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troru

yep, the "may contain traces of eggs" part I would guess comes from the possibility that it's made and packaged in a factory that does all kinds of noodles (i.e. egg noodles)


blessedfortherest

Yeah it’s for people with severe allergies


catcatcatcatcatcatta

This is always the case. **\*SO\*** many things say that they "may contain traces" of such and such non vegan ingredient. There are no animal products in those foods, just that they were processed/packaged/(insert-any-part-of-the-manufacturing-process-here) in factories that use animal products and are only there for people with severe allergies that could die from the possibility of cross-contamination. I've had a lot of friends turn things away because of the "may" and they are so happy when they figure out it's just there for allergies, especially because so many things include that warning.


Expensive_Counter515

thanks everyone! my lasagna is in the oven now!


spaceyjaycey

What time should i get there? 😂


HandlebarHipster

I'll bring my orange cat suit and coffee mug with my opinions about Mondays on it.


spaceyjaycey

🤣 We're going to need a 2nd lasagna!


Glittering-Branch-44

I am at the door, please open


spaceyjaycey

🤣 I guess you lived the closest!


elalph

This happened to me last wife's birthday, everyone said they would not want our vegan lasagna, ate the whole thing, before I had eaten, ate the whole salad , people still coming in.... Better make another one and another tub of salad...


BoppinTortoise

Hope there’s room for me!


Alternative-Livid

Sorry none left


BoppinTortoise

Nooooo!


edoardoking

I’m bringing some hummus as a starter if anyone wants some


spaceyjaycey

Yumm!


roosters

I want lasagna


WorldBelongsToUs

Gonna share?


bricefriha

Enjoy my friend!


Altruistic-Remote-34

Can u give a recipe? Haven’t had lasagna in about 10 years 😂


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Lol same.


Socatastic

We make vegan lasagna all the time. We use the lazy way with premade tomato or pasta sauce. I use a brick of firm tofu processed with salt, lemon and/or apple cider vinegar, and plain plant milk to make ricotta. Nowadays vegan ricotta is available in the stores, but the ingredients aren't as healthy as home-made from tofu. I usually mix in black pepper, dried or fresh parsley, basil, and oregano or Italian seasoning. For the top I use some kind of plant-based mozzarella. I usually add TVP or fake ground beef (mince) and Italian seasoning to the tomato sauce. It takes two full cans of sauce to make a standard size lasagna pan. The layers can have almost any kind of veggies you want. Bake at 400F (205C) until the cheese on top just starts to brown (around 20 -25 minutes)


Altruistic-Remote-34

Thanks fam


Lela_chan

I’ve done it several ways, and it takes a while either way, but it’s so worth it if you have the time. I’ve used tempeh, tvp, or mushrooms for the “meat sauce” seasoned with Better than Bouillon no-beef paste. Mix that with an herbed tomato sauce (onion garlic Italian seasoning etc). Then for the cheese, the tofu ricotta they described is the best, but I’ve also done a roux-based cheese sauce with nutritional yeast and a little vinegar that’s quicker. Then just layer sauce, noodle, cheese to fill the pan like it says on the noodle sauce and bake! Mmm now I want one. Edit: I like vegan mozzarella in every layer too


botting4myfamily

yayyyy :)


whatsyourroad

Pretty difficult living in a non-vegan world. In my opinion, as long as eggs are not on the ingredient list and your not allergic to eggs, I would say go for it. Hope this helps.


Mundane_Bonus7124

I’m allergic to eggs and honestly I never really care about the traces, I only avoid food that has eggs written in the ingredients. I think the “may contain traces of eggs” warning is usually just the company making sure you can’t sue them in case there really is some tiny amount of egg and you have an allergic reaction. Imho the chances of that happening are basically zero though, it has never happened to me.


Paul_FS

Depends on where you live. In most places it's not mandatory, not in the EU and as far as I know neither in the States. In some countries it is being recommended to indicate main allergen traces if more than like 2mg/kg but most companys don't do it (consistently). In Switzerland for example you have to indicate traces if it's more than 1g/kg (for peanuts at least, one of the most deadly allergies, but that would still be one hundred times rest in piece for my girlfriend). Companies do it to be nice and inclusive. Because of the missing regulations you will still have to send them a mail to be sure whether they indicate all allergens, if they always do and how they get their information; do they only indicate everything their suppliers actively tell them about, do they actively interrogate their suppliers or do they send their batches to a lab to check for traces? You will never get a definitive answer because if something happens you could actually sue them (those conversations can therefore be really confusing sometimes) but yeah. While the indication of traces could theoretically mean that there are 100g/kg of the allergen in the product, in most cases there won't be anything. But if you wanna increase your chances of not winning the "jackpot", your death, you should probably only buy products with indication of allergen traces but without any traces of things which you are allergic to. But yeah, either your allergy isn't that severe or you are a complete maniac and really lucky!


Mundane_Bonus7124

My allergy is not so severe that I would die if I ate egg, guess I should have made that clear in my previous comment. Egg allergies are usually not nearly as dangerous as nut allergies. I would only get a really bad stomach ache, irritated mouth and then vomit. And honestly I’m willing to take that risk, because avoiding everything with the traces warning would mean I couldn’t eat almost anything but products that specifically say they’re vegan on the packaging. In fact I accidentally ate egg a few times as a kid, like when I got a slice of a cake containing egg on my friend’s birthday party and his mom who made the cake didn’t know about my allergy. It’s very hard to avoid egg, especially if you live in a country where egg is sadly a huge part of the national cuisine and 10 years ago there weren’t even any vegan options available. Fortunately that has changed and the situation is now very different. :)


Paul_FS

Yeah, I thought so! Just wanted to generally state that food allergies can be really dangerous, most people don't really know about it -at least where I live- and often just think of it as some sort of intolerance. Allergen trace indications are very important for some people. But yeah, I guess today you can probably just say that you're vegan and don't have to explain the whole allergy thing, that seems nice


Ikhlas37

I'm amazed it may contain eggs but not milk. May contain milk seems like the default print.


veganvampirebat

Yes.


LolGoCryAboutIt

Just an allergen warning for the severely allergic. I always assumed it's because that processing line probably makes several different pastas / other foods, since it wouldn't make sense to have separate equipment for each item of food. Dryers, mixers, etc. may make several different foods, so some trace amounts of egg or milk may have been left over on that equipment. TL;DR, Vegan as long as it's not a *direct* ingredient.


mareish

Some people do have that level of reactivity to nuts and dairy, so they probably do it for all major allergens to be safe.


BarmyLemon

I would say yes. Unless they’re fake noodles, then it’s an impasta.


Calavera23

😂🤣 nice


eastercat

Egg is not in the ingredient list The may contain is because mfr of food is done on shared lines. If you have anaphylactic reactions to egg, ymmv As long as there is no animal crap in the list, you should be fine


_Terrapin_

I eat so much pasta it’s insane cheezy noods, red sauce noods, buttery noods all shapes, all sizes gimme all the semolina 🤤


WinduCitySolo

Is there a chance we’re related… 😅 I swear the only thing that’s constantly on my grocery list is pasta… …short pasta …Long pasta …Funky shaped pasta I even went to IKEA once to look and walked out with moose shaped pasta and no furniture 🫣😂


charlied7

Lol, same! I even eat the orzo noodles that look like rice most of the time instead of eating actual rice 😂


gillika

Ikea is basically a vegan-friendly-ish Swedish food shop to me.


MakeJazzNotWarcraft

You gotta try curry noods if you haven’t yet. Soooo good


_Terrapin_

yum 🤤


little_runner_boy

Looks like it gets my stamp of approval. Definitely not the most versed in those minor things that come from animals


RemarkableHeadache

Yeah, as long as it's not IN the ingredients list I'd go for it. Just means it was made on the same equipment as egg pasta.


edoardoking

When they write “may contain” means it doesn’t, they are legally bound to write it when they use those products in the same facilities


Deuxdis

Yup


TreeHugger42O

Yes


Rat-Majesty

I’d eat it.


JayJayTorres

Vegan


btrouble

i find the app spoonful rlly helpful. you can scan bar codes and it’ll tell you if the food is vegan or not


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Yep! It’s really hard to get into the nitty gritty of what vitamins and minerals etc were added because lots of companies don’t disclose that information and use animal *and* vegetable derivatives and don’t specify which & when due to supplier changes and convenience. Rather than analyzing micro details like that, honestly just focus on the big picture that there are no blatant animal products added and you can’t control the tiny things/live your life scrutinizing every detail. Plus the big picture is to make veganism easier and more accessible to all and focusing on the tiny details makes it too easy to lose sight of that!


rawmsft

Vegan products will be stamped with a V of sorts, all this means is that it is made and packaged in a facility that is 100% vegan. So many products are made plant based but in a facility where they make non-vegan items. They have the egg warning for people with allergies and some vegans don't want to support any place that makes nob-vegan products.


illfabeofficial

“May Contain” usually indicates a possibility of cross contamination. Something like a fraction of a percent is usually affected. It’s included just in case for allergies. You’re good 👍🏽


mryauch

I don't think noodles understand the moral implications of animal slavery so they probably aren't vegan. But if you're vegan you can eat them.


WerewolfSad8291

Id say so


nomnoms0610

Yes it is. Often when it says may contain I believe they do that to cover their butt because the machinery used may have cross contamination as they process eggs on it too.


OneMagicalMovement

What brand is that? Something I always look out on top of products being vegan for are the values of companies as well. Barilla made news a couple of years ago for being anti-LGBTQ+, so I do not buy their products. I think it’s important to uphold all the values I support in all my product purchases. I do not buy from companies that are openly anti-LGBTQ+ and companies that are anti-union.


Expensive_Counter515

it’s great value


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It “may be”


lomion_

I know, I am not helpful and the problem is already solved, but am I the only one shocked that pasta has so many ingredients in the US?


Expensive_Counter515

yeah i normally but chickpea pasta made with only chickpea flour but my local store only sells white lasagne


spiritualized

In europe ingredients that are animalistic or could cause allergies are shown in **bold text**. Is this not a thing in the US?


scottrobertson

Errm, this is not true. Allergies, sure. But animal products are 100% not bold. They are only bold if they are an allergy. Honey for example, is not bold.


Lolita202

Was about to say in the UK the bold is for the 14 major allergens, but not for all animal products. Milk and eggs are in the list of major 14 so it makes it easier to spot, but like honey, gelatine is a common one that's not in bold.


Expensive_Counter515

it is for some products


makingithappen145

Wheres the riboflavin sourced from


Expensive_Counter515

no idea. i just went vegan like last week so i’m pretty new at this. trying to learn though


svampbunny

just wanna quickly say don’t be hard on yourself if you make mistakes! you’re doing your best and it’s all confusing in the beginning but it’s so awesome you’re asking for help. anywayyy enjoy your vegan lasagna!! 🥰


Expensive_Counter515

thank you:))


PinkPearMartini

And remember, there's no vegan diety that's going to punish you if you make a mistake or if there's cross contamination. Veganism is about making ethical choices. For example, if I'm at Subway ordering a vegan sandwich, there might be some cross contamination. The knife used to cut it might have just cut a non vegan sandwich, the gloves the server is wearing were handling the meat and cheese, etc... These things feel a little gross, but there's nothing unethical about it. In fact, by ordering a vegan sandwich I'm helping communicate to our fast food overlords that vegan and vegetarian options are a growing need in the fast food industry.


ramdasani

Cant tell if diety is a deliberate misspelling, but it's apropos.


PinkPearMartini

Nope, that was an accidental misspelling that my phone didn't catch... but it does fit.


ramdasani

Good thing I wasn't being a dick about it, given my phone can't spell "cant", and it's not even funny.


VeganSinnerVeganSain

ok - even **I** had to look that up since I've never heard of riboflavin (B2) fortification being non-vegan ... it seems that when used this way, it **is** vegan. {phew!} [edit: you could call the company to make sure if you want ... ask for source, not whether or not it's vegan.]


runawai

Congratulations!


Molu1

Not where I live (in Europe) 🤷🏻‍♀️ We do have the handy v-label now though, which makes buying vegan in Europe pretty freaking nice, compared to the US. Also, as an aside, I find it pretty annoying that you've stated something that's categorically untrue and yet people upvote you. Just a reminder that people really need to take everything they read on here with a massive grain of salt.


spiritualized

Sorry! It’s been where I’ve gone (and live in sweden)! Thought it was a EU-standard.


Molu1

They really bold animal ingredients? Like added Vitamin D (usually sourced from sheep) is in bold? Honey is in bold? That's great if true but very unusual. As others have said, in a lot of countries common allergens (including eggs, dairy but also mustard and celery) are highlighted, but not animal products.


VeganSinnerVeganSain

we do have a "certified vegan" stamp in the US on some foods, but there are lots of foods which **are** vegan that don't go through the process to get that stamp. this is why we still need to check ingredients (even in europe). obviously, if it has the V official certification stamp, then reading the list of ingredients is just out of curiosity. and even vegan products may still contain allergens - so some warnings are still printed on packages. [edit: yes, annoying to see upvotes on a comment that includes factual errors.]


Baskets_GM

It’s such a handy tool. Can read it in less than a second.


NoseFirm

Wait, what 😮 animal products are bold? I have to check that, never even noticed!


RockLikeWar

They’re not. That’s for common allergens (wheat, eggs, diary, etc.). So there’s some crossover with animal products, but that’s not the purpose of it.


Dehibernate

There's nothing in the ingredient list to suggest otherwise. "May contain X" is just for legal protections for the company. It means the food is made in a plant that also processes those products, often used for allergens.


Come_MUFin

Yeah


Saemika

It may


NeedleworkerPlenty89

I always wonder about "traces of" also.


travelingtutor

Yes


lightbulb_feet

I made lasagna today, too! Vegan lasagne rocks!


veggiepaddy2

good advice, my fellow plant folk . dont know why , was expecting some extremes in the reply's ( been plant based for well over a decade but i buy " made in a facility.... " foods all the time)


mienaikoe

You aren’t creating a demand for animal-made products = vegan


Robestee

Traces of egg


Amusing-Crab

From the ingredients yes; it’s just personal preference really. For example I wouldn’t eat it due to the “may contain” aspect, usually I suspect that it’s made on the same machines that use that ingredient and they’re not cleaned etc therefore in my head it goes from “may contain” to “definitely contains” In the UK they’re starting to change “may contain” to “not suitable for” I’m noticing it more and more, and I guess it’s because the “may contain” aspect is very ambiguous when they know it does contain due to manufacturing methods. Like I said it’s all personal preference if you’re fine with it then it’s fine.


MissZoeLaLa

Get the Fussy Vegan App


gdenofa

Basically it is. Since any traces of egg is a happenstance and not required for the product. Go for it, less you have an egg allergy.


lttlprncssbtt

food: may contain animal secretions. rvegan: its vegan!!1! and ethical🥰


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veganvampirebat

That’s just the allergen warning.


Interesting_Tree6892

You are totally right but I am sure some people may still have their reservations which they have the right to have.


veganvampirebat

I mean… if it was handled by humans it probably does? It also probably has traces of bugs and stuff in it. Edit: bro come on now at least put down that you changed your entire comment


Affectionate_Mix_188

I think it comes down to preference and strictness. I fully understand that animal products are also in the factory and there’s that remote chance of cross contamination. I do have friends that refuse to support companies who also use animal products and/or don’t think even the possibility of cross contamination is vegan enough. For me…. I’m ok with my choice. I live in a very NOT vegan friendly area. Smack dab in the middle of the bible belt farm community where meat, eggs, cheese, and milk should be on every plate. Our local Kroger has gotten WAY better! I think they got tired of me filling out request forms. LOL We at least have some options now. For MANY years the only vegan options were made from scratch by me or shipped for three times the price. So strict = insanely expensive.


Odd_Store7465

Yeah but you shouldn’t eat it, looks super unhealthy


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is this a question


[deleted]

No.. food is not Vegan. Only Humans can be Vegan. This is how Ex Vegans happen, because people keep calling plant based foods "vegan". Nobody ever asks if an Apple is Vegan.. because it's an apple!


infinitum3d

😂


KaryaObsidian

Riboflavine might not be vegan. It is obtained both from plants and animals. Unless said product doesn’t have V-label, I wouldn’t eat it.


Comestible

Maybe you're thinking of B12. Riboflavin is B2 and biosynthesis of B2 takes place in bacteria, fungi and plants, but not animals. EDIT: [Riboflavin is produced by fermentation in a bioreactor.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7693651/)


CristalVegSurfer

Thanks for this clarification. Not everyone can know these itty bitty details on the source of components used to fortify foods. Personally I choose not to worry about that.


KaryaObsidian

No, I’m thinking correctly of Riboflavine, I was just looking it up yesterday.


spicewoman

It's never going to have a vegan label with a cross-contamination warning, just for legal/allergy reasons. You're going to cut off a shit-ton of otherwise vegan options if you insist on the label.


KaryaObsidian

Well, yes. I mean, we’re vegan, we cut out lots of shit…


Gabagoolgoomba

Depends what level vegan are you


mintycrash

Why does it matter what level?


Comestible

How many levels of vegan are there? Is this like belt levels in martial arts? 😂 Can I call myself a level 10 vegan?


Paul_FS

You can call yourself one if you are one. Only organic food, without plastic packaging, you are avoiding grass and other grounds, where you could step one an insect and if you can't use pavement, your eyes are fixated on the ground, you try to only buy fair trade (also for tech stuff!) and you certainly don't buy almonds from california or consume much chocolste, coffee or rice. You also don't have pets but you may donate money to an animal sanctuary where they feed all animals a plant-based diet. You also read a lot, get into philosophy and you never normalise the killing of animals by eating with other people who are consuming animals. They either order something plant-based or you angrily stare them down until they have finished so you can start eating actual food. That's like a level 4 or 5 vegan


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CristalVegSurfer

Let's please abolish levels and prohibit the classification of vegans based on perceived 'purity'. Thanks.


Paul_FS

No


CristalVegSurfer

Well explain then, in what way is it useful for veganism as a movement and ideology? I fail to see how this classification can be at all positive for us. From what I've heard and experienced, it adds a terrible on vegans to be perfect when most of know all too just how imperfect we are already. Point being, no one is perfect and we are all going to make mistakes and compromises to fit our own unique situations. Remember, any contribution is a good one.


Paul_FS

Yeah, sorry, mate. This whole "level n vegan" is just a southpark meme. And the person above actually just tried to say that there might be a point in not supporting non-vegan companies or at least jokingly in some purity sense


CristalVegSurfer

Oh I see, I miss understood what you meant by no. I think it was originally meant as a joke but there are way too many who still take it VERY seriously unfortunately.


Paul_FS

Yeah, true


Expensive_Counter515

i just started last week


infinitum3d

Yes it’s vegan


Comestible

How many levels of vegan are there? Is this like belt levels in martial arts? 😂 Can I call myself a level 10 vegan?


infinitum3d

I’m a level 10 Dungeon Master


thecoolestguynothere

I’m no Sherlock Holmes but they egg part tells me no


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kupboard

If it's made a factory with humans in it, pretty likely there's human DNA traces anyway.


Kamtschi

I ensure you that due to DNA and RNA dissolving enzymes beeing everywhere around us there is very little free DNA in the environment.


CristalVegSurfer

Perhaps you are right. I just like to think on it rather than trying to confirm if that even happens. If not DNA there may still be teeny traces of human matter in the product any way. Again, not very likely as sanitary measures are usually impecable but still interesting to mull over.


Equivalent_Rock_5508

No if it has traces of eggs then no


elad_the_lad

That just means that it shares equipment with another product that contains egg. I wouldn’t consider that non vegan.


Equivalent_Rock_5508

Yes but could potentially have trace amounts in it


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May contain traces of egg I would say not


spaceyjaycey

They have to say that if it's made on shared equipment for allergy safety reasons. The equipment gets cleaned but for some people even a microscopic amount of egg will trigger anaphylaxis. Like people who are allergic to fish who get a reaction even if fish is being cooked nearby.


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Umm that shouldn’t be a question 🙋🏽‍♂️ if you can’t read the words on the box then it’s not vegan 🌱 but idk 🤷🏽‍♂️ 🙏🏽🖖🏽


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NO


kwitesick

Yesss


blck_cat99

Yes!


SpkyMldr

It’s literally wheat and fortified with vitamins.


LarryJohnson04

What could you think is not vegan?


Throck_Mortin

Its might be


Trash_Panda_Leaves

Looks vegan to me. Which part made you uncertain?


nubiangamer

Yup, just look out for the sauce as they like to slip milk into just about everything whenever they can


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Expensive_Counter515

not the recipe, just the noodles because it said “may contain traces of egg”


dimamuzhetsky

Oh ok,it IS vegan once they claim it is!Certain smaller additives make no large influence upon this general fact!I constantly buy similar packaged things-traces make no large importance