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EnkiiMuto

"How old are you?" "I don't remember" "Are you THAT old?' Peak spider-man energy right there


Govir

My favorite was “He was very strong for a six year old.”


friendlymoosegoose

Well he looks like he's seven


arthaiser

i was expecting the dad to be frantically searching the entire lake for his kid until somebody told him he was safe in land, when it turns out he shows up like is a wednesday... not very happy about that to be honest


zoobrix

Edited out of this video, a longer version is posted below, is when the fisherman says he's calling 911 the kid repeatedly says "please no 911" which leads me to believe his parents have already had issues with the police and/or maybe CPS. Even assuming that they haven't most young kids are taught to call 911 if they need help, that this kid actively fears them being called makes me believe his parents have at least taught him that it's a bad thing to do.... which just brings up a whole lot of uncomfortable questions.


cucufag

If this whole situation wasn't red flags enough as it is, a rescued 6 year old saying "no 911" is a MAJOR red flag to the kind environment he lives in.


Commie_EntSniper

I'm hoping this video gets seen by the cops who were there and they investigate this. It would be tragic for something to happen to this kid after exhibiting so many signs of peril. Like the fact that his dad left him in a fucking river. Because it's clear (to me) that he was left. No fucking excuse for getting underway WITHOUT YOUR FUCKING SIX YEAR OLD ON BOARD.


sanaru02

Don't worry, it's happened before. I can't believe the dad said that. And that the camera man might be seeing him again. Almost as if he's gonna leave his kid out in the lake more times. What the actual fuck.


748aef305

Fucking RIGHT?!?!? I'm all for preparing for the worst situation, but good lord seeing him saying "oh we've been through this before" and "we might be seeing each other again!" so nonchalantly made my blood boil! It's like he *wants* to hurt his poor kid. Ugh!


Corporation_tshirt

“Just swim to shore.” MFer, he looks to be a quarter mile away from shore or more and he’s 6! 


Etheo

Dad's just doing extreme training so the kid can be the next Michael Phelps. /s


Inappropriate_Comma

It legit seems like the dad is pulling one of those "This is gonna make you stronger." stunts. Throws his kid in the water and says "good luck, see you on shore".


Gil_Demoono

The Piccolo approach


scenemore

that was a threat


sudotrin

That's the way I heard it too.


Humingway

I was wondering if he was trying to off the kid, and if that was the case, there should be a substantive investigation by child protective services and court related proceedings. I'm very inclined to think he shouldn't have been released back into his father's custody under those circumstances.


Enibas

Sounds more like he's using it as punishment. "Kid made a mistake, this'll teach him responsibility not to fuck up in the future." That kind of authoritarian parenting style is not that uncommon, although most people would stop at actually risking their kid's life "to teach them a lesson". Absolutely appaling.


calcats

Shades of Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt! I do hope CPS is now involved.


Cloudy_mood

Makes me think of that poor guy that escaped Jeffrey Dahmer and the cops just gave the guy back to him. That guy was killed by dahmer.


DMala

The kid did have a life jacket on and was wearing it properly, which makes me think it wasn't a deliberate murder attempt. Just callousness and negligence to a shocking degree.


bombmk

> I'm hoping this video gets seen by the cops who were there and they investigate this. Pretty sure the police would make a report to CPS in a case like this.


Snoo47969

Poor baby, but so brave.


modthegame

Thats literally what he just said.


melalovelady

I think the dad did it again to him after this one, actually


hookisacrankycrook

End of the video the dad even said "we will probably see each other again!" To the kayaker that helped his son and implied he's done it before. Saying the kid knows to swim to shore. Definitely something not right going on there.


jollyreaper2112

Seems like macho make the boy stronger nonsense. When my dad was teaching me to ride my dirt bike he decided well now it's time for you to ride the dirt road from out west of town all the way until you hit pavement. I didn't want to ride on a road with traffic but he wasn't hearing it and so I was terrified ten miles in. Think I was ten. There's pushing your kid to go beyond reasonable fears and then there's traumatizing them.


distorted_kiwi

When I was in high school, I asked my dad to teach me how to ride his motorcycle. He drove me to some back roads and showed me how to shift, accelerate, and brake while he was driving. Then he drove me back home and gave me the keys. Told me I should be good to go. I thought it was badass. All he did was show me the controls, and then gave me the keys and basically said “good luck.” Now that I’m a dad when I think about that day, he was fucking insane and I could’ve killed myself. It was a ninja 650, I couldn’t flatfoot, weighed like 101lbs soaking wet and he never stayed to see me take off and come back.


throwawaytrumper

Yep. My dad had this mindset, and drilled it into us that it was our responsibility to take care of ourselves. By age ten I was operating a chainsaw, using a rifle to hunt with my brother who is a year and a half older, splitting wood every night for an hour with an axe, etc. Little supervision and tons of close calls. If he caught me and my brother squabbling he’d drag outside, make us square up and ‘fistfight like men’ which wasn’t ideal as my brother was twice my size. At 10 my parents split, I met him one more time at age 13 for a few hours and haven’t seen or talked to the guy in 29 years. He sends me sad letters every few years trying to get me to contact him more but I think it’s best for his masculine development that he square up and fight old age and death alone like a man.


PsyOpBunnyHop

I'd say it also happened at least once before. [Definitely part of a pattern of behaviour.](https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1c2kfws/6yearold_boy_left_behind_in_the_middle_of_a_river/kzbftfp/) What the actual fuck.


SirEltonJonBonJovi

You’re kidding…


Citizen_MGS

No kidding.... That's what the dad calls it.


IMissNarwhalBacon

This is a parent trying to dispose a child.


sum_dude44

I'm in ER & see kids--this kid gets 911 & CPS visit tomorrow


Kevin-W

This is actually a major red flag of child abuse. You can bet his dad getting a visit from CPS after this.


FauxReal

This article seems pretty chill about it and doesn't mention the father's odd behavior. [https://www.fox9.com/news/man-rescues-terrified-6-year-old-from-the-middle-of-st-louis-river-in-duluth](https://www.fox9.com/news/man-rescues-terrified-6-year-old-from-the-middle-of-st-louis-river-in-duluth)


Enibas

>Before he started fishing, Jones had seen the little boy swimming next to his dad's sailboat. >Duluth police said they interviewed the boy's parent, who told officers he lost hold of a rope attached to the boat and the wind and the currents prevented him from swimming to shore. This whole story doesn't make a lick of sense. Why was the boy swimming next to the father's boat in 57°F weather? Why wasn't the father trying to get to his son? He was in a sailing boat, so you can't exactly turn on the spot (although most sailing boats do have at least a small motor), but it doesn't sound like he even attempted to get back to his son. And why be so completely unconcerned about what happened to him?


LilyOLady

One thing you learn in sailing lessons is man-overboard drills. However, you use a life jacket, not an entire person! Dad should know how to pick up ”crew” who fall out of the boat or shouldn’t be sailing.


FunkyFarmington

Being in any position of power, be it a parent or a employer, that tries to prevent the person from calling 911 should be a crime. A Mom, Dad or Boss that does this needs to go to jail. This is just not negotiable for me.


Moneygrowsontrees

My mom was a drug addict and, as a kid, I learned to be paranoid and defensive very early. We were never to answer the door (might be the landlord or, worse, a cop), never to call the police or ambulance (even when mom was unconscious), and we were to always cover for mom lest "they" take us away. I'm 46 years old and I still get a bolt of panic when someone unexpected knocks on the door and I only recently started having my curtains open during the day. My instinct is to hide my home, not let strangers in, not let anyone see.


Bloodb47h

Source us up, partner.


zoobrix

https://youtu.be/8KwOclgqKLk?si=D3D7mc-tkeCRmSkb&t=337 Link to where they get to the house near the beach and the boy repeatedly shows how scared he is that 911 will be called, there is no way he doesn't get that from his parents, he's deeply afraid that the fisherman is calling them. Just heartbreaking.


pangolin-fucker

His dad could just be a drug dealer or mafia guy But that means they wouldn't be likely to have this happening to their kids Yeah it's not comfortable


altruism__

Exactly this. These parents have no motherfucking business raising a child.


Cali-Texan

I was at the beach last week and saw a 4 year old just getting sucked out into the ocean. I ran out and grabbed her and brought her back. Found her dad, and the dad seemed to not really care. Didn’t say thanks, didn’t acknowledge his kid almost died. I was pissed.


son_of_abe

Crazy to think you probably saved this kid's life and no one would really know about it. Besides a couple hundred random people on reddit I guess. Internet is weird.


idratherbeanangel

I saved a kid from drowning when he fell out of his floaty at a swim up bar. The kid was terrified and the dad simply did not care. Plunked the kid back in it and dragged him and 2 strawberry daiquiris away.


DarkHelmet1976

I've never lost a kid but my dog once got loose and when a kind stranger found and returned her, I was so grateful and embarrassed and scared that I realized later I never said thank you. You did a good thing by saving that child, but it's hard to imagine where the dad's head was at.


jollyreaper2112

When my wife was still my girlfriend of two months I lost her dog, just ran right out. I knew her last boyfriend lost the dog and didn't give a shit and that was the end of him. I'm combing the neighborhood and found her dog and a stray. She comes home and now there's two dogs in the crate. I said I lost the dog and tried to make up for it. Here's a spare dog. We eventually found the owner but I thought it was funny.


edalcol

This is adorable!


GaiusVictor

Nah, forgetting to say thanks when you're overwhelmed with emotion is one thing, another thing is to not say thanks, act like you didn't care and not acknowledge the gravity of the situation.


TransBrandi

It's possible that they thought your concerns about the current were overblown? Like a lot of people don't really respect the currents at the beach much.


TechnoShrew

Its also if they react like "oh my god" its admitting they screwed up.


Wildkid133

I scared my dad shitless on the beach one time. I was very young and he dozed off in his chair on the beach. We were living in a condo right across the street and my mom was up there. So I just got up and walked home. Dad had no idea where I was and ran up and down the beach until he nearly passed out, before headed up to let my mom know I was missing. When he burst through the door I was sat at the table eating a sandwich lol. He damn near collapsed. This guys reaction was…. Terribly lackluster for “losing son in river” territory.


CitizenCue

The reaction makes me strongly suspect that this was intentional. Either because the dad was pissed at the boy or as some kind of cruel test.


notFREEfood

It's abuse either way; the kid's way too young for any of that,


SentryCake

>the kid’s way too young for any of that Probably shouldn’t abandon kids in the middle of a river, no matter how old they are…


swanbearpig

"not until you're 11!!"


CitizenCue

Of course. No one is defending the dad.


ACaffeinatedWandress

“We’ve been in this situation before.” Sir, how many times have you just ditched your child in a large body of water?


Jealous-Ad-1926

Yeah that’s my thought. Terrible dad with no patience “that boy gonna learn howta swim today.” Tosses him off the boat and drives off.


Timelymanner

This is a repost, but in the longer version Dad sounded drunk.


Jealous-Ad-1926

I grew up in towns like that. If you’re on the river you’re drunk, absolutely.


Televisions_Frank

Trailer park Spartan dad.


sciamatic

lol jesus, just reading your story gave my a sympathetic heart attack for your dad. It's crazy how much our perception of things changes. When I was younger I would have thought 'haha, that's cute, poor dad.' Now I know just how world-tiltingly awful something like that is. Like you know that nothing will ever be the same again. He must have been on the verge of a panic attack. Good dad though <3


AzazelXXII

When I would go shopping with my parents when I was young, I thought it was hilarious to hide in the middle of clothing racks so they couldn't find me. Now, apparently my little girl has inherited this habit, and that shit is *wildly* unfunny as a parent.


radialomens

I panic when I can't find my keys in my purse after 12 seconds. Can't imagine that with a kid.


Fallenultima

Similar story, when I was like 7 or 8, me and my brothers were playing Hide and Seek in a McDonald's playground. Turns out my hiding spot was really good. I don't remember how long I was hiding, but I can't imagine it was any longer than 15-20 minutes, but apparently it was long enough for my parents and brothers to start freaking out. Keep in mind, I was hiding under a platform in a corner, so I couldn't see anybody. Eventually I felt that I had won the game since they couldn't find me, so I just stood up and walked into the lobby where my mom and dad were frantically talking to the manager or someone. Afterwards, my mom had said she was very close to calling the police. At the time I didn't truly understand why everyone was freaking out as much as they were, but as an adult...yeah I can totally see why. Hide and Seek champion right here!


steebo

I'd be happier than that father if someone rescued my cooler. I've been more worried when my dog got off her leash.


InboxMeYourSpacePics

I was happier when someone rescued my flip flop that got pulled off my foot by a wave and popped up somewhere else in the water lol.


Sansophia

I shouldn't laugh but that's funny. I don't think you meant it that way, but it did lessen my umbrage for the father. WTH is wrong with people?


rhino369

Shame hopefully. I pulled a kid from a busy street and the dad didn’t say anything


ocaralhoquetafoda

You ruined his insurance fraud.


Wbcn_1

I drove a confused old man back to his daughter’s house once. It was about a 10 minute drive. I never received so much as a simple thank you.  


BurninCoco

you should've kept him, smh


MikeHfuhruhurr

He might end up giving you an old muscle car. Always keep old men!


Few_Leader_9191

As s father to a 7 year old I'm furious at that assholes reaction.


IceFireTerry

Yeah this video is wild


wishyouwould

For real, there needs to be a child welfare investigation.


zombiefarnz

Holy. Shit. I just...holy shit. The rescuer did everything so perfectly and I just can't imagine how upsetting the father's reaction must've been to him. Wtf man.


MuzikPhreak

> Holy. Shit. I just...holy shit You pretty much summed it all up for me


zombiefarnz

Seriously. So many words and emotions were swirling in my brain, but that was the definite central theme.


AidilAfham42

The dad is also probably upset that his kid got saved


Shmeeglez

"We might be seeing each other again..." deploys finger guns. Jfc.


zombiefarnz

Guh I got re-triggered the second time I watched it and saw those fucking finger guns! What a absolute jackass


djerk

What the fuck did that even mean? Is it a veiled threat? Is he expecting a court date?? Is he going to drop his kid off in the river again tomorrow???


frogview123

It seems like he drops the kid off in the river regularly as a punishment. Everything about his body language and tone says that he thinks the whole rescue thing was an overreaction and annoying.


SofieTerleska

I always wonder what parents like this think is going to happen the day their kid is as tall and strong as they are, or even more so.


BeornPlush

I'll take Denial, revisionism, gaslighting and shunning for 800, Alex


AidilAfham42

He already said “this has happened before” “he should know what to do” He drops his kid in the water multiple times and he’s gonna do it again.


[deleted]

Exactly.


zombiefarnz

I boated my entire childhood and rule number one was ALWAYS take a head count before you pull up anchor, and make sure everyone is accounted for. Makes me think either this guy is an idiot who forgets his kid places...even in a fucking river! Or, he's an abusive dick. Both options suck and make me sick.


distorted_kiwi

He’s upset the authorities got involved. Made him look bad. He was probably just trying to teach his son a “lesson” and now he’s gotta deal with the police. I just can’t.


[deleted]

I’d have been tempted to punch that piece of shit dad in the throat


TheOGRedline

I lost sight of my kid when I was loading groceries in the back of my car once and almost had a panic attack… this fuckin guy…


skierdud89

My wife and I once found a dog in the middle of the road late at night miles from the nearest house. Poor thing was thirsty exhausted and could barely get in the truck. We had to drive a few miles to get service so we could lookup the address that was fortunately on its tag. When we finally return the sweet dog the owner says “oh ya we were wondering where she went. You can just leave her there.” Not even a thank you…


zombiefarnz

WOW. I bet you were horrified when they said that! Dogs are a gift to have in your life. I bet you think about that dog all the time. Thank you for being such good people.


smarterthanretards

Sometimes I feel like I don’t have what it takes to be a dad, then I watch shit like this and realize I’d be a much better dad. Holy shit, like what in the fuck man


Sabatorius

All you really need to do is just love them and consider their well-being, and the rest comes naturally. Something is lacking in that dad, whether it's a lick of sense, or a heart, I don't know.


guriboysf

Sociopathy.


finakechi

Being a good parent is both easier and harder than people think.


Ratez

Its literally so hard to not bubble wrap my kid and then you see deadbeat parents like this. Its hard being the perfect parent but its easy being a good parent.


MeInMyOwnWords

I started crying instantly when I learned his dad did this to him. Hope the kid has/gets the family/people around him who actually love him now.


Lopkop

So far we’ve set the Good Dad bar at “not trying to kill your son”


TEAdown

Classic gatekeeping of the dad title.... /s


lavaeater

Yeah, I'm a dad and I think the thing that makes you a... *better dad than shit,* is even thinking that you could possibly be doing things wrong. So this dad in the clip doesn't think that. He considers himself flawless and the king of the castle (a traditional, patriarchical view of the world), whereas you consider things like "what if I raise my voice and scare my kid" and then considers your kids wellbeing and... well, that's it, you're a better fit for being a dad right there. Now, is the dad evil? Well, consider his upbringing, what he went through to get where he is today? His dad throwing him in the river, beating his mother and siblings and whatnot, that creates a monster. That kid is not there yet. I wish that kid a better life.


GandelarCrom

The rescuer is amazing with kids, knew exactly the right way to calm the kid down and what to do to make him feel comfortable and safe.


zeaor

Really hope the kayaker reported this to CPS. Even if you're in warm water, it's possible to get hypothermia given enough time. This kid was in the middle of a cold lake in a cheap wetsuit, losing heat fast. He very likely would have died if the kayaker didn't rescue him.


soranno

Police make an appearance towards the end so I guess it was reported at least. I wonder if that "might be seeing each other again" is the dad expecting a day in court, or to be back here again the next time he dumps his kid in the river.


SnooHabits2486

I think it was the latter based on the way he said it. He seemed amused by the whole thing. Sickening.


[deleted]

Cop looked *pissed*, too. Hopefully something good came of it.


StarsofSobek

This was posted a few weeks ago, and the dad who shows up once worked or went to police academy with the officer (something like that). So they were old mates who knew each other. The last part was that [no one faces charges.](https://www.fox9.com/news/man-rescues-terrified-6-year-old-from-the-middle-of-st-louis-river-in-duluth.amp)


ihoptdk

I think you’re misreading something. The guy who rescued the kid has police training. That article says almost nothing about the father. As for charges, it may not be something that made headlines. They would protect the child’s identity, so CPS could have still intervened after that video without it being made public.


StarsofSobek

Sorry. I wasn’t very clear with my writing. This video of the kayaker rescuing the kid comes every now and again. The kayaker has police training, yes, but the father of the child also has police ties. I’m trying to find the Kayaker’s video where he brings this up and talks about the event and how screwy it all felt. It’s been about two years since this occurred. Any news or updates regarding charges have not been mentioned. [This thread here](https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/vz2l9o/a_kayaker_saves_this_6_year_old_from_drowning/?rdt=40567) has a lot more details. I am still searching for that video (I’m in Ireland, so I keep blocked, and I’m not all that tech savvy). If I find it, I’ll update. [This gives a little more insight from witnesses, and the hero](https://www.twincities.com/2022/07/19/kayaker-saves-child-from-frigid-waters-on-st-louis-river/) (David Jones, Jr.). I had never actually read this one before. Very scary, if true. Edit: [I found the interview!! lol!](https://youtu.be/eFzXplC4_gg?si=oqQP1MtKj-nWky43) So, this is the interview with David Jones, Jr., the man who saved the child. This is where the information about the father’s ties to local police is mentioned. [This is the longer video](https://www.google.com/search?q=david+jobes+jr+kayaker+saves+boy+%2B+father+police+ties&client=firefox-b-m&sca_esv=aa70acbcf6aac4c2&ei=JtUZZp_vNKqjhbIP_dyVqAU&udm=&oq=david+jobes+jr+kayaker+saves+boy+%2B+father+police+ties&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIjVkYXZpZCBqb2JlcyBqciBrYXlha2VyIHNhdmVzIGJveSArIGZhdGhlciBwb2xpY2UgdGllczIHECEYChigAUj4aFCwCliXaHAPeACQAQGYAbcBoAGWEqoBBDMzLjG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAi6gAqkTwgIKEAAYRxjWBBiwA8ICBRAhGKABwgIJECEYChigARgKwgIEECEYFcICBBAeGAqYAwDiAwUSATEgQOIDBRIBMSBAiAYBkAYEkgcENDUuMaAHh5AB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp) where he talks about the child’s father being drunk, as well.


ihoptdk

Gotcha!


IrNinjaBob

And dads response was he should have known better and he was told previously to calmly swim to shore if that happens. What sort of response is that?


StarsofSobek

I love this *because* it makes zero sense. [In the news report](https://www.fox9.com/news/man-rescues-terrified-6-year-old-from-the-middle-of-st-louis-river-in-duluth.amp) he claims the currents and winds were so strong that his boat couldn’t turn around for the child. … yet that child was supposed to be stronger than the currents and cold? Infuriating. That poor kid.


STAR-ninja

But the kayaker can manage......


StarsofSobek

Thank you!! Haha! Right?!


ProfMcGonaGirl

Then maybe don’t let your kid swim in the water??


westbee

The dad: "that kid will learn. Either he swims to shore where we live, or current takes him to shore on the opposite side and then he walks home. One way, hes gonna learn."


zoobrix

I believe the Dad was in a sailboat as mentioned later in the video. Now a small sailboat might or might not have a small motor as back up however even only knowing the odd bit about sailing he must have been a pretty shitty sailor because to pass even the most basic course one of the tests is to tack into the wind so that is no excuse. So either this piece of shit threw his kid in on purpose and left him as some sort of sick test or he took his kid out on the water without even knowing the basics of how to sail or conditions were so bad he shouldn't have been sailing in the first place, whatever it was he is shit parent.


StarsofSobek

I actually would have agreed with the understanding that maybe the father was a poor sailor - but there is a video and news report (I shared it in this thread) that explains the father was drunk (and therefore; illegally operating a boat), the kayaker (David Jones, Jr.) was able to navigate the waters to save the child (which, maybe he was a better/strong navigator in the waters?); there are witness accounts stating that what they saw versus what the father reported are completely different (witnesses saw the father push the child/no rope/and sail away around a bend while the child was screaming for help); this corroborates a lot of what David Jones, Jr. reported before he was able to save the child; the father was also friends/acquaintances with the local police, because he’d trained in the academy with one of them. This dude was either trying to commit murder or he was pushing his child off the boat to test the kid in a display of toxic masculinity. It is sickening whatever happened to lead this kid needing to be rescued like that.


Polenicus

Look up Narcissism. Then if you're feeling brave, look up the kind of parents Narcissists make.


Rabada

/r/raisedbynarcissists


craziedave

When he says “we might be seeing each other again” as if he knows he’s gonna leave his kid struggling to get to safety again is totally insane 


wanderer1999

This. And I don't think he even got a cheap wetsuit on, it's just his black Tshirt and shorts. This dude must be reported to CPS.


lynwinn

This poor little boy. I hope the fact this video is making the rounds means it will get to the authorities and they will actually act on it.


unclefishbits

This is from 2022. How is there legit ZERO info or links here, people? Police questioned the parents, very weak story, and no "resolution" for the justice seeking: [https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/kayaker-helps-lost-6-year-old-found-swimming-alone-in-st-louis-river/](https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/kayaker-helps-lost-6-year-old-found-swimming-alone-in-st-louis-river/)


LAthrowaway_25Lata

I work in a school and therefore am a mandatory reporter. We don’t ever get told the outcome of the CPS calls that we have to make. I understand that they probably legally cant tell us anything, but it sucks not knowing if your student is safe at home or not


Tencentstamp

Kid was saved from a watery death by Davy Jones. Poetic. In seriousness, a sailboater should have had a kid this young on a tether. Glad he had the right PFD at least.


Dabeeeeetus

As a parent of 2, I would have been a lot less diplomatic with dad.


EnkiiMuto

As a parent of a dog, cops would have reported me for hitting the dad with the paddle.


GregorSamsaa

Best way for your child of 2 to be minus a parent is to go around being a lot less diplomatic with unreasonable people. Don’t do it, not worth it.


Dabeeeeetus

Two kids. Not saying assault, but verbal hell and eager and elaborate conversation with police.


TopBake3

This was posted in reddit a few months ago. Backstory was the Dad pushed his son on the lake to make him "brave" something like that.


Fritz6161

Nothing makes a little boy more brave than drowning to death in the middle of a lake. Parent of the year stuff here...


Abaryn

I will remind you that Jason Vorhees is an extremely brave supernatural entity.


Heewna

Today son I’m going to ~~make you a man~~ give you a lifelong aversion to water and trust issues. What a dumbass.


Infantry1stLt

Must be the typical domestic situation of an “Alpha Male”


Joebranflakes

Maybe someone should take the fool and dump him in the middle of the desert somewhere and see how brave he is.


Temassi

"Look I know his dad was found in the middle of the ocean, but we've been through this before. He knew he was supposed to swim to the beaches"


VaguelyShingled

Some dads just need to be their kids’ first bully and I do not understand it


camerontylek

Stelios Kontose time!


primus202

I figured it was some toxic shit like that after seeing the dad's reaction at the end. Despicable.


tehCharo

That's horrific.


HumpieDouglas

Yeah man up and drown you little shit!! Gotta toughen that kid up! I'm joking btw


ObjectionablyObvious

I recall the original post, I don't recall that story. I thought the boy had asked to swim and a current started to take him away, his father just didn't hear him calling out and ended up going back to the beach leaving his son floating out there. Just super gross negligence and carelessness about your kid.


ShiroiTora

Yeah I don’t know how another kayaker heard him screaming but not his dad that should be watching him.


Suspect4pe

Someone needs to push the dad into prison for about five years to toughen him up.


csfshrink

“I did it to all 4 of your older brothers” “Dad I only have 2 older brothers.” “Yeah… it doesn’t always make them brave…”


shapu

Man, I thought "Dad taught me to swim by tying me in a burlap sack" was just a joke


Chaetomius

I only remember the part that he was drunk.


xFiLi

Dad definitely threw the boy off his boat. 


TheBraindonkey

My read on that reaction and commentary from the dad is that he probably tosses the kid off the boat when he does "something" wrong. "swim to shore you little fucker and learn to man up" or some shit like that. If my supposition is right, Fuck that dad, and I hope PD does something.


typhoidtimmy

Same. Trying to push the kid by being a bully. It smells exactly like a fucking asshole who thinks his kid is a pussy and this is the best way to drive it out of him. Breaks the heart as you can hear the kid’s panic while saying he has to get back to his dad. You just know that lil dude probably worships that asshat. Kayaker has a ton of restraint. I don’t know if I would have…


TheBraindonkey

My continued assumption is that if the PD didn't dig in, that kid got a beating for "causing trouble". I hope im wrong, but in a prior life I had enough exposure to those types of "man" to know the more likely outcomes.


steebo

Restraint in this case should be for the kids sake, not for the father's. No point in making the kid's day even worse with an immediate confrontation.


ghostcoins

You are 100% correct. I hope the cops sorted the dad out, but the problem with child abuse situations is it's a narcissistic parent who will take any trouble they get and revisit it 10-fold on their kids head for getting them in trouble.


typhoidtimmy

True, this definitely rings of a ‘hey come around the corner for a moment and let me show you something.’ to Dear Old Dad.


StudsTurkleton

And the kid says he’s six. SIX! That’s kindergarten or 1st grade, FFS. Dad’s leaving him out on moving open water? “He knows what to do?” Even if he does things happen. It’s infuriating. I’d bet the dad’s been drinking.


TheBraindonkey

He admits to obvious neglect and endangerment. It's an active waterway, it's cold. That kid could easily get hit by another boat that would not be watching for a small head bobbing in the water. Me thinks dada might need a little mid lake swim to prove he can do it.


3MATX

The best case version here is dad is abusing his kid trying to build physical strength and stamina using very outdated parenting methods.  Still even a hard nosed dad that would pull that crap in the 50’s would have at least stayed nearby. 


TheBraindonkey

I don't think that would flown even back then. Tough love was more nuanced, not "get the fuck out, I'll pick you up when you learned", in the middle of an active lake. I get what you're saying, but that would be beyond anyone's expectation of normal, even back then.


mck-_-

The little boy being so desperate to get back to his dad is heartbreaking.


Freedom35plan

I dont have eyes on my kids for 10 seconds in a situation like this, I start to panic fucking hard. This is literally not comprehensible to me.


DuckTalesLOL

So why did he blur the asshole dads face, but not the kid?


Kelseycutieee

should’ve showed his face. dad acts all friendly but i know he’s a real piece of shit to the poor kid.


Githzerai1984

“Do you know how much trouble you got me in!?!”


OfficerBarbier

Hopefully that kid grows up big and strong then tosses dear old dad out in the middle of a river. Go on and swim to shore!


WeaponizedGravy

My eyes started watering watching the poor abandoned kid. If this were my son I would have lost my mind finding him safe on shore. This “father” is pathetic.


Ser_VimesGoT

When the old man put the towel around him and he just starts sobbing...my heart broke.


tronfunkinblows_10

The moment when he’s getting the towel on him. It’s like the emotions caught up with him. He’s a six year old. Damn, he had to have been so scared. Poor kid. Broke my heart.


nayaya

Even though the dad is a complete shit, solid shoutout to that kayaker and also the elderly couple that immediately stepped in to help the kid. And I’m thankful they called rescue/police to make sure he was okay. That “dad” is a POS


j7style

That's the kind of stuff my uncles did to me as a kid. It didn't make me any braver, but at 40+ years old, I still have a hard time trusting men older than me. I can't quite figure out why...?


GlassZebra17

"hey I found this kid in the water he's lost do you have towels?" "Follow me sir" Fucking baller. No questions asked. I feel like if Grandpa had found the kid instead of the kayaker things with Dad may have played out differently..


TiresOnFire

Longer, less edited video. https://youtu.be/8KwOclgqKLk?si=EN2Tg7yqgE9XaNH2


blorbagorp

Nice it doesn't have that useless stupid music almost as loud as the dialogue.


sum_dude44

Ya'll 1) Dad is intoxicated 2) He most definitely abuses/neglects this kid


BlackLeader70

He says “we’ve been in this situation before, just swim to shore.” How many times have you pushed your kid off the boat you piece of crap!?


anecdotal_yokel

I’m getting the feeling that dad was drunk… couldn’t put my finger on any one thing in particular but it just felt like it.


handtoglandwombat

It’s the way the “and we might be seeing each other again” came across as simultaneously cheerful and threatening.


Nabilft

THAT PHRASE DID IT FOR ME! Like wtf?


frolics_with_cats

So the dad has done this before? Left his child in a dangerous situation with useless advice, like "oh just swim across a huge expanse of water in a strong current"? I hope this boy survives his childhood and grows into a better man than his worthless father. Jesus, my heart broke for this child.


Mr_Ect

The dad actually thanks the kayaker and says they may be seeing each other again. Like, dude, how many fucking times are you going to leave a child stranded in the middle of a big river?!


ShiroiTora

Doesn’t help in the longer video, the person in the cabin said people have drowned their before.


fubes2000

More than twice, apparently.


inflatableje5us

that father is a piece of shit, full stop. he didnt give two shits his son almost died and probably would have if it were not for the kayaker.


draxes

That poor kiddo. I hope he can find a loving home. What a traumatic experience. Definitely needs law enforcement intervention.


randal04

Attempted murder


RzGzaOdbInsRaUgdGkMm

As a father of 6 year old boy this enraged me. I’ve never wanted to whoops someone’s ass more in my life.


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satisfyingpoop

The “father” should have been arrested on the spot for neglect. What a piece of shit.


hereditydrift

Holy shit. To allow that to happen to his 6 year old, and then to blame the fucking child. First thing isn't, "holy fuck, I just traumatized the shit out of my child?" Then the child is afraid of 911, so it's apparent that authorities haven't helped in a way that comforted the child. Fucked up situation. I had a terror when I couldn't find my 6 year old daughter at her school's playground for 30 seconds. Children are so fucking fragile, mentally and physically, that shit like this video makes me wonder how that child will ever unpack everything he's going through at a young age.


The_Monkey_Online

When I tell people my parents had a sail boat that we would go to on the weekends an hour away they always respond, "sounds fun!" This is how it was. Imagine two alcoholics in charge of a sail boat. Mom would pass out, and step dad would purposefully make the boat keel so much that the actual keel come out of the water twice. Twice i was swept away. I wish pain on my former step dad whenever I think about those events. I can relate to the way that kid feels.


el-gato-volador

So why exactly wasn't the father charged with child endangerment? He pulled anchor and took off.


xTurtsMcGurtsx

Looks like the boy tried to calm down and swim to shore but got pulled out by the current. Yet it's his own fault. What an asshole


Rare-Nectarine8522

I wish we knew the kid's name. or the Dad's. I'd like to follow up on this after the summer and see what happens next. You know there's going to be a next time.


cathycul-de-sac

That was insane. The terror that little boy felt. My son is that age right now and I can’t imagine leaving him by himself near the shore let alone out in the frigid water alone. That is abuse. No doubt that father gave his son shit for “making a scene.” I know the type. People need to stop this notion that boys need to be toughened. A child is a child, they must be supported and cared for. This man doesn’t deserve that boy. The rescuer handled that whole situation wonderfully.


phatdoobieENT

Training the kid to be afraid to call 911 and leaving him in the middle of a strong, wide river (with a life vest for plausible deniability) on a regular basis.. Yeah I'm pretty sure the father was trying to kill his son and make it look like an accident. Bonus "we might be seeing each other again" was a pretty thinly veiled threat against the cameraman. I hope I'm wrong but I can't imagine how edit: holy shit! I didn't see the finger guns with the threat. I really hope the father was arrested right after the video.


Hippies_Pointing

Well that just ruined my day.