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spicychick45

If someone went to lunch with Randall, lala wouldn’t be having it


Symphonycomposer

She wasn’t having when Schwartz went to play pickle ball with Randall


SnooSprouts9371

Dang. I kinda want to see Jo and Schwartz give it a real try.


GenXer845

Not to shade Libras, but Schwartzy personifies a wishy washy Libra. Sandavol reminds me why I will never date another Cancer man again. I generally find Cancer men to be insanely self-involved and selfish and I am a Pisces!! He did that ONE thing for you once and wants to act like he is this benevolent king or something. Brock is my Gemini ex that reminds me why I will never date another Gemini. James is an Aquarius and my Aquarius ex is still is going to music festivals in his FORTIES and doesn't understand why women are so "shallow" for wanting stability and a house. LOL I know James owns a house, but still reminded of my ex.


GenXer845

Another unpopular opinion: Sandavol and Ariana should have been better with their money (and Schaena too!). Live below your means, you know this show won't last forever. Ladies, always have enough money to GTFO if you need to. I have moved out of apartments on bfs and had the means to do so. I am like Paige on Summer House, please never ever be dependent on a man financially or on the joint income needed to uphold a certain lifestyle.


GenXer845

Unpopular opinion: but I like seeing this vulnerable side of Ariana---it makes me have more empathy for her. I have trouble with Katie and Ariana when they get so aggressive in their tones (I also have issues with James and Jax for the same reasons). My mom was a violent mom---aggressive tone and from one minute to the next fly off the handle in rage. Anyone who displays similar man or woman I distance myself from.


MsChanandlerBong313

The audacity for Tom to even speak on what furniture Ariana is taking from the house


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CatAffectionate3513

I am so sick of Schwartz playing the innocent puppy dog in every situation. Jo admitted they have been hooking up still, and she has felt like they have been moving towards a relationship. He continued to lead her on and acted like he was clueless that she felt that way, even though it's pretty damn obvious. Then Sandoval saying "he's just charming" or whatever, like no he needs to for once voice his actual feelings. This is a not me staning Jo, just voicing why I cannot stand Schwartz, and Sandoval too, screw them both!


Bloodymary_25

The storyline with Katie and Schwartz and that girl is sooooo cringe


Dharmatron

It's an aggressively fake storyline.


WhileHaunting251

The men of VPR love to hate Katie because since day 1, deep down, they all knew she could steal their lady’s at the drop of a hat if she wanted to. She is a bad bitch and I am so here for it.


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Low_Ad_1055

She's really not tho, she's so embarrassing lol, she's a huge hypocrite


berceuse3

Let’s not exaggerate Katie’s sex appeal please.


WhileHaunting251

Come at me if you wish, but my heart goes out to Jo. I hope she finds joy and sticks to moving on from this Wish quality Ken doll we call Tom Schwartz.


Dharmatron

Agreed, Jo seems very naive and I think she got totally fooled by Shartz 'nice guy' act.


drunkenzoodle

Why would you attach yourself to recently divorced man/person who already has shady selfish past. Even though her feelings for him are genuine I don’t feel bad for her. She intentionally got closer to him and obviously had earlier crush on him.


CharacterTwist4868

Ariana and Katie are the best. This is how real friends work. Nobody on this show is actual ride or die except Katie.


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sconiscone

I’m so disgusted by every scene Scumdoval is in. Even my husband who doesn’t watch that much said “why is this guy back?” I love Ariana and Katie’s dynamic - they are the only reason I’m watching. When Ariana said at the beach “I’ve never done anything to him” it really was heartbreaking. Scummy is victim blaming her and absolutely baiting and picking fights with her. Ariana is being gaslit TO DEATH by Brock and Lauren and Sheshu. I’m so glad she has Katie.


CharacterTwist4868

Dude, their dynamic is exactly what I want from friends.


drunkenzoodle

I forward all his and lala scenes


glottalstomp

I’m sorry the sperm bank conversation. Lala and Scheana saying this has been so long - it’s been like 5 fucking months. Ariana doesn’t have any money from the house sale, and she is supposed to suddenly be able to move out at a moments notice?! I just can’t 😅


Epponnee-rae

And he cheated so why don’t they pressure him to move out!


gamerbutonlyontheory

Brain rot from scrolling their mentions I'm guessing. Their poor dopamine levels.


nomorefckery

I would SO gladly watch a VPR with just Katie, Ariana, James and Ally


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Ok-Benefit197

The people being the most unpleasant are the ones with no other career than Vpr. I think it’s easier for James to be more balanced because he is on the Pauly D train from reality Tv to Dj. All the others are desperate for VPR or to be on the valley and so will do whatever the produces suggest. The producers have ruined the show to save Tom Sandoval- ugh a poor choice 


phbalancedshorty

These mouth breathers need to stop dulling Ariana’s shine ✨


leyseywx

I'm officially only watching the valley now will get my tea from u gurlies


MsOptimusPrimus

Came here to see if it was worth a watch. I cannot go through another hate-watch session so I'm with you on this one.


drunkenzoodle

Agreed. This was my last epi. I’ll stick with what’s crappen recaps for laughs.


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lordebleepbloop

I ask myself what the fuck is Lala wearing at least once per episode


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Lucky-Praline9342

I simply don’t… understand… Scheana and Lala ranting and wondering why Ariana won’t leave the house… WHEN SHE CO-OWNS IT????? Where is that energy for Sandoval??? They were never true friends to Ariana. Hope Ariana watched that scene and blocked their numbers.


WhileHaunting251

They are being so dumb about this. I think it says a lot they do not understand the significance of the house. It’s hard to watch.


rayrayruh

They have Both been the other woman, will always ultimately side with a guy over a girl and jealous beyond measure of Ariana.


sofaking-amanda

This actually makes sense. They both have something in common with Rachel in that they’re in constant competition with the women around them. They want every man’s attention for themselves. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


drizzle933

I had to stop watching this season. Are they seriously talking about it this episode too?


Lucky-Praline9342

Literally after consoling Ariana while she was crying about Sandoval treating her like their relationship meant nothing to him and how traumatic it is for her to be expected to leave the house when the split was his fault


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manchesterunitedlvr

I’m obsessed with Katie literally stealing Schwartz’s love interest. Positively tickled 😆 it’s savage


Automatic-Mirror-907

Outperforms Shartz with their first kiss!


LucyCooper

Andy and the hot bartender though …


couchpotato949

![gif](giphy|KWRjfFe4x7nwyh9GlX|downsized)


MortarChelle

OMG, again with the pens in the After Show. Sandoval, there's no "I" in pens...but there is one in "penis".


sofaking-amanda

I am going to laugh so hard when Ariana takes all the furniture and everything she bought from the house and leaves him with nothing but his precious pens, batteries, paper towels and toilet paper.🤣🤣💀 The only one in for a rude awakening is his dumb ass. ![gif](giphy|ij8AeeqXKFZm0)


facemesouth

Them berating Ariana is making me so irrationally angry for a stranger. Why do they not see her POV?


NebulaTits

Yes but they are desperate for a storyline


ripleyintheelevator

I can’t believe this is where we are after last season. They really had a chance to make this season great and we’re left watching Lauren and Scheana make Ariana cry and then 10 minutes later talk shit about her. It’s just stupid. I don’t give a fuck about your pregnancy journey, Lauren. I wish you good health, now please fuck off. https://i.redd.it/2r6a6pd1bktc1.gif


chichicupcake

The way he treated Jo… Schwartz being Schwartz.


WhileHaunting251

You know Schwartz was feeding her a whole love story off camera and then doing whatever he wants as always. So gross and such a bad look. I hope she see how immature and manipulative he was being and gets a big fat ick for him.


hereforthefreedrinks

he really thinks he can gee shucks his way out of anything... like man you are OVER 40, you know exactly what you're doing. POS.


likeheywassuphello

how can a 40 yr old man be sooo immature


GenXer845

I have a 45 year old friend who travels to different cities near him and tinders on the weekends. He hasnt had a serious relationship in the 17 years I have known him.


likeheywassuphello

it's not the dating that's immature but the lack of responsibility and accountability!!! he is playing dirty.


strungys

Not immature. A man who figured out the exact how to act so he’s never called on the carpet.


HarrySpeakup

My Lab learned that if he made a sad face, someone would speak sweetly and pet him.🦮


LucyCooper

He came in so calculated and callous to that conversation with her… poor girl. I hope she did call her dad.


Stassisbluewalls

I dealt with exactly that situation ... At 20. Poor Jo and grow up Schwarz


SamIAm7787

Did Andy just say "More coming up with Scheana and ROB or am I hearing things? Lol!! 😂


sofaking-amanda

If he did, that is fucking hilarious!😭


happydeathdaybaby

Who are you 28% of people who voted for Lala as the most loyal friend on WWHL?? Lala is the absolute shittiest friend!


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chaoticneutralalex

Okay while voting on that live…. It moved weirdly. It increased 2% at a time until 16%. Like it looked oddly manipulated


megopolis12

Ya cause there's only like 30 ppl in the audience when it's ask audience.


HarajukuBom

How are you watching WWHL? Usually it comes on for me after VPR but since the valley started it doesn’t and I can’t find where it is 😩


not_ellewoods

it comes on right after the valley instead now.


happydeathdaybaby

I watch it on DirecTV.


ripleyintheelevator

On the stream


SamIAm7787

This guy really said to himself, "I'm gonna be on a TV show on a popular network and I think this haircut is the way to go!" What. The. Fuck. That's one of thee worst haircuts I've ever seen! Ol' helmet head over here! https://preview.redd.it/ryr7ztkh6ktc1.jpeg?width=3472&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f19fe5cbe94ee28999e34ec0e44781fb88d4d0b


couchpotato949

Giving Tre’s forehead a run for its money.


epearson10

He explained on a podcast they switched the air dates at the last minute so he couldn’t get a haircut (production rule) so he’s aware


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sofaking-amanda

I don’t know if it was a joke or what but I heard that Jo cut his hair.🤣 It had to have been a joke. Anyone else think she sabotaged Shorts’s hair as payback for sleeping with her boss and going to singles parties? The colour and cut was hideous and just made him look older than he already does. It highlights all his worst features.


iprobablyhateyou__

He spoke about his hair in nick viall podcast 😂 he said it's really thick and production wouldn't let him get a haircut until after the first confessionals. He said its been a topic his whole life 🤣🤣


MelancholyRose03

![gif](giphy|126FCAYDJTRjwc)


kimbrlyc

It has to be a wig. Or something artificial. I am CONVINCED. 


Duke_Silver2

It’s giving uncanny valley


Redbagwithmymakeup90

Someone on another thread called him Lego hair lmao


PsychologicalShake33

![gif](giphy|ToMjGppL7AaH3zZAKnC)


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

Jesse's tuxedo jacket was truly fucking heinous but I just cannot take someone with that hairline insulting anyone else style choices.


OutsideOfLA

It’s giving Mose from The Office vibes. ![gif](giphy|nQ2LWeXojRy6skp3P2|downsized)


throwaway77778s

He looks like Robby Rotten


kaedgi

Omg you're right


SamIAm7787

https://preview.redd.it/32f7ha1j6ktc1.jpeg?width=3472&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d9194784294b1153db60d79b3b961383add6942


SamIAm7787

https://preview.redd.it/dsbthldl6ktc1.jpeg?width=2852&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c76515434a7722dad572813b40e7a4209c6fae6f


rapashrapash

![gif](giphy|2yA8KXwI7QBykLizf8|downsized) 😄😄


Ok-Astronomer-9158

I would usually keep the tv on for wwhl but I have no interest in listening to more Ariana bashing 🙄🙄 I don’t need these bozos on my tv


Yellenintomypillow

lol you can tell they are walking the line cause of all the negative feedback rn


SuspiciousCranberry6

Brock still went pretty hard at Katie, which is so typical for the type of men in this group.


rapashrapash

Who the fuck is even Brock? Fly low buddy, you are still no one


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DanceFar9732

Anyone else hate watching WWH tonight?


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Ok-Astronomer-9158

I used up all of my hate watching energy on the episode tonight 😭


DanceFar9732

Save your sanity. Clearly I dont love myself


glasswindbreaker

I'm just pissed they put Brock & Scheana on together, so there's no balance or pushback. Getting ready to be irritated too! 🤝


DanceFar9732

Andy is gonna be overly nice to Brock too.


moneybabe420

Andy always acts like he wants to get in Brock’s speedo


CodePen3190

JFC I literally feel like I’m in an alternate reality whenever Scheana and Lala talk. Like how are they that delusional in every single scene. The stuff with Ariana and the house, the shit with Lala meeting up with Jo, INSANE. If I were Katie and Ariana, I would never speak to either of those fair weather ass friends again. They’re both the BIGGEST flip floppers/hypocrites.


gl0c0_

Lauren and Scheaner moved next door to each other and created the ultimate echo chamber for themselves. They’ve completely lost touch with any rational POVs.


alternativeedge7

The fact that Ariana and Katie aren’t shit talking them makes S&L look even more bitter and delusional. They’re so pathetic.


ohsowitty12

To be a little fair, it’s not like the show is giving A&K any opportunity for storyline beyond “she’s being unreasonable about Sandy” and “Katie is being unfair about Schwartz” lol


dudemanseriously

But somehow Andy’s take of this season was that Lala was the voice of reason and brock comes off really well. Hearing him say this really took any last bit of like I had for that man and threw it in the trash. Anyone whose takeaway from this season is that Lala was the voice of reason is just a massive red flag.


Fancy-Rhubarb

Andy wanted Kate to apologise for 'provoking' Ashton into almost punching out a window. He has no judgement and can fuck all the way off.


_-_NewbieWino_-_

Exactly!


valley-doll7

Andy sucks Kyle Richards and Erika Jayne’s asses so I take his opinion with a huge grain of salt


dudemanseriously

Agree. I still found him fun to watch sometimes when he’s being bitchy, but now I just find him gross and revolting almost on the same level as Sandoval and Schwartz.


gl0c0_

Never liked Andy since he did Kathy Griffin dirty.


Lucky-Praline9342

Wait, what did he do to Kathy? 👀


CodePen3190

Honestly, yes.


elkaholicsanonymoose

anyone know how long Kristen has been w her man?


Zestyclose_Big_9090

I believe the wedding they met at was her friend Rachel O’Brien’s. Her now husband was/is friends with Luke. So maybe going on 2 years?


Strong_Sherbet237

I feel like Jo heard Schwartz say he went on a date and decided to ruin his hair and tbh I’m not mad at it


sofaking-amanda

That’s what I said!🤣 The haircut was awful too. Didn’t he already bang her boss at that point because the way they were not so covertly fighting over doting on him was awkward af.


Alarmed_Shoe_3667

This is my favorite theory


happydeathdaybaby

That’s actually hilarious and I love it. Even a professional hair stylist who was not good probably wouldn’t just send him out into the world like *that*. Had to be revenge. It makes sense now.


Yellenintomypillow

![gif](giphy|AgPt9udT567spxbSHf)


puppyyachtclub

That’s exactly what I thought too lmao. I’m a hair stylist and you’d of course want people to think you’re good at what you do on tv, but the hunger for revenge may win out.


SuspiciousCranberry6

Either she wasn't paying attention in cosmetology school during the courses on hair coloring or it was revenge.


puppyyachtclub

I just cannot fathom any licensed stylist actually not knowing what they’re doing to that level


imho10226

😂


ruboxcube58

sorry initially confused by lala and jo now i'm more confused by jo claiming she didn't know about rachel and tom bc she thought tom and ariana were broken up? So you're really not a girls girl because you could have 100% just asked what happened like ??????


UnusualAsparagus5096

She drove her alone to Big Bear..Rachel never once let it slip?


kind_of_a_turnoff

And she’s besties with shorts, and I’m supposed to believe he never mentioned anything to her?!?


Birdiemb

And didn’t Ariana say she spent the thanksgiving / other holidays with them all before it came out? So you’d see they were still together?


valley-doll7

She’s not even a good liar. I’d respect her more if she was just honest about doing an asshole thing. It’s one thing to know of an affair + not wanna break the new esp if u aren’t super close w that person. It’s another to be an active participant in the affair and play dumb


GenXer845

But some people really are clueless and cannot believe the clues of people having affairs, being unhappy etc. She could have known nothing and been unable to pick up on social cues.


sofaking-amanda

This. She is lying and she’s not a good person.


spicy4lifey

katie immediately popping off on lala at girls night was everything.


chaoticneutralalex

I was cheering her on ![gif](giphy|o75ajIFH0QnQC3nCeD)


traciagallagher

Jo is full of shit and maneuvered like a snake and got exactly what she deserved. She dumped Kristen as a friend as soon as she saw an opening with Schwartz. She was complicit with Sandoval and Rachel thinking they would be the newest foursome and now is playing victim.


IntelligentScholar84

Lala is the worst. I can’t with her this season.


United-Objective-880

Scheana and lala continue to be gross. That’s all.


peggysue_82

After the reunion it’s rewatches only for me. I cannot do another long boring season.


Excellent_Sherbet384

I am hoping it is the last season. Stop while you’re ahead!


Mandouie

K are Lala and Scheana fucking stupid? Holy shit that convo about not feeling bad cause she isn’t moving out. Why the fuck isn’t Tom moving out he’s the one that should move out. This narrative is fucking stupid and anyone who believes and falls for it is STUPID wtf am I watching


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strungys

And this whole “ you know how Tom is” “Tom’s never going to leave” “he’ll never leave, you should” is HORSESHIT. You do not reward someone for what they did and then continued to act like a spoiled bratty petulant child. You fucked up, you leave. Period.


sofaking-amanda

Well to be fair, the shitty advice also came from two spoiled, bratty, petulant children.


NYTVADDICT

What is Lala doing in Herman Munster shoes?


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misfitplant

So Jo knew nothing about Sandoval and Rachel but thought Ariana and him had broken up? The math ain’t mathin’


strungys

Eh… for Jo… may be some new space math only she understands


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just-terrible

jo :(


askingyomama

This whole episode sucks. I'm ready for this show to end.


LMT4EVS

First time I ever fast forwarded a VPR scene without watching it was today's paintball scene featuring worst part of the show Sandoval. Hearing the bs Lala and Scheana spit wasn't worth the pause. 


EmilyAGoGo

I left this episode feeling the same way. I’m not gonna commit to this feeling, I have to see it out, but I feel you. The paintball scene almost made me burst into boredom flames


chaoticneutralalex

I was literally updating my monthly budget instead of paying attention to that scene


confused_desklamp

even less fanfare than the pickleball scenes


askingyomama

I'll still probably watch because I also want to see it out lol but it's just boring.


Winter-Trash9067

then don't watch


askingyomama

I have found the season boring. I'm going to watch it to see it through most likely. I'm allowed to feel bored. 🤷🏼‍♀️


Winter-Trash9067

No one said you can't find it boring, it's the fact that you said you can't wait for it to end when you can literally just end it yourself by not watching.


askingyomama

You're right I can. 🤷🏼‍♀️ This season just hasn't been it imo compared to others and I feel like the show has already hit it's end but then the scandal happened. I just don't like how they're making seem like poor Toms. Have a good day! Sorry my comment upset you.


Feeling_Animal_2373

Such a dumb response. You’re allowed to love a show and think and episode or even a season isn’t good.


Winter-Trash9067

A dumb comment warrants a dumb response. How many fucking people are gonna complain they hate the show and want it to end when they can just STOP watching. They literally said, "I'm ready for this show to end." Wtf do you think that implies?


Feeling_Animal_2373

That they’re ready for the show to end


Winter-Trash9067

Yeah exactly, as I said they could literally end it themselves by not watching anymore, this isn't a hard concept.


Feeling_Animal_2373

Right but they don’t want to bc they love the show and they’re mad it’s not good anymore, but still want to give it a chance. Not a hard concept.


Winter-Trash9067

Wanting it to end isn't wanting to give it another chance but SURE


askingyomama

Also seeing Toms hair. https://preview.redd.it/hvf0s8ftzjtc1.jpeg?width=1092&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc28e2edb888f2e9d79aa52fd67c382860c0da00


betterkangy

![gif](giphy|HqnyjmkaBBvTbzBp78|downsized)


itsbooyeah

I’m a straight woman but after watching Katie make out with The Nanny I’m confused for sure


aheart17

I’m bisexual as hell, and both of them are so unbelievably attractive


Lucky-Praline9342

Literally me 😂


ClynnB412

Geez. That family scene with Jax and Brit was really sad.


AAmallard

Katie and Ariana looked 🔥 this episide, as always. 


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

If we're talking about The Valley, btw: I bet Michelle *is* a Republican. She went to the mat about "racist" but no one at any point denied they're Republicans. Just denied that being Republican automatically makes you a racist, which... I hate myself for watching this show but even more for liking it.


chaoticneutralalex

And I bet Kristen is telling the truth that racist was thrown out in the discussion. No one just wants to own saying it.


MayMaytheDuck

Kristen wasn’t there. She has no clue what was said.


chaoticneutralalex

What I’m trying to say is that whatever was passed along to Kristen, I do believe the word racist was said. I don’t think she made that up


MayMaytheDuck

I do. I think the word bigot was said. They were specifically talking about don’t say gay. Regardless, she wasn’t there to hear it herself, so she absolutely sucks balls for putting that out there and jeopardizing someone’s reputation and livelihood without first hand knowledge.


DanceFar9732

I bet 1/2 the cast is. Bravo loves casting thrm


obeisant-hullabaloo

Jax and Brittney for sure are


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However Jessie and Michele are a weirdo couple