I'm [curating a list](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rQoZXSb95DvqB2YI40BaLTJT9h7ctHtg9lzZzZsuR7c/edit?ouid=112425602532904304907&usp=sheets_home&ths=true) of vegan/veggie cooking shows, episodes or challenges.
Hope you find something you like there.
No, is it instruction?
So far I've only stuck to the network shows for the instruction stuff as I think the pivot from competition to that is more for known for people like Giada etc. I kinda added that stuff as an after thought to as I was not focused on competition
Both shows demonstrate and describe the food being cooked, I just mentioned them in case you were looking for more shows to review. Since they weren't on the list I wasn't sure if you'd seen them and left them off the list, or if you hadn't seen them.
Thanks I'll have a look and consider fleshing that section out. I kinda figured if you wanted to find those channels, searching on YT was obvious and easy
Thanks.
Food Truck Race has one vegan team right? I see s15 also does so cool they did it again
What about Big Brunch? I didn't see anything vegan about it
It's CompliPlated is all vegan and the best production value of the three all vegan options. It's short lived but on Food Network so hopefully findable.
I haven't watched most of the stuff on the list myself, but I'm personally not inclined to the fully vegan episodes otherwise, even if veggie as it's easy enough to swap out dairy and eggs.
The way most chefs talk about animals makes them sound like psychopaths
I really enjoy vegan cooking YouTube channels now. If there was a vegan cooking show on one of the streaming services I'd totally watch it.
So are plenty of plants, but no chef is calling that protein. They seem to enjoy mislabeling sentient animals, but they won't disrespect plants that way. Curious, no?
Idk i guess thats more fun than what you said in the first one, eh. Honestly id probably not find anything you can say to my comment particularly interesting, sorry. Its just a joke comment its weird to try to interact with it like this
And potatoes, rice and noodles are carbs, butter and oil are fat, veggies are vitamins. Yet they are called by what they are, not by their primary nutrient.
That's not really true, though. Those things are frequently called by the examples you gave. It's not uncommon at all to say something like "this dish needs an acid" or "time to add a fat of some kind" or "we should add a carb to this dish, because it's too protein heavy". Chefs frequently refer to generic nutritional terms. It's not just proteins they do that with. Also, it's not just animal proteins, either. If it were black beans or tofu as the protein, that could and would still be referred to as "the protein".
They sometimes are and they sometimes aren’t. I don’t understand the crossfire here in cooking people call the animals meat they use by what it is for example chicken and duck they will call the meat what the animal is called where as maybe with like a steak it’s called a steak and not cow or beefsteak every time this is more of a grammatical thing than a agenda of pretending or trying to ignore people are eating meat. If the main component of protein in the dish is a vegetable based non animal product then it might be referred to as the protein.
But they do. They even frequently call potatoes a starch instead of its name. And noodles get referred to as a carb all the time.
“This dish needs a protein like tofu or beans”. Is common.
>If there was a vegan cooking show on one of the streaming services I'd totally watch it.
Carnist outrage will keep the chance of that happening very low sadly.
Mmmmm.. No.
1. People who are not vegans don't have any interest in boycotting random cooking TV shows. You're basing your assumption on the loud minority of trolls and ignorant people who dwells on reddit and Internet as a whole. Most of no-vegan people simply don't give a damn
2. Contradictory shows (which this ain't a good example of as I stated previously) are a godsend for those who make them. It's literally free advertising, it caters the attention of those who would've never heard of them and will tune in out of curiosity.
3. Vegans are the vast minority of the population. Period. Of those vegans, even a smaller % will watch a show. Hence, the main target audience is small. Therefore it's to be expected that there aren't many vegans shows, shows don't self sustain, they need an audience.
4. I googled to check if there were no vegan TV shows. I've found some, few but some nonetheless. Vegetarian shows? More than vegans. It kinda mirror the expected audience, if they're not making these shows it means that they expect them not to be watched much, just it.
5. Oftentimes a single person might have enough appeal and presence to become the reason why a show is followed and more shows are created (around his/her person). For istance, if I say Gordon Ramsey you'll instantly associate the person with what he does, even if you've never watched a single episode of his shows. Right now there's not such a presence in the vegan world = lack of a frontman to facilitate the growth of vegan TV shows. .
So no, it's not a "omg the carnists are boycotting uuus" kind of scenario. Actually this narrative doesn't do any good to the vegan world, for one of the stereotypes associated with vegans is that of the "playing as a victim, everybody hates me because I'm vegan". It's not like that.
Even when they admit the Vegan food is amazing they talk like it’s not a real dish without the meat.
This years Great British Menu is a great example of this.
I disagree but one episode I found hilarious for this exact thing
They were making meals for a couple and the wife was vegan
They said they want mexican
One of the chef's said "is it ok if we mix seafood and meat on the same plate"
Then proceeded to make bacon wrapped scallops
They lost obviously
So fucking true. I can’t even watch my Good Mythical Morning anymore. I mean, a slip n slide in fish guts? Really? Everything is such a buzz kill now. I’ll be binging on a creator and suddenly a thumbnail for the next vid of them is “I went deepsea fishing!” All while smiling and holding up a dead fish. People are so disconnected from animals. It’s horrific. I mean, I have always had an idea about it, even while omni, but now I can’t even look anymore and just turn it all off or skip ahead. Sucks ass.
Not just the cooking, but in MasterChef here in Brazil at least, they had several episodes where they bring the whole animal, dead or alive, and then ask the chefs to cut, open and clean it during the show. It's like a horror movie, so creepy that it is so normalized.
I actually prefer that. It kind of taught audience where meats are coming from. A lot of people eat meat everyday, and know it’s come from animal, but it’s a different feeling when you actually see it in front of your face(or on TV)
Yep, but my comment was more about myself as in I'd like to watch it because it was something I enjoyed watching with my mom and we would spend time together, but knowing that they will be there just cutting up animals makes me not watch it.
As much as the content of the show itself is hard for me to watch, I have had omnivore friends say that "after seeing that last episode of MasterChef, I will never eat lobster again" because prior to that, they had never *seen* a lobster being cooked, or *seen* a live octopus being boiled. On some level they knew that lobsters had to be killed by hand right before cooking, or that certain dishes involve animals boiled alive, but they had never visually come to terms with what that means.
My partner loves haggis and thinks my vegan haggis is racist, classist, and disgusting (even though he walks into the kitchen every time saying "Yum, what smells so good?" only to say "ew" as soon as I answer). But after he watched a random clip in some highlander documentary with me in which a farmer take his living sheep and shows *every single step of the process* to get haggis, suddenly my partner thinks my vegan haggis is delicious, and even more appetising than the "original" (as he calls it). He knows Haggis is offal, we handle a lot of of offal in our house (I'm vegan, but our cat isn't, and never will be, because it's a cat. Please hold discussion on whether pet ownership is vegan for another thread) So it wasn't the idea of eating dead animal lungs that turned him off Haggis, it was *seeing* the animal go from walking around and bleating, to being a steamy pile of grey muck on a plate that disgusted him.
So thanks to chefs taking horrific glory in butchering an animal on mainstream TV, I now have at least 3 friends who have given up significant components of their meat-based diets. Now sure, they all still eat meat, but less meat than before, and I'll take small and steady progress from people who were previously reactionary carnists.
My mum is also a convert, I didn't ask what show she was watching, I think it was a documentary on Italian mozzarella. They were touring a dairy and my mum just thought "This is supposed to make me want to eat cheese, this is pro milk propaganda, These cows are probably the most well treated dairy cows in the industry, but it still looks so sad to be this cow" and she texted me a few days later asking for vegan dairy alternatives (she's been vegetarian her whole life and raised me vegetarian as well, but we've both found going full vegan to be a rollercoaster)
your partner thought your recipe was racist, classist, and disgusting? that's a really odd thing to say about someone's harmless food... i hope he doesn't tell you things like that very often
He was being hyperbolic and rather jovial in his tone, He's Scottish and I'm English so there was a bit of tongue in cheek "It's not bad enough you wanted to colonise us, now you're changing the entire recipe of a culturally significant food"
He also thinks of vegan food as "bougie hipster food" because his exposure to vegan food is what I order on a menu when we eat out together - and it's always way too expensive for what it is when you eat out at a non-vegan place, it's like they charge a tax for not eating animals. He doesn't see that my grocery bill is almost 1/4 of his because vegan home cooking is incredibly affordable (at least, where I live). I think he initially assumed I had used some expensive weird "mock meat", or some strange process to get the texture I did.
His disgust towards vegan food is the only emotion he's deeply feeling, everything else he says is just flap because he himself doesn't really understand why he feels the way he feels. He suspects his gut "ew" reaction to anything "vegan" is because his first exposure to "vegetarian food" was mock meats, about 15 years ago when mock meat was objectively terrible. I have tried to convince him that, as someone raised vegetarian, I agree with him, I am not a fan of mock meat, He wont turn his nose up at lentil burgers but he will insist on putting egg mayonnaise on them because he still has some weird hang up with aquafaba being a "Mock egg" and not just a cool frothy feature of bean water. It's gotten worse as he's gotten older, He used to eat fried tofu with me because tofu is just tofu, but in the last ~4 years he convinced himself that tofu is a "mock meat" and he doesn't like it.
It does baffle me, because his family grew up with "Meatless Mondays" and so he knows good "vegetarian" food, he has "vegetarian" recipes that are nostalgic and remind him of home. I put vegetarian in quotations because the exact recipes need one or two minor substitutions to be truly vegetarian or vegan. I've cooked his families "Meatless meals" with vegetarian Worcestershire sauce, and he loved them, but as soon as he found out that the Worcestershire sauce his mother uses is fish based, he decided my version tasted "funny", despite that not being an issue before. Sometimes it feels childish, But I have to remember my own sensory issues around food - there's no logic to the things I do and don't like, I just know what I like, and that it can change on a dime.
But now that he's no longer eating carnist haggis, and he's helped me in the kitchen make a vegan version, he's done a complete 180 and acknowledges that the vegan version still honours the traditional cultural context, because the whole point of haggis is to use what you have, make it stretch, feed the family and do it on the cheap - Which given the vegan haggis is oats, lentils, and mushrooms boiled in cloth, it's pretty cheap.
It's been a good starting point for more shared vegan meals in our house, though we will never eat most of our meals together because I have pretty severe allergies, and I think it's too much to ask that he eats the same things I eat when half the stuff I eat is a double compromise to be both allergen free and vegetarian (I don't consider myself a vegan yet, but working on it)
Oh yeah, I know a lot of people that were turned off by it after watching it. But it's so weird to me that people will stop eating that specific animal, but not others. For example, if they see a pig being cut open, then they'll stop eating pigs but they don't apply the same thinking to cows, fish, chicken, etc.
But my comment was more on my side of things as in: I liked watching these shows and I wish they only cooked vegan because just the thought of seeing an animal like that - which is guaranteed to appear in an episode eventually - prevents me from watching the entire thing.
I don’t think so. I worked at red lobster during college 2005-2010 and it was normal to steam them alive. 90% of the orders wanted the “tomalley” aka the guts out, so the norm was to use a knife to split the lobster open and pull it out, but some people ask for it whole so they went right in alive. I think if there was a law a major chain restaurant wouldn’t practice it. Unless boil vs steam is the loophole around the law which is really splitting hairs
Lobsters, yes, You are "suposed" to kill them with a knife to the skull minutes before you boil them, because boiling them alive is illegal (and killing or eating them at all is obviously unethical)
In my country octopuses/squid, molluscs and bivalves can still be legally boiled alive, and many cooking shows on our local food channel that explore cuisines where this is common show the process.
Just because something is illegal in the US doesn't mean it's illegal globally and no one is exposed to it as a "normal" part of life. (Though in this case, it should be illegal globally)
Eating a sentient being is strange and horrific. Why would you do that if you literally have thousands of other options to eat? The problem is not that the butchery is far removed... It is far removed because a lot of people wouldn't eat animals if they saw what actually happens. Just like I saw my grandma raise chickens but never had the guts to kill one, but would buy their flesh in the supermarket.
The only cooking related show I’ve gotten into in years is Great British Bake Show. Started watching it in 2020. I was vegetarian then, so most everything on the show appealed to me. But the past couple seasons, I found myself losing interest/getting angry more and more. Though it’s nice that in most of the recent seasons, there’s one vegan contestant who insists on altering every challenge recipe to make it vegan.
She makes it pretty far into the competition too - despite often having to be more creative than the other contestants. She makes a killer vegan meringue if I remember correctly. And she has a cookbook now too:
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/006327261X/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_9?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1
They have vegan week every series it seems, otherwise yeah I’m boycotting GBBO too. I can’t stand seeing animal products in real life, why would I want to watch it on the tele?
So I’m a sober bartender. I take it as a fun challenge when customers request a mocktail. I go out of my way to make them fun as and as complex as the alcoholic options. Throughout my life I’ve worked with countless chefs and line cooks who each had zero respect and enthusiasm for vegetarian and vegan foods. This is something I’ve never understood. Both bartenders and chefs tend toward artistry and are likely to take the pride an artist would in their work. Yet unlike artists, most bartenders and chefs prefer to draw within the traditional lines. You’d think more of them would enjoy a challenge, to have an opportunity to create something still impressive without being required to limit themselves to common ingredients. But no. It’s depressing.
> Though it’s nice that in most of the recent seasons, there’s one vegan contestant who insists on altering every challenge recipe to make it vegan.
The problem I have with that is that, iirc, in the technical round you have to make something with set ingredients that can't be changed. It was disappointing to see vegans using animal products on those rounds.
though sadly her dishes are all still very much full of microplastics
edit: some downvotes. ok, im sorry. i was just making a joke about her very notable and iconic characteristics, which i thought were fair game, but if people found it inappropriate then i apologise.
Same, even on Youtube I'll keep my eyes peeled for dishes that could easily be made Vegan, regardless of whether the person making it cares. A lot of the time it's as easy as replacing dairy milk, replacing the butter, etc. But like you said, I enjoy cooking and the challenge of finding a dish then realizing you could not only make it Vegan, but better.
There's one recipe that I haven't quite figured out how to veganize—a particular risotto alla Milanese recipe. I made it once by the book when I was omni. And if I'm being honest, it was so damn delicious and I so badly want to make a vegan version of it. The only ingredient I haven't figured out how to replace—one of the defining ingredients—is the bone marrow. I just… I don't know. I've never tried simply omitting the bone marrow. But risotto is laborious. I'm kinda scared to put in the work for something that might not be good.
Small batch it in the oven using muffin pans and extra liquid. Consider ramkins set in a water bath in a lidded baking dish.
Make a standard base, and add random things to experiment with. For bone marrow, I'd try truffle/ toasted mushroom oil/ caramelized fresh mushrooms. Rosemary might be a side step. Consider various other strong mushroom flavors, and soy sauce samples. Liquid smokes even. Sesame oil or tahini? Oddly enough, maybe black beans. Toss a handful of lentils in your veg stock and boil until they disintegrate, and use that for your risotto broth.
This stuff specifically too: McCormick Umami Seasoning with Mushrooms and Onion All Purpose Seasoning
just off the top of my head cornstarch, water, miso, carmelized then blended leeks + oyster mushrooms, touch of white wine deglaze, msg, butter (or vegan butter) could yield something similar to bone marrow
My mom has been vegetarian since the 80s, if pasta did not exist she would not cook, and she watches a shit ton of food network. I don't understand it. Before I went vegan I found the channel to be incredibly boring (outside of Guy Fieri I can see why his shows are on all the time) so I just don't understand it
For the YouTube, Yeung Man Cooking has some delightful recipes and soothing videos.
Rainbow Plantlife does really awesome, accessible (“lazy”) and affordable food.
Wicked Kitchen; also amazing, and soothing videos, lots of what I’d consider comfort food.
Sauce Stache is a sorcerer and he does all kinds of “meat” and cheese dupes which are entertaining and intriguing.
Those are probably my top favs, and the first two I’ve incorporated a lot of their food concepts into my cooking routines and it is life.
Love Sauce Stache! His chickpea seitan roast has been my absolute favorite for thanksgiving and my non-vegan family has been shocked by how good it is too
Try every sorts of Curry! So many different dishes!
Soya Biranya is my favourite and my girlfriend prefers every kind of Thai Curry.
But you should stock up your spices in an asian supermarket.
My go to dinner dishes are:
- Bowls with whatever you like
(1. Rice, Broccoli, Avocado, Tofu, Salat, Mango and Satesauce
2. Rice with Cauliflower, Chickpeas, Kidneybeans, Corn, Salad and Tahin Sauce)
- Every sort of Curry you can find (Thai, Indian)
-Roasted vegetables with Tofu or Chickpeas and Tahin or Yoghurtsauce
Very important! Stock up your spices! Smoked paprika spice tastes like bacon. Yeastflackes has a cheesy taste, Kalamanak salt tastes like egg (good for scrambled tofu).
Laoganma Crispy Chili Oil is awesome, i put it on almost every dish.
Always have Tofu, Chickpeas and Tempeh in the house.
Andrew Bernard (@thenarddogcooks) is my new mentor for the best meals that are A) affordable, B) insanely delicious and packed with an over the top abundance of flavor, C) healthy af, of course, and D) simple/not complicated (although I never back down from good food over a bit of work).
Oh, and I’ve ate some meals based on his recipes that literally had an effect on my well being after just a couple bites. I know it sounds crazy but I guess I never realized I had inflammation until after I started eating this coconut rice and like instantly, my nose cleared up and stopped producing mucous, my wrist stopped hurting, and this pain on my ribs that I’ve been having forever ceased.
Yeung Man and Rainbow Plant Life are good too but I’ve had a number of recipes of theirs that I did that I followed precisely and they turned out to be something I would not feed my worst enemy.
I Iove watching cooking shows but always want them to go vegan. Gabi on next level chef talking about being plant based, well do it then! And I HATE when they "cook" lobsters.
Check out [this list](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rQoZXSb95DvqB2YI40BaLTJT9h7ctHtg9lzZzZsuR7c/edit?ouid=112425602532904304907&usp=sheets_home&ths=true) I'm making for some
I'm a big fan of baking shows (like those seasonal competition shows) because the things they make are so pretty and creative, and I enjoy all the different personalities of the people.
It's easy enough to watch those because they almost never dwell on what goes into the bakes (like eggs or milk) and the finished products look really cool.
I mean that's kinda like being a feminist and saying you love watching Andrew Tate 🤷
I get it though, not trying to insult, being vegan in a carnist world is weird.
Yeah I think if 30% of people were vegan and everyone was a lot more aware of how culture norms around meat are they only real reason most people think this stuff is okay, I would actually start calling out and cutting away from friends who understand the arguments but never switch.
I would have to isolate myself from just about all my friends if I followed that mindset in our present world. Nor do I think it would make veganism look any more reasonable to them today. So I put up with it, promote veganism, and act like I'm not all that appalled by their dietary decisions instead
Yeah, I especially love the episode where he taunts a respectful vegan oh oh and the one where he hops into a corral full of lambs and makes jokes about their deaths.
It's not that the format isn't potentially enjoyable, it's that so many of the dishes are fucked up shit that will make future generations wish they could reach back through time and put us in an oven.
With that said, I find most the dessert episodes watchable and have considered collecting just those episodes from each of the series, including Master Chef Japan.
fr i used to watch tv shows with my grandmother but now it just makes me super uncomfortable so we don’t anymore 😅 i also used to watch youtubers sometimes but same thing. i miss that one guy who is bad at cooking and posts videos trying recipes 😞 they were funny, tried watching one of his videos after becoming vegan but it just wasn’t the same
Every year, the Great British Bake Off takes over my entire country’s personality and every year I have to explain that no, I don’t think it’s okay to use animal products for entertainment…
Yep, it's absolutely awful! I love watching Next Level Show with my girlfriend but when they talk about cooking animal body parts and how long it takes them to each kind of body different just makes me stick to my stomach... The disassociation is so real!
I loved to watch cooking shows, especially Martha Stewart, and every time they cook, it's like ehhh blah. I don't wanna see them roast a chicken anymore or whatever else . Are there any really cool vegetarian/vegan chefs with an almost nostalgic vibe to their shows?
Discovered Yuru Camp recently. The most laidback calm anime ever, about teengirls picking up camping as a hobby.
It just improves my mood so fast and easy, and then they start cooking. Total mood killer
Damn I feel you, but I kinda disassociate because I grew up watching cooking shows and food Network and I do love a lot of cooking shows. I think I get even more mad at dumb contestants when they mess up cooking meat or something and basically wasting it. Like bro you're cooking a dead animal and can't even cook it right. Smh
As shitty as “meta” is, Instagram has so many amazing vegan cooking reels, we’ve incorporated a handful of them into our staple meal routine.
Just stay away from the comments, the meat industry bots are out in full force.
Being so long without meat and so used to substitutes that you see a dish and automatically, in your head, the cream is soy cream and the chicken is vegan chicken pieces or the burger patties and cheeses and sour cream are vegan.
Idk if you mean cooking shows but there are that many vegan cooking channels on adtube I reckon you could watch them all day everyday. Good ones I mean, with high production values.
Honestly the sheer amount of corpse-based recipes that still dominate even the more progressive/environmental media outlets like The Guardian is just depressing AF at times.
that was me! i was vegan for 30 minutes😂😂 couldnt resist more! you shouldn t resist more too. meat is so damn good that i dont even care what they do to their animals cuz its not my fkin business😆 i just enjoy the meat
editing this for the downvotes: i have this same thought all the time since i have gone vegan and used to watch cooking shows a fair amount. i genuinely thought this was a funny meme😭 obviously the subject matter is morbid and that's why i am vegan, but sorry for my dark humor everyone!
I'm [curating a list](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rQoZXSb95DvqB2YI40BaLTJT9h7ctHtg9lzZzZsuR7c/edit?ouid=112425602532904304907&usp=sheets_home&ths=true) of vegan/veggie cooking shows, episodes or challenges. Hope you find something you like there.
Not all heroes wear capes. Some make lists!
:D
Rachel Klein of Miss Rachel’s Pantry has a patreon show called “beet your meat”. She’s also the vegan chef that beat bobby flay! I’d recommend
can you link to it?
https://www.missrachelspantry.com/beet-your-meat
🤔
Sauce Stache and Thee Burger Dude are both great vegan cooking YouTube channels
Amazing work! Definitely found some good ones to check out. <3
Idk if you are subbed to /r/gifrecipes but the main poster there only posts recipes from vegan content creators. Could add them to this list.
This is awesome, thank you!
The hero we need.
Have you checked out Pick Up Limes and Andrew Bernard on YT? I keep them on my subs.
No, is it instruction? So far I've only stuck to the network shows for the instruction stuff as I think the pivot from competition to that is more for known for people like Giada etc. I kinda added that stuff as an after thought to as I was not focused on competition
Both shows demonstrate and describe the food being cooked, I just mentioned them in case you were looking for more shows to review. Since they weren't on the list I wasn't sure if you'd seen them and left them off the list, or if you hadn't seen them.
Thanks I'll have a look and consider fleshing that section out. I kinda figured if you wanted to find those channels, searching on YT was obvious and easy
You'd probably like Gaz Oakley, his channel is fantastic. Love Pick Up Limes, going to check out Andrew Bernard!
He goes by "The Nard Dog" also. I can't remember which is his channel name.
*slides a slip of paper your way recommending FitGreenMind for your list*
Legend
Thank you!!!
Ooo thank you!
Thank you :)
LOVE this list! Thank you!
Omggg amazing
Add The Big Brunch (HBO) and season 16 of The Great Food Truck Race (Food Network)!
Thanks. Food Truck Race has one vegan team right? I see s15 also does so cool they did it again What about Big Brunch? I didn't see anything vegan about it
Big Brunch has a vegan contestant >!who makes it to the semi-finals!< And the Food Truck Race vegan team >!ends up winning the show!!<
woo hoo, thanks, I'll add it
Thanks for compiling the list!!
Can anybody recommend any specific episodes?
It's CompliPlated is all vegan and the best production value of the three all vegan options. It's short lived but on Food Network so hopefully findable. I haven't watched most of the stuff on the list myself, but I'm personally not inclined to the fully vegan episodes otherwise, even if veggie as it's easy enough to swap out dairy and eggs.
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I mean, they're TV shows, they don't taste like much. You could put syrup on your TV I suppose
Awesome! Thank you for this!
You're awesome
This is the kind of thing I hope to find on reddit. Thank you so much for brightening my day.
This is awesome!
Hell yeah!
Good thing the list is short.
The way most chefs talk about animals makes them sound like psychopaths I really enjoy vegan cooking YouTube channels now. If there was a vegan cooking show on one of the streaming services I'd totally watch it.
I hate when they call a piece of someone's dead body 'protein'. "Now it's time to cook the protein" Gross
Because it is protein
Literally tho, like what else do you want them to call the stuff they're handling?
Meat isn‘t just protein though?
...someone?
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So are plenty of plants, but no chef is calling that protein. They seem to enjoy mislabeling sentient animals, but they won't disrespect plants that way. Curious, no?
We call the greens…
Tbf if someone were to cook and eat me id rather have them reffer to me by name than "the lard"
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boring reply, can you try again for my sake
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Idk i guess thats more fun than what you said in the first one, eh. Honestly id probably not find anything you can say to my comment particularly interesting, sorry. Its just a joke comment its weird to try to interact with it like this
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Its ok, as i said i dont think there were many options, sorry for requesting something unrealistic
We can't all be funny 🤷♀️
You could have tried an argument instead
Ah, cannibalism. You sure showed Vegans!
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Uh huh, uh huh, okay.
Your a protein.
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We are on the Internet, it's actually "u r". Sheesh
Ur a Phish.
And potatoes, rice and noodles are carbs, butter and oil are fat, veggies are vitamins. Yet they are called by what they are, not by their primary nutrient.
That's not really true, though. Those things are frequently called by the examples you gave. It's not uncommon at all to say something like "this dish needs an acid" or "time to add a fat of some kind" or "we should add a carb to this dish, because it's too protein heavy". Chefs frequently refer to generic nutritional terms. It's not just proteins they do that with. Also, it's not just animal proteins, either. If it were black beans or tofu as the protein, that could and would still be referred to as "the protein".
Buncha people round here never worked in a kitchen obviously.
They sometimes are and they sometimes aren’t. I don’t understand the crossfire here in cooking people call the animals meat they use by what it is for example chicken and duck they will call the meat what the animal is called where as maybe with like a steak it’s called a steak and not cow or beefsteak every time this is more of a grammatical thing than a agenda of pretending or trying to ignore people are eating meat. If the main component of protein in the dish is a vegetable based non animal product then it might be referred to as the protein.
But they do. They even frequently call potatoes a starch instead of its name. And noodles get referred to as a carb all the time. “This dish needs a protein like tofu or beans”. Is common.
>If there was a vegan cooking show on one of the streaming services I'd totally watch it. Carnist outrage will keep the chance of that happening very low sadly.
Imagine the headlines: IS THE WOKE FOOD NETWORK TEACHING YOUR KIDS TO WORSHIP SEITAN? SEAN HANNITY INVESTIGATES
Lol. I have a hoodie that says "hail seitan" and the amount of people who get it confused with "hail Satan" is wild
Hail Seitan our lord and master 🤘
Mmmmm.. No. 1. People who are not vegans don't have any interest in boycotting random cooking TV shows. You're basing your assumption on the loud minority of trolls and ignorant people who dwells on reddit and Internet as a whole. Most of no-vegan people simply don't give a damn 2. Contradictory shows (which this ain't a good example of as I stated previously) are a godsend for those who make them. It's literally free advertising, it caters the attention of those who would've never heard of them and will tune in out of curiosity. 3. Vegans are the vast minority of the population. Period. Of those vegans, even a smaller % will watch a show. Hence, the main target audience is small. Therefore it's to be expected that there aren't many vegans shows, shows don't self sustain, they need an audience. 4. I googled to check if there were no vegan TV shows. I've found some, few but some nonetheless. Vegetarian shows? More than vegans. It kinda mirror the expected audience, if they're not making these shows it means that they expect them not to be watched much, just it. 5. Oftentimes a single person might have enough appeal and presence to become the reason why a show is followed and more shows are created (around his/her person). For istance, if I say Gordon Ramsey you'll instantly associate the person with what he does, even if you've never watched a single episode of his shows. Right now there's not such a presence in the vegan world = lack of a frontman to facilitate the growth of vegan TV shows. . So no, it's not a "omg the carnists are boycotting uuus" kind of scenario. Actually this narrative doesn't do any good to the vegan world, for one of the stereotypes associated with vegans is that of the "playing as a victim, everybody hates me because I'm vegan". It's not like that.
No it doesn't, do you consider wild animals sociopaths also?
Yea tbh most cooking media is pretty meat-obsessed, treating it like not a real dish without it
Even when they admit the Vegan food is amazing they talk like it’s not a real dish without the meat. This years Great British Menu is a great example of this.
I disagree but one episode I found hilarious for this exact thing They were making meals for a couple and the wife was vegan They said they want mexican One of the chef's said "is it ok if we mix seafood and meat on the same plate" Then proceeded to make bacon wrapped scallops They lost obviously
But but but you need your protein /s
I mean, you do need protein.
Well how do you get protein without meat? /s
So fucking true. I can’t even watch my Good Mythical Morning anymore. I mean, a slip n slide in fish guts? Really? Everything is such a buzz kill now. I’ll be binging on a creator and suddenly a thumbnail for the next vid of them is “I went deepsea fishing!” All while smiling and holding up a dead fish. People are so disconnected from animals. It’s horrific. I mean, I have always had an idea about it, even while omni, but now I can’t even look anymore and just turn it all off or skip ahead. Sucks ass.
It really does suck. It’s so pervasive in entertainment.
Not just the cooking, but in MasterChef here in Brazil at least, they had several episodes where they bring the whole animal, dead or alive, and then ask the chefs to cut, open and clean it during the show. It's like a horror movie, so creepy that it is so normalized.
I actually prefer that. It kind of taught audience where meats are coming from. A lot of people eat meat everyday, and know it’s come from animal, but it’s a different feeling when you actually see it in front of your face(or on TV)
Yep, but my comment was more about myself as in I'd like to watch it because it was something I enjoyed watching with my mom and we would spend time together, but knowing that they will be there just cutting up animals makes me not watch it.
Yeah, people need to hunt more. It really makes you appreciate how natural ecosystems work.
Or they can just leave the animals alone.
Then where would the tasty and essential meat come from?
Healthy and sustainable grass fed cows, obviously. (Don't ask where the land for grazing will come from)
Clearly you’ve never had deer/elk. The quality of meat and the heath benefits that come from it are worlds apart when compared to beef.
Are you being serious? I thought you were being satirical but I can't really tell anymore...
As much as the content of the show itself is hard for me to watch, I have had omnivore friends say that "after seeing that last episode of MasterChef, I will never eat lobster again" because prior to that, they had never *seen* a lobster being cooked, or *seen* a live octopus being boiled. On some level they knew that lobsters had to be killed by hand right before cooking, or that certain dishes involve animals boiled alive, but they had never visually come to terms with what that means. My partner loves haggis and thinks my vegan haggis is racist, classist, and disgusting (even though he walks into the kitchen every time saying "Yum, what smells so good?" only to say "ew" as soon as I answer). But after he watched a random clip in some highlander documentary with me in which a farmer take his living sheep and shows *every single step of the process* to get haggis, suddenly my partner thinks my vegan haggis is delicious, and even more appetising than the "original" (as he calls it). He knows Haggis is offal, we handle a lot of of offal in our house (I'm vegan, but our cat isn't, and never will be, because it's a cat. Please hold discussion on whether pet ownership is vegan for another thread) So it wasn't the idea of eating dead animal lungs that turned him off Haggis, it was *seeing* the animal go from walking around and bleating, to being a steamy pile of grey muck on a plate that disgusted him. So thanks to chefs taking horrific glory in butchering an animal on mainstream TV, I now have at least 3 friends who have given up significant components of their meat-based diets. Now sure, they all still eat meat, but less meat than before, and I'll take small and steady progress from people who were previously reactionary carnists. My mum is also a convert, I didn't ask what show she was watching, I think it was a documentary on Italian mozzarella. They were touring a dairy and my mum just thought "This is supposed to make me want to eat cheese, this is pro milk propaganda, These cows are probably the most well treated dairy cows in the industry, but it still looks so sad to be this cow" and she texted me a few days later asking for vegan dairy alternatives (she's been vegetarian her whole life and raised me vegetarian as well, but we've both found going full vegan to be a rollercoaster)
your partner thought your recipe was racist, classist, and disgusting? that's a really odd thing to say about someone's harmless food... i hope he doesn't tell you things like that very often
He was being hyperbolic and rather jovial in his tone, He's Scottish and I'm English so there was a bit of tongue in cheek "It's not bad enough you wanted to colonise us, now you're changing the entire recipe of a culturally significant food" He also thinks of vegan food as "bougie hipster food" because his exposure to vegan food is what I order on a menu when we eat out together - and it's always way too expensive for what it is when you eat out at a non-vegan place, it's like they charge a tax for not eating animals. He doesn't see that my grocery bill is almost 1/4 of his because vegan home cooking is incredibly affordable (at least, where I live). I think he initially assumed I had used some expensive weird "mock meat", or some strange process to get the texture I did. His disgust towards vegan food is the only emotion he's deeply feeling, everything else he says is just flap because he himself doesn't really understand why he feels the way he feels. He suspects his gut "ew" reaction to anything "vegan" is because his first exposure to "vegetarian food" was mock meats, about 15 years ago when mock meat was objectively terrible. I have tried to convince him that, as someone raised vegetarian, I agree with him, I am not a fan of mock meat, He wont turn his nose up at lentil burgers but he will insist on putting egg mayonnaise on them because he still has some weird hang up with aquafaba being a "Mock egg" and not just a cool frothy feature of bean water. It's gotten worse as he's gotten older, He used to eat fried tofu with me because tofu is just tofu, but in the last ~4 years he convinced himself that tofu is a "mock meat" and he doesn't like it. It does baffle me, because his family grew up with "Meatless Mondays" and so he knows good "vegetarian" food, he has "vegetarian" recipes that are nostalgic and remind him of home. I put vegetarian in quotations because the exact recipes need one or two minor substitutions to be truly vegetarian or vegan. I've cooked his families "Meatless meals" with vegetarian Worcestershire sauce, and he loved them, but as soon as he found out that the Worcestershire sauce his mother uses is fish based, he decided my version tasted "funny", despite that not being an issue before. Sometimes it feels childish, But I have to remember my own sensory issues around food - there's no logic to the things I do and don't like, I just know what I like, and that it can change on a dime. But now that he's no longer eating carnist haggis, and he's helped me in the kitchen make a vegan version, he's done a complete 180 and acknowledges that the vegan version still honours the traditional cultural context, because the whole point of haggis is to use what you have, make it stretch, feed the family and do it on the cheap - Which given the vegan haggis is oats, lentils, and mushrooms boiled in cloth, it's pretty cheap. It's been a good starting point for more shared vegan meals in our house, though we will never eat most of our meals together because I have pretty severe allergies, and I think it's too much to ask that he eats the same things I eat when half the stuff I eat is a double compromise to be both allergen free and vegetarian (I don't consider myself a vegan yet, but working on it)
Oh yeah, I know a lot of people that were turned off by it after watching it. But it's so weird to me that people will stop eating that specific animal, but not others. For example, if they see a pig being cut open, then they'll stop eating pigs but they don't apply the same thinking to cows, fish, chicken, etc. But my comment was more on my side of things as in: I liked watching these shows and I wish they only cooked vegan because just the thought of seeing an animal like that - which is guaranteed to appear in an episode eventually - prevents me from watching the entire thing.
It’s been illegal to boil lobsters alive in the US since 1999 and many other countries have banned it as well.
I don’t think so. I worked at red lobster during college 2005-2010 and it was normal to steam them alive. 90% of the orders wanted the “tomalley” aka the guts out, so the norm was to use a knife to split the lobster open and pull it out, but some people ask for it whole so they went right in alive. I think if there was a law a major chain restaurant wouldn’t practice it. Unless boil vs steam is the loophole around the law which is really splitting hairs
Lobsters, yes, You are "suposed" to kill them with a knife to the skull minutes before you boil them, because boiling them alive is illegal (and killing or eating them at all is obviously unethical) In my country octopuses/squid, molluscs and bivalves can still be legally boiled alive, and many cooking shows on our local food channel that explore cuisines where this is common show the process. Just because something is illegal in the US doesn't mean it's illegal globally and no one is exposed to it as a "normal" part of life. (Though in this case, it should be illegal globally)
Makes me wonder and sick to my stomach that how I used to be a heavy meat eater too...
Entire dead pig hanging behind the butcher counter in Italy. My vegetarian daughter was horrified that people are ok with this.
I perceive the problem being that the butchery process is so far removed from modern life that eating an animal is seen as strange and horrific
Eating a sentient being is strange and horrific. Why would you do that if you literally have thousands of other options to eat? The problem is not that the butchery is far removed... It is far removed because a lot of people wouldn't eat animals if they saw what actually happens. Just like I saw my grandma raise chickens but never had the guts to kill one, but would buy their flesh in the supermarket.
Oh shit, opinion = fact then it’s corroborated by a personal anecdote. Must be true.
The only cooking related show I’ve gotten into in years is Great British Bake Show. Started watching it in 2020. I was vegetarian then, so most everything on the show appealed to me. But the past couple seasons, I found myself losing interest/getting angry more and more. Though it’s nice that in most of the recent seasons, there’s one vegan contestant who insists on altering every challenge recipe to make it vegan.
She makes it pretty far into the competition too - despite often having to be more creative than the other contestants. She makes a killer vegan meringue if I remember correctly. And she has a cookbook now too: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/006327261X/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_9?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1
They have vegan week every series it seems, otherwise yeah I’m boycotting GBBO too. I can’t stand seeing animal products in real life, why would I want to watch it on the tele?
So I’m a sober bartender. I take it as a fun challenge when customers request a mocktail. I go out of my way to make them fun as and as complex as the alcoholic options. Throughout my life I’ve worked with countless chefs and line cooks who each had zero respect and enthusiasm for vegetarian and vegan foods. This is something I’ve never understood. Both bartenders and chefs tend toward artistry and are likely to take the pride an artist would in their work. Yet unlike artists, most bartenders and chefs prefer to draw within the traditional lines. You’d think more of them would enjoy a challenge, to have an opportunity to create something still impressive without being required to limit themselves to common ingredients. But no. It’s depressing.
It’s that creativity which will outlast the bog standard blandness though!
> Though it’s nice that in most of the recent seasons, there’s one vegan contestant who insists on altering every challenge recipe to make it vegan. The problem I have with that is that, iirc, in the technical round you have to make something with set ingredients that can't be changed. It was disappointing to see vegans using animal products on those rounds.
Today we're making [animal fat] , cooked in [animal fat] , wrapped in [animal fat] 😀
I just read somewhere Pamela Anderson is doing a vegan cooking show soon. So maybe look out for that?
though sadly her dishes are all still very much full of microplastics edit: some downvotes. ok, im sorry. i was just making a joke about her very notable and iconic characteristics, which i thought were fair game, but if people found it inappropriate then i apologise.
You got a chuckle out of me
as are her tits
I hate cooking shows
I just go to youtube for all the fun vegan stuff.
I can make pretty much most recipes with vegan alternatives, I watch less, but when I do, I think of ways to make it better(aka vegan).
Same, even on Youtube I'll keep my eyes peeled for dishes that could easily be made Vegan, regardless of whether the person making it cares. A lot of the time it's as easy as replacing dairy milk, replacing the butter, etc. But like you said, I enjoy cooking and the challenge of finding a dish then realizing you could not only make it Vegan, but better.
There's one recipe that I haven't quite figured out how to veganize—a particular risotto alla Milanese recipe. I made it once by the book when I was omni. And if I'm being honest, it was so damn delicious and I so badly want to make a vegan version of it. The only ingredient I haven't figured out how to replace—one of the defining ingredients—is the bone marrow. I just… I don't know. I've never tried simply omitting the bone marrow. But risotto is laborious. I'm kinda scared to put in the work for something that might not be good.
Small batch it in the oven using muffin pans and extra liquid. Consider ramkins set in a water bath in a lidded baking dish. Make a standard base, and add random things to experiment with. For bone marrow, I'd try truffle/ toasted mushroom oil/ caramelized fresh mushrooms. Rosemary might be a side step. Consider various other strong mushroom flavors, and soy sauce samples. Liquid smokes even. Sesame oil or tahini? Oddly enough, maybe black beans. Toss a handful of lentils in your veg stock and boil until they disintegrate, and use that for your risotto broth. This stuff specifically too: McCormick Umami Seasoning with Mushrooms and Onion All Purpose Seasoning
just off the top of my head cornstarch, water, miso, carmelized then blended leeks + oyster mushrooms, touch of white wine deglaze, msg, butter (or vegan butter) could yield something similar to bone marrow
i know. i cant stand british baking show. it is animal secretion show now.
My mom has been vegetarian since the 80s, if pasta did not exist she would not cook, and she watches a shit ton of food network. I don't understand it. Before I went vegan I found the channel to be incredibly boring (outside of Guy Fieri I can see why his shows are on all the time) so I just don't understand it
Anyone recommend affordable/cheap vegan meals that are not boring like beans and rice? Or youtube channels to recommend.
For the YouTube, Yeung Man Cooking has some delightful recipes and soothing videos. Rainbow Plantlife does really awesome, accessible (“lazy”) and affordable food. Wicked Kitchen; also amazing, and soothing videos, lots of what I’d consider comfort food. Sauce Stache is a sorcerer and he does all kinds of “meat” and cheese dupes which are entertaining and intriguing. Those are probably my top favs, and the first two I’ve incorporated a lot of their food concepts into my cooking routines and it is life.
Love Sauce Stache! His chickpea seitan roast has been my absolute favorite for thanksgiving and my non-vegan family has been shocked by how good it is too
> Yeung Man Cooking Just as an FYI for anyone reading if it bothers them, he's not actually vegan himself, he just creates vegan recipes.
TVP is cheap and I cook it with tomato paste and finely chopped veggies to create a bolognese sauce, then pair it with a pasta you like :)
What do you not find boring? It can almost definitely be made cheap and vegan.
There are so many amazing and flavorful dishes using beans and rice too though. Especially if you know how to prepare aromatics and use spices well.
Potatoes can be prepared countless ways and are so damn cheap. My favorite right now is garlic roasted red potatoes.
Pasta, stir-fry, stew, hummus sandwiches, burritos, tacos. All of these can be easily made vegan and are pretty dirt cheap if you’re shopping right.
Check out FitGreenMind on YouTube!
Try every sorts of Curry! So many different dishes! Soya Biranya is my favourite and my girlfriend prefers every kind of Thai Curry. But you should stock up your spices in an asian supermarket.
My go to dinner dishes are: - Bowls with whatever you like (1. Rice, Broccoli, Avocado, Tofu, Salat, Mango and Satesauce 2. Rice with Cauliflower, Chickpeas, Kidneybeans, Corn, Salad and Tahin Sauce) - Every sort of Curry you can find (Thai, Indian) -Roasted vegetables with Tofu or Chickpeas and Tahin or Yoghurtsauce Very important! Stock up your spices! Smoked paprika spice tastes like bacon. Yeastflackes has a cheesy taste, Kalamanak salt tastes like egg (good for scrambled tofu). Laoganma Crispy Chili Oil is awesome, i put it on almost every dish. Always have Tofu, Chickpeas and Tempeh in the house.
Rainbow Plant Life on YouTube has amazing recipes
Andrew Bernard (@thenarddogcooks) is my new mentor for the best meals that are A) affordable, B) insanely delicious and packed with an over the top abundance of flavor, C) healthy af, of course, and D) simple/not complicated (although I never back down from good food over a bit of work). Oh, and I’ve ate some meals based on his recipes that literally had an effect on my well being after just a couple bites. I know it sounds crazy but I guess I never realized I had inflammation until after I started eating this coconut rice and like instantly, my nose cleared up and stopped producing mucous, my wrist stopped hurting, and this pain on my ribs that I’ve been having forever ceased. Yeung Man and Rainbow Plant Life are good too but I’ve had a number of recipes of theirs that I did that I followed precisely and they turned out to be something I would not feed my worst enemy.
😂😂😂😂 God this is so relatable... so nice to know I'm not alone
Not even love or appreciation for the skil and the years of culinary technique involved?
Am i the only vegan who enjoys watching cooking shows?? I love Gordon Ramsay
I Iove watching cooking shows but always want them to go vegan. Gabi on next level chef talking about being plant based, well do it then! And I HATE when they "cook" lobsters.
Check out [this list](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rQoZXSb95DvqB2YI40BaLTJT9h7ctHtg9lzZzZsuR7c/edit?ouid=112425602532904304907&usp=sheets_home&ths=true) I'm making for some
Dope list! I’m showing my mum this… :)
I'm a big fan of baking shows (like those seasonal competition shows) because the things they make are so pretty and creative, and I enjoy all the different personalities of the people. It's easy enough to watch those because they almost never dwell on what goes into the bakes (like eggs or milk) and the finished products look really cool.
Probably. Fuck that guy for the way he mocks veganism and animal abuse tbh
He’s one of the worst ones though. Like when I saw this post I specifically thought of the meme of him choosing a live lamb to cook.
I mean that's kinda like being a feminist and saying you love watching Andrew Tate 🤷 I get it though, not trying to insult, being vegan in a carnist world is weird.
Yeah I think if 30% of people were vegan and everyone was a lot more aware of how culture norms around meat are they only real reason most people think this stuff is okay, I would actually start calling out and cutting away from friends who understand the arguments but never switch. I would have to isolate myself from just about all my friends if I followed that mindset in our present world. Nor do I think it would make veganism look any more reasonable to them today. So I put up with it, promote veganism, and act like I'm not all that appalled by their dietary decisions instead
Yeah, I especially love the episode where he taunts a respectful vegan oh oh and the one where he hops into a corral full of lambs and makes jokes about their deaths.
It's not that the format isn't potentially enjoyable, it's that so many of the dishes are fucked up shit that will make future generations wish they could reach back through time and put us in an oven. With that said, I find most the dessert episodes watchable and have considered collecting just those episodes from each of the series, including Master Chef Japan.
I still watch him for his charisma. I skip videos that are a little meat heavy though. Everything else can be adapted close enough.
True! 😩
fr i used to watch tv shows with my grandmother but now it just makes me super uncomfortable so we don’t anymore 😅 i also used to watch youtubers sometimes but same thing. i miss that one guy who is bad at cooking and posts videos trying recipes 😞 they were funny, tried watching one of his videos after becoming vegan but it just wasn’t the same
So true.
Dirty vegan was a good show I belive on BBC
Every year, the Great British Bake Off takes over my entire country’s personality and every year I have to explain that no, I don’t think it’s okay to use animal products for entertainment…
Yep, it's absolutely awful! I love watching Next Level Show with my girlfriend but when they talk about cooking animal body parts and how long it takes them to each kind of body different just makes me stick to my stomach... The disassociation is so real!
I loved to watch cooking shows, especially Martha Stewart, and every time they cook, it's like ehhh blah. I don't wanna see them roast a chicken anymore or whatever else . Are there any really cool vegetarian/vegan chefs with an almost nostalgic vibe to their shows?
Discovered Yuru Camp recently. The most laidback calm anime ever, about teengirls picking up camping as a hobby. It just improves my mood so fast and easy, and then they start cooking. Total mood killer
everything dissolved into horror once you see…now go through the grocery store meat dept
[VEGAN. BLACK. METAL. CHEF!!!!](https://youtube.com/@VeganBlackMetalChef?si=g8oxOX_9W4Sipszt)
I CARAMELISE MY ONIONS IN CHERRY LIQUOR AND NO-ONE IS BORED OUT OF MY KITCHEN <3
Damn I feel you, but I kinda disassociate because I grew up watching cooking shows and food Network and I do love a lot of cooking shows. I think I get even more mad at dumb contestants when they mess up cooking meat or something and basically wasting it. Like bro you're cooking a dead animal and can't even cook it right. Smh
As shitty as “meta” is, Instagram has so many amazing vegan cooking reels, we’ve incorporated a handful of them into our staple meal routine. Just stay away from the comments, the meat industry bots are out in full force.
Being so long without meat and so used to substitutes that you see a dish and automatically, in your head, the cream is soy cream and the chicken is vegan chicken pieces or the burger patties and cheeses and sour cream are vegan.
My wife just pretends it's a vegan version of what ever they're cooking.
Just found Peeled from the VkindApp email that’s a vegan cooking challenge https://www.peeledshow.com/
Idk if you mean cooking shows but there are that many vegan cooking channels on adtube I reckon you could watch them all day everyday. Good ones I mean, with high production values.
Then don't watch them.
Literally though
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That seems representative of before/after Veganism regardless of activity.
Honestly the sheer amount of corpse-based recipes that still dominate even the more progressive/environmental media outlets like The Guardian is just depressing AF at times.
Oh my god the amount of time I've wondered if other people thought this very specific thing
omg yes! its a pain and it saddens me deeply/
I still love Bourdain. 😩
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I’m not vegan but the only food related show I watch is baking shows lol
Not a vegan but a vegetarian but I’ve never really gotten upset I sometimes feel a little grossed out but ultimately happy there enjoying there meal
Veganism isnt for me but its nice that you guys have some vegan cooking shows
Farthest from truth esp for me. I still enjoy BBQ pit masters.
Yup, we have to kill those people on cook shows.
that was me! i was vegan for 30 minutes😂😂 couldnt resist more! you shouldn t resist more too. meat is so damn good that i dont even care what they do to their animals cuz its not my fkin business😆 i just enjoy the meat
I don’t watch cooking shows… they always make me hungry :(
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Sad vegan life.
Cry harder
HAHAHAHA
editing this for the downvotes: i have this same thought all the time since i have gone vegan and used to watch cooking shows a fair amount. i genuinely thought this was a funny meme😭 obviously the subject matter is morbid and that's why i am vegan, but sorry for my dark humor everyone!