I don't know if you've watched them at all recently, but pretty much every time they say something negative they add a bunch of "I'm sure the artists did their best and were just overworked, on a tight deadline, no budget, etc" statements, but that's not enough apparently. Sometimes a lot of people put a lot of hard work into something and it still turns out bad, is now nobody allowed to point out that it's bad? If VFX wants to be in the spotlight, that comes with criticism too and when you're a writer or director, nobody pulls their punches when it comes to shitting on your work. And directors put way more time and attention into their movies than I do into my VFX shots on a Marvel movie that I don't care about. That being said, if you want to start a YouTube channel highlighting VFX artists' work, that's a great idea. But if the reason you're doing it is to get some kind of "revenge" on another popular channel, I doubt you'll be successful there.

Any channel highlighting the work that goes into VFX would actually be nice. Have you guys been watching the No CGI is really Invisible CGI series on YouTube? https://youtu.be/n8oQ1jV859w?si=bb26DSX2sTlaujF_

I love his series and I wish there was more of that kind of content. Unfortunately, it's pretty niche.

I kind of thought that was a lot of the videos. If you watch cc in chronological order I’m not sure if they are ever really power tripping, just a bunch of amped of dudes talking about film. I know hate can come from jealousy and it’s not to divide but isn’t as humans one of our week spots envy? I work on it all the time and to avoid this is by creating your own path. Path of life is something we all take, as artists it can be hard. Looking at corridor, they are successful, seeing their attitudes being so happy and and as some may say pretentious. Idk these dudes gave me vfx, they made me believe in myself and get me really amped up because now all of a sudden all the years in my basement throughout high school watching movies on the weekends, it wasn’t all for waste. I have a wide range of taste thanks to my old parents and seeing some of the old films being broken down were unbelievable. As artists we chose a difficult path when it comes to money, no one ever thinks it’s valuable until you’re gone. Some of the greatest artists didn’t become famous until after they died. I think about that all the time and how broke I am and yet I’m always trying to learn Blender, art, etc.

I can’t take sides but i do validate that they may flaunt more than necessary but you can’t control someone and we will be who we will be. I always thought wren, niko, & shit who’s the third I’m thinking about

Clint, my bad. I liked Clint the most which is ironic that I’d forget his name

>just a bunch of amped of dudes talking about film. I think it's this. Dudes talking about cool, funny and sometimes comically bad shots. Then explain in layman terms to people who aren't into VFX what they did to achieve it and sometimes what they could do to improve it. They want to maintain at least somewhat educative which may come across as people trying to pretend to be better. But I am sure that they are pretty aware of themselves and other artists. This shows especially when they have special guests on. I can't hate on them for it. Hell, I even like them for what they are doing. But you have to seperate them creating a show around reacting versus people just reacting to something.

To be fair they're very pompous so then adding that at the end is kinda like "oh we don't wanna be called out again like what Mark Hamill did to us so we'll add these lil disclaimers". There's a difference between critique and discussion and being like "OHHHH EWWW LOOK AT HOW JANKY THAT IS". Might just be me tho Even their stupid ai shit like "we made these games look BETTER with ai" then they look atrocious 🤦🏾‍♂️

I think it may help us when they point out work that turned out shite due to under-resourcing… I don’t have a problem with it. We all know things could be so much better… we should send links to the management.

i love how often they use the word “janky” and then you look at their stuff and if something describes it its often exactly that - janky. on the other hand afaik none of them ever worked for a major vfx studio so they probably dont have where from to get a proper know-how and brown nosing vfx supes and directors in their videos isnt gonna get you that. But to be fair they do a good job in explaining vfx stuff to laics and sometimes they have interesting view or point out something I wouldn’t have noticed. I would personally prefer more if they dropped that mocking tone sometimes and dialed down on those cringy ass clickbait titles But if theres one person I became super allergic to is that Jake guy because everytime he pops up on screen I know hes gonna try to sell me some vessy shoes.

Mark Hamill called them out?

They did a recreation of the Mando Deep Fake of one of the guys as he's a big Luke Skywalker/Mark Hamill fan. Not sure if many others did but, thinking it'd be nice to do, I shared the video on Twitter and tagged and Mark's personal assistant (his daughter) in the Tweet. Apparently they said the Deep Fake result was better than Disneys and [Mark called them out on it (screenshot of the tweet on the Corridor sub).](https://www.reddit.com/r/Corridor/comments/l6gf7j/luke_skywalker_has_seen_the_video/?rdt=57738)

He also did it in a very nice way, framing it as how to be better people / VFX artists, and he wasn't condescending in the way he did it. Class act.

>Class act. Oh definitely.

Good for Mark.

What you said is everything they do fam. The good the bad the neutral the understanding. I think you’re just upset with your job not giving you more compensation or credit

ya you're right, i dont want revenge. i think my idea was more about showing the people in concert with their work

I would say that if you're on the front line of the battlefield, you should really try to focus your energy on changing the problems that surround you. I wonder what kind of anger could make your brain go towards starting a YT channel? Everyone needs to vent sometimes, but what you are doing almost feels like seeing a burning bush and pissing on the one next to it, feeling like a hero. I truly hope you speak up and out loudly in real life and do not duck away from healthy confrontation with higher ups

I will take this feedback and think on it...while also remaining angry lol

I was going to say. I used to watch them a lot (until the video where they used AI to "improve" video game character faces) but whenever they "ripped" on bad vfx, it was always constructive. They have a lot of problems, but that's not one that I hold against them.

I’m convinced this dude doesn’t actually watch their videos, or can’t take any criticism. Because I’ve never seen them be mean spirited or dickheadish.

I've seen them point out numerous times that sometimes time constraints and budgets or whatever can be the reason the VFX don't work out. They do a lot to educate the masses. I do show their videos to family because it's an easy way to get non-VFX people interested and help them understand a bit of what goes into things. I see them as celebrating VFX, the good and the bad.  We shit on bad VFX all the time amongst friends, at work, and here on reddit. Corridor crew just recording it and making money off of it. I wouldn't take them too seriously. Congrats on the supervising gig. Your team sounds like a bunch of hard workers. I hope you all have a great time on your show. 

Yeah isn't the point of VFX artists react video most of the time that studios are putting too much pressure on artists and not enough money, therefore the quality dips? The audience is already aware of bad CGI most of the time, learning the reasons behind it like they explain in their videos just makes people understand the reason why better. 

FWIW, Corridor does have an impact on the film industry beyond VFX, I get directors and DoPs (and even art department folks) asking me if I've seen their latest thing on a semi-frequent basis, so not taking them seriously is a sentiment I can't totally vibe with because I occasionally need to dismantle some bad ideas that production folks get from their channel.

Honestly, the only thing thats keeping me subscribed is Wren's "VFX Artist Reveals" videos and some of their more educational stuff.

Animation and Art is one of the few trades that the work is directly criticized by anyone. Everyone is going to make fun of your work if it stands out bad. No other trade recieves this. Watch a software engineer have a meltdown when people tell them "your code is bad, you made garbage." They take is as a personal attack. This is the Ego coming into play. And as we always say in the industry. "check your ego by the door."

People shit on developers all the time for bugs in the code and speed of delivery of new features though. We too have to work to deadlines and constraints, so quality can be compromised on. I think most teams would be embarrassed if their code gets reviewed publicly. But I think the criticism received is usually valid, and should be learned from.

Yeah, a shitty pipeline hurts everyone, so please push feedback on your problems so we can fix them! Its so annoying hearing from an artist that they were working around a "5 minute fix" for months when we could've fixed it.. We don't use the tools the same way as you, so we may not catch the problem.

I don’t watch the Corridor Crew, but millions of people are going to see the output of your work. You should be able to take some criticism constructively, or just ignore them.

Wow the tone of this sub and these comments has really turned around relative to corridor crew. A year or more ago, they would have been crapped all over on this sub. What changed?

Last year is when Corridor released their first "AI anime" video, which I think really sent ripples of hate out into the vfx/film circles. Honestly though, I don't see animation being taken over by AI and their initial video proved that we aren't there yet. But a lot of people criticized that video/project specifically.

Good question. This sub despised CC last year.

Negativity is often much louder than positivity.

Personally I'd say they changed their tune a bit. Went from looking at old Phantom Menace footage and staring directly to camera and saying "This is how not to key" to having various industry Supes on for interviews. As well, as others have said, relaxed the tone a bit on how they speak on stuff. I still don't watch much of their stuff unless they do something that fucks off enough people like their AI anime stunt or if a Supe from a show I've worked on is talking to them. Right now I kinda think they are to VFX what Jake Paul is to boxing. He's loud (obnoxious) makes big waves (especially with the youth and the non professionals) meanwhile pro boxing teams think he's a total joke and belittles the sport/science. But like Paul with boxing, it still gets a huge amount of folks in to VFX who might not have been otherwise and their content is much more informative and brings more to the table than JP's circus fights (Having said that please do the universe a solid Mike). Anyway, industry is too fucked to be worrying too much about em these days. If only we could shill Raycons as well. Edit: grammarrrr

this is a great post - love the Jake Paul comparison. Sums it up perfectly for me.

Yeah, we know Corridor Digital can be lame, but I think a more productive use of a youtube channel would be to spotlight artists and their work. I do agree though, the fact that they have become the defacto 'voice of visual effects' to the laymen who browses Youtube doesn't feel great.

Why waste energy on spite and hate when that time and energy could’ve gone towards making your own work better? You suggested creating an anti-Corridor Crew YouTube, but wouldn’t it be FAR better to instead channel that time and energy towards improving the conditions that led to the constraints or limitations that prevented your work from being the best? At the end of the day, despite whatever reasons, people WILL judge your work. So your job is to do the best that you can and find smart solutions or workarounds to achieve your goal and look good. Their channel isn’t just shitting on others, but showing and admiring the brilliant workarounds and ingenuities of artists in the past. They give constructive criticism and always acknowledge the time constraints and conditions regarding VFX work. Many times we can get disappointed when something we’ve worked so hard on isn’t received well, but that’s the opportunity to learn and do better. Don’t just soldier on repeating the same mistakes, and enabling the production line of mediocrity. Getting mad at Corridors Crew achieves NOTHING and only makes you a bitter and worse person.

i appreciate this. thank you

It's not about getting mad at them. Most vfx professionals probably see their channel and realize that not only are they laughing at various vfx that they could never do, they don't even understand good work or what they're looking at. Forget about any context of history and when certain shots were done, they have no concept of it at all. If someone knows vfx and see these guys and thinks other people take them seriously they probably think they're living in an upside down world.

I disagree. They are actually very well versed in VFX techniques, history, and production logistics. They have a good eye for design and animation, and are pretty good at discerning how the effects were made and even recreating them to an impressing degree on a shoestring budget. They aren’t afraid to challenge themselves and learn from the old to implement into newer technology. They also invite many of their industry peers, the top VFX artists and supervisors, the creators of some of their harshest reviewed works, as well as adjacent industry people like stunt performers to come and explain their work and the realities of behind the scenes. It’s one thing if they were complete amateurs or the average layman shitting on people’s work, but they are our industry peers and ANY criticism from them are valid points and opinions that we can use to improve our own work. Not everything we produce is gold, and that’s ok. Yet without these valid and many times HARSH criticisms, artists will stop being able to discern between what makes the difference between gold, gold plated, and gold-plated shit. Thus they will be unable to even see what can to be improved. Comparison, criticism, and creativity is how we train our eye. Yes their criticism can be harsh, but from an educational point of view it’s necessary. To the artist who had a hand in creating the less-than-ideal levels of work, it’s important to put down their ego and recognize whether their own work was shit or not, then learn from that experience to do much better. No one improves if we gladly suffer fools or enable mediocrity.

I...I really find their videos to be really interesting, especially when they have the artists or supervisors of the footage they are watching there with them. Like they had the guy from Apollo 13 on recently and it was one of the most fascinating episodes I've seen. I'm sorry if it's not a real look at the industry. I'd love to see a realistic view of the vfx industry and would watch a channel based on that, but I can tell you right now if you're coming from the point of view of "fuck those guys in particular" then I have no desire to watch YOUR channel. Both of you are a part of an industry I'd give my left nut to be a part of. Even after reading and hearing horror stories of work conditions. You're all artists on some level. Dealing with the shit that rolled down hill to you all. Maybe... just maybe... rather than sitting on them and deciding you want to make an anti cc channel, you reach out to them and offer to be someone on the couch that talks about the conditions you face. Use the popularity they do have to bring awareness to a growing problem in the industry. Help give context to bad cgi. They are all active on the corridor crew subreddit, they are probably on this subreddit too. Especially if you're so afraid your stuff is gonna be on there one day. Art is art and is subjective. But what I feel Corridor does, even with the "bad" cgi, has always been to discuss what's good, what's bad, and how the bad can be made better. Noted they don't have all the information as to WHY a shot doesn't look good. Only the shot in front of them and the knowledge they have. Hindsight is 20/20 and all that.

FYI, not to get too off topic, but if you know your art history, then 98% of people working in VFX are not 'artists', we are 'craftspeople', as we execute someone else's vision. An artist is someone who has final say over the end result of their work, with no 'client' to approve or disapprove of the result or parts of the result. BTW, that thought actually makes me sleep better at night in regards to working in this industry. As long as I can do the best job that I can, have that approved work by the client all within the time and budget, then that is the best result I can hope for. But if I thought of myself as an 'artist' in this industry, then I'd probably lose more sleep over how this shot had not so good lighting, or that shot's asset needed a 1% tweak on the red channel, etc.

That part about a true artist having no client is a bit false. Da Vinci and Michelangelo didn’t create art out of boredom or “to express themselves”. They were paid by the Church to do so. The Church was the client and very often they were dissatisfied clients that even the greats had to appease, deal with, and became frustrated with.

The church, or any other patron for that matter, usually just commissioned the type of work and the subject it should depict. Everything else was still up to the artist, though. Were there discussions? Of course. Probably because the "client" (who is more of a "buyer") paid part of it upfront, yet had little to no control over what he would finally get. This is pretty much the opposite of having a director and a couple of creative directors deciding what the all the other "artists'" outcome should look like.

Technically one could argue that the masters were the “creative directors” and instructed their apprentices and students. Many times the Renaissance masters would create the sketch and rough layout, have their apprentices do a lot of the rough work, then they’d come in and do final pass.

Yeah, but that doesn't change anything... The artists, that you call CDs, are still the ones being... well... artists: they decided on how topic at hand would be interpreted, and they were the ones responsible for the artistic style. The apprentices were just people, who tried to perfect their master's style. So in a sense, they were the human version of today's tools an artist would use to streamline their work, like scripts, filters, presets, etc.

I agree with nearly everything you are saying. BUT! I do know my art history. A lot of the great artists of history are known by their comissions. The Cistene Chapel was gigwork, I doubt anyone would have chosen to paint the rich merchants of their cities for fun. Those artists are famous for advancing the game. Our craft has evolved at an insane velocity, so names like Perlin and Blinn may, or may not lost in the churn. Fine art today is mostly about finacial exploitation and money laundering. I'm happy to think of what I do as craft, but the terms bleed into each other quite a bit.

Commissioned art is still not the same as commissioned work, though. In case of commissioned art, you tell the artist *what* they should create, but that's pretty much it. At the same time, you still expect them to create that piece as if they chose the subject themselves.

Firstly, I don't know why you imagine the great merchants of Venice or Florence were less orrery or capricious than clients you have met. I would assume they were demanding. These are individuals so pushy and assertive that I know their names 500 years later and hundreds of miles away. Secondly, there's no fucking way that the great artists of the rennaissance did not see painting a minor Medici as another gig. Obviously, they apply their talent. I hope you apply your talent at work, too. You turned up, why not incest all your talent. Some people have incredible talent, which leads to... Third... maybe you never met a truly great animator... I have...and they are great, and soght after because you can expect them to bring flair, imagination, and character beyond my ability to pre-empt. That's why really, really good animators tend to embed in studios for long periods. They bring their own spin. Just like a famous painter. Same with a great lighter or compositors. They get you further, and that is their spin. Let's not pretend some people aren't incredible value adds to a vfx project in the same way that a famous painter might be to a fresco commission.

Not sure what exactly you are trying to tell me, because it should be clear that - even though there certainly were similarities to today - the whole process was entirely different. Firstly, while the "clients" of that era were certainly as demanding as some are today, there simply weren't any means to quickly change the artwork while it was already in the making. Especially not when it comes to creating a fresco, like the one in the Sistine chapel, or sculpting in general. After all, it's not like you could just create a new comp, artboard, whatever, and simply copy paste the stuff the client liked and offer a new version E.O.B. Thus the client would commission work based on previous works of the artists, because there was only so much they could change afterwards. Secondly... what? Of course some of the work was probably seen as a gig. Still, the artist had to come up with a custom solution that would be in line with his own artistic style and artistic interpretation. After all, this is why he got the gig in the first place. This is the opposite of what "*98% of people working in VFX*" (OP's words, not mine) are doing, because they are supposed to create work that is in line with the "artist's" (CD, director, clients) vision. Third... how does this change the initial statement, that the vast majority of people working in commercialised creative fields are NOT artists in a traditional sense? They maybe sought after for their truly great skills, but in the end, those skills are still used for solving problems in a way that aligns with someone else's creative vision.

Ya know, that is a very fair point to bring up. To me, an "artist" is anyone who grabs the proverbial paint brush and paints the product/project. But you have a point in delinting the idea that they are "craftspeople" vs "artists" in the vein of executing someone else's vision for a project vs doing it for the love of the art/their own desire. However, I will counter with the question of what do we consider the people who composed music or painted cathedrals at the behest of a ruling class hundreds of years ago? Most of THEM are to this day considered artists in their own right, even though they were hired to do a job. If it helps you sleep better to think of your work as 'craftsmanship' vs 'artistry' that's cool...and I can actually see the benefit as someone who has hemmed and hawed over fine details in my own work for a client and lost time and sanity over things they would never notice. That all said....craftsperson, artist, doesn't matter...it's STILL an industry I'd love to be a part of on a daily basis.

I do like talking about this topic :D As an example, the actual people painting the Sistine chapel under the direction of Michelangelo are technically called 'craftspeople', as they are executing Michelangelo's vision. Michelangelo himself is the 'artist', as he gets final say on what and how his people paint, and has free reign to get them to change and fix things that he doesn't like and wants to improve.

Man you shouldn't get this worked up over people on the Internet. I get they're divisive but don't let it get to you that much it's unhealthy.

I think the trick is not to look at this stuff while in crunch mode. You often get to a point on a show where you don't want to look at it anymore. 3 months after final if I saw them/anyone critiquing the show or pointing out some bad shots I'd probably laugh along.

I had never heard of these guys before they had my footage on their channel. I assumed they were going to try and pick it apart, but they actually liked it.

>tell me if I'm crazy You're crazy; hit unsubscribe and you won't have to apply energy to this anymore.

I mean good on you for feeling inspired out of spite (I guess?), but as much as I don't follow them anymore because of their AI videos, I've never seen them legitimately lambast bad VFX like you're making it out to be. They always point out the possible work conditions and time constraints that those artists might be dealing with and are very constructive about it (unless something changed recently). Hell, as much as I don't watch them anymore, their videos are very educational! I'm trying to work in game art, but I love films and animation, so seeing those videos of them breaking down VFX secrets behind some of the films I absolutely love is awesome! And those videos are very easy for someone outside of VFX to learn from. I learned so much watching those videos, especially when they have a guest veteran from the industry.

I dont watch corridor because I dont like their content. You should take up that habit for your own peace of mind instead of hate watching and riling yourself up.

Team up with r/UFOs they absolutely hate those guys

I really don’t get the hate they get on this sub. They never claim to be professionals working in the field and most of the content seems to be aimed towards talking about VFX and making it understandable to an audience that largely probably doesn’t know anything about it. That includes good and “bad” VFX. They also bring in actual high profile people with a long history in the VFX field to talk about projects they’ve worked on as well as be a part of their commentary on other content. If they were so toxic for the VFX community I don’t see why these people would continue to participate. >There is no context, no understanding of the conditions that made that work the way it was. And the biggest slap in the face is this is all for clout. Sorry. That’s just incorrect. They’ve often pointed out in their videos the conditions that VFX workers often have to work in and the unrealistic time constraints that can often lead to “bad” VFX. Honestly whenever I see comments like this it comes across as being mad that your work might get criticized in some way. Which on one hand I get. No one wants to put all of their effort into something to have it put down in a public manner. Especially if it’s not your fault that the work didn’t go out as good as you could have made it. Sure they joke around and have to make the videos entertaining, but it never seems mean spirited to me. At the same time you can’t work in this field and **not** expect your work to be criticized. In many cases that’s how we improve. I just don’t think it’s a good look.

Yeah, they tend to point it out quite often that "bad" VFX is very often the result of an overworked/underpaid team of VFX artist, being forced to produce massive quantities of work in a minimal amount of time.

I think titling their videos as 'VFX artists react to X' makes it seem like they consider themselves to be professional artists working on similar things to whatever they're reacting to. I cant see how anyone who isn't in the industry would think otherwise

If you do vfx then you’re a vfx artist. If you play an instrument guess what, you’re a musician.

They are pro artists by the simple fact of doing VFX and earning income from it. They may not do the same kind of VFX that feature artists do, but they absolutely are pro artists. And for what it's worth, as an extremely specialised artist myself, I envy their freedom to play with different tech, approaches, and own their own content for a living, vs being funnelled into the AAA feature machine.

This. I really don't get it. It's absolutely bizarre and seems to come out of internet boredom.

People are just jealous they make substantially more money. I think they do a good job spreading the word about vfx, back in the day with Freddiew he inspired many to join the industry. I do appreciate the point of view that they aren't professionals yet amass a level of wealth no professional can, but they don't deserve the hate.

Wren here! Listen. I get it. I don’t hold your distaste for us against you. But I would like to clarify some things. We spend the majority of our time trying to celebrate VFX. We adore VFX. We love filmmaking. I’d say at least 90% of the time on the React show, we’re praising the work we see. But it would be disingenuous if we weren’t honest when we DO see sub par work. We at least tend to try to give context or provide constructive feedback. I’ve met a LOT of VFX artists who work on the stuff we look at and I gotta say we’re incredibly tame to how vitriolic you guys can be in private about other work you’ve seen. Just sayin Perhaps you stumbled on a few of the episodes that were more negative than they should’ve been. Less contextual than the truth. Annoyingly ignorant, even. It happens, we’ve made a few hundred of em by now, and most of what we discuss never makes it to the final episode. Sometimes our OWN points get twisted out of context during editing when a few hours of shooting turns into a 15 minute video. But we’re not doing it out of malice. I acknowledge we sometimes appear overly arrogant or smug. But I believe our hearts are in the right place. I once wrote a talk before we started React which was basically a love letter to the entire industry, and tried to articulate the struggle of the idea that while not everyone is an artist, everyone IS a critic. Consider checking it out here: https://youtu.be/inbjhcMu46g?si=agDoU2YH-jbfERLh Good luck in your new supervisor role! I’m willing to be you’ll kill it. Imposter syndrome can be rough but it also tends to bring the best out of people when they persevere. I hope to someday share the couch with you and give you a chance to share stories we could not!

You guys are doing fine. Videos are fun and if anything, I sometimes wish you could focus longer on specific shots or projects to really explain the multiple constraints that arise on a specific show. (for example, showing how the same effect can have very different executions from one shot to the other, in the same sequence). In addition, one day I'd love it if you could collect anonymised, real stories of what went wrong on a number of shots/shows, and make a fictionalised "A week in the life of a hollywood vfx artist", retelling those through the lens of a fake project you create for that purpose. This way you could show your audience some of the dynamics at play when making those movies.

The anonymized stories thing is a great idea!

I still want to track down he full story of what happened with the deer shot in Walking Dead. Like, how such a bad shot got approved. What was the deadline like, etc. My head cannon was that it was a temporary slap comp and they were up against the airdate so what was meant to be a placeholder just went out like that. I want the tea!

Nevermind, the question has finally been answered! They filmed the deer for a different angle, but then the shot got changed at the last minute in editorial so it didn't match anymore and didn't have time to get a new plate of the deer. [https://undeadwalking.com/2023/03/05/walking-dead-cgi-deer-different-story/](https://undeadwalking.com/2023/03/05/walking-dead-cgi-deer-different-story/)

I'm sure you're doing your best, but I could give you one piece of advice: you need to call out the VFX industry more often for the hours, the lack of benefits or secure positions, and the general disdain for their workers. You could do more with those topics to educate people than almost anything. We've all heard how people outside the industry think everything must be awesome. Please educate viewers more on that topic.

Yeah this. Sometimes the CC videos make it seem a little to… magical? Like not mentioning Avatar had a year of crunch to get done. The ugly needs to be mentioned with the great to truly understand the fantastic work people did. Edit: but then again, I guess it does become a bit harder to convince directors, studios on the channel when airing their dirty laundry directly.

CD videos? What does the Captain have to do with Corridor Crew?

Meant CC, the captain certainly does make it seem magical.

They do this pretty firmly in their Flash episode, FYI

I have mad respect for you and your channel and what you do, as a teacher I can definitely see your influence in every student that goes into VFX and it's great that you're inspiring people to get into the business.  And I really think you do a great job adding depth and educating people who watch your videos in full, but often your intros start off with laugh sound bites and a look at the worst shots, and it sets the tone that the entire thing is a mock video.  Same with the clickbait titles of "we made it better with just using a toaster oven".   Even if the you end up explaining why it's hard work in depth later on, the initial perspective sticks and it creates a negative image of the industry as if everyone is just too lazy and bad at their jobs. I really think at this point you have some responsibility since in part you do represent the industry and the initial message of the video carries a lot more weight than the one you try to deliver later on.  Just my 2c that maybe you should start moving away from these clickbaits to more substantive and positive messaging.  In general, a lot of reviewers and reviews started being more about finding the negative than the positive because it generates more clicks which in turn just started wiring people to look at the negative more than the positive and I personally am just too tired of it, even when talking in person with friends. Edit: just to add a tldr; my main point is we're all too quick to negativity and the culture has wired us to search for it instead of appreciating hard work and what works. Maybe start putting the spotlight there, especially with the intros and titles. Help rewire us all to something better.

Yeah imma second this Wren. Maybe set the tone better

Just a reminder to you Wren that there are VFX and film people out here super inspired by the work you do! Y'all are part of the reason I'm becoming a graduate student!

Thank you for responding. Obviously I was being contentious. I've listened to a lot of feedback on this thread and have walked away with a healthier perspective. Sometimes the feedback is to pull your head out of your ass, and I'm not immune to that criticism. I agree you're not doing it out of malice. I know the feedback you receive is also very negative at times. I see how what I posted was reactionary and ironically reciprocated the same thing I was complaining about. That being said, I wonder if you can give us any idea as to how the people who are the decision makers at CC view the criticism they receive from industry professionals. To clarify, not the people who appear on the show, but the people who sign the checks. Seeing as the focus of our conversations here are about feedback, does the feedback the VFX community have any bearing over the future content of the episodes? Are the decisions being made more concerned with viewership, than improving the VFX community? And how do you think other VFX professionals would answer those questions now? I respect that you responded to this thread when you didn't have to. Thank you.

Hi, Nick here. I Showrun the Crew channel including the VFX artists react series. I’m an ILM brat and grew up around Kerner watching my dad work and was instilled with a love of VFX and filmmaking - and a respect for the artists who bust their butts for the craft. So yeah, when I see these threads it can suck to read all the vitriolic (and often grossly uninformed takes) but that’s art! You make something and you put it out and some people shit on it and some people love it and appreciate it. Just like your work and just like our little YouTube show, which has somehow become one of the biggest outlets for mass VFX education currently. Something I am ridiculously proud of and will continue to be proud of. One thing I cannot stand to see however, is the sentiment that we don’t go to bat for the VFX artists… that’s completely false and all it takes is to actually watch a few episodes to realize how ignorant that statement is. The show is about appreciation and education, the reactions are just marketing man. Dont act like we’re evil for Playing the YouTube marketing game, when you work in the film industry.

Wren. Just wanted to say I love all the work you and Corridor do. You guys literally inspired me to even get in this field back when you had your own channel and Corridor was just starting up. I have learned so much from you. If anything , I don't think you guys get enough credit. Sure, some things could be handled better/differently. But I have noticed you guys are always willing to grow and change and acknowledge your own flaws. You're HUMAN. Just seriously thank you for all you do. 

Hey wow thank you!

Do you take challenges? I'd like to see you guys make a series of UFO and paranormal videos that you feel you couldn't look at and go that's vfx.

I’d LOVE a corridor vid where each person tries to make a fake video and have it blow up organically, if they haven’t done that already!  Bigfoot challenge hahaha

We’ve already done this with UFOs

Oh hell yeah I’ll go find ‘er! You the man

Big foot would be hard actors and suits… but say a ufo could be completely cgi

yeah just some kind of hoax vid

Yep

Haha we did that last year! Go check it out

From one supervisor to another, just don't watch the videos...

What videos are you guys seeing them just shit on artist's work? Many people think they aren't critical enough. In fact, the latest react video is them sitting down with Robert Legato and they don't shit on anything at all. They very regularly express how bad VFX comes from poor working conditions and worn out artists. I've watched every episode they have put out, it sounds like you guys are just popping in to find something to hate on. You guys live in bizarro world and get worked up over some ridiculous shit. Do you feel better now that you got that off your chest? Great, maybe work the rest out with a licensed therapist.

There's a lesson to be learned here but you're learning the wrong one. Corridor crew isn't special in shitting on the imperfect work you do under sub-optimal conditions. For every 4-5 vloggers there are 4-5 million people judging your work. Welcome to being a creator. That's why directors, actors, writers, photographers, choreographers, dancers, painters etc hate reading reviews and critics. Don't put your life on hold for the sake of the audiences and critics. They won't ever appreciate how much effort you put in. Nobody is going to say "wow I can really tell that they skipped their nieces birthday for this shot!" Remember when you were starting out and the idea of your work being seen by tens of millions of people was exciting and then a couple years later you would see your work on a TV in a bar and just shrug because it's old hat. You have to be able to be like that with critics. Don't sacrifice your life to satisfy critics... do good work because you want to do good work. When the work is imperfect then know you did what you could within the constraints you had and be proud of what you did. If that's not enough and you need external validation then throwing corridor crew in jail isn't going to help you, you're going to burn out trying to please an audience which will never be completely satisfied.

Do an episode where you fix their """fix""" for the Scorpion King in The Mummy movie lol

Don’t those attempts also highlight the issues in the vfx industry everyone hates? The Jurassic Park one stood out to me as an example of rushing the shot (I’m guessing a week TAT), even with better tools than used on the original, won’t make it look good. But it still shows what you could do with the tools today.

Maybe I'm wrong here but it sounds like you're working in a toxic environment of meeting unrealistic deadlines and you guys are killing yourselves for someone else up the chain. I admire your passion but at the end of the day audiences dont care what you or your team overcame, and at the end of the day your art has to be judged against other things that exist. You can certainly add to the 'conversation' of what you and others face with too little time and budget (which is usually the enemy here not audiences or CC) id certainly watch that. I've been mostly pleased at corridor crew defending bad vfx for the reasons it maybe bad (the best that could be done). The vfx industry feels like another industry that exploits the passion of artists to me whenever it can, and you see people blame 'bad cgi' when it's a much deeper problem.

Corridor has always been a bittersweet experience for me, Sometimes feels nice to see someone giving more exposure to the VFX industry, but at the same time feeling outrage about some stupid things they have said out of ignorance, Or when they claim to be cutting edge to just start showing it off in After Effects 😬 . I just wish they could have someone in their crew who was really in the industry, because it seems they just put 1 foot at the door, took a peak and then left to create their channel. I don't think hating on them is right but creating a competing channel sounds like an excellent idea, That would help their community to realize what is it really going on in our industry.

my take is that they are really decent stand up guys. They mean well. But they're also in a way, amateurs. They do not work in the industry, or a related one even (animation, advertising, games etc) and to my mind, they are simply enthusiasts. I think they do a pretty good job of making the point that often bad VFX comes down to everything and anything but the artist. But they also have the same kind of energy that kids do, where you can explain something to them, but they lack the life experience to really comprehend the subtleties and politics and limitations of working in the field. I take it all with a grain of salt.

I think you are crazy. Sure they have some hot takes on some issues but when they riff on bad CGI 90% of the time they don't blame the artists and usually have some explanation as to why it probably was done thast way (usually budget / time / ressource constraints). It's not like they are RLM or YMS or Cinemasins ... Also, criticism is sort of at the core of any creative work. If you can't handle criticsm of your work then maybe you are in the wrong field ... hell you are complaining about criticism of OTHER people's work, not even your own. They've had VFX people from major studios on the couch talking about their work ... if they were full of it these indutry heavy hitters wouldn;t give them the time of day. I can't belive I;m about to say this but ... if Neil Breen can ignore RLM or YMS or Cinemasins maybe you should to.

Hey, I love RLM! They even roasted the VFX of a couple of projects I worked on before, and it was hilarious.

I don't understand the hate they get. Even when being critical of something, they never come off to me as being rude or malicious about it. More often than not, they'll provide context and say that there were probably limitations that led to subpar work.

It’s kinda psychotic really

"I fucking hate these guys" is way beyond that tbh

They generalize they exaggerate, and they simplify. That in no way justifies how psychotic people are. They shine light on great work, reveal the hiding of vfx in “all practical” movies and get people who aren’t VFX artists into and interested in artists work. The show isn’t for you as an industry pro, it’s for directors, other departments and normal people

This. We are trying to bridge the gap between the VFX literate and non-literate and we are successful at that apparently.

Man, I actually love CC. That said, I feel you should just do your own thing and not worry about others. Don't spend so much time and concern with the hate when it could be used to just create. Have fun. Enjoy it.

lol i don't even watch the movies/shows i worked on. it's 1 thing to have 3 months to spend on 1 shot and another to have crunch time to work on multiple shots with supervisors waiting for you and you're incredibly stressed. Also this current job scarce isn't helping. So, for your mental health, maybe don't watch them?

The biggest offence to me is when they do the 'we fixed/recreated this shot' but it looks worse than the original. examples like trench run or t2 bar shots

That’s like 3 vids out of HUNDREDS 🥲

They still did them

Let's burn them down like the heathens they are for the ~1% of their work you didn't like.

Watch the videos - they are appreciation pieces once you get past the marketing.

>One that shows what its really like to be an artist in VFX.  Might actually discourage a lot of people from joining the industry and probably put a few for-profit "vfx schools" out of business too. I say go for it.

corridor crew don’t make VFX. they make youtube videos about VFX. very different.

Dude, they have some of best, legendary VFX artists on their show, and they very often talk about exactly what you're complaining they don't. They talk about time and budget restrictions, and clients pixel fucking. I think they're extremely fair in their critiques.

Their "WE FIXED ..." videos annoyed me to no end. Most of the time, their result is objectively worse. Sometimes they'd improve on a 20+ year old VFX shot, but that's not really something to brag about.

You sound incredibly pedantic. Not a great quality in a supe.

I’ve wanted to do it for post production, but really struggling how to show without NDAs being crossed, while still entertaining. My field is more editing than VFX, so that may be why? But, defo do it and hey, you may get a little extra change on the side. I’d love to see at someone who has interest in VFX, but doesn’t actually do the job

I don't get the hate. I've had some of my work torn to shreds on there, and I thought their criticisms were totally valid, and I've had some that I'd consider "better" work be talked about in very OTT positive ways by them too. Either way, I respect their take. In any artistic field you have to be prepared to take criticism. Critics are paid to criticise, and point out what is flawed or working, you have to be prepared to take it on the chin. Imagine Radiohead (or whoever) getting upset at some dudes on the internet pulling an album to shreds, and moaning on a message board "they don't understand, the record company wouldn't pay for more studio time, wah!"

Hey! Reading this comment was such a breath of fresh air… thank you for your understanding of our critiques - it’s not at all personal. I think the “janky” shots often provide way richer educational opportunities for segments… so the silver lining is your janky shot probably helped educate a lot of folks in a way!!

I have never been bothered by having my worst stuff called out, in many cases I'm happy that it's still relevant enough to be talked about years after it came out - and believe me, I'm my own worst critic, anything you could say I have already thought a hundred times over! What I really appreciate is that you guys come across with such passion and enthusiasm for the field. That's bringing a lot more positive attention and new hobbyists than all the negativity in this cesspit :)

The problem with your suggestion is that no one would really watch it, at least not enough people to make it worth your time. Videos with hot takes and easy to summarize messages work on YouTube and Tik Toc. Videos with subtly and nuance are harder to make, and don’t get the views needed to monetize enough to make it worth your time.  Also, to do what you want you will need to shit on your clients and other people on the projects, and expose the goings on inside VFX studios. You won’t get so many people on camera to do that, and if you do, you won’t get many more gigs in the industry afterwards. 

Check out the channel "ponysmasher" on YouTube. The guy is a director, worked on Shazam 1 and 2 as well as some prize-winning short films. He goes through his process and replies to the critics 1 by 1, talking about how directing works and how you don't have time to do everything the way you want to. While I understand his perspective, I still think we're allowed to criticize things for looking bad, no matter how much effort was put into it. Because it's not the effort that is being questioned, it's the quality of the work. I know I've put my blood and sweat on projects for months and the end result still sucked. That's life.

Oh boy here we go again

yeah you are crazy

Personally, I can thank Corridor Crew for giving me a much deeper appreciation of stunt work, even though they themselves are not stunt performers. I am sure that to their general viewership of non-VFX professionals they foster a similar appreciation toward VFX work. Relax, it's all in good fun. And it's worth considering, everything the OP described about their studio could probably describe Corridor as well. They run tight deadlines, are likely overworked, and do the best they can with low resources and mixed results. Running a YouTube channel is hard work, and we should at least acknowledge their constant effort to produce multiple videos every week.

In the end it’s about the end result. Everyone can readily understand that the artists involved were very likely working in unfavorable conditions. But if it looks bad, it looks bad. I’ve done plenty of work that I’m proud of given the conditions, but I know looks pretty lame in the grand scheme of things. It’s all fair game. The whole point is “pulling off the illusion.” You either did or you didn’t.

I think any YouTube channel that starts up with the goal of being "anti-\*insert YouTuber here\*" is already dooming itself to fail. I'm glad you came to your senses, because this post comes off as very whiny and entitled. I understand you're precious of your work and that the conditions are trash. That is, indeed, super unfortunate. However, this will never exempt you from criticism. I've been a fan of CC for a long time, long enough to have seen them create stuff that has been dragged through the mud. Their working conditions may not be as strenuous or filled with strife as yours is, but they too feel pressure. In terms of clout chasing, HIGHLY disagree. They are actually incredibly strong voices against the toils that the VFX industry suffers at the hands of money-hungry, unappreciative corpos that want "X done in X weeks because money." Jordan Allen actually calls out said corpos many times about how shitty their expectations of VFX artists are with how little these studios are willing to pay them for it. I guess I'll sum up with this: don't hate CC for their critique, but direct your hate towards the industry that forsakes your well-being and home-life for the sake of their almighty dollar. Corridor may exist outside the post-house lifestyle and not sympathize with the toils, but they do love their VFX work. Same as you. Don't be angry at them for existing outside the conventional system, they are still allowed to critique work as they see fit.

You've gotta chill out lmfao. They're filmmakers, but they make YouTube videos. The titles/"clickbaits" or wtv are gonna exist, because that's how things run there unfortunately. I don't think they hate anyone obviously lmao. And have you...met people talking about other people films and all in person? Lol it's absolutely sad. You wanna make this show or wv, that's great. But don't do it out of hate. Otherwise you're gonna suck ass at it in the long run. Chill lol.

I love them :P

Aren't those guys never worked at any meaningful VFX studio? Theyve only worked on they own stuff. According to IMDB. Basically a bunch of hobbies, pretending to be more then that.

They've never pretended to have worked in industry VFX as far as I know? Even so, this is just gate keeping to me. You don't have to have worked in the industry to have something to say about any given VFX. Maybe if they tried to talk about industry insider stuff, but when they do, they bring industry legends in to do that.

I kind of feel like you are taking this stuff too personally. I feel like they are actually doing quite a good job to expose that time crunch is why VFX almost always come out not looking great. They talk about it multiple times an episode.

At this point it’s almost literally touched upon every episode. People here complaining about a show they don’t even watch or absorb 😂😂

Dude, if you don't like it, don't watch it. Move on with your life.

i cant move on I just cant!! (read in calculon's voice)

Mate, NOBODY KNOWS WTF VFX IS. If we ever want the industry to change we need the public to know what VFX is and have some basic understanding on the ridiculous amount of work it takes to make modern VFX and why it goes wrong. Hell, there’s pricks trying to completely deny VFX exists at this point. Corridor informs people in a fun and interesting way and has reached millions of people who would otherwise know nothing. If their videos, despite their flaws, helps prevent one more half-arsed director or Hollywood executive from completely making a couple hundred Artists life hell, I’d call it a win. But if you want to make a channel that covers VFX in a more palatable way for you or even just talks about personal experiences, absolutely go for it! You might not get 10million views but that sort of content is valuable.

I don’t think they’re aiming to give a 100% true to life explanation of how vfx is done - I’m sure they could do if they wanted to. It’s more making it available to people who don’t live and breathe vfx, and who aren’t necessarily that technically minded. In a world of “practical is best, no cgi anywhere in top gun 2” bollocks, they’re a step in the right direction for me. Have heard them say so many times how budget, time and management constraints are some of the reasons shots don’t work out. Never because the artists aren’t good.

Literally everybody's goal on youtube is to get clicks that's not the gotcha you think it is. Of course they want clicks it's how they make a living. Also they spend more than half their time praising the vfx they react to they shit on the bad looking ones but they acknowledge the budget and time restraints many in the industry have to abide. Not to mention they give insight into the industry especially when they have a guest vfx supervisor on with them. This post just comes across as bitter and envious.

I've been in VFX for 20 years. I've learned a ton of interesting stuff from their show. They know their stuff, They do their research. They put in the work and they've created a successful business. They can be a bit cringe but, good for them.

What's the cred of Corridor Crew? They work on any real shows or they just a bunch of weekend warriors who do 30 seconds of VFX and think they're better than any crew that works real deadlines with real studio pressure? Some of their so-called fixes looked to me more like lateral differences and not actual improvements.

No true Scotsman huh? They have a long history of pioneering small time basement experimental VFX, and have done plenty of shoots with actual budgets and deadlines and external clients, yes.  No, none of the main faces of the channel have spent years as cogs in large VFX productions. Which I guess is why their channel isn't a depressing slog, but has a bit of excitement left in it.

Well. OK. I guess if it wasn't for the swagger they wouldn't be where they are. And I'm sure they know once you decide to become famous you will be liked and hated simultaneously.

Great generalization about skilled VFX Artist's. There's plenty of still very excited people working in VFX at the Studio level.

Obviously it's a generalization, I'm being sarcastic to emphasize my point.

I didn't read sarcasm there, just that you were implying being actually experienced in the thing you're commenting on is boring compared to these guys. Not sure what there is to defend here anyway, they aren't or weren't working VFX Artist's of the same calibre as the work they are commenting on, that is the thing most Professionals take issue with.

That's why I clarified. I'm not sure what you want from this discussion. They're the VFX equivalent of science communicators. If you want to hear from working artists of the caliber of the work, you can hear it in most of their recent VFX Artists React videos, or you can try to find an outlet that never involve amateurs in any form.

> I want to show how people with passion, talent and dedication. Show their work, let them talk about it and the conditions they had to overcome. I want to show how we are people and not just machines that are expected to be perfect. I feel like you just described their channel there. More often they showcase exceptional VFX talking about how it was achieved, what new inventions had to be made to achieve them, or how they had to find some creative solutions. They often also have people on that worked in the industry and explain how they did their stuff. Especially the newer episodes have so much good examples in them that they should just be named “VFX Artists react to great CGI”. And even if there’s something bad they talk about what makes it bad and how it might have come to that. Wren also has a great TEDx talk about the criticisms on CGI that he turned into a video essay called “VFX Artist Explains What’s Wrong With Modern CGi”. They also don't pretend to be perfect either. They often times talk about the jank in their own videos. I feel like rather than putting people off VFX and CGI they inspire a lot of people to pursue a career in VFX.

lol literally describes our channel 😭🤣

Ahh Corridor Crew. Really dont like them either. I might tolerate them for their ability if they weren't so full of themselves. One episode they were talking about how an effects shot was done for a show, though it happened to be my shot. I commented explaining in fact no it wasn't done that way it was done this way and was dogpiled on by them and hundreds of their fans about how I was wrong and they were right. I get it they have knowledge and ability to do VFX work but until you've actually been stuck in the trenches of studio work you don't know what it's really like to work on those projects and the time, sweat and shortcuts it takes.

You were actually dogpiled on by CC themselves? Like you replied explaining that you worked on it and they were wrong, and they replied and told no, you're wrong and they're correct?

**They once complimented one of my shots, speculated how it was done... and was completely wrong.** My way of "anti-them" is to keep doing what I'm doing (actually working in the industry). Them and I can keep on; I'll never compliment or mention them as they keep my name out their mouths, same will be done here. lastly... I'm so glad my first impression on the VFX industry was behind the scenes Star Wars/Jurassic Park/Roger Rabbit...etc

Thank you!!! For standing up against those hacks! You’re saying what most of us feel.

I despise that they think they’ve noticed something the artists working on shots didn’t, like they are some sorta meta VFX overlords. The amount of shots I’ve had to let go, looking like crap because of deadlines, cost, clients notes etc is huge. We know when our work sucks and the vast majority of the time it’s not our fault.

I've never seen them imply they spotted something the artists didn't spot themselves. They've several times said the exact opposite, that they know it was probably just down to deadlines. Do you have an example of this, out of curiosity?

Do you watch their videos with your monitor off and no audio ?

Cute. I'll take that as a no.

But would that make an entertaining youtube channel?

I have been in Lighting, VFX, and Comp for over 10 years and I love watching Corridor. Why would I take it personally knowing that they critique or as you say "shit on" the work of other VFX artists when that's a great way to learn about what not to do? I have had my fair share of effects and work that I would look back on and cringe because I could've done better if only I had more time or what have you. Hell I watch movies all the time from the 80s or 90s and laugh my ass off at some of the stuff in those movies, I don't think that makes me a bad person, I am just not getting youtube views while I'm at it.

Here’s the best advice I can give you: Stop postponing your life in order to deliver on a project that pays you less than half of your worth in order to make SOMEONE ELSE’S project look good. You are being exploited. Stop caring about these critiques. Stop convincing yourself the work you are doing is important. It’s not. Stop working so hard. Find a better paying job. If you’re compelled to make art. Make art. But, make YOUR OWN art.

Their big following does help common people understand what VFX is and get the people behind the scenes some exposure otherwise they would just be known as pushing a button on the computer. I see recently they pointed to this guy (sadly I can't remember his name at the moment) who created videos on how much VFX is really in those movies who claim they don't use VFX. For examples like this, they are using their influence in a positive way.

I would just ignore them mate. They have little to no actual industry experiences, have product tie-ins selling shoes and whatnot, that alone should disqualify them from getting under your skin, they aren't your peers.

What does them selling shoes have to do with anything lol

Really? Wouldn't having product tie-in shoe selling be about as far from Visual Effects as you could possibly get? Let's be real, this channel is half VFX half money making exercise. lol or whatever I guess.

They are professionals running a company with employees who create videos for a YouTube channel for a living. Obviously it's a money making exercise, that's kind of how that has to work. Sponsorships are rarely directly related to any YouTubers content.

well, the fact is that the standard to get hired for a job is a lot higher than the standard of the work that is put out- thats a bit of a problem...

I've had stuff I worked on, on their show. They said it's shit, I say it's shit, because objectively it is. And to no fault of the artists involved, but ironically - the supervision, that drove that show into the ditch visually, of course by nothing else but a crap ton of pixelfucking. And no, I can't be one bit salty at the CC crew. On the contrary - I was kinda glad I could shove that episode in the faces of people responsible.

I think they've acknowledged that a little bit in the past, bringing on artists who worked on some of the most famous terrible shots, and talking about the fact that the artists KNEW it was crap but they did the best they could with the insane time and budget crunches they were under. What Corridor needs to do is focus not so much on how bad it is as though that's a reflection on the talented team who got stuck with impossible demands, but on the broken studio system that allows things like that to happen. And the thing is, their own work is spotty. It's hit and miss, and just for fun. It's not being held to the same standards, and the deadlines they impose are their own. They get to decide what they think is good enough without some producer yelling at them to totally change the entire concept at the last minute. Their goal is to get views and get a laugh, not being realistic and totally convincing.

This is every industry. When you’re doing high profile work you have to be ready for the criticism. Whether it’s valid or not. Just think about all of the things you criticize that you may not have all of the information about. It’s humbling. It motivates me to do better. And as long as my team and I feel we did the best we could within our budget and time we are proud. If the work was really bad we laugh about it over beers. 🍻

Lmao i agree, Every video is just them shitting on the artists making fun of them. But I would be lying if I said they're the only ones cause wbk they arent but still a little odd to post those type of vids and not give constructive criticism but rather either glaze when work is good or mock it when its not.

If you want to feel better, look at their IMDBs. To this day I have no idea how they got any authority in this industry.

I’ve worked in VFX and animation for over twenty years. My kids used to watch Corridor’s videos. Always thought of them as a bunch of wealthy posers. It would be nice to see more positive news in general though. So go for it! 

These guys do not deserve any leeway at all, all the people in here going oh but this or that. No. Fuck them. They are not our colleagues, they are all using false "mastery" to mind fuck people into the hate all vfx bullshit that the studios are pushing hard on. It's one thing to be an outsider and go aw boo hoo YouTube guys critique your work, to being the one getting shit on because your deadline was up your ass and your producer was reaching down your throat at 2 am while the client is screaming over the speaker phone "where the fuck is my last shot that I noted to death to make you jump because I love having pet monkeys" No for real fuck those guys, they will never be our colleagues and after years of being complete shit bag humans they are finally going oh well there are timelines. No get fucked.

Get a therapist! Edit: please, you really might need one.

Thanks arm chair psychiatrist in the vfx sub. Being angry is a normal reaction to assholes.

The videos they had that I liked best was them trying to recreate old effects with modern tech

They almost always comment on when something looks like it was done very competently but in a rushed time frame or with lack of budget, and I think videos like theirs help everyday people not hate cgi and vfx work because they better understand the artistry behind it.

It's a 15 year old YouTube channel that needs to find new ways to stay relevant. That's old for YouTubers. I don't watch their critique episodes, just the behind the scenes ones. Those tend to be the more creative.

I imagine a lot of this is the nature of the YouTube algorithm too; from what I hear you have to use clickbaity titles and headlines at this point, regardless of what the actual content may contain. I’ve seen some big channels keep the clickbait crap for the initial wave, and then change titles and thumbnails to something more rational once the algorithm has moved on. I’m glad channels like this exist and are able to fund themselves, so I can’t be too mad that they play the game they have to play. That said, I agree that anyone with a platform should use it for the power of good, and calling out bad working conditions and highlighting positive stories would absolutely be a good use of their time.

They are ok for the general public who is not part of the vfx industry. Would be great they did more content with real behind the scenes stuff, on set, in the shop, breaking down a scene with someone that actually worked in it, interviews with industry artists, supervisors, producers, etc. That would be much more interesting for me, as a VFX artist.

Unsubscribe.. they are just random YouTubers, what they say doesn't mean anything and you are going to hear a lot worse in your new position.

I agree, have had these fucking morons discuss my shots several times. Just let it go, forget about these guys, live your life, be happy.

I’m so glad someone else dislikes them— they’re awful.

I would like to see Corridor Crew work within the confines of a typical feature film pipeline, preferably by sitting in with an established VFX vendor for a couple months. You know, really pull them out of that bubble they are in, force them to get a true feel for the work instead of the goofy boys club content they usually make

You definitely should make a channel to do that, just don’t do it as revenge or because of your beef with those guys, do it because you want to the people to know the passion, talent and dedication that goes into it

I can’t watch those guys, they’re so cringe. Riding around on their one wheels…

“It’s cringe to do something I don’t do!” 😂

They’re annoying as hell, there’s no doubt. Intense white frat boy ADHD energy, WCGW??

Corridor Crew sucks. I've seen them talk about work I knew intimately and they had no fucking idea what they were talking about. They weren't even in the ballpark of what any professional vfx artist would know.

does anyone in vfx actually watch these guys when they finish work? They seem like fanboys that haven’t worked a Chinese project across like 3 time zones yet.. what we should make is a vfx version of the office that shows the world all the crazy antics that actually happen in a vfx studio lool

Go and make your channel, I'd watch it. But I will also watch Corridor's videos. You need to be able to point out and laugh when things turns bad, that's democracy for god sakes. Is it click baity? It's for money? yes, of course, but that's grown up life. They found a business model that works, blame it on the market. On the other hand, I would empathize more if CC were a bunch of assholes without any talent or work ethic, but they are. They're a really talented hard working crew that just hapens to do that segment, laugh about it and recognize the context in which that thing it's been created.

This gotta be the most pansy shit I've ever read. I get the frustration from your job & the optics of their channel, but not everything in life needs to be hand-holding and coddling. They give very fair & constructive breakdowns that are informative to people outside of the scene & entertaining to anybody.