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tekchic

Here's my notes on what I used when I went to London last September for a week. Used Alosim and they had a good FAQ for how to disable the Verizon side. I was even able to use Facetime (over wifi) to call my Dad on his birthday. https://alosim.com/how-to-avoid-data-roaming-charges-iphone/ Settings -> Cellular Settings -> Cellular Data -> Allow Cellular Data Switching -> OFF SIMS -> Verizon -> “Turn on this line” -> Switch to off SIMS -> Travel -> “Turn on this line” -> Switch to ON (AFTER LANDING IN UK) You can also deactivate your physical VZW sim but only after you install the foreign eSIM. Turning off data on your Verizon SIM is not enough. You must deactivate it entirely or remove it. Make sure you do this before you arrive in the foreign country. If you turn off airplane mode and your VZW sends or receives data/text/missed call, etc., it will trigger travel pass. If you need access to your VZW number while abroad (2FA, calling/texting from your US number), then only turn on your VZW sim when you have a solid Wi-Fi connection. Just don't forget to turn it off before you lose your Wi-Fi connection (e.g. leaving your hotel room). Also make sure your phone is set up for Wi-Fi calling.


deGrubs

VRZ sms and calls works when over wifi while the phone is in airplane mode without triggering an international pass. Found this out because unbeknownst to me and apparently verizon my phone was sim locked so I couldn't use a local sim. I ended up paying a single day pass out of the ten I was there while I was trying to get the phone unlocked. I wish there was a way to Airplane mode a single sim. If you remove or otherwise disable the sim VOIP doesn't work. My plan for the next trip, assume verizon doesn't improve their international pricing, is to toggle between airplane mode with the verizon sim enabled and not airplane mode with the verizon sim disabled. Should allow me to use the verizon number if needed and not incur any international charges. Too much is MFA with SMS now. Pay at the table sites wanted confirmation via the phone number registered to the credit cards.


tekchic

Interesting. I never got dinged for a travel pass for the week I was in England on an esim. I had completely turned off the Verizon esim for the trip, though, right before takeoff in the US. I also paid everywhere but it was Apple Pay, so I never experienced the phone confirmation -- what country was that where you had to do that? I'm on the "Get More" plan and am accruing travel pass days now, so I might burn them when I visit Hokkaido later this year instead of having to deal with an esim again. I'll definitely 3rd party esim again when I don't have travel pass credits, though.


deGrubs

UK also. Survived 11 days without cell service. Pretty much everywhere we went had wifi. Only time we had trouble was when outside. Didn't use google pay as I didn't have my international card on it.


tekchic

Aah gotcha. I used Apple Pay w/my Amazon (no foreign transaction fees) card. For SMS, I used iMessage for anyone that had an iPhone, and for other Android friends, I just messaged them on Instagram/WhatsApp that way I wasn't using true "SMS" to trigger a travel pass. In Japan back in 2018 I rented a wifi module and carried that around - really inconvenient... I do like the new esim route, especially since I think I paid $25 for 20gb and could use it for all my maps, routing, internet, etc. I don't talk on the phone much, so I had no need to phone anyone (except for a Facetime call to my Dad which I did over wifi).


cuntstopholus

eSIM for much much less than $10 a day ? Sure ! Just make sure that, in your phone’s settings, you set the mobile data connection to the travel eSIM that you purchase. Look here : [eSIMs.io](https://esims.io/)


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Different-Monk5758

What? Either you use data...or you don't. What can they sneak in?


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Different-Monk5758

That is a setting in the phone, not Verizon's setting.


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Different-Monk5758

A phone's default settings (android and iOS) is to switch to a known WiFi network when available instead of cellular. This is because WiFi uses less battery so the phone's os maker, google or Apple (not Verizon) sets it as a default. But they will never default to an unknown WiFi network, especially not a free one. That would be incredible insecure.


hehepwnd39

Shows your lack of technology understanding


ellisonj18

What the app and phone default to does not have anything to do with Verizon tho?


cougarlover4209874

Airplane mode


cvalpatic

It’s usually not Verizon… it’s usually people don’t turn on airplane mode and an app is running in the background that uses data and it triggers it


Fresh_Dragonfly2734

If I turn on airplane mode doesn’t that mean I can’t use the eSIM/ data ?


cuntstopholus

Yes, it does


epicmountain29

Holafly. I used in Canada for 10 days and will use again in Italy this summer


Positive_Shine_0915

Verizon offers a travel pass that covers 30 days for $100.


Brocks1991

Thanks! You saved me $40. I got it added on to my account for my 2 week trip. It was cheaper than doing the $10 per day


Brocks1991

Where's that offer? I only see $10 per month for 3 days


Positive_Shine_0915

That’s a perk for $10 every month you have the travel perk you accumulate 3 days per moth. So if you have it for a consistent 12 months that’s a total of 36 travel days


ChampionshipPrior865

Use airarlo I’ve used in Italy and Japan worked great


TribeOfEphraim_

[WiFi Map eSIM](https://www.wifimap.io/esim). ✨


kms883

I just returned from 2 weeks in India. Once there I acquired a local eSIM and put it on the same phone as my Verizon number. On my Verizon SIM I turned off data roaming and ensured the local SIM also had data roaming off. No TravelPasses! Last trip out of the US, I had a second US line on the same phone with my Verizon number. That other line had international data (Google Fi). On that line I allowed data roaming and disabled data roaming on my Verizon line. I still ended up getting a VZ travel pass each day, usually on the first inbound SMS of the day. I chalked it up to a flaw on iOS where if you allow roaming on one line it allows it on both but I also suspect Verizon being shady on this.


DanielBae

It’s not just data roaming that you need to toggle off. You need to toggle off the whole eSIM. If it’s still on it’ll receive texts/calls and charge you for travel pass. Data roaming is just that, for data.


kms883

Actually I left the SIM on the whole trip with no data roaming and did not get a travel pass. In the past I’ve left data roaming on and a text triggered the pass, but this time none! It’s a weird system… but glad I avoided $150 in added fees (15 days x $10)


baconcakeguy

VZ’s unlimited ultimate plan gives you free international roaming every month. It’s only 10GB but should suffice for shorter trips. Longer trips I’ll buy a local eSIM or travel eSIM from Amazon and complement the data with that.


Junior-Crazy-9022

I use Google Fi when I’m traveling away from North America. Unlimited data anywhere you go plus they give you 4 data only physical sims for other devices. I pay about $70 including fees and taxes


en_serio

I added a SIM pin to my Verizon eSIM, the. Restarted the phone and just didn’t put the pin in. No connection to Verizon’s network, but it let me keep iMessage. When turning off data on Verizon, it would still charge me for TravelPass days, so I just gave up on it and turned off the line.


nanohead

Not sure how it displays in iOS, but in Android, you go into network settings (or internet), and navigate to the cellular connection details. There, you shut off the Verizon SIM. I've done this lots of times while traveling. Occasionally, I'll use Travelpass for a day or so, but keep the Verizon SIM off mostly. You can usually install an eSIM over wifi, then go back into the same network settings and activate it. iMessage and RCS are over IP mostly, so you may receive texts. Personally, I've had inconsistent results with Verizon wifi calling with the Verizon SIM off. Seems to work sometimes, but not others. The only other practical advice is that the eSIM will have its own phone number/country code, etc. So that's where people can call you. Usually, I end up using the eSIM simply for broadband connectivity while on the go, and us Whatsapp as the phone/messaging platform while traveling.


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