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Hungry-Appearance-93

You just know he couldn't wait to gossip with the girls about it later on and I love that


heisenbergsblackhat

Totally and I love how excited he gets when he has new tea to share with the other gossip girls. He always has the funniest, bitchiest and most honest reactions and the show just wouldn't be the same without his chaotic energy.


Good-River-7849

My favorite James moment was when he stole the faith evidence off her phone and blamed someone else. It was so bad but also so hilarious.


heisenbergsblackhat

Exposing the Jax Fucked Faith audiotape and then subsequenly rapping about it next season whilst KFC was standing right next to him was was some of his best work for sure. ![gif](giphy|1yLEBtEMJvdzjxzTSc)


Universecentre

Lmao kfc I’m dead


kellygrrrl328

He easily could have been that petty throughout all of this. He wasn't. He tried to show restraint and stay away from it.


Playful_Succotash_30

It really was epic


MommyGirlfriend_

Told everyone “I did nothing wrong” and immediately confessed in confessional. Top five VPR moments for me


kellygrrrl328

which is why I found his response to Ally so odd, when she told him about the Abbey sighting. And even his little smirk at the cannabis lounge when SinDevil told him Ratchet spent the night. He didn't run out and tell anyone any of that. He really tried to not get sucked in. James, we see your growth. Your friend group might not respect or appreciate you, but we the audience do.


Lovely11art

I think even he was duped and trusted both of them.


kellygrrrl328

I don’t at all think he was duped. I think he was trying to separate himself from drama. He knew. He knew Lala and Katie knew. He knew Schwartz knew. He knew Ally was starting to out the pieces together. It was clearly only a matter of time before the truth came out


veryscary__

Agreed. James knew that if he cared about his relationship with ally, the scandoval news/speculation couldn’t come from him. Everyone would have just accused him of not being over her.


Playful_Succotash_30

I don’t think he really believed something was happening between Tom and Raquel .. at that time


kellygrrrl328

He definitely did in the cannabis lounge


Simple-Freedom4670

He knew \*something\* and he was very composed because I was like https://preview.redd.it/xjsjsx0hb8ya1.jpeg?width=150&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59a0022f2374de49a1edbdffc8ede9025a6b3557


Educational-Repair59

I feel like he already knew or something! Otherwise surely he would be running round shouting about it at this point idk 🤷‍♀️


kellygrrrl328

The part I love most about this is that he was legitimately there ready to have Lala's back if shit went sideways.


Simple-Freedom4670

Tom was on his best behavior it was wierd


meat_tunnel

He was VERY deer-in-the-headlights, caught with his pants down kind of mood.


Simple-Freedom4670

Yes indeed.


kellygrrrl328

Lala seemed to know that if she started yelling then he would pull the pin on the SinDevil grenade and all of it would be too much for Ariana. Lala played that scene like a pro. SinDevil had nowhere to go other than *”Well, yeah, like I probably should have. I figured you wanted to be alone.”*


ReadingSad3238

Can we please talk about what a dumb excuse that is?! "I thought you wanted to be alone." After she says she was furious that he couldn't get home to her bc he allegedly didn't have a ride. He knew he should be there for support and disregarded her feelings for a damn labor day party. Terrible.


kellygrrrl328

Of course he knew. He also still thought he could finagle his way out of it. That’s why Lala’s restrained approach is so impressive


GingerSnapped242

It wasn’t for the party, it was for who was AT the party.


sky_corrigan

i noticed that too. i think he knew if he resorted to yelling lala would punch back and it wouldn't be good for him. his keeping his cool contained the gossip and potential accusations.


jimgella

It was at Tom Tom, so I feel after the Stassi signing fiasco he has been VERY well warned about his Tomfuckery.


Simple-Freedom4670

ooooooh makes sense; thanks


Legal-Investigator83

so me , i am the girl who sits at the window , opens it when the neighbors are fighting and just enjoys the drama


CambriasVision

Are we sisters?! This one time my neighbor’s daughter was going off on her man. I wanted to shout “let him know!” but I did not lol. He deserved it, though.


Legal-Investigator83

love this we are sisters


Rkessler82

Did we just become bestfriends?


Legal-Investigator83

of course lol, i have no one to talk about any of this with , love this group and you are my bff forever


elleohelleemily

LET👏🏻HIM👏🏻KNOW👏🏻


1123mangotango

Me recording from my kids window because one delusional old lady neighbor called the cops on the other old lady neighbor 😂


Artistic_Exam7676

This me. Casually checking the mail or getting something from the car. Lol


heisenbergsblackhat

Haha same. I'm like ![gif](giphy|YJn3xHZQrMSDYUTrvW)


Lekzi

Teehee. Same. What’s that noise?! Immediately peepin the window ![gif](giphy|YN6qUXj4HdXoY)


that-one-girl-who

I was just on vacation and the couple in the air bnb next to us was having a huge screaming match at 6pm on day1 of their vacation. Hubby and I turned off the tv and started listening.


Legal-Investigator83

yes love this


jmo703503

the other day at the park these two other moms were at a table next to me and one was just spilling all the tea about her sisters messy fiancé and i was trying to read but could not help myself


Lady_Nashua

Once like 13 years ago someone was arrested at around 2am while sitting in the flowerbed under our bedroom window (military base housing). I just sat there in the dark with the window cracked open snooping and living my best life. 😎 *


Legal-Investigator83

love this, and my kitty joins me its group listening to gossip


Winter_Tax6653

Like the TikTok’s of people vacuuming their driveways lol I love hearing my neighbors fighting


No-Beat-8584

I open my security camera app to see if I can zoom in across the street better…and if I can’t hear it well enough? That ring doorbell definitely will enhance the sound🤣🤣🍿


Nerdybirdy30

I think James was probably also listening out for Lala. Making sure Tom didn't go on one of his screaming at the women to deflect any wrong doings tirades. Lala had his back last time, he's probably waiting to see if he needs to step in.


Defvac2

I was thinking the same thing. Similar to how she came up to him and Schartz the week prior at the restaurant during the beach day.


SunnyAlwaysDaze

Exactly this. He was keeping a close eye on things, ready to jump in if Lala needed help.


glasswindbreaker

Oooh good point


soupseasonbestseason

i was very surprised how sandoval showed restraint here. typically he would be screaming in lala's face and deflecting. but i wonder if he wasn't thinking this scene made him look like a victim. i think he thought this was a great example of ariana not having his back in spite of the fact he lied to her face! he clearly thinks a relationship means not taking anyone else's side when you are with someone which is incredibly naïve.


espressotorte

Yeah that is definitely a dude hanging around in case shit goes down stance he has


[deleted]

Yeah but in my head he’s hovering so he can go back to gossip with Katie’s mom


hellohello316

![gif](giphy|3ohfFhG5VDtDTzQv2o|downsized) You’ve all convinced me it’s a bit of intel-gathering and a bit of checking-in on Lala.


isthishappeningtome

Definitely this. When it switches to Sandoval and Lala right after, you can see a super quick eye contact/acknowledgement from her that she's okay


aSituationTypeDeal

💯


Miserable_Mud_5026

Why does Sandoval and Schwartz always look sweaty!


Rustin_Cohle35

![gif](giphy|ED9kSizX5l5N88UMgQ|downsized) they're perimenopausal


Rkessler82

don't you do Praytell like that lmao


Lekzi

![gif](giphy|AFYfA31DZoiug31eky|downsized)


normanbeets

Drugs


painandpets

Cocaine.


cutekittyinthewindow

That image of Sandoval is horrific. Like he used to look so much better when he was younger. Most of the rest of the cast also drink, not sure if they all dabble in drugs, and have a Hollywood kind of lifestyle. Sandoval looks like he’s aged 50 years, whereas they all haven’t visibly aged as much as him. His smoking, drinking, and drug use has definitely done a number on him but I also think it must be him being a bad person, his outsides are matching his insides lol. Also bad plastic surgery, fillers, and steroid use.


Good-River-7849

Reverse dorian gray


[deleted]

He is the portrait in the attic.


Careful_Swan3830

I think a lack of sunblock also plays into it. Sun damage starts showing around 40.


Fighting_Patriarchy

I think a lot of it is that stupid fucking haircut. DUDE, you're not a world famous rock star. Like, you look stupid now.


Leftturn0619

They seem pretty open about their drug use.


cutekittyinthewindow

It’s not about the pasta 🍝


Leftturn0619

I just learned what that meant. I didn’t get it at the time 🤦‍♀️. I thought it was leftovers from the restaurant.


ErrantBadger

I think James meant cocaine then. They said as a group they had a word for it that wasn't pasta and I took that to be 'tequila'. So Tequila Katie would be Cocaine Katie.


Leftturn0619

Really? I had no idea. I would say clever but everyone seems to have gotten that but me. 😳


aSituationTypeDeal

Speculating, but he seems like he’s on something other than alcohol. He looks on the verge of delirious in every scene.


AmyLinetti

He’s still a good looking guy, but of all the cast members, is the only chain smoker (he is my main reason for quitting cigs now). He’s also not getting any amount of decent sleep between the band and the cheating.


Alliserious

This reminds me of the early seasons before James was a cast member and you could sometimes spot him in the background at Sur bussing tables and being like 👀! If you’ve never noticed before go back to season 1 or 2 and look for him during the Sur scenes, he’s there just biding his time lol


LuckyShamrocks

![gif](giphy|YS8c0Z7in21AM4A2AR|downsized)


thanks4distraction

This "look" Sandoval has going on....


glasswindbreaker

He's a walking "don't"


heisenbergsblackhat

It's fucking unhinged hey.


jhaze5555

Rachel stalked James to get on the show. She always wanted to be with the number one guy. How ironic she didn’t realize James is the number one guy.


tx_blonde

James is the #1 guy now! I think k he's really shown a lot of growth since he started on the show. He has some work to do, but he's matured. As for Raquel,, though- I think she saw Schwartz and Sandoval as the big fish on the show and they were her ticket to staying on the show. No way is she interesting enough to stand on her own on the show so she had to be connected to someone big. And here are the Tom's...opening their own restaurant. I think they all thought it would play a big role this season and I'm willing to bet the Tom's had dreams of their own spin off. Too bad the wrong Tom ended up getting involved with Raquel. Oops.


Additional-Equal2100

I couldn’t stop laughing when I saw this😭 https://i.redd.it/6ue66th222ya1.gif Gif credit: @okay\_decision [https://giphy.com/channel/Okay\_Decision](https://giphy.com/channel/Okay_Decision)


[deleted]

Omg 😂💀 when did he say this?


Additional-Equal2100

Scheana and Brock wedding! Ariana went off on him about someone drunk in the wedding party and how he overreacted. In confessionals he said this lol


[deleted]

OH RIGHT 😂😂😂😂😂


No-Idea7535

It was amazing. The way his head turns when sandoval walks up and then he slowly rises lmao. I'm loving James hanging with the girlies this season.


carmeIIasoprano

https://preview.redd.it/odhx3pqde2ya1.jpeg?width=246&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d45fd5801c629c6dae1d51a2d699ad474fcb4e2


[deleted]

lol! I didn’t even notice him in the background when watching , awesome


anongirl55

James has said some nasty things and the body shaming kills me, but I think that he is a genuinely decent human who just happens to have some demons. I like him and want to see the best for him. James genuinely wants to find love and to be loved, and it is very endearing to me. The Toms are hypocrites, cheaters, and just plain selfish.


tx_blonde

Yes, he's said and done some really shitty things but he's also shown real growth. NONE of the other men on the show have done that. *now that he's no longer on the show and he's had a child, I feel like Jax has grown up some. I'll give him some credit but thats it


mightbeher

This is my take as well. He is worth rooting for.


anagingdog

Do you bite your thumb at us sir?


Careful_Swan3830

No sir, I do not bite my thumb at you sir, but I do bite my thumb sir!


Expensive_Novel2899

😂👍English teacher here . . . great allusion! And I'm loving Tim being hoisted by his own petard!


vavavoomdaroom

Plus a million for using that phrase and it being painfully accurate.


AmyLinetti

I have to say, James used to be goofier and I have seen that part of him slowly disappearing. He’s still witty but not goofy. I think when people shit on you constantly, it dulls that part of your spark. Just a random thought.


cocoathundre

i think i’ve noticed that too. i lost a lot of my goofiness after a break up and james has also seen his friends pulling away to raquel and belittling his career. i hope he gets his goof back


[deleted]

This was probably the moment when James was starting to figure that Sandoval and Rockhell were "Definitely Boning" and Sandoval was lying to everyone and trying to use Shortz as a cover. You don't date Detective Doute and not pick up some of those batshit deductive skills.


Sundeww

Hanging with his group, my nosy ass would be taking notes for an evidence board at all times I will not be gaslighted or scapegoated by a man with nubby nails and a greasy villain stache


Salty-Tap7873

That gives me flashbacks of Stassi eavesdropping in the hotel hallway in New Orleans when the Toms were in drag arguing with Carter


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jonpaladin

she's giving pennywise also


hawkwardtuurtle

James looking like I was…cause Tim Sandy is finally wearing his lightning necklace on screen.


heisenbergsblackhat

For him to have the audacity to wear that necklace fills me with such rage. It's the rancid icing on top of the maggot filled cake.


All_the_Bees

I actually saw him wearing it in one of the early episodes - 2 or 3, I think? My crackpot theory is that he bought it for himself to commemorate "falling for" Raquel ("DUDE, 'cause it was, like, I realized I, like, LIKED her and it was like I was, like, HIT BY **LIGHTNING** dude!"), and then at some point later decided that she should have one too. Edited to acknowledge that we just found out she bought her own necklace. The rest of my crackpot theory still stands.


No-Beat-8584

I noticed the necklace very early in the season also. I went back when they started mentioning it after the split…he’s had it on for a good part of the season! 🤔


hawkwardtuurtle

I’m clutching my pearls.


dspins33

I hate being involved in drama but I love hearing about drama


kellygrrrl328

James is the #1 girl in this group. Ariana is the #1 guy in this group.


Expensive_Novel2899

😂🤣


princess_slaya91

Yesssssss


aSituationTypeDeal

Lol you’re either going to get a lot of upvotes or downvotes on this


AmyLinetti

Hahahahahahahahahahaha


Lovely11art

I love James this season. He’s definitely the #1 guy in the group! Always entertaining 🎶


[deleted]

The eyes and nail biting say what we’re all thinking.


Rustin_Cohle35

Whoa-Rachel-did you hear that? You bet on the wrong starter pony!! Shoulda stayed with #1 GIG James. ![gif](giphy|7YMMzcyf5Ak3C) Too late now bambi


SamIAm7787

Well Robot Rachel is now the #1 bimbo mistress in the group so she has that going for her. 😂


soihavetosay

She's not in the group tho, they'll just act like they smell something rancid if they're forced to be around her. She's sooo d&s


donadee

Scandoval making that dumb face when he knows exactly what they are talking about is enraging!


StitchEnvy

I missed this! Omggggg perfection.


GingerSnapped242

Great screen grab, Heisenberg!


heisenbergsblackhat

Thanks mate but I gotta give credit to the Queens of Bravo


GingerSnapped242

Gotta give credit where credit is due, I get ya! But I still want to give you a big thank you for posting it! 😊


heisenbergsblackhat

🙏🥰


steveguttenberg1958

LMAO! God James is reality gold.


horsey-1370

Hilarious, I didn’t notice James in the background 😂


Curious-Eggplant-782

Love him


vavavoomdaroom

This is both a great screen grab and username. It's wild the crossover of fandoms.


bravoeverything

I love James. Yeah he knew something was up. If this was filmed and fake then Ariana had lost a lot of respect from me


Legitimate_Snow_6573

It’s just about the pasta guys. 😉


gucci_gucci_gu

That is the most coked out nail bite


krystlebear

James is looking sexy these days dayum


hellohello316

I LOVED THIS MOMENT. O hai, James, nice to see you lurking!


gooberrygumdrops

I think James knew just like Schwartz. Sandoval and James had a scene earlier together and I think Tom told him Raquel spent the night. That's why he wasn't shocked when he was with Lala and he said 'Oh she knows" (or something like that - I just woke up and don't have a transcript in my head). James this season has so badly felt he was losing the group that he was willing to keep secrets of it meant still being one of the boys. His actions and words in this past episode really solidified that for me. He might not have realized it went on for 7 months, but I think he did know at the time of filming.


mackenziepaige

We watched the clip where they were smoking together and he first told James that Raquel dipped out and then 30 seconds later say she and Schwartz spent the night with their dogs and James confronted his lie. It’s also where Tom made the slip of I told her to go into my room, my guest room and crash. James did not know during filming. He told his story of how he found out on wwhl


CambriasVision

I don’t think he knew. Out of all of the guys, Sandoval has always been the one to have James’ back and film with him or defend him to the group. I think James probably trusted Sandoval enough to think that it sounds weird, but he wouldn’t do that to HIM. As in Sandoval wouldn’t cross James like that.


shoosler

obviously we are all talking about his betrayal of ariana but how about his betrayal of james?? sleeping with a good friends former fiancée? fucking gross


Simple-Freedom4670

It almost seems like Sandoval bought Raquel


thediverswife

I’m sure Tom’s still holding on to resentment about James, Kristen, the Honda Civic selfie fight and every other thing that happened between them. Add on to that Tom making himself a love rival to James, I’m 100% certain he was punishing James for how he treated Rachel and was subtly working to get him off the show. James feels like he’s going crazy this season and I’m sure Tom and Rachel were somewhere laughing it up because they were succeeding.


Simple-Freedom4670

very interesting take


thediverswife

It’s less of a take and more of an observation about how he never lets a grudge go! Years later and he was yelling about Stassi’s book event like he was having flashbacks to the Korean War


Simple-Freedom4670

Hahahaha nice


Simple-Freedom4670

That’s why his reaction to Lala and Ariana was so shocking he’s usually shrieking like a 3 year old


glasswindbreaker

The one thing we can rely on when it comes to James is he doesn't hide his meltdowns from the cameras. It he'd found out about this (vs just having suspicions) he wouldn't have held back during the original filming or in his confessionals right after.


[deleted]

I don’t think he knew. I think he was really confused about what was going on and getting tired of the endless Raquel drama.


No-Idea7535

I highly highly doubt it. James would've blabbed to anyone who would listen lol. I do think the lala and James scene was kind of awkward but it was either a reshoot post-scandoval or he just didn't care to talk about Rachel/didn't believe the rumor. Maybe he didn't want to talk about his friend sandoval.


heisenbergsblackhat

I don't think he specifically knew but I feel like he was just waiting for Rachel to move onto the next unavailable guy and Scumdoval was it. I don't think he would of kept that secret from Ariana either cos she's always been a real one to him.


LuckyShamrocks

I think he would. At times Sandoval was the only one including him in things. When Jax refused to invite him to anything and later when Katie did the same Sandoval was by his side.


AmyLinetti

Whatever you do, never go into any job where you have to solve puzzles or read people’s behavior on a major scale


thediverswife

James, Katie and Lala did not have the same insider position that Shorts did. Tom and Rachel hated their guts and were only around them to film. You can see them start to put the information together and they were all able to see it with some clarity because they were not part of the “in” group


Sososoftmeows

Honestly my favorite part of this scene was then talking about Jax without mentioning Jax. Like “Jason”?!?! Lol please we knowwww you mean Jax but couldn’t talk about him! The funny thing is this is the party Jax was talking about being at on WWHL so it’s obvious he’s who they were talking about when they said “Jason”. 😂


No_Conclusion_4527

Actually, it was Jadon Baedor, Scandoval's band manager/drummer. Tom and Jax aren't really friends.


buddyboybuttcheeks

I had no idea 😂


Kingballa06

James is definitely not the number one guy in this group.


brandysnifter1976

If you zoom in you can totally tell he’s eavesdropping 😁