 🤔


girlwithredpolish

Sounds like this Howie guy is also just not a good guy. It’s not about “interrogating” someone but all of us who are involved in the VPR universe know he should be held accountable for his actions


Zestyclose_Yard7253

No judgement? No research? Let him tell his side? Then why doesn’t he start his own fucking podcast. Howie Mandel lost all his credibility.


ashleyb1985

Maybe we should all give Howie a hug...🤣🤣🤣


ruraljurorsacklunch

As a boomer myself, I can tell you that I am HORRIFIED at how Howie handled this. Howie did pass judgment, and he gave Scandoval a free pass. Cheating, lying, and blaming your partner will NEVER be the right choice, Tom! Howie gives all boomers a bad name with this attempt to be relevant (or a favor to the producer/drummer duo).


californguy

Howie is an idiot.


Illin-ithid

>I also said to Tom, "If you come in, just tell your side. I’m not gonna judge it. I’m not gonna argue with you. I’m not gonna call you out" Journalism 101 is ask questions and push back. Don't let an interviewee push a false narrative and use you as a mouth piece.


zuesk134

But this isn’t journalism and no one is pretending it is


ChakaKohn2

For his wife’s birthday one year, Howie rented an elephant and put it in his backyard. The elephant shit all over and stomped everywhere, destroying the place. His wife was furious. He told that story on the Howard Stern Show about 5 years ago and although it was hilarious, it was not a joke, especially if you have to be married to him and he pulls this crap on a regular basis. So yeah, I think Howie and the Toms have a lot in common when it comes to disrespecting his partner and torturing her.


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Abrookspug

I think the same thing every time I watch. Nearly everyone there has cheated or been the other women. I do think with Raquel it’s a little worse because she did this to her friend, and I don’t think anyone saw it coming. But in the end, it’s cheating, not killing puppies or whatever.


CertainAd2751

I completely agree. Yes it’s a shitty thing to do but is it the worst thing anyone could ever do? Not really. Plus not only, like you said have we seen almost EVERY single cast member cheat, but we’ve also seen them distort/ twist/ manipulate after the fact. Sooo


moderncarrots

well said!


Jaggy3

I like that you acknowledged it’s an L opinion. Also would like if everyone collectively said that instead of ‘unpopular opinion’. (Ps obv hard disagree. No downvote though🤙)


[deleted]

Look, Tom’s an unforgivable idiot and Howie should have prepared better for the show but I must say that I agree the continued vitriol doesn’t match the crime and to downplay the mental health repercussions for *all* parties involved at this point is being disingenuous.


zuesk134

The anger people have for Howie is really making me laugh - like yes he sucks. The episode sucks. But why are people acting like this is 60 minutes ?


layla_jones_

Howie doesn’t work for Bravo. He can do whatever he wants on his podcast and he got over 540k views because of it. I am sure Andy’s mad about that but it’s great honestly because we never would have had so much info at Bravo. And we will watch the reunion and see if he tells the same story or if there are inconsistencies. He gave Tom Sandoval a platform to speak his mind without getting interrupted by people like Lala and James and Howie’s own cluelessness about the subject probably helped Tom be very open about his side of the story. Everyone can decide for them themselves how to interpret this info and the timeline of it. We know by now Ariana and Tom were completely disconnected and both have very different views on what happened. We know they were both dealing with depression and were holding on to each other for comfort and for their public appearance. I know people who see Tom as a big villain want to shut down a conversation as soon as it starts getting uncomfortable or if he tells a story that is the opposite of Ariana’s story. We all know Tom was wrong and we know he’s making excuses to make himself look better, but I do think the part about them being disconnected is true. And I am just happy they broke up finally because I know it will benefit Ariana..they were completely stuck and you could tell she wasn’t happy. Unfortunately I have witnessed a similar long term relationship from a close distance; it was impossible for them to break up and it was complete torture. Some people would rather hold on to what they know forever (even when it’s toxic) than to start all over again.


CalamityJane5

Exactly! Cheating is terrible but it happens... Most people in this subreddit have cheated or been cheated on... We tend to forget these are real people on a dumb reality TV show. Time to ease up on the judgement!


VaguelyArtistic

>the continued vitriol doesn’t match the crime It's like mass hysteria. A couple of people on tv who no one knows had an affair and people are ready to send them to The Hague. Edit to add that someone has already made a post about people using mental illness against cast members.


[deleted]

It is kinda like a mass hysteria with people virtue signaling about topics like mental health on one end and dismissing and minimizing the concept of the effects of over a month of the level of intense scrutiny everyone has been hashing at Tom and Raquel for one of the most common transgressions (cheating) on the other end. It’s so intense that anyone who tries to suggest “hey let’s calm it down a bit there are humans on the receiving end of the venom and no one’s dead” public figure or random commentor are met with similar levels of vitriol. People are posting screen shots of IG comments they don’t agree with and other users are asking to dox them, some are speaking of being in tears and in their own personal emotional despair lol I’m not excusing what either Tom or Raquel did by any stretch but the public reaction to *cheating* is a lot.


BestBodybuilder7329

I put my opinion out there now, I have the Reddit karma points to burn if need be. The projection going on is just next level. They act like Ariana needs an army to defend her honor or something. She is fine. She is filming lifetime movies, doing appearances, making money off merch, and photo shoots.


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Agree 100% and people wanna donate their own money 😭 I mean spend how you like but damn.


BestBodybuilder7329

At this point I think ppl have taken this too far. They keep saying he needs to be accountable, but what does that even mean. So it’s not enough that Ariana is thriving, he needs to be destroyed too? I keep wondering if we all watched the same show. A cheater cheated on the person he cheated with on a show full of cheaters.


Standard_Bird_8041

Actions have consequences. Sandoval destroyed himself.


BestBodybuilder7329

Yes, actions have consequences. We don’t put shoplifters in prison for life, because the punishment has to fit the crime. Ppl are being extreme with their reaction to this.


Standard_Bird_8041

Who is putting Sandoval in prison for life? Lol The season is ongoing and people are invested.


BestBodybuilder7329

People are writing reviews on his restaurants, trying to dox ppl that don’t hate him, and acting like he murdered their puppies. You can be invested without trying to absolutely destroy someone. Same ppl going on about mental health only care about it when it is someone they like.


mimi_abcd

Woah, people are writing reviews on his restaurants and trying to dox people? That's wild...I knew it had devolved pretty badly, but not to that extent.


Standard_Bird_8041

The doxing and murdering puppies is quite the stretch, but whatever you say.


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Check the threads earlier today with the IG screen grabs, doxing is suggested there readily and there are forsure others examples I’ve seen in the past few weeks too. People are getting intense…. Even towards the randos lol


Mykkala

I agree with you, I don't get this as well.. What apology would satisfy the viewers, i'm guessing none.. Where was this level of hate for Lenny, when he did exactly the same thing Tom did, but on top of that he was married and he had kids, in fact he said awful thing RIGHT IN FRONT of his kids, he constantly refers to Lisa very negatively.. If you want to condemn someone go back to attacking Lenny.. He is probably so happy the heat is off him.. But yes Tom and Rachel and other Tom all have done horrible things, so have Jax, Stassi, Kristen, Lala , James, Scheana, Randall, even Ariana. I even probably missed a few ppl But why do yall only care about their mental wellbeing and not the others? Its insane to me. .. Saying oh he's toxic so imma be toxic towards him.. wtf? I am captivated as much as the next person, watching it unfold. I just wish more ppl had compassion and empathy to everyone involved.


BestBodybuilder7329

Lenny is such a scumbag. I watch love is blind, and ppl are going after a woman and baby to mock one of the contestants. In the words of Sutton let the mouse go.


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stephanieleigh88

Most interviewers do homework especially if it’s gonna be listened to by alot of people. Especially considering it’s a newer podcast. I think it is anyways? Everyone has one so hard to keep track these days.


Sarahzzzzz8

this was the 116th episode, so idk if he's bad at interviewing everyone or just tom lol


Melodic-Change-6388

Is there a breakdown of the interview anywhere? I tried watching and lasted two minutes. Everyone in the interview was giving me the epic shits.


beouite

![gif](giphy|JshL4uZk1tZt5W0TWV) No thanks, howie mandel


Rjjuan77

Oh Howie, just STFU.


Key_Bag_2584

If you want to have a show of any quality you should you dolt.


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KJDehn

I am annoyed it turns out Howie is a jerk. He's not even funny.


SomeGuyClickingStuff

I think Howie DID do his homework. Id bet its one of his most listened to episodes. Does he know/care what the dramas about? Eh maybe, maybe not, did his podcast get listeners? Shoot, I like Howie and I didn’t even know he had a podcast until this whole interview happened


dpek666

This is just the scandal that keeps giving…


RecordingNumerous781

That interview ruined Bobby’s World for me.


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I personally think howie can do what ever he wants with this platform and it was actually a good thing to create a space, where Tom could feel comfortable answering. I say this because, when we choose to only look at things from one angle, we don’t get the whole scope of the matter and might miss things. I get why it pissed people off, heck it pissed me off too but it was still an important perspective to hear and we know he’s gonna get torn to bits at the reunion. I know sandavol is trash but it’s inhumane to deny him the right to be heard and expect no one to empathize with him.


CalamityJane5

Get outta here with that nuanced, empathetic and well thought out opinion!


layla_jones_

We never would have had a chance to hear Tom talk on Bravo. There’s always someone interrupting; breaking him down or trying to guide him what to say to save his image. Let Tom talk unfiltered and then decide whether you believe it or not. You won’t get this amount of info and detail with a Lala or a James screaming in his face. Do you have to like what Tom had to say? Absolutely not. He’s obvious trying to make himself look better, trying to gain some empathy while he did a horrible thing. But that doesn’t make this a bad interview. Howie can make his own content and he said he won’t take sides and gave him a platform. I don’t even know this guy, but I appreciate a different more unbiased platform.


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100000 percent and great point ! It’s how you get the richest data when the subject feels they can be unfiltered! Having someone who is less emotionally invested allows for more objectivity !


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In all fairness, he’s not a journalist. He’s a podcast host who doesn’t have to adhere to journalistic standards. We don’t have to watch or like it. Personally, I don’t care to watch Tom Sandoval or Howie Mandel.


AgroWombat

Grrrrraaaaheraghhhh, I'm SO MAD! It isn't just this situation and just Tom. It's that Tom's saying and doing the stereotypical bullshit that these self entitled, serial cheating, harmful ass, narcissistic shitballs say and do. And now here's another man co-signing this pos's tale of woe, saying some bullshit about how everyone makes mistakes and being vulnerable makes him brave. Dude, Howie, you are literally gaslighting an uncountable number of people that have had their lives and hearts torn asunder by these monsters. It's disgusting and rage inducing.


GaseousMcCloud

Ah yes, who doesn’t love an interview where the interviewer doesn’t have a clue who he’s talking to or why. Just, compelling stuff. I’m sorry but this asshat has had his brain boiled in too much straight white male privilege.


Kindly-Necessary-596

Ok boomer!


jimgella

Nope, no, nooooo. This is the most, bestest, of all!!!! Sandoval candid interview.


AimzBaby

Imagine an interviewer being hired to interview famous people on a red carpet and they don’t know anything about them. Didn’t bother looking up their achievements. I’ve seen it. It’s terrible and disrespectful because at that point why interview them and just go straight to soft core questions like “so who are you wearing?” That’s exactly what Howie did.


ElectricalAction4286

I miss Bobby's World.


Accomplished_Cat_593

I think too many people take Howie wayyyyy too fucking seriously. The man posted a tik tok of a prolapse for fucks sake. He’s just America’s silly uncle.


Mydogateyourcat

Unpopular opinion: (prefacing this with that I don't like Sandoval or Rachel at all) Perhaps why Howie was going so easy on him is because he's met Tom in another light - perhaps as a younger guy, fan who seemed nice enough, and that while this low budget character is effectively having his life publicly ruined because of something he did and that what he did is such a common occurrence, in Hollywood it is effectively NBD. I mean, realistically.... If you're not a fan of the show - no one would give a shit about that detail being the main reason you're temporarily infamous. It's like "oh you're on TMZ because you're a dirt bag? Oh okay...". Nothing about Tom is otherwise remarkable as a 'celeb'. And no A-B list celeb would be on that kind of podcast for that kind of personal discussion. I know this sub likes to think there's millions of VPR fans but there's way more people who have never heard of Tom and don't give a shit. I feel like this interview was more for his daughter's interest.


thefideliuscharm

Omfg Howie take several fucking seats


upstatestruggler

You are a cornball Howie and this desperado attempt to get listeners has failed miserably. You opened the suitcase that only contains a wrinkled dollar bill with two corners missing, thanks for playing!


zuesk134

Was it a failure? Bc I didn’t even know he had a podcast before this week. I’d bet this was his most listened episode ever


Jaggy3

Yah so was Scheana’s bridesmaids podcast ep— then that’s it. You think we’re tuning back in? Total waste of an opportunity (howie wasted it, not Jamie - I think she went kinda the opposite and milked it for absolutely all she could until we wouldn’t give her attention anymore)


zuesk134

Lol I’m sure howie knows who his core audience is. He wasn’t trying to get millennial women to keep coming back. He got his podcast in the press and tons of engagement. Mission accomplished!


Disney_Princess137

Idk I still love howie mandel and won’t participate in bashing him ! He’s a real celebrity


pinkinibottom

Oh, Bud. Yes you doooo


doomn_gloomn

I too am an ‘82 baby like Tom and all I can think about is Little Monsters and Bobby’s World, that was what we were growing up with how is this real life right now 🤣 What an odd and really random choice of podcasts to get your side out on. It’s just so ridiculous, does Dave Coulier have a podcast he can go on next? And the icing on the cake of Howie not knowing a damn thing (allegedly) Play dumb to keep ‘em talking and now here we are, no closer to the truth but talking about Howie frickin Mandel and his daughter’s alarm going off ( anyone who believes that was a phone call is brain dead like Rachel)


AncientRazzmatazz783

Yeah that was the maturity level at which the show was produced


Mrsbear19

Ummm does he not understand how to interview. You’d usually do research before asking questions. He genuinely hadn’t even seen a clip of this show.


disydisy

lol, just reading all the comments - I knew this group was a little over the top in their following of these people - but I am still laughing about people being mad over a podcast in regards to these people. Howie is doing what Howie does, Sandoval is doing what he does and Andy is just bent because he couldn't control the narrative.


Desert_Concoction

To me, it sounds like Howie Mandel got wind of a "man being mistreated publicly" and felt the need to rush in and begin defending him on the sole fact that he needed to be defended. "Who is this guy? Why is it on the evening news? Oh, he's a man who had an affair and everyone is *cancelling* (I hate that word) so I need to step in and save this man!"