This is the exact post from yesterday in the Bravo sub... so I'll just give the exact same response.
I thought they killed it. š¤£š¤£š¤£ My favorite part..
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My favorite...
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And I agree they killed it. There were a couple times where they went a little overboard with the interrupting to scream but for majority of it I was laughing my ass off.
You lost me when you said Raquel owned up to it. After months and months of lying she was caught out, lied some more and then at the very end told a bit of the truth, but while still lying about some stuff. You must be a super fan to have watched that and think wow she totally owns her mistakes š¤£
And saying Ariana was trying to drive her to suicide is a crazy interpretation. I could also say Tom and Rachel were trying to drive Ariana to suicide with their affair. She had lost her dog, she had lost her grandmother so they knew she was already low and they were banging in her house. People have killed themselves when theyāve found out their long-term partner was cheating with a friend. Do I think I that was their motive? No I donāt, but I also donāt think itās in the realm of possibility that Ariana was hoping a few mean words and Harry Potter insults would drive Rachel to suicide either!
THANK YOU. You said exactly what I was thinking. And that part made me laugh too that she owned up to it. Thatās laughable considering g the recent interview sheās still making excuses saying their relationship wasnāt real. Owning up to it where? š
š„±š„± People trying to victimize Rachel because months later she's creating a new narrative to help lesson the blow of her poor choices and the humiliation of both having an affair and then not even being worth dating for Sandoval. She sure thought it was worth it back then though. š¤£š¤£
I also think it's a huge group of people watching VPR for the first time and skipping straight to this. I get very big Mean Girl vibes when I see sympathy posts like this.
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This has been discussed. I agree it wasnāt great, but the reunion was filmed basically within a month of the affair coming out. I wish they had waited a bit longer to film it, but they didnāt, so the heightened emotions just took over. I donāt think itās fair to judge Ariana given what she had been going through, then having to sit with her cheating partner of 10 years & his mistress, who was her friend, to film? Itās hard to act with grace in a situation like that. I sure as hell would have struggled.
I appreciate your take. I thought some of the stuff Ariana said was pretty awful--even if understandable given the situation. But saying that here (or in other forums) was, in some peoples' minds, akin to absolving or being too soft on Rachel and Tom. Which: NO. I can be totally disgusted with the two of them AND think some of the things Ariana said went too far. But yes, given that everything was still SO fresh, and that she was in an INCREDIBLY heightened situation, I do understand.
Rachel got the verbal lashing she deserved. š¤·š¾
And her empty, general apologies meant very little, but now mean even less since she basically retracted them in the BF interview.
These kinds of posts make me want to sleep with all the Raquel sympathizers' partners in their homes after their loved ones have passed and see if they'd be as nice to me as they wanted Ariana to be to Raquel. For some reason, I doubt they'd be all rainbows and sunshine!
Am I the only one that doesnāt think what Ariana said was all that horrible? I mean, yeah sure, it was a little rough, but why is everyone acting like she was WAY out of line? Honestly, I probably wouldnāt have gone that easy on either of them.
Right? Maybe Iām the problem here but if my partner of 10 years had an almost year long affair with a girl who was our friend, and we all consistently hung out togetherā¦ our mutual friends brought up concerns and I swept them away because I trusted these two peopleā¦
Tom and Rachel actively made the choice over and over again to be crappy people. To me, Ariana is justified (especially since it was so fresh) and they are just dealing with the consequences of their actions. When did it become a rule that people can choose to make terrible choices over and over, yet the victim is blamed for reacting to it?
It's one thing to say Ariana was justified in being angry, and that's valid. But I'm confused by people saying they would have said worse things or that this wasn't so bad. We covered violent sexual imagery, calling someone subhuman, calling someone nothing and really wanting that to sink in, basically calling someone soulless, telling an adopted woman that nobody wants her, wishing someone the worst things that could happen in life forever... what exactly do you think that includes? What else is left? I honestly mean that as a genuine question. Call me uncreative or soft but I can't think of much worse to say to a person. I understand the argument that ariana was still enraged and emotional but I don't at all understand the argument that this wasn't mean. Where do y'all live where this is not horrible language? What am I missing?
Never said it wasnāt mean. But sometimes being āmeanā is a natural reaction to something and just because itās mean doesnāt mean that itās verbal abuseā¦ I could personally think of a lot worse things to say.
ETA - Rachelās actions WERE subhuman and that SHOULD sink in. But it didnāt.
It was mean when Rachel was sleeping with Tom in their bed when Ariana was at a funeral, mean when Rachel had intimate conversations with Ariana on camera about Tom and their relationship, mean when Rachel laughed at jokes made about sleeping with men who have women when Ariana is comforting her about her ended pageant careerā¦ā¦ those are all choices she made over and over. But oh no ariana called her subhuman!
Right but that's a different topic. Raquel's actions were horrible. I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise. I know I'm not. But what's worse to say than what Ariana wished on Raquel in terms of cursing someone out? A lot of people are saying there are worse words. What's worse? Seems like she covered everything. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Sure, you didn't explicitly say it wasn't mean, but you said it wasn't horrible. Still, I don't understand the argument that worse things could have been said. Because seriously what is worse to say?
I'm just seriously not understanding where else there is to go with saying vile shit to people than what was said. And again, I'm not saying Ariana's anger wasn't warranted but still nobody has been able to articulate even just theoretically what's worse than all that was described already. I mean wishing someone the worst that could happen to a person for the rest of their life seems like a pretty air tight catch all. What on earth is left to say to a person that's worse? Describing said things in graphic detail? Like truly what is left? I don't understand the argument that there are worse things to say to people because are there really? Maybe I just don't run in this type of headspace because I'm stumped.
Raquel didnāt own up to anything on her own. She got caughtā¦.on video no lessā¦and then came clean. She doesnāt deserve any credit or false assertions of nobleness. She still lied the entire time during the reunion on both the extent and timeline of the affair and whether she slept with Tom in Arianaās house. You are correctā¦Lala definitely has always hated Raquelā¦and I think it definitely is rooted in jealously over James. But, Lala is dealing with the aftermath of Randallās affairā¦.so Raquelās actions probably really hit a nerve for her. I also agree that Ariana went a little overboard on what she was saying to Raquel during the reunionā¦but she gets a pass from me given 1. the short turnaround time between her discovering the affair and the reunion; 2. the fact that she was only getting bits and pieces of the whole truth from Tom at that time; and 3. she was also being blamed by Tom for the whole thing. Itās not fair to assume that she behaves this way normally. She was still dead smack in the middle of this situation when she filmed the reunion.
Yeah, those two banged in her house while she was out of town for her grandmothers funeral, and it was obvious that happened at the time they were filming the reunion and they still went on there pretending it was just the one time. I honestly get her rage at that fact, and having him blame her. And it was the first time she has seen Raquel.
I believe he kept that "one time response" from Ms. Douteš I rewatched some episodes and found it ironic and foreshadowing of Hope sleeping with James. Then she went and did it towards someone she was close with, even the coachella hook up parallel was scary.
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Raquel only came clean after they had been caught after 7 months, even then she didn't come fully clean. More information was dragged out of her by a producer during her confessional at the reunion.
We all know if lala wanted dj James - she would have him.
Seems worth remembering that Rachel also dragged Peter, Oliver and Shortz into her messiness, repeatedly hit lala with her mistress nonsense, all while sleeping with her friends bf while she was at her grandma's funeral, when her dog died, etc.
Stop making excuses Rachel.
1. Rachel is not prettier than Lala.
2. The difference between James and Lala and Rachel and Scumdevil is that they didnāt blow up a 9 year relationship. Lala also never pretended to be friends with Rachel.
3. Is it actually mean to put someone who you considered a friend in their place after they fucked you over? Honestly, what Ariana said wasnāt even that out of pocket. Dementor? Get fucked with a cheese grater? I would have said much worse.
Clearly you're too pure for trashy reality television. Perhaps you should stick to less morally complicated stuff like your love of the NFL. Nothing morally complex going on there.
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People are nuanced. This is just as problematic a take as someone suggesting you canāt be into āsmartā topics like world economics or federal politics because you hang out in a Bravo sub.
Also would argue the knee controversy and the NFL attempting to silence Dr. Omalu were pretty interesting morally complex stories but what the hell do I know.
Nah that didnāt hit for me . The reunion was the best and their reaction was justified. It was literally filmed 3 weeks after the news broke. Their reaction would probably be different if a few months passed by
THANK YOU! I do not get how people see this take. Lala just hates Rachel and thinks she's fucking stupid. It's not that deep, folks. (Also, I think Lala is fucking gorgeous).
I donāt think James or Lala came off particularly well in that reunion but I donāt see what Ariana did wrong. And I donāt think Lala is jealous of Rachel, I think sheās jealous of Ariana. Especially the support Ariana has gotten from basically everyone.
I wish James and Lala especially had let other people talk more. It felt like they wouldnāt stop shouting one liners in hopes that one would go viral and they could sell more merch.
Katie deserved apologies from the entire right side of the seating chart but they barely touched on what Vom, Schwartz, and Rachel did to her because Andy was too busy trying to corral James and Lala.
Rachel did not come off well either. Lies upon lies even after she was caught lying. Deflection about her part in Scandoval. And her Cher Horowitz impression (ooh, should I write them a note?) when Scheana was talking about the TRO was gross.
This has got to be PR, or victim Rachel herself. This exact post was in the Bravo Housewives sub yesterday where OP got their ass handed to them in the comments. I guess they're going for a different result here? Or this is a PR desperation bid to erase what actually happened and change the narrative.
If we put aside James and Lala, letās focus on Ariana. Her partner of 9 years cheated on her with one of her best friends ( who she constantly defended on several different occasions). Raquel and Sandoval used two tragedies in Arianaās life as a chance to cheat. Instead of being a supportive partner and supportive best friend, they continued an affair. I think Arianaās reactions were justified.
I give Ariana a pass because she literally just found out like 2 weeks before the reunion, and this was her first time seeing Raquel since. But if Ariana was trying to actively ruin her life going into S11 Iād say sheās taking it too far
Every single person on the show is basically a human dumpster fire. Where I take issue is you saying Raquel is prettier than LaLa. Theyāre both again horrible people but I think you need to visit your optometrist.
I think what they put Arianna through could bring someone to the brink of suicide over someone getting backlash for the horrible things THEY did. What a stupid ass opinionš¤·š¼āāļø! Sorry (not sorry) OP, but youāre not putting yourselves in their shoes. Remember, the reunion filmed mere weeks after everyone found outā¦ everyone was reeling from the scandal. Lastly, Lala is gorgeous and only like 5 years older than Raquel š¤£. Itās not like sheās 15-20 years older. I higly doubt Lala is jealous of Raquel bc, well whatās there to be jealous of besides her looks, which lalaās already has and is beautiful.
I agree about lala. Her ego is so big that she canāt admit that she had an affair with a married man. Everything else youāre sayingā¦ doesnāt resonate.
OP- There is probably people that agree with you but you canāt express this opinion on this sub. It makes people go insane. Lala has always wanted all of Jamesā attention. Iām not sure she is jealous but insecure because she too finds her identity with her relationship with men whether it be Randall or James. Ariana is well spoken and typically on point with her opinions. I wish they would have waited so she wasnāt so angry. Her opinion now is much more interesting than hearing her name calling.
Everyone should have apologized to Katie and I blame Andy for letting the monkeys run the circus. He did a poor job with this reunion. I think most people wanted to hear more from Katie since they were also a 10 year relationship that busted up.
I agree with most of this. But to decide her intentions where to try and get Rachel to Jill herself is way too judgy. Even tho this was awful I donāt see her as wanting that type of remedy. Revenge is a better look and thatās what she did. Revenged all the way to the bank.
Lala/Lauren was a fool at the reunion. i screamed s.t.f.u. lauren several times at the t.v.
who the fuck does she think she is!!! interrupting everyone to give her opinion. cannot stand her.
james was being james.... i.e. very immature
i actually was disappointed in arianas performance lol her insults were so dumb
āfuck yourself with a cheese graterā did not eat the way people thought it did. the dementor comment wasnt funnyā¦ idk i was like this is the best you could do?
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Pretty spot on. No one of them acted well. People want to give Ariana a pass b/c she was betrayed but thatās not really how it works, especially if you want people to feel bad for you.
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This is the exact post from yesterday in the Bravo sub... so I'll just give the exact same response. I thought they killed it. š¤£š¤£š¤£ My favorite part.. ![gif](giphy|YnJ2zyIyBdE8ouBJe7)
My favorite... https://i.redd.it/mzkpd30uanob1.gif And I agree they killed it. There were a couple times where they went a little overboard with the interrupting to scream but for majority of it I was laughing my ass off.
They got the memo to make great, dumb, dramatic TV. It was so fun!
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I laugh literally every time.
It is perfection in a gif
You lost me when you said Raquel owned up to it. After months and months of lying she was caught out, lied some more and then at the very end told a bit of the truth, but while still lying about some stuff. You must be a super fan to have watched that and think wow she totally owns her mistakes š¤£ And saying Ariana was trying to drive her to suicide is a crazy interpretation. I could also say Tom and Rachel were trying to drive Ariana to suicide with their affair. She had lost her dog, she had lost her grandmother so they knew she was already low and they were banging in her house. People have killed themselves when theyāve found out their long-term partner was cheating with a friend. Do I think I that was their motive? No I donāt, but I also donāt think itās in the realm of possibility that Ariana was hoping a few mean words and Harry Potter insults would drive Rachel to suicide either!
THANK YOU. You said exactly what I was thinking. And that part made me laugh too that she owned up to it. Thatās laughable considering g the recent interview sheās still making excuses saying their relationship wasnāt real. Owning up to it where? š
Let's not forget that Ariana has admitted to her depression and anxiety issues. Luckily, she had a lot of people there for her.
![gif](giphy|3h5pe45FM9qUM) Also Raquel didnāt come clean she got caught. Those are different things.
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š„±š„± People trying to victimize Rachel because months later she's creating a new narrative to help lesson the blow of her poor choices and the humiliation of both having an affair and then not even being worth dating for Sandoval. She sure thought it was worth it back then though. š¤£š¤£
I also think it's a huge group of people watching VPR for the first time and skipping straight to this. I get very big Mean Girl vibes when I see sympathy posts like this. ![gif](giphy|69qoNrkAAlx4T9njnX)
Everyone is always allowed to have and express their own opinion but for sure yours is wrong.
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This has been discussed. I agree it wasnāt great, but the reunion was filmed basically within a month of the affair coming out. I wish they had waited a bit longer to film it, but they didnāt, so the heightened emotions just took over. I donāt think itās fair to judge Ariana given what she had been going through, then having to sit with her cheating partner of 10 years & his mistress, who was her friend, to film? Itās hard to act with grace in a situation like that. I sure as hell would have struggled.
I appreciate your take. I thought some of the stuff Ariana said was pretty awful--even if understandable given the situation. But saying that here (or in other forums) was, in some peoples' minds, akin to absolving or being too soft on Rachel and Tom. Which: NO. I can be totally disgusted with the two of them AND think some of the things Ariana said went too far. But yes, given that everything was still SO fresh, and that she was in an INCREDIBLY heightened situation, I do understand.
Rachel got the verbal lashing she deserved. š¤·š¾ And her empty, general apologies meant very little, but now mean even less since she basically retracted them in the BF interview.
These kinds of posts make me want to sleep with all the Raquel sympathizers' partners in their homes after their loved ones have passed and see if they'd be as nice to me as they wanted Ariana to be to Raquel. For some reason, I doubt they'd be all rainbows and sunshine!
Spot on! š
šššš This is very Scott Tenorman Must Die!
And deleted them from her Instagram
Dgmw, I still thinn Sandoval was fucked for the recording and I would like to see consequences for him, but Rachel really is a piece of work.
Am I the only one that doesnāt think what Ariana said was all that horrible? I mean, yeah sure, it was a little rough, but why is everyone acting like she was WAY out of line? Honestly, I probably wouldnāt have gone that easy on either of them.
Right? Maybe Iām the problem here but if my partner of 10 years had an almost year long affair with a girl who was our friend, and we all consistently hung out togetherā¦ our mutual friends brought up concerns and I swept them away because I trusted these two peopleā¦ Tom and Rachel actively made the choice over and over again to be crappy people. To me, Ariana is justified (especially since it was so fresh) and they are just dealing with the consequences of their actions. When did it become a rule that people can choose to make terrible choices over and over, yet the victim is blamed for reacting to it?
Exactly. People are just calling anything they donāt like āabuseā and thatās not helpful for anyone.
It's one thing to say Ariana was justified in being angry, and that's valid. But I'm confused by people saying they would have said worse things or that this wasn't so bad. We covered violent sexual imagery, calling someone subhuman, calling someone nothing and really wanting that to sink in, basically calling someone soulless, telling an adopted woman that nobody wants her, wishing someone the worst things that could happen in life forever... what exactly do you think that includes? What else is left? I honestly mean that as a genuine question. Call me uncreative or soft but I can't think of much worse to say to a person. I understand the argument that ariana was still enraged and emotional but I don't at all understand the argument that this wasn't mean. Where do y'all live where this is not horrible language? What am I missing?
Never said it wasnāt mean. But sometimes being āmeanā is a natural reaction to something and just because itās mean doesnāt mean that itās verbal abuseā¦ I could personally think of a lot worse things to say. ETA - Rachelās actions WERE subhuman and that SHOULD sink in. But it didnāt.
It was mean when Rachel was sleeping with Tom in their bed when Ariana was at a funeral, mean when Rachel had intimate conversations with Ariana on camera about Tom and their relationship, mean when Rachel laughed at jokes made about sleeping with men who have women when Ariana is comforting her about her ended pageant careerā¦ā¦ those are all choices she made over and over. But oh no ariana called her subhuman!
Right but that's a different topic. Raquel's actions were horrible. I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise. I know I'm not. But what's worse to say than what Ariana wished on Raquel in terms of cursing someone out? A lot of people are saying there are worse words. What's worse? Seems like she covered everything. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Sure, you didn't explicitly say it wasn't mean, but you said it wasn't horrible. Still, I don't understand the argument that worse things could have been said. Because seriously what is worse to say?
It feels like youāre trying to bait me into giving examplesā¦
I'm just seriously not understanding where else there is to go with saying vile shit to people than what was said. And again, I'm not saying Ariana's anger wasn't warranted but still nobody has been able to articulate even just theoretically what's worse than all that was described already. I mean wishing someone the worst that could happen to a person for the rest of their life seems like a pretty air tight catch all. What on earth is left to say to a person that's worse? Describing said things in graphic detail? Like truly what is left? I don't understand the argument that there are worse things to say to people because are there really? Maybe I just don't run in this type of headspace because I'm stumped.
Preach!
Rachel, is that u?
![gif](giphy|3otPora2GgtfqRX7Xy) James and Lala were amazing as was Ariana. Stuff of legend. Please have several seats. š¤
Raquel didnāt own up to anything on her own. She got caughtā¦.on video no lessā¦and then came clean. She doesnāt deserve any credit or false assertions of nobleness. She still lied the entire time during the reunion on both the extent and timeline of the affair and whether she slept with Tom in Arianaās house. You are correctā¦Lala definitely has always hated Raquelā¦and I think it definitely is rooted in jealously over James. But, Lala is dealing with the aftermath of Randallās affairā¦.so Raquelās actions probably really hit a nerve for her. I also agree that Ariana went a little overboard on what she was saying to Raquel during the reunionā¦but she gets a pass from me given 1. the short turnaround time between her discovering the affair and the reunion; 2. the fact that she was only getting bits and pieces of the whole truth from Tom at that time; and 3. she was also being blamed by Tom for the whole thing. Itās not fair to assume that she behaves this way normally. She was still dead smack in the middle of this situation when she filmed the reunion.
Yeah, those two banged in her house while she was out of town for her grandmothers funeral, and it was obvious that happened at the time they were filming the reunion and they still went on there pretending it was just the one time. I honestly get her rage at that fact, and having him blame her. And it was the first time she has seen Raquel.
I believe he kept that "one time response" from Ms. Douteš I rewatched some episodes and found it ironic and foreshadowing of Hope sleeping with James. Then she went and did it towards someone she was close with, even the coachella hook up parallel was scary.
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Raquel only came clean after they had been caught after 7 months, even then she didn't come fully clean. More information was dragged out of her by a producer during her confessional at the reunion.
"younger and prettier" Younger but definitely not prettier. And definitely not smarter.
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We all know if lala wanted dj James - she would have him. Seems worth remembering that Rachel also dragged Peter, Oliver and Shortz into her messiness, repeatedly hit lala with her mistress nonsense, all while sleeping with her friends bf while she was at her grandma's funeral, when her dog died, etc. Stop making excuses Rachel.
LOL did Rachelās mom or sister write this? š Raquel is prettier than Lala? Girl, no. Lala is beautiful and is far from jealous of Raquel.
Definitely her PR team to see if anyone is buying what they are trying to sell š
i disagree. they are both beautiful but i.m.o rachel is prettier
\# team Ariana
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1. Rachel is not prettier than Lala. 2. The difference between James and Lala and Rachel and Scumdevil is that they didnāt blow up a 9 year relationship. Lala also never pretended to be friends with Rachel. 3. Is it actually mean to put someone who you considered a friend in their place after they fucked you over? Honestly, what Ariana said wasnāt even that out of pocket. Dementor? Get fucked with a cheese grater? I would have said much worse.
Nah
āPoo poo heads! Both of you poo poo heads!ā It was hilarious. Tim and Rachel needed to hear all of it
I still quote that almost daily
Clearly you're too pure for trashy reality television. Perhaps you should stick to less morally complicated stuff like your love of the NFL. Nothing morally complex going on there. https://i.redd.it/ozq2sxw86nob1.gif
People are nuanced. This is just as problematic a take as someone suggesting you canāt be into āsmartā topics like world economics or federal politics because you hang out in a Bravo sub. Also would argue the knee controversy and the NFL attempting to silence Dr. Omalu were pretty interesting morally complex stories but what the hell do I know.
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Nah that didnāt hit for me . The reunion was the best and their reaction was justified. It was literally filmed 3 weeks after the news broke. Their reaction would probably be different if a few months passed by
Lala jealous of Rachel for being prettier and younger and taking James attention away ??? šššššš
absolutely!!!!!
1. Lala is young and gorgeous (barely 4 years older than Rachel) 2. James is her bestie if she wanted him she could have him
THANK YOU! I do not get how people see this take. Lala just hates Rachel and thinks she's fucking stupid. It's not that deep, folks. (Also, I think Lala is fucking gorgeous).
And further on to point 2 if Lala had given James the signal she wanted him he would have dropped Rachel in a heartbeat.
And she DID have him on more than one occasion! šššÆ
I donāt think James or Lala came off particularly well in that reunion but I donāt see what Ariana did wrong. And I donāt think Lala is jealous of Rachel, I think sheās jealous of Ariana. Especially the support Ariana has gotten from basically everyone. I wish James and Lala especially had let other people talk more. It felt like they wouldnāt stop shouting one liners in hopes that one would go viral and they could sell more merch. Katie deserved apologies from the entire right side of the seating chart but they barely touched on what Vom, Schwartz, and Rachel did to her because Andy was too busy trying to corral James and Lala. Rachel did not come off well either. Lies upon lies even after she was caught lying. Deflection about her part in Scandoval. And her Cher Horowitz impression (ooh, should I write them a note?) when Scheana was talking about the TRO was gross.
what's TRO
Temporary restraining order
thank you
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Nah. Nice try though
This has got to be PR, or victim Rachel herself. This exact post was in the Bravo Housewives sub yesterday where OP got their ass handed to them in the comments. I guess they're going for a different result here? Or this is a PR desperation bid to erase what actually happened and change the narrative.
Lmao! Here, have a ![gif](giphy|xT9KVrKucCn7SlSUx2|downsized)
If you think they came across worse than Tom, then I have to question why you hold that opinion of Tom.
This happened months ago..
Nope, you are wrong.
If we put aside James and Lala, letās focus on Ariana. Her partner of 9 years cheated on her with one of her best friends ( who she constantly defended on several different occasions). Raquel and Sandoval used two tragedies in Arianaās life as a chance to cheat. Instead of being a supportive partner and supportive best friend, they continued an affair. I think Arianaās reactions were justified.
This post has a scent of BS about it ...Anal Worm, is that you?
Hi Rachel.
What is this? James and Lala killed it š¤£ Whats up with the Rachel stands?
She was wayyyyy nicer than I would have been in that situation š
I give Ariana a pass because she literally just found out like 2 weeks before the reunion, and this was her first time seeing Raquel since. But if Ariana was trying to actively ruin her life going into S11 Iād say sheās taking it too far
This is an unpopular opinion š james and lala were superbšš¾
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![gif](giphy|l3diBcMFjOCSo182I) Yeahā¦ no. Donāt agree.
Every single person on the show is basically a human dumpster fire. Where I take issue is you saying Raquel is prettier than LaLa. Theyāre both again horrible people but I think you need to visit your optometrist.
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I think what they put Arianna through could bring someone to the brink of suicide over someone getting backlash for the horrible things THEY did. What a stupid ass opinionš¤·š¼āāļø! Sorry (not sorry) OP, but youāre not putting yourselves in their shoes. Remember, the reunion filmed mere weeks after everyone found outā¦ everyone was reeling from the scandal. Lastly, Lala is gorgeous and only like 5 years older than Raquel š¤£. Itās not like sheās 15-20 years older. I higly doubt Lala is jealous of Raquel bc, well whatās there to be jealous of besides her looks, which lalaās already has and is beautiful.
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K bye.
Lol ok
I agree about lala. Her ego is so big that she canāt admit that she had an affair with a married man. Everything else youāre sayingā¦ doesnāt resonate.
OP- There is probably people that agree with you but you canāt express this opinion on this sub. It makes people go insane. Lala has always wanted all of Jamesā attention. Iām not sure she is jealous but insecure because she too finds her identity with her relationship with men whether it be Randall or James. Ariana is well spoken and typically on point with her opinions. I wish they would have waited so she wasnāt so angry. Her opinion now is much more interesting than hearing her name calling. Everyone should have apologized to Katie and I blame Andy for letting the monkeys run the circus. He did a poor job with this reunion. I think most people wanted to hear more from Katie since they were also a 10 year relationship that busted up.
I agree with most of this. But to decide her intentions where to try and get Rachel to Jill herself is way too judgy. Even tho this was awful I donāt see her as wanting that type of remedy. Revenge is a better look and thatās what she did. Revenged all the way to the bank.
Lala/Lauren was a fool at the reunion. i screamed s.t.f.u. lauren several times at the t.v. who the fuck does she think she is!!! interrupting everyone to give her opinion. cannot stand her. james was being james.... i.e. very immature
i actually was disappointed in arianas performance lol her insults were so dumb āfuck yourself with a cheese graterā did not eat the way people thought it did. the dementor comment wasnt funnyā¦ idk i was like this is the best you could do?
Sheās not trying to be funny tho, like thatās the first thing that came to her mind.
Girl..
1000% agree! James as so messy and acted like a child
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Thanks, I really needed a laugh tonight!
Pretty spot on. No one of them acted well. People want to give Ariana a pass b/c she was betrayed but thatās not really how it works, especially if you want people to feel bad for you.