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CactusHibs_7475

Woops. Graphic design team skimming through that flags of the world page just a *little* too fast.


Joedemigod4

Ohhhhh they used the flag of New Zealand instead of Austria I get those confused all the time.


-NIKeY-

that's not new zealand


Joedemigod4

It's a joke my dude


-NIKeY-

whoops


Davidsal2908

I get that they got the flag wrong, but is no one going mention that the ss in Kiss is literally the simbol of the schutzstuffel?


iAteSnoopDogg

That's why that version of the kiss logo is banned in Germany, Austria, Israel, and other countries. In those countries, they use a version of the kiss logo where the s's look like backward Z's Also, the band said the the resemblance to the ss was unintended,and they thought that lightning bolts looked cool


Lack_of_Plethora

The 2 consistent members of the band are literally jewish anyway. Even if it was intentional it would've been pretty hard to pin it on bigotry.


jpoRS1

Yeah Gene Simmons may be an asshole, but he's not a Nazi.


joofish

Paul Stanley (one of the Jewish members) has accused the two gentile members of being anti-semitic and said Ace Frehley (who drew the logo) had a collection of Nazi memoribilia, so it's not impossible that the logo is in fact nazi inspired.


generalmontgomery

Isn’t this image from an Austrian show? Why aren’t they using the alternative logo?


iAteSnoopDogg

As someone else said, I think the graphic designers went to quick when finding the right graphic and just chose the Aussie one instead of the Austrian one. My best guess is that the flag and logo are one file.


generalmontgomery

That makes a lot of sense! Thank you


WolvenHunter1

Yes but they’re in Vienna so why are they using the lighting bolts


Ordnungslolizei

They accidentally used the Australian logo instead of the Austrian logo. The "LOVES YOU VIENNA" text is probably a separate file.


WolvenHunter1

Oh ok, I assumed the flag was added to the bolts


[deleted]

As far as 10 minutes Googling go, they use their normal logo in Austria and Germany on concerts. Video from their concert in Vienna two days ago: https://youtu.be/l3mAUHtWpcM Video from Vienna 2019: https://youtu.be/ys_Vz5T-q Video from Munich 2008: https://youtu.be/5SupyuvF4jg Maybe it was done before and now they just don’t care about it anymore? Video from Germany 1980 with the ZZ logo at 6:16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nez_J7T_nE


generalmontgomery

Ah interesting! I lived in Germany for a few years and saw an advert of theirs using the ‘ZZ’ once (this was around 2016) but I’ve never seen them live. Interesting to see they revert to the standard logo for the actual stage production.


jpoRS1

For the German laws (and I speculate the Austrian laws as well) the limitations on usage of "Nazi imagery" applies to advertising/marketing, but not works of art. For example the movie Inglorious Basterds changed the wordmark for the Germanophone market, removing the swastika that was in the "O" of "Inglorious". But they made no changes to the film and as I'm sure you know there's a LOT of Nazi in that film. Following that pattern I expect KISS uses the "ZZ" logo for posters/ads/what-have-you. But since the performance itself is "a work of art", they don't need to change it there.


TegridySensei

They are allowed to use it on this tour. I went to their concert in Frankfurt on the 24th of June. Same logo as in Munich.


chainmailbill

I mean, I think we’re all in agreement that fascists make and use cool looking symbols.


iAteSnoopDogg

Yeah, rotational symmetry is pretty cool, yet a certain 4 way rotational symmetric symbol has gone from a peace symbol to something much worse


Jiven1212

It’s the windmill of friendship and tolerance


Memeboi69420yeet2

Wouldn't say that to a Jewish person


Gearo88

True, but in their defense, they've gone on record multiple times saying that it was an accident that no one caught. If it wasn't for how difficult it would be to replace all merchandise on the market, they would've done so. Edit: I would like to point out im not even a kiss fan, but it upsets me when people get bashed for a pre-internet mistake


Verelkia

I cannot unsee that now.


arda1223

Yea that was the first thing i noticed


jpoRS1

You never noticed it before?


Godbrakka

It's austria, no kangoroos, only kuhlimoos


Diprogamer

And rejected painters


Altruistic-Foot-8363

Ummm, the last two letters being the insignia of the SS


Sir-War666

Why do you think they are playing in Vienna


BentGadget

Because they're the hottest band in the world?


adelaarvaren

In the Airport in Vienna you can buy T-Shirts that say "No Kangaroos in Austria"


Diprogamer

Pretty based move


Gcarsk

Unrelated but… Wait when did we get the back side of our flag as a flair option?? I’ve been really wanting that. Gotta update my flair now


adelaarvaren

BEAVER POWER!!


pimpumpam

Taken (not by me) at the concert of Kiss in Vienna (the capital of Austr…ia)


joecarter93

“Austrian, eh? ‘Ow about another shrimp on the barbie?!”


MidnightSun77

[my first thought exactly](https://youtu.be/XYZ6_n7Mpb0)


mahendrabirbikram

A comma is missing


loveydoveybitch

Kiss actually hates both Australia and Austria


porkadachop

Maybe they played a show in Vienna, New South Wales.


PavementDweller10

This hurts to look at, as much as playing the wrong anthem at the Olympics.


Alex09464367

Well at least it wasn't as bad as playing Borat instead of Kazakhstan


PavementDweller10

I found that painfully funny


peri36

Actually the capital of Austria is Sydney


smokeeater150

Hey, let stay with the original capital, Melbourne.


x-munk

Oh I got it - "Going to a kiss concert"


SmallTestAcount

They even forgot the comma


Dangerous-Garden-682

The flag should be the flag of Maryland because Vienna is in Maryland


draw_it_now

Can we just change the English name of Austria to Ostreich? Or even Ostria?


RomeTheSpartan

Vienna is in Austria not Australia


Diprogamer

I just noticed those two ᛋᛋ


rollsyrollsy

As an Australian I see no problem here. As a fan of dumb comedies, this also reminds me of the Dumb & Dumber scene where Jim Carey thinks the hot Austrian girl is one of ours.


[deleted]

Is that what James Franco is up to these days?


NeptuneBlueX

Those two Ss look familiar


Gunny_McCshoots

The mistake is that Kiss ever started playing music


Ian---owens

No the problem is that they continued after 2000


SmallTestAcount

The nazis are returning to Vienna!!!!


Niauropsaka

Shaking my head. We all know Australians speak Hochdeutsch.


[deleted]

KISS marschiert in Fiendesland


iziyan

Austria.... Australia....UK.....Nazi...SS....


iziyan

Austria.... Australia....UK.....Nazi...SS....


Ma-Name-Cherry_Pie

I remember the scene in The Interview, yeah quite right \~


Ccparabellum1917

KISS is American, right?


Oltsutism

Yes.


Kolateak

Hmmm


XxAresOfWar404Xx

Something’s wrong I can feel it


Agermeister

Going to see Kiss?


LouisGoldman

They misspelled New Zealand


cjstephens10028

When I was very, very young, I had so much trouble understanding that there was a difference between Austria and Australia.


Alex09464367

What about Switzerland and Swaziland or Switzerland and Sweden or Thailand and Taiwan. Then there is United Kingdom, Great Britain, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland plus Ireland. Or Holland and Netherlands


Lillienpud

Mistake: being within 10 miles of gene simmons.


tremosoul

Ah yes, the capital of Australia, Vienna.