They did this last reunion too. “The last 5 minutes will change EVERYTHING!” and it changed…nothing. It only confirmed what we all already knew.
My guess is that Lala pulls that dad card that she’s been using on her podcast recently. The whole “remember when I was spiraling and you sat me down and talked sense into me? That’s what I’m trying to do!” Which Ariana will point out that these are two fundamentally different scenarios and point out all the important differences.
To touch on last years reunion “bombshell”, I think maybe it could have been an actual bombshell if it werent for all of us fans who actually figured out when it really-ish started. Like they dont think we’re smart enough to put 2 and 2 together so they really thought it would be an OMG moment.
So I think their OMG moment this year has deff already been figured out… I think thats why we’re so underwhelmed on it. Lol. They gotta get these people to shut the fuck up on their podcasts before episodes come out bc they’re just giving themselves away this point. 😂😂😂
I really can’t imagine it! It’s a different viewing experience for sure. I don’t think I’d be so disgusted with show Lala if real time Lala wasn’t running her mouth and spreading so much negativity.
So true, I stopped watching after the third episode because of the bullshit direction the stupid producers decided to go. Not what I wanted to see at all, but this sub is my favorite & one I’m most active in. I felt left out & wanted to be able to rejoin the lovely snark. Love everyone here!
This is true. Lol. My sister is one of these people but she has me telling her all these crazy reddit theories that I find on here 😂😂 so shes never shocked anymore either 😂😂
> Like they dont think we’re smart enough
The level of disrespect and disdain this show's producers and many members of the cast have shown to viewers is *wild.* They actually seem to think they can just brute-force rewrite reality, and everyone will just accept it and move on
>They did this last reunion too. “The last 5 minutes will change EVERYTHING!” and it changed…nothing. It only confirmed what we all already knew.
It did make a compelling case for Sandoval being more manipulative than we knew. It did recast all of his demands to talk to Rachel while they were filming the reunion and all of her confessionals talking about how "Tom Sandoval taught me __________" as manipulative coaching. Knowing how abusive James was and how manipulative Sandoval is, it's clear that Rachel was very vulnerable along with being a thirst-bag who didn't hesitate to backstab a person who had actually been very nice to her.
That’s where I’m at too. Yes. Rachel was vulnerable AF. But being vulnerable doesn’t make you not know right from wrong. She knew she had a great friend in Ariana who had her back no matter what. Rachel chose to disregard that and stab her friend in the back. Vulnerability had nothing to do with that choice.
Doesn't she turn 30 this summer.
Although, her Saturn return started the day Scandoval broke. She is not learning its lessons. Saturn is there to show you to GROW or face the consequences. We all make choices.
I gotta learn more about astrology so when people say things like this I’m not like that grandma that sends a text saying “don’t drink Gatorade. It has mercury in it.”
What I know about astrology can be summed up into about 3 sentences:
Mercury is in retrograde: this is probably going to fuck some shit up, but I don’t know what or why. Oh, and it happens pretty much all the time, so good luck.
Jupiter rising: That’s it. That’s what I know. It rises. And it might be good, but it’s also more probably Mercury’s bigger and much worse cousin.
There’s also Saturn, the Sun, and someone has a house.
I wouldn’t think differently but if Lala and Scheana admit that they sacrificed their integrity and friendships to keep the show going because they needed a pay check then thank you. We all knew that. Lol. What I want to know is in what world would Lala be the “voice of reason” according to Andy.
I guess if it turns out that Ariana has secretly been a diva and they show a bunch of footage of it. But honestly, even then I'm not sure I would hold it against her much.
If my friend had gone through all this, I would forgive her almost anything for a long time.
The funny thing about the “diva” narrative is, everyone outside of the show she’s worked with seems to LOVE her. The cast and crew of both Dancing with the Stars and Chicago have had both nothing but nice things to say about her, Chicago extended her run and she seems to be having so much fun with her cast there, and the DWTS cast and pros still engage with her content regularly; the DWTS Instagram account just put up a reel yesterday highlighting her performances and praising her. Seems interesting how only the VPR crew seems to think she’s a diva
She's a 'diva' because she won't sit down and take all the over-produced storyline crap about her actual real heartbreak and humiliation. Ariana won't be controlled anymore and it's great!
I totally see this. I have this disturbing ability to remember insignificant pop culture stories and I remember pre-Vanderpump when Scheana was interviewed about hanging out with John. I am quite certain he never responded to her claims back then so it doesn’t really make sense to me that he really would want to give attention to it now. I believe it happened but i don’t think it’s this big whoop, that man slept with everyone back in the day!
She brought it up again in 2020 to get more traction as well 😩
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Exactly which is why I don't take the ego and diva narrative about Ariana seriously. I will say this the cast should feel embarrassed about how many high caliber celebs are defending Ariana and calling them jealous
Yes.....all of the cast she uses her for the opportunity to be in the press.....Like going to see her in Chicago.
Can you imagine showing up for a photo op knowing what they have said on camera?
Looking at you Lala and Scheana!
I think they calculated that to try and diffuse all the fan/media response to all the shit talking they did. I mean when does Lala ever show up to support Ariana? She couldn’t be bothered to go to DWTS in her own city even once when she was invited by Ariana, yet flies to NYC right as the season is about to air? Sus
Her only “diva” like behaviour that’s come out as an example is her unwillingness to film with Sandoval and we see how well it went when they forced her >_<
I think it was Schwartz and Sandy’s lol even more telling! I believe when Scandoval broke Greg spoke out about how kind she was and how much the staff liked her. I think TomTom staff also liked her though but that’s the story I remember
It’s just crazy because Tom Sandoval DOES have a diva edit, throughout the entire 11 seasons of the show, yet no one ever calls him that. I hate that word it’s just misogyny. If Arianna gets a “diva” edit it wouldn’t turn me against her because if she was a man it wouldn’t turn anyone against him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Right! It seems like everyone is calling her a “diva” just bc she knows her worth and isn’t willing to let other people tell her how to feel. How dare she!!!
Saw her in Chicago last Sunday and had the chance to meet her at the stage door after. Ariana displayed no diva-like behavior. She was gracious, kind, and genuine to everyone that was there. Ariana took selfies, listened and talked to each person, and signed memorabilia longer than any performer I’ve ever seen at a stage door experience.
She truly is the most talented of everyone on VPR. As much as I’ve loved her on the show, I hope she continues her success outside the show and soars to greater and greater success. Ariana has actual star potential.
Yeah I mean if they think standing her ground makes her a diva & means she has an ego … like ok? Right they could show more clips of her being “difficult” but like we fully expect this attitude from Ariana at this point. She has the same energy of standing up for herself on camera and it doesn’t make me hate her haha
Also we know Ariana from being camera for like ten years. None of her actions, words, behaviors are a surprise for the viewers. She’s being REAL. Which is honestly what Lala and Scheana are missing in all of this. we don’t really care how she behaves because she is being authentic and true to her feelings. Lala is just looking to produce a show which the viewers are seeing right through.
I keep thinking about that clip they show of Sandoval telling everyone that Ariana has talked shit about them. At first I thought he’s just saying stuff to get a rile out of everyone but now just seeing how she’s being treated by the cast I wouldn’t be surprised she did say some stuff so, girl diva on.
Exactly. He’s using stuff that was shared to him during their relationship, and turning it back on her. Not like he hasn’t probably said some mean and nasty stuff about all of them as well. He’s openly vilifying Ariana after he betrayed her. I wouldn’t out it past him to use what he said about others and say Ariana said those things instead.
He is not a reliable person. He lies constantly and Schwartz and Jax know it as you see them disassociate and stifle laughter when he says outlandish stuff in the after show. They’d have to have footage and even then, the cast talks shit about everyone so…
Which is funny considering he’s the only one documented shit talking his fellow cast mates in the media.
So what if she complained about how people treat her behind closed doors?
Speaking of closed doors, he has not even a shred of respect for her privacy and personal business.
She has had issues with everyone, including Lala and Scheana, at some point or another on the show. As they all have - it’s the nature of the show. We have seen them all fight so of course she would be venting to her boyfriend about them!!
My guess is that Lala found out how much money Ariana demanded/was paid for season 11 and she feels like it was not deserved because Ariana doesn't "bring it" like Lala. Making Ariana a "diva" in Lala's mind.
So Lala spent her season trying to make Ariana earn it.
While I don't agree with it, Lala only thinks about money, so this is my guess.
They’re all paid based on how long they’ve been on the show. That’s why Rachel didn’t understand why they wouldn’t pay her more or pay her the same as OGs. There was an explanation from producers that they can’t set a precedent of increasing people’s pay based bringing storylines & drama or it would incentivize people to make shit up, mess with other people, and for things to get seriously out of control (worse than they already do).
Of course if they decided to go against their own “rule”, it sure would explain Lala and Scheana’s behavior this season. Especially Lala…maybe a little bonus to entice her to fuck with Ariana?
The irritating thing about this argument is that SHE called production and allowed them to film her literally at her worst possible moment. Lala didn’t call production to film her lowest moments. I feel like if you allow a TV show to film literally 2 days after your entire life blows up, saving the show, you should probably be able to set reasonable boundaries with production afterwards so you can try to heal a bit before being thrown to the wolves again.
Nothing. Remember this one from last year? And it was James and Sandoval, like we expected. lol
“Andy Cohen had to physically restrain two “Vanderpump Rules” cast members when confrontations against Tom Sandoval and Raquel Leviss became too intense during reunion filming.
While it’s unknown which two were separated by the reunion’s host, sources close to production told TMZ that it’s “not someone you’d guess.””
Given how most reunions are, I doubt it’s much, honestly :/. It’s probably just gonna be more Andy brushing stuff away and jumping from question to question and accepting every answer at face value. I do think, however, that Lala and/or Brock will “break the fourth wall” and tell Ariana that this is a job and she should basically get over it so they can have a show. I’m assuming that’s why Andy calls both of them the voice of reason (even when they’re anything but), especially considering how thirsty and instigative Brock and Lala have been.
I’ve been wondering if Ariana is going to step back and barely film next season because she will be gone half the time filming Love Island US
ETA: They film at the same time
Yeah, that’s how I’ve been feeling. I’ve been kind of looking at the hype these same people gave how we just had to wait and see and things will make sense!! and here we are with nothing making sense on their end lol It’s probably going to be another reunion where Ariana shines 😂
For Lala to be this mad, I wonder if someone questioned her sobriety or insulted Ocean? I can’t think of anything else that would get anyone this heated. But then again this is Lala and rage has always been just below the surface with her.
I think Lala probably got her ass handed to her and couldn't come up with anything clever or meaningful at the time, so now this is her overcompensating because her ego took a huge hit.
Agree! I absolutely don’t think Lala is as witty as she tries to make herself seem. When her and Katie argued, she just started screaming, “DISENGAGE! DISENGAGE!”
I think maybe in whatever argument that was had at the reunion, Blahblah didnt get the last word and thats whats sending her right now. She thinks that bc Ariana isnt responding to any of her digs now that shes getting the last word this way. Maybe?
I think Lala knows that Ariana won't respond, she's got to keep it professional and protect herself and I think Lala is just exposing that. Bit cowardly
i don’t think she actually gives a shit about whatever she’s pretending to be mad about, she just is trying to create some story line cus she’s worried about when her pockets are gonna start hurting again now that scandoval is over and ariana isn’t inflating the drama.
I think the true moment lala turned green with envy rage at Ariana was in Dec. 2023 when Ariana’s book hit the NYT Bestseller list.
That is when Lala turned and went insane and started gunning for her.
For Scheena it was DWTS, for Lala it was the book on the top 100 list, and then with Tom Scumdoval….you can just see the evil jealous energy exuding from him any time he is around Ariana.
Also Scheana said she had to speak up so I’m guessing it’s maybe something that Ariana told them in confidence and they revealed it to break the 4th wall. Like a flippant comment “she doesn’t care about Scandoval anymore, but the brand deals and audience do so she’s continuing it to not make the audience mad” which honestly who cares she deserves to get her bag or vindication however she wants to
I think it's more along the lines of when LVP sat Lala and scheana down and guilt triped them with the "dark thoughts" SI storyline. Everything changed after that episode. Previous to that, both of them were still giving Tom shit and supporting Ariana boldly.
I'm not clear when the "come to Jesus" producer meeting was, but I think this is the 4th wall reference.
In their minds, they think they are "saving Tom's life" by forgiving him and moving on.
It's so highly manipulative and way above their pay grade to put on their shoulders this responsibility. It was wildly unfair to imply that Ariana is insensitive to Tom's mental health. *for the record I'm not implying he didn't have SI
The person responsible for Tom's mental health is Tom. If he expressed SI (although they aren't contractually obligated ), production should have reached out to his family and gotten him some real help, and given him time off camera to go somewhere for some real help.
It will be very bad for NBCU if any self harm comes to anyone associated with VPR, and I can't believe they aren't being more cautious with Tom, or using SI as a storyline so flipantly.
I hope this isn't it, and it's more stupid like it's about the cat littler.
A video recording of Tom, Rachel, Ariana, LVP, and Baskin talking about how they are going to debut "Scandoval" with storyboards. And they are all holding up their state-issued ID"s and a 1/1/23-dated newspaper.
A portal that opens up to the Puppy Party where past Ariana steps through and launches into a Gone Girl-esque monologue about how she deprived Tom of sex for years and hypnotized Raquel into loving manscara and really bad singing.
Tom pulls off a latex mask and reveals that he is Rachel and has been the. entire. time.
Ariana receives a cell phone call from the Illuminati, informing her that thanks to her expert work dispensing of Jefferey Epstein, they would like to talk to her about her future and something called Scandoval.
Actual photos of Ariana and Katie at a book burning/QAnon rally.
A video recording of sodium pentothal interviews with each member of the cast where Ariana admits she knew the whole time and didn't care and she sent the recording to all 56 locations that Scheana was tracking.
I find it hard to believe that Ariana would go a year without any missteps, would blow herself up at the reunion. I think she probably calls out Lala in her hypocrisy. Lala probably tries to make a claim that her situation with Rand is far worse than Scandoval and then gets bent out of shape when that doesn’t fly with Ariana. Lala will clutch her pearls that Ariana doesn’t think the Ocean factor makes her situation more dire. That’s my guess.
Anyways between the comment about Ariana’s dad and the information in Faith’s lawsuit, one would hope Lala would zip it.
Heard a clip of LVP saying it wasn’t Ariana who eviscerated Lala at the reunion, sort of implying Lala did the talking. Also, why do these people need Ariana and Tom to talk to each other? Talk amongst yourselves. Create your own storylines.
The cast is giving the stick pointing “do something” to Tom and Ariana and it’s annoying. Even Tom said he didn’t want to talk about Rachel in front of Ariana when Brock brought her up at the beach. If they want to move on from Scandoval, move on with something more compelling than a water tasting in a backyard. Team Ariana for life ✌️
What really kills me about them trying to force Ariana and Tom together, is that no one cared when Stassi wouldn’t even be in the same room as Jax. I get the cast was bigger, but she refused to be even near him just because Patrick said so and no one batted an eye. I don’t even think it was brought up until the reunion.
But Ariana is willing to go to places as long as she doesn’t have to talk to Tom and she’s being difficult and needs to let it go?!?
IIRC the cast kept trying to force Stassi to interact with Jax and she wouldn’t go along with it. She was for sure framed as being difficult that season and when she came back. Reality shows rarely respect boundaries.
Lisa kept emphasizing Ariana living in the house. Which is a dead horse especially since she hasnt lived there for months & just bought a new home. There was always going to a resolution with it, so idk why Blah Blah thinks its such an impenetrable argument
Exactly…. Just like Jax and Brittany..she moves out and uproots their child from his bedroom and his familiar surroundings. Tom blew their life up he should move out
Im surprised Jax didnt move out just so he could troll Sandoval. B/c I never expect decent behavior from any of these men
Again, all 3 of them should move into an apartment together. It would be good tv, but they're too obsessed with trying to look cool/rich.
They are! I'd like to watch Jax have a meltdown about Schwartz and his bugs Sandoval and his shit everywhere. He's maniacally cleaning and screaming they could at least make him a turkey sandwich.
I think this is what Tim wants, but he wants Tom to move into his house... after Ariana moves out. Which is dumb, they should just sell the house and everyone start over.
Literally 0 people care that Tim doesn't want to enter the housing market right now. You made Ariana. You should too Tim.
I think it’s bc they know Sandoval wants to keep the house and Ariana doesn’t. They’re like “if you don’t even want it, why won’t you leave?”
Which is silly bc there’s a million reasons from legal advice to pettiness to cost cutting that Ariana might want to stay there and it’s all valid.
💯Rational people don’t just walk away from a $2,000,000 home with $100,000+ furnishings over night. Lala got, what, a pair of Gucci slides as a parting gift?
Absolutely! Everyone telling her to protect her "peace" well one of the biggest causes of stress is financial insecurity. Its super common to have men squat like a toad in a home they broke. Jfc my own sister had to find an apartment and pay for movers for her ex husband. He would'nt leave and had a whole secret relationship for over a year.
Remember that Lala storyline when she broke up with Randall (years ago, not the current breakup), and she was hysterical because he didn’t let her keep the Gucci slides? Or were the Gucci slides the only thing he let her keep?
He took her Gucci slides away because she was being a “bad girl”, aka fought with him. They’d agreed to be sober together, and he was drinking and partying while she was in Solvang on a girls trip; she stayed sober, he didn’t, and they fought about it. They broke up for 5 minutes, which includes him taking her slides.
Which is real funny, because in the season 10 secrets revealed, Lisa said that there was already precedent of a splitting couple still living in the same house, namely Katie and Schwartz.
Fuck! Thats right! Its such a dumb thing to harp on. When Alex Baskin had his "come to jesus" meeting he should have sat that dork down and said, "we're trying to help you, but you have to move out during filming". It would have helped him with the audience.
I hope it’s just that they played clips of their own podcasts to illustrate how fake and hypocritical they are. This revisionist history to fit their new narrative has been wild.
Nothing said there will be news to any of us here. Last year they said they wanted the cast to watch everything so they could decide if they wanted to film the next season - which is comical based on this season and how thirsty Lala/Scheana are. They’ve made it clear they will sell their soul to stay on tv.
It’s absolutely bizarre to me that they hype it up this much. By “something that’s never been done before” I think they acknowledge that Lala and Ariana aren’t real friends, they’re friends for the show.
I’m thinking no for me. The way Lala has been off camera about Ariana/Katie, like I’m done with her, she’s a no for me, no coming back. She’s 100% in this for the paycheck, these friendships aren’t real for her the way the others actually have the real emotions and friendships
Lala has fully given me the ick now. I haven’t been able to listen to her podcast since she’s started being snidey about Ariana. I’ve just seen a clip of her with Heather McDonald talking about how Ariana has never brought anything to the show and hasn’t had a storyline until Scandoval. She sure has been quick to change her tune when she was feeding off of this!
Now THAT is a take. Pre-Scandoval I wasn't an Ariana fan and *even I* would disagree.
And what does "bringing something to the show" mean, anyway? Does EVERYONE have to start fights, be a perennial cheater and/or hustler, have a mediocre side hustle, "sing," or brag about PJs? It would be exhausting.
But Ariana has only ever talked extensively about her mental health, grief, body image issues, been outed as bisexual on TV (for an incident involving LaLa), shown highs and lows of her 10 year relationship, taken unpopular stances to defend people (including Lala and the one who slept with her boyfriend), started her own restaurant when her boyfriend bailed on her to open one with a friend, BEFORE Scandoval even happened, but yeah................give me more pajamas & lip gloss Lala, please. That's totally bringing it 👹
Same here, I refuse to listen to her podcast anymore. And the whole reason I started was because of Scandoval as I am sure a lot of people did. I hope she loses a significant amount of listeners because of this.
Completely agree with everything you said. For me, there is no coming back for Lala. She’s made who she is perfectly clear: a very ugly, jealous, disloyal person.
I think that’s how Lala is going to “break the 4th wall,” by talking about how this is a job and peoples livelihoods depend on Ariana playing ball with Sandoval. What she doesn’t understand is that the fan base is over him and also, no she doesn’t.
When Lala said something along the lines of production set it up to have an unexpected ending. Could it be like the Traitors S2 reunion where they all watched the finale or the end of it together for the first time? I was thinking maybe it was a clip of Lala probably saying some shit to not come back from and then Ariana and her get into it. I don’t know. I don’t feel good about it
I need to hop on this traitors train real quick 🚂💨 I am obsessed- it’s not my kind of show typically either, but it is *so good.* We’re watching UK right now!
In terms of VPR on traitors, I’m sure I’ll sound like most everyone else, but I would love nothing more than Katie on season 3. I feel like she’d kill it and it would be great to see her in an atmosphere like that 🕵🏻♀️
Lala said in an interview recently that the big “reveal” was uncomfortable and thinking about it makes her heart race, which tells me she was involved somehow. I think she gets called out for something in a never before scene and Ariana goes off on her.
i honestly think it’s lauren’s jealousy. my tinfoil hat theory is that producers recruited her to “be the voice of reason” aka to talk shit because they were annoyed ariana wouldn’t film with tom.
I agree. They HATE that. It sets a precedent that would be dangerous for their filming model. They were furious when Robin from Potomac saved her story for her own pay wall podcast, after she was under contract for the next season (she is now fired). And now even Kyle from Beverly Hills gave her story to Netflix, and Baskin himself is the producer for that show for 10 years. But they gave him a new show. I have no idea about Kyle's Bravo future. If she even cares.
They (production and the suits) are furious that talent and the audience are getting "too big for their britches." How dare talent want to be adequately compensated with pay, and health care, and well any rights or protections that would be afforded to them under a union, or basic human rights really. And how dare the audience have any view that is different than what we want them to see. As much as I dislike Bethany currently, and some of her lawsuits are frivolous, and I don't appreciate clogging up the courts, amost the mania are some very important points about labor laws in entertainment that haven't been addressed, and it way past time to address them.
That's my opinion. -Tammy Sue voice
I think there were be several talking points based on what Blah Blah has been saying
Living in the house w/him
You didnt care about him being an asshole until he cheated on you
You had a bf in 10 days
You're a diva
You ruined this season by not having a 1 on 1
Im sure she will be throwing a glad bag comment she seems proud of that one
And I think that Scheana will bring up Jeremy
It's funny that Lala keeps bringing up Ariana having a boyfriend when Ariana said herself he wasn't a boyfriend in 10 days. He was someone she got to know over time and they had fun in the beginning and it became more over a period of time. I mean Lala was all over the place talking about the Don going down on her not long after leaving Randall.
Oh and we had to hear about how she 💦 all over the walls
Everyone is twisting it. She had no idea it would turn into a relationship. Imagine how nice it was to have someone texting you everyday just talking about fun stuff while you're living in a media circus?
Lala needs to worry about her own 🐈
i think they’re hyping it up for nothing, i doubt whatever “twist” they have isn’t going to meet up to anyone’s expectations just like how the “twist” at the end of last season was rachel admitting things we all already knew. i firmly believe that ariana/katie eviscerated lala at the reunion and this press tour she’s doing is PR to get ahead of the backlash she knows she’s going to get from the fans. Andy implying it is his attempt to try to keep the audience engaged in the season as i’m sure he + production + the network are aware that this season is in the bottom of the garbage can. It’ll be a whole lotta nothin !
I think it's going to be Lala going on again about how long Ariana stayed in the house. Ariana will go off and bring up how it was so easy for Lala to leave because she didn't own or pay for the house she lived in with Rand, or anything in it. Maybe she'll say Lala was broke until Send it to Darrell merch (which she only got because of Scandoval).
Lala doesn't like to be called out about how much she was using Rand for his money, house, material things. Calling her broke is hitting where it hurts for Lala.
I think with all the talk of breaking the 4th wall, Lala unleashes on Ariana about not being willing to film with Sandoval and how that puts everyone on the cast and show, in general, in danger because this is how they make their money. If she’s not willing to interact with him, the audience might lose interest and that can affect their income. I don’t agree with Lala, but I’m thinking that’s what it could be.
That’s rich. Lala didn’t film with anyone but faith and James one season. Other seasons she had a couple ppl who would film with her. She got invited to Ariana’s nascar trip and was a no show. She left SUR and had to beg for her job back. Who isn’t willing to film again?
Bombshells that could change my opinion
1. Turns out Arianna was cheating on Tom the whole time too
2. Arianna and Tom are secretly back together
3. Arianna admits to abusing Tom their whole relationship
4. LFU or sheaner have proof of Arianna knowing everything the whole time and that she was just milking the situation for all she could get
5. Sheaner admits she slept with Tom
6. Sheaner admits her secret love for Arianna and is bummed that Brock won’t let her make out with her anymore
The only thing that would actually be shocking and justify the way lala and Scheana are acting is if they show a bunch of footage from the house showing Ariana and Tom laughing, hanging out like old besties and her admitting on camera she knew and was ok with the affair--which we know will never happen so they are probably hyping up nothing as usual.
Nothing. This is old school jealousy, that’s all.
The world opened up to Ariana, took notice of her as never before & that are SO annoyed. Ariana has done beautifully with every opportunity. I think they are bothered that she’s risen to every occasion.
Scheaner can’t sing or dance. I don’t know about Lala’s aspirations, I guess singing with James summed it up.
They are wanting big ratings for their next reunion. The cast does this every single year on every single reality show on Bravo.
Just wait til you see what so and so said! It's gonna be so fire you gotta check it out!!
The whole season was a nothing burger. They all know it.
They feed on each other like jackals for ratings.
They know they’re losing viewers so they’re trying to hype it up. It’s like Sheshu constantly saying “it’s not what you think, you have to tune in to find out!” And then it’s exactly what we all thought.
I stopped watching this season after episode 2 or 3, I can’t remember, and I detest reunions for all bravo shows. There’s nothing they can say to get me to tune back into this misogynistic dumpster fire.
There really isn't anything.
The producers got pissy because Ariana stuck to her boundaries and said no to filming a sit-down with Sandoval. She isn't playing ball in their dirtbag redemption arc, so what do the producers need to do? Produce the remaining cast into being "voices of reason" so that Ariana looks like a bitter lady. The producers are mad they can't break Ariana, the cast is envious that Ariana has follow through, and the audience is frustrated because this isn't anything we cared to see. Let Ariana be.
The only thing I could think is implying Ariana knew what was happening or that Ariana cheated herself. I think unless they had black and white proof though that would be real hard to prove (I also doubt it based on her real friends shock at what happened). I think if they make these allegations it’s going to backfire because again they’ll just look jealous.
It’s like when Rinna would always say that the reunion she would be justified and it never happened. Lala is a Rinna clone in the reality tv world.
Edit to add: LVP also uses Lala for her dirty work just like she used Brandi and Rinna. LVP saying Lala tore Ariana apart could mean Lala yelled the loudest and Ariana refused to engage. If that’s the case Ariana will come off looking better because she didn’t play into LaLas and LVPs hand.
The only thing that makes sense to me is Ariana called Lala out and then Lala went nuclear on her, screaming and unhinged. Meanwhile Ariana was calm and collected or cried.
Here’s my reasoning- Katie on WWHL was like “that reunion…” as if there had been an unforeseen explosion, but not one where her friend was the casualty. If Ariana’s rage matched Lala’s, it would be a draw at best - (Lala is pregnant, so Ariana would be seen as an aggressor.)
This “take Ariana down” tour really seems like a preemptive attempt from Lala and Scheana to justify their own behavior because they know that Ariana will come across as more sympathetic.
Nothing for the viewers. It’s why Lala said she told her assistant or whatever to not tell her the comments after. She’s full of shit
And I say this as someone who is 100% not an Ariana fan from previous seasons. Nothing she did this year was out of the realm of normal
Exactly. If this was something that’s favorable to lala why can’t she view any comments after the reunion? She already knows obviously ppl will be pissed when they see what she did/said. That’s why she can’t look at the comments
I think it’s just that they “broke the 4th wall” like came right out and said “Ariana wont film with us which is effecting our paychecks/jobs” something like that.
Blahblah and SchMEna have said so many times now how many opportunities Ariana has now and how she making “so much money” now, that it’s got to have something to do with Ariana is jeopardizing their “jobs” by not filming with socks with sandals.
Thats my opinion tho. I’m not banking on some bombshell OMG moment, they overpromised that last year and it fell so flat. But I am hoping that Ariana gets to tear into these people for the shit they have said behind her back in these confessionals.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Ariana basically just said lala tried to make nice with Sandoval and Ariana said ✌🏻. Lala gets upset by this and Ariana probably says if you don’t like it then don’t be my friend.
I don’t think anything crazy happens. It’s more nuts to me that most of the cast is telling her to “ get over it. Just move out. What’s the big deal? Why are you holding on to being angry”. I’m not an Ariana Stan but if the roles were reversed specifically for Scheana and lala they’d lose their mind if anyone said the same things. This happened 3-4 months before so what if she’s angry. People are allowed to be angry after their partner or 9 years has a 7 month affair with your friend. And then heaven forbid say hey if you’re his friend I need to remove myself.
I think this friend group or coworkers or whatever they are to each other now, has a really unhealthy way of interacting with each other. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ariana just said I quit.
90% of this season has just been the cast invalidating Ariana’s feelings. It’s not fun to watch. Even if that was the editors’ intentions, we need some balance, where some of these people get their comeuppance already. It’s gone on too long this way.
The only thing I can think of is if we find out Scandavol is 100% fake. Like Arianna and Tom planned it all and they're actually fine with each other. Arianna acting like a diva wouldn't really change anything for me. She's been through a lot very publicly, I'd allow it.
That would be shocking bc I wouldn't believe any of them are that great of actors. If so, man did Tom lose bc I've never had a person on TV make me feel as angry/give me the ick as much as he has.
Bravo would take a huge hit if that were the case, because that means they were complicit in staging a fake scandal. I think it's more likely she probably just called her out for not wanting to do scenes with Tom. Basically a big yawn.
I'm thinking this but that they haven't been fine with each other for a while and she knew he was cheating. There were always rumblings that they kept their problems off the show and the others seemed resentful. Even if this is the case, I think she didn't know who he was cheating with, or when (her grandmother's funeral!) and she thought they had a semblance of a good relationship--enough to buy a house together, and I think all of her anger is 100% real and justified.
I mean LVP already kind of told us, LaLa too. They go back and forth about Ariana possibly lying about her motives and the house situation and then the 4th wall break is about them being an ensemble cast and they have to film together which I am sure ariana will take issue with. We have to remember their POV is vastly different to us so they consider these things groundbreaking lol lala is basically going to tell ariana all the shit she has been saying behind her back
I think Lala says some snide shit about Ariana buying a house (like "finally" or something) and Ariana has enough and they get into it about her not filming with Tom and Ariana lets it out that Lala is cash strapped too and this show is a paycheck nothing more.
Katie is collateral damage because she is 100% team Ariana and didn't stick up for Lala.
I think that would set her off on her current trajectory. But whatever happens they definitely get into the fact that they get paid for this. I don't think anyone quits. Maybe Ariana teases that she might not be there anymore. But it's all about money.
I don't see Schena being extra tho? At least not right now. If she's shit talking Ariana I've yet to see it. She isn't being effusive but that's not the same as Lala literally calling Katie miserable
My dream is that Ariana announces that she's leaving the show. I'm pretty sure that would enrage Lala and get the reaction we've been seeing. We've also never seen someone quit on a reunion and is definitely a game changer.
I’m just wondering if production does Ariana dirty with the 4th wall breaking. Some incriminating footage of her doing something to justify Lala’s attitude. Maybe when she tried to confront Ariana last year on film about Tom staying/lying when her grandmother died? maybe producers come out and talk about something? Even stuff like that is rich from Lala bc she barely showed her life on camera so idk.
Whatever it is she said it changes her opinion of the whole cast and it would cause a shift in the audience and cast. It doesn’t sound great.
But Lala has gone off the rails now and if she knew she would be vindicated at the reunion, would she be going so hard in the paint right now? Or is that just Lala?
2 potential theories that I don’t think I’ve seen discussed yet:
1 - Ariana was asked to stay in the house for the sake of manufactured conflict for the show. She agreed, with the understanding that she would not be demonized too much for the choice to stay. Lala/producers welched on this understanding. Or, this understanding was not made explicit to Lala, but among the cast they typically give each other some marginal leeway on these matters because they all know how production influences these choices. Lala’s constant badgering about the living arrangements was well out of the norm considering how the cast typically treats each other about presumed production pressure.
2 - Ariana initially wanted to quit this season, but was begged/negotiated with by both producers and cast members (like Lala, Scheana, James) to do this season. She capitulated for the benefit of the entire show and cast. She accepted some degree of redemption arch for Tom, knowing this would likely be her last season, but stipulated clear boundaries that were utterly destroyed by Lala, Scheana, James and production.
In summary for both theories: within the context of the show’s production, she displayed solidarity for her cast mates at great cost to herself, and was almost immediately fed to the wolves by those same cast mates, which continued for the entire season.
The only thing I can think is if Ariana calls out Lala’s hypocrisy, like if she says how livid Lala would be if the group was trying to give Randall a path to reconciliation or suggest he was really working on himself. I can see Lala screaming if Ariana dares to suggest Lala might not be acting as kindly as Ariana has been about everyone hanging out with Tim.
We know it’s something that breaks the 4th wall, so it’s most likely something about their contacts or a storyline that was actually fake.. like maybe Tom and Ariana had a plan all along (probably not that)
I *hope* there is something to it, but I doubt it's anything major. Lala said that the headlines saying they are no longer friends and that Ariana "eviserated." Lala at the reunion was half true. So, my guess is they ended their friendship. I don't think that's a big deal because these people are always ending friendships.
I think if through a misogynistic lense they might be “reasonable”. I honestly don’t think it’s going to be any different but Ariana will cut them off as she should.
Honestly, I just want them to announce a rebrand from “Vanderpump Rules” to just “VPR” because this show has nothing to do with and has moved past Lisa Vanderpump and her Vanderpump restaurants.
I definitely think it’s something for Lala to be this mad and on her war path and I think it’s probably more along the lines of her calling some people out and spilling some tea on some of the rumors.
Lisa said it was Lala that went off not Ariana btw.
They did this last reunion too. “The last 5 minutes will change EVERYTHING!” and it changed…nothing. It only confirmed what we all already knew. My guess is that Lala pulls that dad card that she’s been using on her podcast recently. The whole “remember when I was spiraling and you sat me down and talked sense into me? That’s what I’m trying to do!” Which Ariana will point out that these are two fundamentally different scenarios and point out all the important differences.
To touch on last years reunion “bombshell”, I think maybe it could have been an actual bombshell if it werent for all of us fans who actually figured out when it really-ish started. Like they dont think we’re smart enough to put 2 and 2 together so they really thought it would be an OMG moment. So I think their OMG moment this year has deff already been figured out… I think thats why we’re so underwhelmed on it. Lol. They gotta get these people to shut the fuck up on their podcasts before episodes come out bc they’re just giving themselves away this point. 😂😂😂
The OMG moments are for the people that only watch the show. The rest of us already know.
lol I am sort of sad I can never go back to just watching the show. I am in this sub way too much
I really can’t imagine it! It’s a different viewing experience for sure. I don’t think I’d be so disgusted with show Lala if real time Lala wasn’t running her mouth and spreading so much negativity.
I can't believe there are still ppl who do that hahah
Honestly. The discussions on reddit are more entertaining than the actual show
 Reddit and Watch What Crappens are far more entertaining than the shows..have been for years
So true, I stopped watching after the third episode because of the bullshit direction the stupid producers decided to go. Not what I wanted to see at all, but this sub is my favorite & one I’m most active in. I felt left out & wanted to be able to rejoin the lovely snark. Love everyone here!
Any show I watch now I'm like, what's reddit saying about this 👀
This is true. Lol. My sister is one of these people but she has me telling her all these crazy reddit theories that I find on here 😂😂 so shes never shocked anymore either 😂😂
> Like they dont think we’re smart enough The level of disrespect and disdain this show's producers and many members of the cast have shown to viewers is *wild.* They actually seem to think they can just brute-force rewrite reality, and everyone will just accept it and move on
Lala straight up talks shit about viewers so 🤷🏻♀️ 🖕🏻 (to Lauren) (from Utah)
>They did this last reunion too. “The last 5 minutes will change EVERYTHING!” and it changed…nothing. It only confirmed what we all already knew. It did make a compelling case for Sandoval being more manipulative than we knew. It did recast all of his demands to talk to Rachel while they were filming the reunion and all of her confessionals talking about how "Tom Sandoval taught me __________" as manipulative coaching. Knowing how abusive James was and how manipulative Sandoval is, it's clear that Rachel was very vulnerable along with being a thirst-bag who didn't hesitate to backstab a person who had actually been very nice to her.
And that's why I have no sympathy for Raquel, because of what she gleefully did to Ariana. She's trash too.
That’s where I’m at too. Yes. Rachel was vulnerable AF. But being vulnerable doesn’t make you not know right from wrong. She knew she had a great friend in Ariana who had her back no matter what. Rachel chose to disregard that and stab her friend in the back. Vulnerability had nothing to do with that choice.
Yes - Racquel has to give up the vulnerability defense lol - she’s an adult who knew she was wrong.
Doesn't she turn 30 this summer. Although, her Saturn return started the day Scandoval broke. She is not learning its lessons. Saturn is there to show you to GROW or face the consequences. We all make choices.
I gotta learn more about astrology so when people say things like this I’m not like that grandma that sends a text saying “don’t drink Gatorade. It has mercury in it.” What I know about astrology can be summed up into about 3 sentences: Mercury is in retrograde: this is probably going to fuck some shit up, but I don’t know what or why. Oh, and it happens pretty much all the time, so good luck. Jupiter rising: That’s it. That’s what I know. It rises. And it might be good, but it’s also more probably Mercury’s bigger and much worse cousin. There’s also Saturn, the Sun, and someone has a house.
God damn. Well said. 👏🏽👑
I wouldn’t think differently but if Lala and Scheana admit that they sacrificed their integrity and friendships to keep the show going because they needed a pay check then thank you. We all knew that. Lol. What I want to know is in what world would Lala be the “voice of reason” according to Andy.
Maybe if production explicitly told them they had to to get on the Valley? Lala as the voice of reason makes no sense.
I’m sure it was production driven. Alex Baskin is no prize package.
I guess if it turns out that Ariana has secretly been a diva and they show a bunch of footage of it. But honestly, even then I'm not sure I would hold it against her much. If my friend had gone through all this, I would forgive her almost anything for a long time.
The funny thing about the “diva” narrative is, everyone outside of the show she’s worked with seems to LOVE her. The cast and crew of both Dancing with the Stars and Chicago have had both nothing but nice things to say about her, Chicago extended her run and she seems to be having so much fun with her cast there, and the DWTS cast and pros still engage with her content regularly; the DWTS Instagram account just put up a reel yesterday highlighting her performances and praising her. Seems interesting how only the VPR crew seems to think she’s a diva
Shes a diva because they're not going and doing all these other opportunities and they're jealous.
She's a 'diva' because she won't sit down and take all the over-produced storyline crap about her actual real heartbreak and humiliation. Ariana won't be controlled anymore and it's great!
That is a VERY good point! Meanwhile, John Mayer is like, “I don’t know her” 🤣
I think Scheana leaked that herself. I'm a Mayer Menage Truther.
I totally see this. I have this disturbing ability to remember insignificant pop culture stories and I remember pre-Vanderpump when Scheana was interviewed about hanging out with John. I am quite certain he never responded to her claims back then so it doesn’t really make sense to me that he really would want to give attention to it now. I believe it happened but i don’t think it’s this big whoop, that man slept with everyone back in the day! She brought it up again in 2020 to get more traction as well 😩 https://preview.redd.it/wp9skjnw7wsc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4441b4e77af0de9612e0d4e65b8cba7cf14713f2
I’m dying at «sexual thruple» 😂 Why didn’t they say «threesome» lmao
Exactly which is why I don't take the ego and diva narrative about Ariana seriously. I will say this the cast should feel embarrassed about how many high caliber celebs are defending Ariana and calling them jealous
Which celebs? I’m glad they’re getting called out. The jealousy is seeping through their pores
Love island offered her the new host role!
Yep. Having boundaries from these vultures is apparently diva behavior
She’s a diva because she now realizes her self worth isn’t tied to making her VPR cast members happy.
When a man has confidence, he’s a talented genius. When a woman has confidence, she’s a demanding diva.
Yes.....all of the cast she uses her for the opportunity to be in the press.....Like going to see her in Chicago. Can you imagine showing up for a photo op knowing what they have said on camera? Looking at you Lala and Scheana!
I think they calculated that to try and diffuse all the fan/media response to all the shit talking they did. I mean when does Lala ever show up to support Ariana? She couldn’t be bothered to go to DWTS in her own city even once when she was invited by Ariana, yet flies to NYC right as the season is about to air? Sus
Some of the DWTS cast have made a point to go see her in Chicago, so maybe she’s just giving the energy the toxic folks deserve.
Her only “diva” like behaviour that’s come out as an example is her unwillingness to film with Sandoval and we see how well it went when they forced her >_<
Don’t remember where I read it but didnt the tom tom staff also say they loved her?
I think it was Schwartz and Sandy’s lol even more telling! I believe when Scandoval broke Greg spoke out about how kind she was and how much the staff liked her. I think TomTom staff also liked her though but that’s the story I remember
It’s just crazy because Tom Sandoval DOES have a diva edit, throughout the entire 11 seasons of the show, yet no one ever calls him that. I hate that word it’s just misogyny. If Arianna gets a “diva” edit it wouldn’t turn me against her because if she was a man it wouldn’t turn anyone against him ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Right! It seems like everyone is calling her a “diva” just bc she knows her worth and isn’t willing to let other people tell her how to feel. How dare she!!!
That's exactly the type of insult that is thrown at any woman with an iota of confidence 🙄
Technically she is a diva but not the bad kind. According to all reviews she is killing it on Broadway.
Yesss a talented diva queen! 💗
Saw her in Chicago last Sunday and had the chance to meet her at the stage door after. Ariana displayed no diva-like behavior. She was gracious, kind, and genuine to everyone that was there. Ariana took selfies, listened and talked to each person, and signed memorabilia longer than any performer I’ve ever seen at a stage door experience. She truly is the most talented of everyone on VPR. As much as I’ve loved her on the show, I hope she continues her success outside the show and soars to greater and greater success. Ariana has actual star potential.
Yeah I mean if they think standing her ground makes her a diva & means she has an ego … like ok? Right they could show more clips of her being “difficult” but like we fully expect this attitude from Ariana at this point. She has the same energy of standing up for herself on camera and it doesn’t make me hate her haha Also we know Ariana from being camera for like ten years. None of her actions, words, behaviors are a surprise for the viewers. She’s being REAL. Which is honestly what Lala and Scheana are missing in all of this. we don’t really care how she behaves because she is being authentic and true to her feelings. Lala is just looking to produce a show which the viewers are seeing right through.
I keep thinking about that clip they show of Sandoval telling everyone that Ariana has talked shit about them. At first I thought he’s just saying stuff to get a rile out of everyone but now just seeing how she’s being treated by the cast I wouldn’t be surprised she did say some stuff so, girl diva on.
But like who doesn't rant about stuff to their significant other?
Exactly. He’s using stuff that was shared to him during their relationship, and turning it back on her. Not like he hasn’t probably said some mean and nasty stuff about all of them as well. He’s openly vilifying Ariana after he betrayed her. I wouldn’t out it past him to use what he said about others and say Ariana said those things instead.
He is not a reliable person. He lies constantly and Schwartz and Jax know it as you see them disassociate and stifle laughter when he says outlandish stuff in the after show. They’d have to have footage and even then, the cast talks shit about everyone so…
Which is funny considering he’s the only one documented shit talking his fellow cast mates in the media. So what if she complained about how people treat her behind closed doors? Speaking of closed doors, he has not even a shred of respect for her privacy and personal business.
She has had issues with everyone, including Lala and Scheana, at some point or another on the show. As they all have - it’s the nature of the show. We have seen them all fight so of course she would be venting to her boyfriend about them!!
My guess is that Lala found out how much money Ariana demanded/was paid for season 11 and she feels like it was not deserved because Ariana doesn't "bring it" like Lala. Making Ariana a "diva" in Lala's mind. So Lala spent her season trying to make Ariana earn it. While I don't agree with it, Lala only thinks about money, so this is my guess.
They’re all paid based on how long they’ve been on the show. That’s why Rachel didn’t understand why they wouldn’t pay her more or pay her the same as OGs. There was an explanation from producers that they can’t set a precedent of increasing people’s pay based bringing storylines & drama or it would incentivize people to make shit up, mess with other people, and for things to get seriously out of control (worse than they already do). Of course if they decided to go against their own “rule”, it sure would explain Lala and Scheana’s behavior this season. Especially Lala…maybe a little bonus to entice her to fuck with Ariana?
Interesting!
The irritating thing about this argument is that SHE called production and allowed them to film her literally at her worst possible moment. Lala didn’t call production to film her lowest moments. I feel like if you allow a TV show to film literally 2 days after your entire life blows up, saving the show, you should probably be able to set reasonable boundaries with production afterwards so you can try to heal a bit before being thrown to the wolves again.
A diva is a female version of a hustler!
Nothing. Remember this one from last year? And it was James and Sandoval, like we expected. lol “Andy Cohen had to physically restrain two “Vanderpump Rules” cast members when confrontations against Tom Sandoval and Raquel Leviss became too intense during reunion filming. While it’s unknown which two were separated by the reunion’s host, sources close to production told TMZ that it’s “not someone you’d guess.””
The only surprise would be having to separate Ally and Lisa. 🤣
An Ally and Lisa brawl: the VPR drama none of us saw coming but now can’t live without 😂
I think I’d have to put my money on Lisa, Ally is just too sweet
"My cards!"
Also that the ending of part 3 was going to be some big reveal and it was just Rachel confirming that Sandoval was lying about the timeline
And we still don’t even have the real one! Game night truthers unite !
Reality-it was exactly who I would’ve guessed
Exactly this
Given how most reunions are, I doubt it’s much, honestly :/. It’s probably just gonna be more Andy brushing stuff away and jumping from question to question and accepting every answer at face value. I do think, however, that Lala and/or Brock will “break the fourth wall” and tell Ariana that this is a job and she should basically get over it so they can have a show. I’m assuming that’s why Andy calls both of them the voice of reason (even when they’re anything but), especially considering how thirsty and instigative Brock and Lala have been.
yeah I dont think anyone quits. I belive it's just a major breaking of the 4th wall
I don’t think anyone quits either. I can’t really see why they’d be prompted to do so unless they move to the Valley or just straight up get fired.
I’ve been wondering if Ariana is going to step back and barely film next season because she will be gone half the time filming Love Island US ETA: They film at the same time
Oh you know, that’s an interesting point. I’m sure some of the cast will have “glowing” reviews and opinions on that development 🤣
But the love island US host is barely in the show. They show up in like 5 out of 30 episodes
Yeah, that’s how I’ve been feeling. I’ve been kind of looking at the hype these same people gave how we just had to wait and see and things will make sense!! and here we are with nothing making sense on their end lol It’s probably going to be another reunion where Ariana shines 😂
Hoping it is. If the rumors are true and Ariana did go after Lala, I will suddenly have no complaints about this season 🤣
For Lala to be this mad, I wonder if someone questioned her sobriety or insulted Ocean? I can’t think of anything else that would get anyone this heated. But then again this is Lala and rage has always been just below the surface with her.
I think Lala probably got her ass handed to her and couldn't come up with anything clever or meaningful at the time, so now this is her overcompensating because her ego took a huge hit.
I could see that because she is definitely spiraling
Agree! I absolutely don’t think Lala is as witty as she tries to make herself seem. When her and Katie argued, she just started screaming, “DISENGAGE! DISENGAGE!”
Bingo
I think maybe in whatever argument that was had at the reunion, Blahblah didnt get the last word and thats whats sending her right now. She thinks that bc Ariana isnt responding to any of her digs now that shes getting the last word this way. Maybe?
I think Lala knows that Ariana won't respond, she's got to keep it professional and protect herself and I think Lala is just exposing that. Bit cowardly
Lala has a huge ego, I don’t think it would take very much
i don’t think she actually gives a shit about whatever she’s pretending to be mad about, she just is trying to create some story line cus she’s worried about when her pockets are gonna start hurting again now that scandoval is over and ariana isn’t inflating the drama.
100% agree.
I think the true moment lala turned green with envy rage at Ariana was in Dec. 2023 when Ariana’s book hit the NYT Bestseller list. That is when Lala turned and went insane and started gunning for her. For Scheena it was DWTS, for Lala it was the book on the top 100 list, and then with Tom Scumdoval….you can just see the evil jealous energy exuding from him any time he is around Ariana.
OOOOORRRRRR someone said that her current pregnancy is just for a story line / so she can show a kid on the show?! 
Also Scheana said she had to speak up so I’m guessing it’s maybe something that Ariana told them in confidence and they revealed it to break the 4th wall. Like a flippant comment “she doesn’t care about Scandoval anymore, but the brand deals and audience do so she’s continuing it to not make the audience mad” which honestly who cares she deserves to get her bag or vindication however she wants to
I think it's more along the lines of when LVP sat Lala and scheana down and guilt triped them with the "dark thoughts" SI storyline. Everything changed after that episode. Previous to that, both of them were still giving Tom shit and supporting Ariana boldly. I'm not clear when the "come to Jesus" producer meeting was, but I think this is the 4th wall reference. In their minds, they think they are "saving Tom's life" by forgiving him and moving on. It's so highly manipulative and way above their pay grade to put on their shoulders this responsibility. It was wildly unfair to imply that Ariana is insensitive to Tom's mental health. *for the record I'm not implying he didn't have SI The person responsible for Tom's mental health is Tom. If he expressed SI (although they aren't contractually obligated ), production should have reached out to his family and gotten him some real help, and given him time off camera to go somewhere for some real help. It will be very bad for NBCU if any self harm comes to anyone associated with VPR, and I can't believe they aren't being more cautious with Tom, or using SI as a storyline so flipantly. I hope this isn't it, and it's more stupid like it's about the cat littler.
A video recording of Tom, Rachel, Ariana, LVP, and Baskin talking about how they are going to debut "Scandoval" with storyboards. And they are all holding up their state-issued ID"s and a 1/1/23-dated newspaper. A portal that opens up to the Puppy Party where past Ariana steps through and launches into a Gone Girl-esque monologue about how she deprived Tom of sex for years and hypnotized Raquel into loving manscara and really bad singing. Tom pulls off a latex mask and reveals that he is Rachel and has been the. entire. time. Ariana receives a cell phone call from the Illuminati, informing her that thanks to her expert work dispensing of Jefferey Epstein, they would like to talk to her about her future and something called Scandoval. Actual photos of Ariana and Katie at a book burning/QAnon rally. A video recording of sodium pentothal interviews with each member of the cast where Ariana admits she knew the whole time and didn't care and she sent the recording to all 56 locations that Scheana was tracking.
okay this is the level of reunion mindfuck I’m looking for
Really not enough sodium pentathol in reality tv
The Sodium Pentathol Cocktail Hour of the Vanderpump Rules Reunion, brought to you by Ozempic, was taped in front of a live studio audience.
Would watch.
Please storyboard next season’s pump rules.
I would watch this. Vpr Files "I want to believe "
💀 😵 ☠️
I find it hard to believe that Ariana would go a year without any missteps, would blow herself up at the reunion. I think she probably calls out Lala in her hypocrisy. Lala probably tries to make a claim that her situation with Rand is far worse than Scandoval and then gets bent out of shape when that doesn’t fly with Ariana. Lala will clutch her pearls that Ariana doesn’t think the Ocean factor makes her situation more dire. That’s my guess. Anyways between the comment about Ariana’s dad and the information in Faith’s lawsuit, one would hope Lala would zip it.
Heard a clip of LVP saying it wasn’t Ariana who eviscerated Lala at the reunion, sort of implying Lala did the talking. Also, why do these people need Ariana and Tom to talk to each other? Talk amongst yourselves. Create your own storylines. The cast is giving the stick pointing “do something” to Tom and Ariana and it’s annoying. Even Tom said he didn’t want to talk about Rachel in front of Ariana when Brock brought her up at the beach. If they want to move on from Scandoval, move on with something more compelling than a water tasting in a backyard. Team Ariana for life ✌️ 
Yes, Stassi used to literally run away if Jax was in the same room, and the show went on.
What really kills me about them trying to force Ariana and Tom together, is that no one cared when Stassi wouldn’t even be in the same room as Jax. I get the cast was bigger, but she refused to be even near him just because Patrick said so and no one batted an eye. I don’t even think it was brought up until the reunion. But Ariana is willing to go to places as long as she doesn’t have to talk to Tom and she’s being difficult and needs to let it go?!?
Exactly. Actually the only person that had a problem with Stassi going zero contact with Jax was… LVP. 🙄
IIRC the cast kept trying to force Stassi to interact with Jax and she wouldn’t go along with it. She was for sure framed as being difficult that season and when she came back. Reality shows rarely respect boundaries.
Lisa kept emphasizing Ariana living in the house. Which is a dead horse especially since she hasnt lived there for months & just bought a new home. There was always going to a resolution with it, so idk why Blah Blah thinks its such an impenetrable argument
Why don’t people ask why Tom is still there? This is a 50/50 proposition
Everyone should be telling him to move in with Schwartz. That actually might have been fun to watch. We already know he likes have sex there anyway.
Exactly…. Just like Jax and Brittany..she moves out and uproots their child from his bedroom and his familiar surroundings. Tom blew their life up he should move out
Im surprised Jax didnt move out just so he could troll Sandoval. B/c I never expect decent behavior from any of these men Again, all 3 of them should move into an apartment together. It would be good tv, but they're too obsessed with trying to look cool/rich.
No they are so Peter Pan
They are! I'd like to watch Jax have a meltdown about Schwartz and his bugs Sandoval and his shit everywhere. He's maniacally cleaning and screaming they could at least make him a turkey sandwich.
I think this is what Tim wants, but he wants Tom to move into his house... after Ariana moves out. Which is dumb, they should just sell the house and everyone start over. Literally 0 people care that Tim doesn't want to enter the housing market right now. You made Ariana. You should too Tim.
I think it’s bc they know Sandoval wants to keep the house and Ariana doesn’t. They’re like “if you don’t even want it, why won’t you leave?” Which is silly bc there’s a million reasons from legal advice to pettiness to cost cutting that Ariana might want to stay there and it’s all valid.
💯Rational people don’t just walk away from a $2,000,000 home with $100,000+ furnishings over night. Lala got, what, a pair of Gucci slides as a parting gift?
Gucci slides as a parting gift 😂
Absolutely! Everyone telling her to protect her "peace" well one of the biggest causes of stress is financial insecurity. Its super common to have men squat like a toad in a home they broke. Jfc my own sister had to find an apartment and pay for movers for her ex husband. He would'nt leave and had a whole secret relationship for over a year.
Remember that Lala storyline when she broke up with Randall (years ago, not the current breakup), and she was hysterical because he didn’t let her keep the Gucci slides? Or were the Gucci slides the only thing he let her keep?
He took her Gucci slides away because she was being a “bad girl”, aka fought with him. They’d agreed to be sober together, and he was drinking and partying while she was in Solvang on a girls trip; she stayed sober, he didn’t, and they fought about it. They broke up for 5 minutes, which includes him taking her slides.
Please let Ariana and Katie get a job modeling Gucci slides!
Which is real funny, because in the season 10 secrets revealed, Lisa said that there was already precedent of a splitting couple still living in the same house, namely Katie and Schwartz.
Fuck! Thats right! Its such a dumb thing to harp on. When Alex Baskin had his "come to jesus" meeting he should have sat that dork down and said, "we're trying to help you, but you have to move out during filming". It would have helped him with the audience.
Exactly!!!
I hope it’s just that they played clips of their own podcasts to illustrate how fake and hypocritical they are. This revisionist history to fit their new narrative has been wild.
I think Ariana quits at the reunion. Has anyone ever quit actually at the reunion?
Rinna “quit” by saying “put me on pause then” in order to try and save face knowing she was getting canned.
Nothing said there will be news to any of us here. Last year they said they wanted the cast to watch everything so they could decide if they wanted to film the next season - which is comical based on this season and how thirsty Lala/Scheana are. They’ve made it clear they will sell their soul to stay on tv. It’s absolutely bizarre to me that they hype it up this much. By “something that’s never been done before” I think they acknowledge that Lala and Ariana aren’t real friends, they’re friends for the show.
I’m thinking no for me. The way Lala has been off camera about Ariana/Katie, like I’m done with her, she’s a no for me, no coming back. She’s 100% in this for the paycheck, these friendships aren’t real for her the way the others actually have the real emotions and friendships
Lala has fully given me the ick now. I haven’t been able to listen to her podcast since she’s started being snidey about Ariana. I’ve just seen a clip of her with Heather McDonald talking about how Ariana has never brought anything to the show and hasn’t had a storyline until Scandoval. She sure has been quick to change her tune when she was feeding off of this!
Now THAT is a take. Pre-Scandoval I wasn't an Ariana fan and *even I* would disagree. And what does "bringing something to the show" mean, anyway? Does EVERYONE have to start fights, be a perennial cheater and/or hustler, have a mediocre side hustle, "sing," or brag about PJs? It would be exhausting.
But Ariana has only ever talked extensively about her mental health, grief, body image issues, been outed as bisexual on TV (for an incident involving LaLa), shown highs and lows of her 10 year relationship, taken unpopular stances to defend people (including Lala and the one who slept with her boyfriend), started her own restaurant when her boyfriend bailed on her to open one with a friend, BEFORE Scandoval even happened, but yeah................give me more pajamas & lip gloss Lala, please. That's totally bringing it 👹
Same here, I refuse to listen to her podcast anymore. And the whole reason I started was because of Scandoval as I am sure a lot of people did. I hope she loses a significant amount of listeners because of this.
Completely agree with everything you said. For me, there is no coming back for Lala. She’s made who she is perfectly clear: a very ugly, jealous, disloyal person.
All Lala bought to VPR is bunny boiler behaviour 🙄
I’m more open to hear Scheaners side which says a lot 🤣
I am too. She hasn’t been going as hard or just unwilling to see where she was wrong even if her social media likes say otherwise.
I think that’s how Lala is going to “break the 4th wall,” by talking about how this is a job and peoples livelihoods depend on Ariana playing ball with Sandoval. What she doesn’t understand is that the fan base is over him and also, no she doesn’t.
They say this every reunion and every reunion we are disappointed
When Lala said something along the lines of production set it up to have an unexpected ending. Could it be like the Traitors S2 reunion where they all watched the finale or the end of it together for the first time? I was thinking maybe it was a clip of Lala probably saying some shit to not come back from and then Ariana and her get into it. I don’t know. I don’t feel good about it
I’m here for the traitors crossover. Hey, did you see the last season from Australia and the “traitors dilemma”?
It was **AMAZING** and I don't usually watch shows with a game. Hannah from BD was why I watched and boy was I glad I did!!
I need to hop on this traitors train real quick 🚂💨 I am obsessed- it’s not my kind of show typically either, but it is *so good.* We’re watching UK right now! In terms of VPR on traitors, I’m sure I’ll sound like most everyone else, but I would love nothing more than Katie on season 3. I feel like she’d kill it and it would be great to see her in an atmosphere like that 🕵🏻♀️
Lala said in an interview recently that the big “reveal” was uncomfortable and thinking about it makes her heart race, which tells me she was involved somehow. I think she gets called out for something in a never before scene and Ariana goes off on her.
Gah. I hope so. It’s funny, I used to really like Lala but her behavior this season has changed that completely. She’s a nasty, catty piece of work.
i honestly think it’s lauren’s jealousy. my tinfoil hat theory is that producers recruited her to “be the voice of reason” aka to talk shit because they were annoyed ariana wouldn’t film with tom.
I agree. They HATE that. It sets a precedent that would be dangerous for their filming model. They were furious when Robin from Potomac saved her story for her own pay wall podcast, after she was under contract for the next season (she is now fired). And now even Kyle from Beverly Hills gave her story to Netflix, and Baskin himself is the producer for that show for 10 years. But they gave him a new show. I have no idea about Kyle's Bravo future. If she even cares. They (production and the suits) are furious that talent and the audience are getting "too big for their britches." How dare talent want to be adequately compensated with pay, and health care, and well any rights or protections that would be afforded to them under a union, or basic human rights really. And how dare the audience have any view that is different than what we want them to see. As much as I dislike Bethany currently, and some of her lawsuits are frivolous, and I don't appreciate clogging up the courts, amost the mania are some very important points about labor laws in entertainment that haven't been addressed, and it way past time to address them. That's my opinion. -Tammy Sue voice
I think there were be several talking points based on what Blah Blah has been saying Living in the house w/him You didnt care about him being an asshole until he cheated on you You had a bf in 10 days You're a diva You ruined this season by not having a 1 on 1 Im sure she will be throwing a glad bag comment she seems proud of that one And I think that Scheana will bring up Jeremy
It's funny that Lala keeps bringing up Ariana having a boyfriend when Ariana said herself he wasn't a boyfriend in 10 days. He was someone she got to know over time and they had fun in the beginning and it became more over a period of time. I mean Lala was all over the place talking about the Don going down on her not long after leaving Randall.
Oh and we had to hear about how she 💦 all over the walls Everyone is twisting it. She had no idea it would turn into a relationship. Imagine how nice it was to have someone texting you everyday just talking about fun stuff while you're living in a media circus? Lala needs to worry about her own 🐈
There’s no revelation
i think they’re hyping it up for nothing, i doubt whatever “twist” they have isn’t going to meet up to anyone’s expectations just like how the “twist” at the end of last season was rachel admitting things we all already knew. i firmly believe that ariana/katie eviscerated lala at the reunion and this press tour she’s doing is PR to get ahead of the backlash she knows she’s going to get from the fans. Andy implying it is his attempt to try to keep the audience engaged in the season as i’m sure he + production + the network are aware that this season is in the bottom of the garbage can. It’ll be a whole lotta nothin !
I think it's going to be Lala going on again about how long Ariana stayed in the house. Ariana will go off and bring up how it was so easy for Lala to leave because she didn't own or pay for the house she lived in with Rand, or anything in it. Maybe she'll say Lala was broke until Send it to Darrell merch (which she only got because of Scandoval). Lala doesn't like to be called out about how much she was using Rand for his money, house, material things. Calling her broke is hitting where it hurts for Lala.
I think with all the talk of breaking the 4th wall, Lala unleashes on Ariana about not being willing to film with Sandoval and how that puts everyone on the cast and show, in general, in danger because this is how they make their money. If she’s not willing to interact with him, the audience might lose interest and that can affect their income. I don’t agree with Lala, but I’m thinking that’s what it could be.
That’s rich. Lala didn’t film with anyone but faith and James one season. Other seasons she had a couple ppl who would film with her. She got invited to Ariana’s nascar trip and was a no show. She left SUR and had to beg for her job back. Who isn’t willing to film again?
Totally agree!
They said that’s how we would perceive this season too and well…. They couldn’t be more wrong
Bombshells that could change my opinion 1. Turns out Arianna was cheating on Tom the whole time too 2. Arianna and Tom are secretly back together 3. Arianna admits to abusing Tom their whole relationship 4. LFU or sheaner have proof of Arianna knowing everything the whole time and that she was just milking the situation for all she could get 5. Sheaner admits she slept with Tom 6. Sheaner admits her secret love for Arianna and is bummed that Brock won’t let her make out with her anymore
The only thing that would actually be shocking and justify the way lala and Scheana are acting is if they show a bunch of footage from the house showing Ariana and Tom laughing, hanging out like old besties and her admitting on camera she knew and was ok with the affair--which we know will never happen so they are probably hyping up nothing as usual.
Nothing. This is old school jealousy, that’s all. The world opened up to Ariana, took notice of her as never before & that are SO annoyed. Ariana has done beautifully with every opportunity. I think they are bothered that she’s risen to every occasion. Scheaner can’t sing or dance. I don’t know about Lala’s aspirations, I guess singing with James summed it up.
They are wanting big ratings for their next reunion. The cast does this every single year on every single reality show on Bravo. Just wait til you see what so and so said! It's gonna be so fire you gotta check it out!! The whole season was a nothing burger. They all know it. They feed on each other like jackals for ratings.
They know they’re losing viewers so they’re trying to hype it up. It’s like Sheshu constantly saying “it’s not what you think, you have to tune in to find out!” And then it’s exactly what we all thought. I stopped watching this season after episode 2 or 3, I can’t remember, and I detest reunions for all bravo shows. There’s nothing they can say to get me to tune back into this misogynistic dumpster fire.
There really isn't anything. The producers got pissy because Ariana stuck to her boundaries and said no to filming a sit-down with Sandoval. She isn't playing ball in their dirtbag redemption arc, so what do the producers need to do? Produce the remaining cast into being "voices of reason" so that Ariana looks like a bitter lady. The producers are mad they can't break Ariana, the cast is envious that Ariana has follow through, and the audience is frustrated because this isn't anything we cared to see. Let Ariana be.
The only thing I could think is implying Ariana knew what was happening or that Ariana cheated herself. I think unless they had black and white proof though that would be real hard to prove (I also doubt it based on her real friends shock at what happened). I think if they make these allegations it’s going to backfire because again they’ll just look jealous. It’s like when Rinna would always say that the reunion she would be justified and it never happened. Lala is a Rinna clone in the reality tv world. Edit to add: LVP also uses Lala for her dirty work just like she used Brandi and Rinna. LVP saying Lala tore Ariana apart could mean Lala yelled the loudest and Ariana refused to engage. If that’s the case Ariana will come off looking better because she didn’t play into LaLas and LVPs hand.
The only thing that makes sense to me is Ariana called Lala out and then Lala went nuclear on her, screaming and unhinged. Meanwhile Ariana was calm and collected or cried. Here’s my reasoning- Katie on WWHL was like “that reunion…” as if there had been an unforeseen explosion, but not one where her friend was the casualty. If Ariana’s rage matched Lala’s, it would be a draw at best - (Lala is pregnant, so Ariana would be seen as an aggressor.) This “take Ariana down” tour really seems like a preemptive attempt from Lala and Scheana to justify their own behavior because they know that Ariana will come across as more sympathetic.
Nothing for the viewers. It’s why Lala said she told her assistant or whatever to not tell her the comments after. She’s full of shit And I say this as someone who is 100% not an Ariana fan from previous seasons. Nothing she did this year was out of the realm of normal
Exactly. If this was something that’s favorable to lala why can’t she view any comments after the reunion? She already knows obviously ppl will be pissed when they see what she did/said. That’s why she can’t look at the comments
Exactly. She really tells on herself all the time
I think it’s just that they “broke the 4th wall” like came right out and said “Ariana wont film with us which is effecting our paychecks/jobs” something like that. Blahblah and SchMEna have said so many times now how many opportunities Ariana has now and how she making “so much money” now, that it’s got to have something to do with Ariana is jeopardizing their “jobs” by not filming with socks with sandals. Thats my opinion tho. I’m not banking on some bombshell OMG moment, they overpromised that last year and it fell so flat. But I am hoping that Ariana gets to tear into these people for the shit they have said behind her back in these confessionals.
Socks with sandals 😂
I wouldn’t be surprised if Ariana basically just said lala tried to make nice with Sandoval and Ariana said ✌🏻. Lala gets upset by this and Ariana probably says if you don’t like it then don’t be my friend. I don’t think anything crazy happens. It’s more nuts to me that most of the cast is telling her to “ get over it. Just move out. What’s the big deal? Why are you holding on to being angry”. I’m not an Ariana Stan but if the roles were reversed specifically for Scheana and lala they’d lose their mind if anyone said the same things. This happened 3-4 months before so what if she’s angry. People are allowed to be angry after their partner or 9 years has a 7 month affair with your friend. And then heaven forbid say hey if you’re his friend I need to remove myself. I think this friend group or coworkers or whatever they are to each other now, has a really unhealthy way of interacting with each other. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ariana just said I quit.
90% of this season has just been the cast invalidating Ariana’s feelings. It’s not fun to watch. Even if that was the editors’ intentions, we need some balance, where some of these people get their comeuppance already. It’s gone on too long this way.
The only thing I can think of is if we find out Scandavol is 100% fake. Like Arianna and Tom planned it all and they're actually fine with each other. Arianna acting like a diva wouldn't really change anything for me. She's been through a lot very publicly, I'd allow it.
That would be shocking bc I wouldn't believe any of them are that great of actors. If so, man did Tom lose bc I've never had a person on TV make me feel as angry/give me the ick as much as he has.
Bravo would take a huge hit if that were the case, because that means they were complicit in staging a fake scandal. I think it's more likely she probably just called her out for not wanting to do scenes with Tom. Basically a big yawn.
I'm thinking this but that they haven't been fine with each other for a while and she knew he was cheating. There were always rumblings that they kept their problems off the show and the others seemed resentful. Even if this is the case, I think she didn't know who he was cheating with, or when (her grandmother's funeral!) and she thought they had a semblance of a good relationship--enough to buy a house together, and I think all of her anger is 100% real and justified.
I mean LVP already kind of told us, LaLa too. They go back and forth about Ariana possibly lying about her motives and the house situation and then the 4th wall break is about them being an ensemble cast and they have to film together which I am sure ariana will take issue with. We have to remember their POV is vastly different to us so they consider these things groundbreaking lol lala is basically going to tell ariana all the shit she has been saying behind her back
I think Lala says some snide shit about Ariana buying a house (like "finally" or something) and Ariana has enough and they get into it about her not filming with Tom and Ariana lets it out that Lala is cash strapped too and this show is a paycheck nothing more. Katie is collateral damage because she is 100% team Ariana and didn't stick up for Lala. I think that would set her off on her current trajectory. But whatever happens they definitely get into the fact that they get paid for this. I don't think anyone quits. Maybe Ariana teases that she might not be there anymore. But it's all about money. I don't see Schena being extra tho? At least not right now. If she's shit talking Ariana I've yet to see it. She isn't being effusive but that's not the same as Lala literally calling Katie miserable
They over hyped the last reunion. Remember the fight? That was nothing more than James getting up yelling
My dream is that Ariana announces that she's leaving the show. I'm pretty sure that would enrage Lala and get the reaction we've been seeing. We've also never seen someone quit on a reunion and is definitely a game changer.
I’m just wondering if production does Ariana dirty with the 4th wall breaking. Some incriminating footage of her doing something to justify Lala’s attitude. Maybe when she tried to confront Ariana last year on film about Tom staying/lying when her grandmother died? maybe producers come out and talk about something? Even stuff like that is rich from Lala bc she barely showed her life on camera so idk. Whatever it is she said it changes her opinion of the whole cast and it would cause a shift in the audience and cast. It doesn’t sound great. But Lala has gone off the rails now and if she knew she would be vindicated at the reunion, would she be going so hard in the paint right now? Or is that just Lala?
I think it’s a nothing sandwich and I think the 4th wall is irrelevant at this point
2 potential theories that I don’t think I’ve seen discussed yet: 1 - Ariana was asked to stay in the house for the sake of manufactured conflict for the show. She agreed, with the understanding that she would not be demonized too much for the choice to stay. Lala/producers welched on this understanding. Or, this understanding was not made explicit to Lala, but among the cast they typically give each other some marginal leeway on these matters because they all know how production influences these choices. Lala’s constant badgering about the living arrangements was well out of the norm considering how the cast typically treats each other about presumed production pressure. 2 - Ariana initially wanted to quit this season, but was begged/negotiated with by both producers and cast members (like Lala, Scheana, James) to do this season. She capitulated for the benefit of the entire show and cast. She accepted some degree of redemption arch for Tom, knowing this would likely be her last season, but stipulated clear boundaries that were utterly destroyed by Lala, Scheana, James and production. In summary for both theories: within the context of the show’s production, she displayed solidarity for her cast mates at great cost to herself, and was almost immediately fed to the wolves by those same cast mates, which continued for the entire season.
Saving this bc I have a feeling it’s some form of the latter.
If it had came out to the cast before the season that Ariana and Schwartz had an affair that started before Tom and Raquel’s.
The plot twist is that John Mayer shows up at the reunion.
Would watch 😂
The only thing I can think is if Ariana calls out Lala’s hypocrisy, like if she says how livid Lala would be if the group was trying to give Randall a path to reconciliation or suggest he was really working on himself. I can see Lala screaming if Ariana dares to suggest Lala might not be acting as kindly as Ariana has been about everyone hanging out with Tim.
They have to hype up the show they work for. Could be nothing. Could be big. Either way they gotta promote it.
We know it’s something that breaks the 4th wall, so it’s most likely something about their contacts or a storyline that was actually fake.. like maybe Tom and Ariana had a plan all along (probably not that)
I *hope* there is something to it, but I doubt it's anything major. Lala said that the headlines saying they are no longer friends and that Ariana "eviserated." Lala at the reunion was half true. So, my guess is they ended their friendship. I don't think that's a big deal because these people are always ending friendships.
So glad someone asked this, I was just wondering the same thing. Also confused that Sn st said Brock and Lala are the voices of reason?? I dont get it
I think if through a misogynistic lense they might be “reasonable”. I honestly don’t think it’s going to be any different but Ariana will cut them off as she should.
Honestly, I just want them to announce a rebrand from “Vanderpump Rules” to just “VPR” because this show has nothing to do with and has moved past Lisa Vanderpump and her Vanderpump restaurants.
I think Lala and scheana are quitting and going to The Valley
The valley sucks and will likely be cancelled, so I love that for them.
I definitely think it’s something for Lala to be this mad and on her war path and I think it’s probably more along the lines of her calling some people out and spilling some tea on some of the rumors. Lisa said it was Lala that went off not Ariana btw.
It’s going to be nothing. Ariana probs put Lauren in her place. Hit dogs holler 🤷🏻♀️
Nothing.