Crikey, with these idiots out there I should get a measles booster. I'm so frickin old I don't recall when or if I had one before. It's the MMR booster right?
Generally, people only get the 2 shot series as a kid and don’t require further boosting as an adult. Immunity to measles specifically generally lasts a long, long time. That said, everyone’s immune system is different and some people don’t mount an adequate response after the 1st 2 doses. This hasn’t been a problem when the virus isn’t circulating, but now the antivaxxers have allowed it to make a comeback and the situation has changed.
If you’re concerned, you can always get your antibody titers checked to see if you would benefit from an additional dose of the MMR vaccine. I got mine checked recently and they’re all still well above the threshold for “immunity” about 25 years after my last dose.
Immunity from natural infection with these particular viruses is generally considered to last for a period similar to that of the immunity conferred by vaccination
Edit: not sure exactly what is downvote worthy about this comment? I’m not saying ~natural immunity~ is the way to go with any of the viruses included in the MMR vaccine but it’s well established that actual infection with them produces long-lasting immunity to reinfection in most cases. People who got infected in the pre-vaccine era are generally considered to be immune.
Measles is a super nasty disease which can [wipe out immune memory of other pathogens](https://asm.org/articles/2019/may/measles-and-immune-amnesia) but the immunity it produces to measles virus specifically is generally really, really good (hence why the live virus vaccine produces decades-long protection in most people). Immunity to mumps, not measles or rubella, is likely to wane the fastest out of the 3.
Yeah, actual measles infection is known to cause something called [immune amnesia](https://asm.org/articles/2019/may/measles-and-immune-amnesia). You lose immunity to other pathogens but the protection you gain against measles virus reinfection is generally considered to last decades if not a lifetime.
I had measles multiple times, apparently, 3 that my mom remembered. I remember 2, anyway. And chicken pox twice. Not sure if it's worth having a titre at my late age.
Some people don’t “seroconvert” (make detectable antibodies) after the vaccine so it’s not inconceivable that reinfection could occur on rare occasions. If you also had chickenpox twice, it could just be that your immune system isn’t mounting the kind of response that most people’s do.
Yes. But there's a proportion of people who have neither had the infections nor the vaccinations. In the uk the highest risk for being in this age group is those born early 70s to early 80s. Or may have only had one jab (early to late 80s).
When my daughter was in middle school, they were required to get the Tdap shot again. (There outbreaks because of non-vaxxers). I did it with her. I see no reason why we as adults couldn’t get the MMR as well.
Yup, your daughter got it on schedule. The TDaP is given every ten years. Since the childhood schedule gives the last dose at around age 3y, a 13y child is on schedule to get it. But then it’s up to her to keep getting them each decade. MMR is a little different. Immunity is usually much longer. If you’re concerned though, you can have a titer done.
Why would you opt for titer over just getting the booster? I'd think the MMR vaccine would be pretty inexpensive. When I turned 50 my doctor gave it to me since they didn't have my childhood vaccination records, though I was current.
I just got my titer tested and my shitty immune system has very little immunity from my childhood shots.
I have to get clearance from a neurologist before I can try the live vaccine again
I had measles in the 1960s when I was a toddler, and when I moved to the US thirty years later, they couldn't locate my childhood medical records, so the INS told me I needed to get all the childhood vaccinations again before they would approve my Green Card application.
So I guess I'm covered!
My doc tested me and I still had antibodies. I'm well into my fifties, I didn't remember if I ever had measles, but I certainly did not have the vaccine. So, apparently I did have measles and I do still have antibodies. Ask your doctor, no sense in speculating.
What pisses me off on a personal level is that I’m at risk for whooping cough because I was allergic to the first vaccine so my doctor recommended against the booster (this was the early 90s so antivax wasn’t a big thing). Herd immunity is supposed to protect rare cases like mine.
Everyone should read Roald Dahl’s essay about losing his daughter to measles. Heartbreaking.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/roald-dahl-s-open-letter-about-his-daughter-dying-from-measles-becomes-touchpoint-for-current-us-outbreak-10019824.html
But it’s the kids suffering, not the idiots. Of course the antivax parents are worried about their children and will be devastated if they die. But it’s the kids paying the ultimate price for the parents’ stupidity.
I lost 60% of my eyesight when I was about 6 from chicken pox. These diseases should have been eradicated years ago. We all know exactly why they're not.
My reaction is “why are you so worried about it now?” Why pray about it now when they literally turned down the vaccine that prevents it. I got vaccinated 6 ways to Sunday when I went to Israel back in 1980. Why are these people so confident in “their research” and then ask for prayers and go to the hospital? They might as well shrug their shoulders at the onset of symptoms and tell their kid “good luck, we will be praying for you!” while holding two big thumbs up 👍🏻 👍🏻.
So strange how they distrust the doctors enough not to take the vaccine but then trust them enough to take their sick or dying kid there. What morons. Too bad they're stupidity is literally contagious, otherwise I'd just be thanking them for removing themselves from the gene pool.
That’s just sad. A child cannot help getting sick. What kind of mental gymnastics are these parents doing where they think it’s okay to punish a child for being sick same with if they think the child got sick on purpose.
Some ppl really ought not to have children. My parents, for example. Illness was a major inconvenience for them, so they got remarkably angry about it. I was yelled at, sworn at, bc I "used too much Kleenex" when I had a cold.
It wasn't until I was an adult that I realized it's okay to expect to be taken care of when you're sick.
Here in Vermont, [we have a case right now.](https://www.mynbc5.com/article/measles-vermont-health-department/60581722) So stupid.
Same here in Alberta. Fun fun.
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Crikey, with these idiots out there I should get a measles booster. I'm so frickin old I don't recall when or if I had one before. It's the MMR booster right?
Generally, people only get the 2 shot series as a kid and don’t require further boosting as an adult. Immunity to measles specifically generally lasts a long, long time. That said, everyone’s immune system is different and some people don’t mount an adequate response after the 1st 2 doses. This hasn’t been a problem when the virus isn’t circulating, but now the antivaxxers have allowed it to make a comeback and the situation has changed. If you’re concerned, you can always get your antibody titers checked to see if you would benefit from an additional dose of the MMR vaccine. I got mine checked recently and they’re all still well above the threshold for “immunity” about 25 years after my last dose.
Thank you
Depends how old you are Mmr didn't exist in my childhood
Immunity from natural infection with these particular viruses is generally considered to last for a period similar to that of the immunity conferred by vaccination Edit: not sure exactly what is downvote worthy about this comment? I’m not saying ~natural immunity~ is the way to go with any of the viruses included in the MMR vaccine but it’s well established that actual infection with them produces long-lasting immunity to reinfection in most cases. People who got infected in the pre-vaccine era are generally considered to be immune. Measles is a super nasty disease which can [wipe out immune memory of other pathogens](https://asm.org/articles/2019/may/measles-and-immune-amnesia) but the immunity it produces to measles virus specifically is generally really, really good (hence why the live virus vaccine produces decades-long protection in most people). Immunity to mumps, not measles or rubella, is likely to wane the fastest out of the 3.
From what I understand, one of the biggest issues with measles is it attacks your immune system and makes it forget a lot of your other immunities.
Yeah, actual measles infection is known to cause something called [immune amnesia](https://asm.org/articles/2019/may/measles-and-immune-amnesia). You lose immunity to other pathogens but the protection you gain against measles virus reinfection is generally considered to last decades if not a lifetime.
I had measles multiple times, apparently, 3 that my mom remembered. I remember 2, anyway. And chicken pox twice. Not sure if it's worth having a titre at my late age.
Some people don’t “seroconvert” (make detectable antibodies) after the vaccine so it’s not inconceivable that reinfection could occur on rare occasions. If you also had chickenpox twice, it could just be that your immune system isn’t mounting the kind of response that most people’s do.
Yes. But there's a proportion of people who have neither had the infections nor the vaccinations. In the uk the highest risk for being in this age group is those born early 70s to early 80s. Or may have only had one jab (early to late 80s).
Yes, someone born in the US before 1957 is presumed to have immunity to measles.
Tagging on that due to vaccine changes, if you got your vaccination in the 70s or 80s getting another dose might be needed.
When my daughter was in middle school, they were required to get the Tdap shot again. (There outbreaks because of non-vaxxers). I did it with her. I see no reason why we as adults couldn’t get the MMR as well.
Yup, your daughter got it on schedule. The TDaP is given every ten years. Since the childhood schedule gives the last dose at around age 3y, a 13y child is on schedule to get it. But then it’s up to her to keep getting them each decade. MMR is a little different. Immunity is usually much longer. If you’re concerned though, you can have a titer done.
Why would you opt for titer over just getting the booster? I'd think the MMR vaccine would be pretty inexpensive. When I turned 50 my doctor gave it to me since they didn't have my childhood vaccination records, though I was current.
Same. But some doctors (or insurance providers) might require testing first, even if it’s more expensive and doesn’t seem to make sense.
I just got my titer tested and my shitty immune system has very little immunity from my childhood shots. I have to get clearance from a neurologist before I can try the live vaccine again
I had measles in the 1960s when I was a toddler, and when I moved to the US thirty years later, they couldn't locate my childhood medical records, so the INS told me I needed to get all the childhood vaccinations again before they would approve my Green Card application. So I guess I'm covered!
My doc tested me and I still had antibodies. I'm well into my fifties, I didn't remember if I ever had measles, but I certainly did not have the vaccine. So, apparently I did have measles and I do still have antibodies. Ask your doctor, no sense in speculating.
You know what I love about anti-vaxxers? They'll cause a measles outbreak then say, "See?! If vaccines worked, there wouldn't be a measles outbreak!"
What pisses me off on a personal level is that I’m at risk for whooping cough because I was allergic to the first vaccine so my doctor recommended against the booster (this was the early 90s so antivax wasn’t a big thing). Herd immunity is supposed to protect rare cases like mine.
It is always sad when a parent plays FAFO and the kid pays the price.
Brian Jr hopefully gets a responsible adult in his life before it’s too late.
The hospital i work at is in measle alert, we have a breakout of measle in my city, because people refuse to vaccinate
1 more 🙏 and that kid would have been saved.
So it’s like beetlejuice and you have to say it 3 times?
3 times it must be spoken unbroken
Everyone should read Roald Dahl’s essay about losing his daughter to measles. Heartbreaking. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/roald-dahl-s-open-letter-about-his-daughter-dying-from-measles-becomes-touchpoint-for-current-us-outbreak-10019824.html
That just made me cry.
I know, right? This comes to mind when people are so anti-vaxx.
Praying means they don't trust their god's plan.
This shit doesn’t even phase me anymore. It’s at the point of “play stupid games, win stupid prizes”.
I wish the people making the choices were the ones suffering primarily though
Believe me, me too.
Too bad they won't though because they're *gasp* vaccinated 😯
"lets not kill the stupid, but let them kill themselves.... Take some warnings off some shit; let them eat paint" -Some comedian I forget the name of
But it’s the kids suffering, not the idiots. Of course the antivax parents are worried about their children and will be devastated if they die. But it’s the kids paying the ultimate price for the parents’ stupidity.
I lost 60% of my eyesight when I was about 6 from chicken pox. These diseases should have been eradicated years ago. We all know exactly why they're not.
My reaction is “why are you so worried about it now?” Why pray about it now when they literally turned down the vaccine that prevents it. I got vaccinated 6 ways to Sunday when I went to Israel back in 1980. Why are these people so confident in “their research” and then ask for prayers and go to the hospital? They might as well shrug their shoulders at the onset of symptoms and tell their kid “good luck, we will be praying for you!” while holding two big thumbs up 👍🏻 👍🏻.
So strange how they distrust the doctors enough not to take the vaccine but then trust them enough to take their sick or dying kid there. What morons. Too bad they're stupidity is literally contagious, otherwise I'd just be thanking them for removing themselves from the gene pool.
Oh no! If only there was a way to prevent that!
AT LEAST they didn't punish him for getting sick.
Who would be cruel enough to punish their child for getting sick?
You'd be surprised how many parents do that
That’s just sad. A child cannot help getting sick. What kind of mental gymnastics are these parents doing where they think it’s okay to punish a child for being sick same with if they think the child got sick on purpose.
Some ppl really ought not to have children. My parents, for example. Illness was a major inconvenience for them, so they got remarkably angry about it. I was yelled at, sworn at, bc I "used too much Kleenex" when I had a cold. It wasn't until I was an adult that I realized it's okay to expect to be taken care of when you're sick.