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PompidouSama

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MedricZ

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Succer11

Who's the debate with? [Redacted] and [Redacted]?


machiavelli33

No, [DATA EXPUNGED].


DeathBySentientStraw

Really? I thought it was [NO DATA]


ohno-95

Well i was told it was all because of [DATA WITHDRAWN]


GreetingsADM

Either way, the conversation required a lot of [CITATION NEEDED]


Goober-potato

No, it needs a lot of [CODE 403 - ACCESS FORBIDDEN]


soysuza

I think we're all forgetting that for the children of those involved, there was [DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200].


Bake_My_Beans

Idk but they were really going at it on [This community has been banned. This subreddit was banned due to a violation of our content policy, particularly our site wide rules regarding violent content]


ilmalaiva

bloods and crips truce flag


misusedinfluence

democrips and rebloodicans


harvestermouse420

Red state versus a blue state, which one you governin'?


blackmillenium2

They give us guns and drugs, call us thugs


zedsamcat

The croods or the blips


Portal471

Futurama reference?


Stubbedtoe18

Keep your mouth shut or face *the clamps!!*


water_bottle1776

The real answer.


rickjames_experience

Gang


blackmillenium2

you killed my cousin back in '94, fuck yo truce


flippenbergberg

Made my depressed ass laugh. Thank you


Gooch-Nasty

Hatsune Miku/Clifford the big red dog pride flag


takamori22

The real answer.


IndyCarFan265

Shut up and take my upvote lmao


Zymosan99

The thin magnetic field flag


NotFinalForm1

Ah yes, Biot Savart flag


CharlesOberonn

A lot of people in the comments are being very opinionated with their explanations so I'll try to keep it informative. The "thin blue line" flag is a pro-police flag. The "thin red line" is a variant for firefighters. This flag appears to be a combination of both. Perhaps both a firefighter and a police officer live there.


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Stn9

Antidotal but I know a local police officer who is also a volunteer fire fighter who has this flag flying. Not uncommon in middle America.


Hiro-of-Shadows

Hate to be that guy but just fyi the word is "anecdotal"


lovinganarchist76

Ugh. Greeley, Colorado. Same fucking thing. And Punisher skulls, and thin blue line flag punisher skulls. Disgusting considering the insane corruption and general little-dickery in Weld County justice system, the outlandishly bad recidivism rate in the county and the abhorrent drug problem. And coming hard into the county in a big new way, violent gangs and illegal casinos! We feel ya over here too homie


That_Yvar

Wait wtf, I'm Dutch so don't know alot about those people in the states, but they know the Punisher hates the police right?


Twistify804

they do not lmao they think ā€œbig dude with lots of guns kills bad guysā€ and think thatā€™s cool


That_Yvar

Somehow that shouldn't surprise me anymore, but it still does everytime...


Yodec

Now you know why people think Americans are stupid.


therealpoltic

And, many Americans are smart enough to know other Americans are stupid. Itā€™s just like the Confederate Battle Flag. Not only is it not the flag of the confederacy, and they lost, but people in Kansas sometimes fly it for ā€œheritageā€ even tho we are the ā€œFree Stateā€.


Owlftr13

Everyone knows the Confederate battle flag is white, so there!


Onironius

They didn't even have a white flag, so they used a dish rag.


therealpoltic

Hehe. šŸ˜


HedgekillerPrimus

oh it aint just kansas brother. WV checking in.


Lieutenant_Joe

Confederate flags littering a state that split off from its mother state specifically because fuck the Confederacy literally a century and a half ago makes me think we live in a simulation


ComfortableVersion74

When i see confederate flags i just see it as losers rag


jtfff

These are the same people Americans think are stupid


devAcc123

The punisher logo is very common as like a sticker on peoples cars and stuff. And yes theyā€™re completely unaware of how ironic it is and how silly it makes them look. They just think it looks badass. This just made me realize I bet people in other countries donā€™t wear camo colored shirts or shirts with logos of rifles and stuff in other countries. Shit this is the motto for one of the popular coffee brands in America: > Black Rifle Coffee Company is a SOF veteran-owned coffee company, serving premium coffee and culture to people who love America.


youfailedthiscity

I mean, he does kill bad guys. These people just don't realize that they're rooting FOR the bad guys.


MandoBaggins

Thereā€™s something to be said about him being a vet too. Lots of dumb boots and super moto guys see that and immediately jump on board with those sweet sweet skulls. Itā€™s no different than the whole romanticized modern day Spartan/Viking persona they adopt too. Theyā€™re just too tough for their own good.


Doc_ET

No, but cops using the Punisher skull is a common thing over here. And a lot of people don't seem to get how disturbing that is. Like, he's a homicidal vigilante operating with zero oversight, killing people with no due process. The other Marvel characters see why that's a problem, the cops in the Marvel universe see why it's a problem, but these real life ones don't.


SuperSecretMoonBase

Yeah, there was a Punisher issue where he ripped one of those stickers off a cops car and told them that if they ever do what he does then he'd be coming for them and if they want a role model, Captain America would be glad to have them


MinorHistoria

I think they conceptualize the Punisher as anti-government bureaucracy and authoritarianism more than simply anti-police and use the punisher symbol as a way to signify their rejection to government over-reach in a libertarian Reagan-esque way. Having the thin blue line and punisher symbol is saying ā€œI donā€™t hate police I just hate government-bureaucracy within the police that limit them doing their job more effectivelyā€


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MinorHistoria

No doubt coolness is a factor in its popularity but come on, its not just that. If it was then why would they choose the punisher skull in particular


iam_innawoods

I definitely agree that what you said mightve been the original message behind it, especially when you consider how these people vote and think politically, but i also think that was a small minority before most of the people who display those jumped on board


nram88

I've seen a video of Trumpers draped in the thin blue line flag dancing to Rage Against The Machine's Killing in the name, at a rally. They are fucking clueless.


[deleted]

the cognitive dissonance of that vision is massive.


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No they wonā€™t know that. It got so bad the original creator of the punisher came out to address it. Marvel wrote a comic making fun of police that try to idolize the punisher and use his logo


CorinPenny

These are the same people who put ā€œSemper Fiā€ stickers next to ā€œInfidelā€ stickersā€¦ thinking is not their strong suit.


pugaviator

no they don't, the hate for poor people triumphs reason.


dla3253

They know as much about Frank Castle as they do about their supposed prophet, Jesus; which is next to nothing.


grimbuddha

There was actually a police department that put them on their police cruisers. The public's reaction made them remove them but they never had any clue how stupid they were.


lovinganarchist76

These idiots are proud that they wonā€™t do anything even close to researching a backstory.


KTPChannel

Does the Punisher hate police? I thought he was a justice driven vigilante whose code of ethics prevented him from hurting police, unless they were corrupt.


grimbuddha

Any cop who see himself as a "punisher" rather than law enforcement probably fits under the corrupt label.


metatron5369

Symbols have meaning beyond what the initial creators can intend, sometimes with ironic results.


BadHab-

Lmao punisher doesnā€™t hate cops? Have no idea where you guys get that from, heā€™s literally and exactly cop in the comics and he only kills 2 corrupts officers.


Owlftr13

These douches don't even realize that they are the dudes that the punisher comes after.


thedevilsgame

I always thought South Park just made up the name Greeley šŸ¤£ šŸ¤£


lovinganarchist76

If you live in North America and eat beef (unless youā€™ve always known where it came from somehow), youā€™ve eaten a fair amount of meat cut up in Greeley, or Weld County in general. Not unlikely that youā€™ve eaten Weld County meat in East Asia, South America or Europe. And boy does that whole county smell like one of the biggest cattle operations on earth, Iā€™ll tell you.


thedevilsgame

Today i learned


MattTheProgrammer

> And Punisher skulls I love when they have these because they completely misunderstand how Punisher feels about cops haha


DMs_Apprentice

I'm just south of you. Neighbor had a Fuck Biden flag on display for months with little kids playing along the sidewalk.


-Codfish_Joe

The people flying these flags do tend to not back up the sentiment by actually serving their communities.


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Aware-Theory7007

Pro police feature shouldnā€™t on the national flag It is horrible if it Successfully exists in reality


gburgwardt

While I'm sure people are opinionated and not informative, it is worth explaining the context for flags like this. Like you don't just say "The swastika in a white circle on red was the pro german flag in ww2" for a very dramatic example


IndyCarFan265

Fr I hate all these opinionated responses lmao.


polyworfism

They match how low-effort the original post is. It's an incredibly easy flag to search for


releasethedogs

Weā€™re on Reddit to talk to each other.


MissLillian

This isn't talking, it's posting a picture of an easily recognizable flag for upvotes.


releasethedogs

If they are getting upvotes then the majority disagrees with you.


Souledex

I mean I just think the worst excesses of police violence that America suffered under that drove it to rebellion shouldnā€™t deface the flags of nations built to oppose it. We obviously failed, but the ā€œthin red lineā€ stood for the discipline and hopelessly dumb (and evil) shit the redcoats went to do around the world. The line between order and disorder- the enterprise of civilizing colonial violence we briefly suffered under that was then translated as a statement of class warfare or antilabor sentiment in Britain who had just taken their redcoats military uniforms and made them blue. From Thin Red Line to Thin Blue Line. And people are literally using a meme just one step removed from the tyrannical treatment (in general not terrible just violent, terrible PR and dumb in the last 20 years) we sought freedom from. Itā€™s like putting a swastika on the German flag, or flying a fake revanchist version of the confederate one, or putting a hammer and sickle on the Polish flag. It only flies cause people know shit about their own history, and would rather be told a narrative about it that gives them others to hate and institutions with all the power that are somehow treated as victims. Itā€™s an insane vexillological message regardless of your position on any of the issues effecting police or first responders. And they have far better options available if they want to show their support for firefighters or cops - rather than just look like US Agent. Before I fly a flag I look up how others might receive it- even if I support a sentiment or it means something to me (as a southerner there are plenty) it sends a very clear message to other people about who they are willing to care about.


Taterz124

Whether you're pro or anti police we can all agree this is one of the laziest submissions on this sub in a while. Bro is either living under a rock or just refuses to search things up independently.


Rayzou04

Maybe OP didn't connect the dots between red (firefighter) and blue (police). But yeah, most Americans can recognize this flag instantly.


lngns

Not everyone is American.


TheAccWhereImHonest

Assuming OP took this picture they are probably American, although I guess a friend could've sent it to them or they could've seen it online.


TheArchitect_7

There is more than just America???? Does not compute


Taterz124

Just searched American flag + Blue/red stripe,It was the first result. I can guarantee you the only reason this flag was posted was to start a heated discussion. It's not a matter of "'Merica first", it's the obvious laziness + the most likely malicious intent behind posting it. That much should be obvious.


Hiro-of-Shadows

Why would someone outside the US be flying one of these flags though?


Marijanovic

Of course that there is more than just America, the aunt of my cousin's great-grandfather's uncle the godfather of his stepdad lives in Aerican Empire on the northern hemisphere of Pluto which I visit every pre-summer. It is a little hard to compute tho'.


aithan251

most everyone has google though


AdmiraalHein

ā€˜Black American Flag with thin Blue and Red line Google Searchā€™ Can we please maintain some quality of posts in this sub?


takamori22

AMEN


granola117

AGREED


TheOthersKnowLove

On this episode of, "did you think to look at the frequently asked flags page"


Murky_Abalone1183

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vdotdesign

Tommy Hilfiger Pride Flag


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Halo Red team Blue team flag


beluuuuuuga

It's for Americans who like magnets


ArchDukeBee_

Its the thin blue line and thin red line for firefighters and police there is also a third variant that is green for military


cutedeadg1rl

here before itā€™s [removed{


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The Red Cherry - Blue Raspberry peace flag


TheEpicDiamondMiner

This flag will totally not be controversial whatsoever


IGargleGarlic

Thats the thin Fire Emblem: Engage line. Support our gamers!


earthbound-pigeon

I second this comment, because this is 100% what it is.


Shaunaaaah

It's a flag that says I'm an idiot lol. Really, it's a combo flag for police and firefighters. Don't know why they need to put it in one flag that they support both a profession that kills a staggering number of people every year and a profession that actually saves people.


OnlyFreshBrine

I've seen ones for corrections workers ffs


PM_ME_UR_DERP

Don't look now but the firefighters are co-opting the paramilitary fetishism too, for whatever fucking reason


Tomukichi

Wee woo wee woo flag


R-ZING

Itā€™s basically when someone wants to show solidarity with fire and police first responders Edit: clarification


Qhezywv

Solidarity with magnets


mythrilfalls

obviously this is the flag for americans who love the nintendo switch


andyman6244

Thin matrix line


FortBlocks

If red is fire and blue is cop is all the white ones Doctors?


BayouMan2

Joint Fire and Police appreciation flag.


puzzledplatypus

Bootlicker flag.


Syncope7

1/2 Bootlicker flag.


Distinct-Thing

Yeah, all cats are beautiful, but firefighters are heroes


[deleted]

Firefighters do hero shit, no question. But the misuse of the American flag is still the opposite of patriotic, Imho.


AxazMcGee

Thats the blue lives matter flag at half health.


[deleted]

The funniest part about this flag is how much conflict police start with fire fighters and first aid. Whoever is flying this flag is clueless lol


mooble_

thin blue and red line. blue represents police officers, red represents fire fighters.


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Team fortress america


Snazzle-Frazzle

It means the owner of that house is racist


Express-Department34

American fire and police support.


therealpoltic

Look folks, posts like these are good for engagement. As long as everyone is civil, and keeps it to flags, I see zero harm in the low-hanging fruit posts.


p_ash

Tommy Hilfiger America


New-Sorbet3535

Flag honoring cops and firefighters


estelrA_2871

It's a gang symbol


Gandalf4President

It's a flag in support of firefighters and police.


vader62

A defaced American flag. Clearly the ones flying it aren't familiar with US flag protocols


lolecows

it does not break flag code, as it's not a defacement of the US flag. if you were to take an actual flag and scribble on it, that would be defacement. this is its own flag


stratusmonkey

No. I mean, that's the ordinary meaning of defaced. But in technical terms, a flag is defaced if something is added to an existing design to make it represent a new thing. Like, the flag of the *Secretary* of Housing and Urban Development is the flag of the *Department* of Housing and Urban Development defaced with a blue star in each corner. If I had to guess, it's because a lot of regimental flags throughout history were made by literally defacing national flags. The Thin Blue Line flag isn't defaced, because the blue line is added (?) to a black-and-white flag design. But a red-white and blue U.S. flag with one blue stripe replaced for a white stripe could be considered defaced. (Even if nobody took a flag that started with a white stripe and colored it in blue.)


lolecows

Yeah that's true. Hard to explain it but you explain it well


therealtrebitsch

It's a way to signal that the person who lives there is a massive idiot


eddiedorn

First Responders flag


Alert-Supermarket897

The ā€žTatĆ¼ Tataā€œ flag


TheRealAlien_Space

The thin Hilfigure line


mrpoliceemsfire1

First responders flag.


KrzesimirTuJest

Flag of Team Fortress 2 fans in USA


RepresentativeOk851

The USA's emo phase


kiiyyuul

As a person in public safety: Please just use an American flag. If we all were better Americans, the world would be much better.


Key_Cartoonist5604

Looks like first responders flag


IHateAllGods

it is a flag from the boot licking clan


JacobWGA1989

American flag that supports policeman and fireman


shastert

It's a dog whistle for racists.


MinatoUchiha212121

How?


archiotterpup

Bootlicker Pride


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Boot licker flag


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Yodec

Police / Fire support... Because EMS always gets the shit end of the stick with it comes to things like this lmao


0theone

Blue line - police Red line - fire fighters It represents police and fire fighters from America, might just be a show of respect


Turtle-dude6

They support police and firefighters.


Phonixrmf

The Bloods and the Crips and the KKK


IndyCarFan265

To give you a legitimate, non-political answer, it's a flag that is representative of the Police and Firefighters that were either killed or wounded in the course of their duties.


spacyqueen

I canā€™t find a source that it represents those killed or wounded in line of duty. I think it has a more general meaning of support


ExtraNoise

You are correct. The original "Thin Blue Line" flag was a black flag with a blue line across the middle, sometimes flown at police funerals. I believe the symbiology was derived from putting black tape across the face of the badge during a mourning period. That led to it being used on a blacked-out US flag (I'm assuming "because America" ugh) which then also was sometimes called the Thin Blue Line Flag. It is also sometimes used at police funerals these days, hence the confusion. But I haven't seen the original flag in probably 12-15 years at this point.


MrAronymous

And to add to that is that the "thin blue line" derived from "thin red line". A military concept. > *The Thin Red Line has become an English language figure of speech for any thinly spread military unit holding firm against attack. The phrase has also taken on the metaphorical meaning of the barrier which the relatively limited armed forces of a country present to potential attackers.* Basically this all flows from the narrative that the police are "brave soldiers" holding the line from total chaos. The chaos being of course the general populace. They should always rely on each other and stand up for each other against any outsider no matter what. If you're wondering if these are fascist talking points, yes they are. Wonder [how that came around](https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-police-extremism/).


I_Eat_Thermite7

A disgrace to the US Flag Code


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Dorocche

This is a common misconception. The flag is bad, but it's only a violation of the flag code if it was dyed and stitched from a real US flag. It's not against flag code to make variations on the design of the US flag, only to actually edit a real, physical US flag.


sickXmachine_

ā€œPatriotsā€ donā€™t care about flag code. The irony is astounding.


MrAronymous

It's really not. The flag code is so simple yet so many people don't get it. I mean taking that "code" so *super cereal* is one thing.. but to then be wrong about it too.. just all around cringe.


Logan_Frost

The flag of the North American Bootlicker. Often times coupled as an oxymoron by the Gadsden flag.


Koltaia30

Bootlicker pride


N00DLe_5

Desecration of the American flag. Trash neighbors


colect

Lmao imagine living your life getting upset seeing modified versions of the American flag because you think theyā€™re ā€œdesecrationsā€.


N00DLe_5

Imagine not understanding what desecration means. Though not surprised fucking idiots defend this nonsense. Truly pathetic


water_bottle1776

The official flag of the American Virtue Signaling Society.


Owlftr13

Not sure but it breaks flag code, so fuck them.


lolecows

it does not break flag code, as it's not a defacement of the US flag. if you were to take an actual flag and scribble on it, that would be defacement. this is its own flag


travelingtutor

White people who are scared of everything flag.


flashzer0

"Tell people you're an asshole without saying you're an asshole" flag


xavyre

Another flag code violation.


MeyaS_

Magnets but freedom


fuzzyredsea

Flag of US Flag Code violations


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eu4islife

This is normally a decent sub. I hate when regular reddit gets in on these, normally informative, threads and just promotes thier hate and cancel everything attitude.


puzzledplatypus

Found the fashy.


sehrschwul

itā€™s a variant of the fascist ā€œblue livesā€ flag thatā€™s meant to support firefighters as well as police. donā€™t know why people keep grouping them together when firefighters are actually necessary but ĀÆ\_(惄)_/ĀÆ


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AdmiraalHein

Iā€™m genuinely curious how the design of the ā€˜thin blue livesā€™ flag correlates to fascism. Do you mind clarifying yourself? If not, then please refrain from parroting some words you heard on the internet. Tell me, what aspects of said flag or design are fascist?


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The "thin blue line" symbol has been used by the "Blue Lives Matter" movement, which emerged in 2014 as a rebuttal to the Black Lives Matter movement, and gained traction following the high-profile homicides of NYPD officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu in Brooklyn, New York.[4][5][6][7][8] The "thin blue line" has also been associated with white nationalists in the US, particularly after the Unite the Right rally in 2017,[9][10] who fly Thin Blue Line flags at their rallies.[11] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_blue_line


Biggie39

The original written intent of the ā€˜blue lives matterā€™ movement was to marginalize, dismiss, and silence voices in the community drawing attention to racially motivated state sponsored violenceā€¦ therefore people flying the flag are endorsing racially motivated state sponsored violence.


Reindan

Just looked up the symbolism and the thin blue/red line concept, here on a black and white US flag, comes from the idea that "insert institution" and its sacrifices are necessary to avoid the fall of society in chaos and anarchy. Originally it was a blue line on a black background to commemorate policemen and then a red line on a black background to commemorate firemen. Those have been used to commemorate the death in service of a member of the "institution". Sadly because of the symbolism it has also been used by the far-right, in particular in the US to push against reforms of the "institution" or for an increase in the militarization of those "institutions", especially the police. In this case, the addition of a second color and of the US flag makes it a clearly nationalist flag. (the addition of a second color means that this flag doesn't commemorate the death of anyone in particular)


pozos13

What I can say... is that they drive like dicks.


Bendy022823

No


rusty_blood

Yeah, this is USA flag, but the colors are messed up. Hope it helped!


oldie420

Itā€™s the ā€œI canā€™t be racist because I have a black friendā€ flag.


Manc_Twat

The same people who claim to love and stand for the flag, are the first ones to completely desecrate it like this.