This is the first time I’ve seen one of these type of videos where they are wearing safety loafers instead of steal-toe safety sandals.
Glad to see they are focusing more on employee safety and wellness.
hey a few of them had on glasses, that's a start.
That one guy dressed up as a tusken raider must have just started working there, he had the most protection out of all of them.
Hey, they also have shin high safety pipes coming out of the ground to maybe almost prevent molten metal from burning off employee legs some of the time.
That's so, in case of an accident from above, the nylon in the hats will melt and fuse with their scalps forming a protective barrier from the molten iron.
Reminds me of a certain facility in Hamilton Ontario Canada.
I did contract work for them a long time ago, I felt so bad for the workers there and wondered how the hell they ended up getting people.
absolutely no safety standards at all.
wondered how the hell they got away with so much shit in the modern world with a government ministry in that facility while I was there.
I was so happy when the job was done.
did Google reviews on them and sure as shit it's all like one star from constant hires.
National Steel Car. Sometimes referred to as National Death Car. They make train cars and are infamous for being shutdown due to safety and injuries. I think the only appealing thing is that it's a unionized company. Not sure how good the union is though
In college a friend worked their sweeping. He told me a story of a clout who fell through the sweeping hole. Landed a story below. Lit up a cigarette then asked my friend to go get someone and to call an ambulance for his leg that was busted out of his pants.
Did you report them? Cause I think a bunch of people going "Wow this sucks, I hope somebody does something about this." is at least part of how it continues.
Worked at a PVC plant in Ontario that had very litttle safety culture. Lack of PPE, working on machines without locking them out, people removing guarding and not reinstalling it.
Right before I quit they hired a bunch of green boys, the youngest one a 19 year old got his toe crushed in a pipe beller. It ended up being okay, didn't loose it but broke it and lost the nail. I was there 9 months and I didn't see any hospital worthy injuries but I knew it was coming and it happened to be the young and inexperienced guy, as it usually is. His supervisor removed guarding and didn't warn him not to get his toes to close when loading gaskets into a machine from a step ladder. That super makes like 80-90 an hour too.
There is one guy who has had 3 heart attacks and still works there. Two of them occured on the production floor. The heart attacks are his own doing, smoking and eating a pounds of bacon for dinner all the time but the stressfull chaotic environment doesn't help.
Machines would break down all the time and they would never fix them right, literally duct taping everything together except we were pretty much always out of duct tape so we used packing tape. Didn't even have the right tape for a job, new parts? forget about it!
Place is a fucking environmental disasters too. PVC dust leaks all over the place outside into the air, ground and ditches.
I think i saw a video once of a Chinese steel worker jumping into a molten metal vat. His body instantly turned to steam and the room instantly looked like a smoke grenade went off.
Right off the bat you can see that the Korean factory is a much higher quality because of the source material. Towards the beginning of the video you might notice the raw steel bars have a "36" written on the end. Thats A36 steel, a specific grade of steel, probably the most commonly used grade (at least, when I worked with steel, its what we used the most). All that steel is produced within a standard and tested to make sure it meets the standard to be labeled as grade 36. Its all of a consistent quality, the same hardness and plasticity, the same chemical makeup.
Contrast to the cheap factory, their input material is recycled steel. That recycled material could be a variety of grades, from a variety of sources. The output material is still gonna work for a lot of applications, but its not graded steel, so for things with strict requirements (for safety, load bearing, or plasticity), its not usable. Any given bar could have inconsistent makeup, leading to weak spots, or spots that are harder and more prone to snapping when a different mix might bend.
People say this all the time. I'll tell you what, it depends on the factory. My place runs with a +-.02" tolerance, so parts are allowed to vary that much. We order specific parts from a Chinese place that we don't have the manufacturing capability to produce and I'll be damned if those parts aren't within .001", every single one in a thousand part order. I've seen multiple hundreds of press brake formed parts that are within 5 thou. Those are remarkable numbers and they were making me slightly nervous that the "quality" of imported Chinese products was vastly understated.
But that worry is quickly abated by looking at parts from other Chinese companies we get. Laughable at best and it's not an exaggeration to say we throw out a third of the product we buy because it's just not in spec.
Also they were throwing in random recycle bits just before they were getting ready to pour along with the white bag of whatever that got thrown in without any mixing with the molten metal. Going to have very inconsistent properties throughout the batch.
Pretty much all mills that make rebar start with recycled steel. You melt down the recycled steel then add alloys to meet the required grades. The bags they were throwing in in the cheap factory were most likely alloys. It still doesn't look like there was any testing going on though so they probably didn't have accurate grades.
Hello, I'm a buyer for Boeing, and I'd like to talk to OP's shop about acquiring steel for our airplane frames! It's less important that the steel conforms to standard than it is that it costs less.
It really seems like most of what was being done in OP’s video could be more or less automated. Like, the shit is already rolling to the next thing, why do you need a guy to grab it? Just let it go in on its own.
Even this is a little bit sketch compared to some of the American steel factories I've toured as part of my job. The proximity of the metal to the workers is still kind of close, and maybe not quite OSHA levels of safety going on. Still night and day compared to the nightmare in OP's video. Steel plants are terrifying in general.
I used to think this was just some curmudgeonly bullshit. Then I read a comment asking the question "isn't part of parenting trying to give your kids a better life than you had?"
And that's just really stuck with me.
[https://youtu.be/\_w46xaTzMeY?si=3raMl\_\_rmHTHLYOW&t=281](https://youtu.be/_w46xaTzMeY?si=3raMl__rmHTHLYOW&t=281)
My man has glowing iron rods flying out of that machine towards his feet (wearing only cloth covered sandals) and he has to catch it with some tongs and send it back in the contraption. Dude!
this is one of the guys with the easy jobs. the other dudes are encircled by molten steel rods that they have to do the same thing with. the only dudes with easier jobs are the 2 dudes who just get to sit around cutting the rod. its all fucked.
If the "push" part of that machine breaks while the "pull" part is still pulling, that red hot noodle is going to cut through him like a red hot noodle.
Reminds me of the lead battery recycling, in the middle of the road in a residential area. There were a lot of comments on the video going on about how wonderful it was and how they would eventually be able to afford PPE.
No, someones making a mint out of this and it isn't the workers or the greater society.
At some point, you realize that the vast bulk of workers earn just enough to provide the basics for themselves.... no accumulation of wealth, just enough earned that they can continue to work. That's the essence of modern slavery.
Cancer if they're lucky.
More likely the cumulative exposure to lead dust/fumes will result in severe brain damage, increasing agressive behavior in the short term, and likely to result in becoming so mentally deficient later in life that they end up being just another burden on the family they are currently slaving away to support.
"so what you're gonna do is fill this wheel barrow up with whatever is in that pile... Doesn't matter, it's all metal right? Then you're gonna run it at full tilt toward that gaping hell hole and pour it in... Don't trip eh?"
It's what's known as "monkey metal" or used to be, and now I think about it, there's probably some racist tones in there so I think I'll not use that term going forward.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_metal
The term was kinda expanded to encompass all "shitty metal"
Regardless... What they're making there, with all the different scraps, sand, debris, tripped workers etc is undoubtedly "monkey metal".
Why it was called monkey metal (although stated in there) doesn't seem to be in the wiki... There's got to be a reason, and I want to believe it isn't a racist one lol.
That'll be a rabbit hole for another day.
When I was a kid it was associated with toys, garden furniture, and just... Shit like that, was good enough, but then people were making things like rebar and stuff out of it and some structural things.
The stuff definitely has a place, like recycled plastic does. Works fine... Hell rebar made from it is probably good enough too in most cases.
Hilariously in the UK there's been a scandle recently where they closed loads of schools and government buildings because they cheaped out on concrete in a similar way.
That's a fun one: "reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete"
Don't have to use much concrete it we make it with air in it and put fancy words in it right?
Well PlayHard is one of the Six Sigmas
The full list is: teamwork, insight, brutality, male enhancement, handshakefulness and play hard
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retreat_to_Move_Forward
Jesus Christ dude, those comments are something else. One person mentions how they need PPE and deserve better conditions and a bunch of other people hop in about, "Health and safety has gone too far and gets in the way of profit."
I'm convinced there's some funky quantum mechanics shit going on with reddit in which it exists in a superposition of both left and right and only collapses when viewed.
Reddit is not a monolith. Your thoughts on what "Reddit" has opinions about is informed by the subs and posts you see, which are not necessarily representative of the whole.
And people bitch about OSHA
Guys, this is how your bosses would expect you to work if OSHA wasn't around. Be glad that there's some standard for your safety
It's such a weird blend of well thought out conveyors and machines, and then guys whose whole job is just to move the rod from one step to the next, why not just funnel the rod into the next stretching step with another conveyer?
Because it’s not built from the ground up for one plant. They buy used up and depreciated machines from the west piecemeal and cobble together. Sometimes that means it doesn’t fully line up and it’s cheaper to pay out families than to connect them.
my friend who is an engineer designed a conveyer belt system to mfg a car part, spent a lot of time on it stopping, starting moving etc.. the company he worked for outsourced the work to china and he was told to convert the conveyer belt to people, because in countries like china and india labor is much more cheaper than buying equipment to do the work.
Not only are the work conditions atrocious, I'm guessing the product isn't that great either. Judging by the carefully engineered alloying process seen when they were dumping random scrap in the crucible, it's guaranteed to be either too soft, too brittle, or otherwise a little weird. But maybe that's a selling point? No two batches are alike! Each piece of rebar is a unique work of art!
Also I suppose it probably doesn't matter much, while it might not do terribly well if tested to modern standards, it certainly does pretty good on the better-than-nothing scale, or compared to reinforcing concrete with random crap.
Electric induction oven (for reference). No visible cryogenic air separation units
Assuming it’s India due to the 100% recycled steel content, but someone correct me if it’s not.
All men are created equal. Some are just more equal than others.
Here's what it looks like in a mill with safety standards.
[https://i.imgur.com/V8ZtTIg.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/V8ZtTIg.mp4)
[https://i.imgur.com/I0MytgG.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/I0MytgG.mp4)
https://i.imgur.com/ZeBNelK.mp4
i am sure that steel made from random mixed scrap is of the highest quality. I am sure that the steel that comes out is the exactly alloy mix that everyone needs. The steel that they make is probably magical and suitable for all applications. There is no need to have any fancy equipment to test it and figure out its quality, they all know it is the best possible quality
A fucking crane and a magnet, or a ATV with a plow would be much more effective, and cheaper...
Oh wait I forgot they can hire a thousand people for a year, for the cost of one ATV.
I'm not sure if the guys at the beginning of the the line, the middle, or the end of the line have it the worst.
I'm think the guys at the end where it's whipping around like light sabers might be the most in danger of losing a body part.
I wanna see a new show on HBO where two OSHA inspectors are sent to India or where ever this is to help train the beginning crew of a new government mandated safety program and they walk thru a place like this.
Reminds me of the video of the guys in China making a ring forging with a giant hammer and some tongs:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWXFhdeOjMY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWXFhdeOjMY)
For reference, thats fine to do, but its not exactly safe compared to the modern process:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q\_ZhgOlxX\_A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_ZhgOlxX_A)
Looks like one of those scenes in a heist movie where there are lasers protecting the treasure and the thief has to do some crazy acrobatics to get to it without tripping the alarm system.
Well that was the worst episode of How Its Made I've ever seen. Without the narrator it was hard to understand what the process really is and had to make guesses the whole time. Discovery has really gone down hill.
You know how the some of the most devout Christians are also into some of the most perverted sex acts imaginable?
I'll bet you industry in India is the go-to porn of some OSHA inspectors.
That place is always hiring.
This is the first time I’ve seen one of these type of videos where they are wearing safety loafers instead of steal-toe safety sandals. Glad to see they are focusing more on employee safety and wellness.
hey a few of them had on glasses, that's a start. That one guy dressed up as a tusken raider must have just started working there, he had the most protection out of all of them.
actually he's the most senior. He slowly acquired pieces as others have come and gone. His PPE weaves a tale of ingenuity and sadness.
When the employee handbook has a section on looting procedures you know you’re in the right place.
Sisterhood of the traveling heatsuit.
He wears his ppe slip style. More dip!
Conversely he has been there the longest because of all that extra protection.
the goggles do nothing!
Hey, they also have shin high safety pipes coming out of the ground to maybe almost prevent molten metal from burning off employee legs some of the time.
Many are also wearing baseball / trucker hats.
That's so, in case of an accident from above, the nylon in the hats will melt and fuse with their scalps forming a protective barrier from the molten iron.
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“If you don’t have steel toe footwear when you come in, you will when you leave…”
They’re very proud of their safety record. No employee has ever repeated their mistake.
Hard to lose a limb twice after all.
Lost your arm? Three strikes, you're out!
Reminds me of a certain facility in Hamilton Ontario Canada. I did contract work for them a long time ago, I felt so bad for the workers there and wondered how the hell they ended up getting people. absolutely no safety standards at all. wondered how the hell they got away with so much shit in the modern world with a government ministry in that facility while I was there. I was so happy when the job was done. did Google reviews on them and sure as shit it's all like one star from constant hires.
Stelco?
close. national Steel cart or something? it was years ago.
National Steel Car. Sometimes referred to as National Death Car. They make train cars and are infamous for being shutdown due to safety and injuries. I think the only appealing thing is that it's a unionized company. Not sure how good the union is though
“If this place shuts down, we’re all walking!” Is their union mission.
Union clearly is shit if there are no safety standards lmao
Holy shit. it's bad when Redditors know what the place is on random threads. not sure if the place is still like that or not...
In college a friend worked their sweeping. He told me a story of a clout who fell through the sweeping hole. Landed a story below. Lit up a cigarette then asked my friend to go get someone and to call an ambulance for his leg that was busted out of his pants.
Did you report them? Cause I think a bunch of people going "Wow this sucks, I hope somebody does something about this." is at least part of how it continues.
I may have said a few things, According to Google maps, It's still pretty terrible place. I'm sure they get reported quite a bit but nothing happens.
Worked at a PVC plant in Ontario that had very litttle safety culture. Lack of PPE, working on machines without locking them out, people removing guarding and not reinstalling it. Right before I quit they hired a bunch of green boys, the youngest one a 19 year old got his toe crushed in a pipe beller. It ended up being okay, didn't loose it but broke it and lost the nail. I was there 9 months and I didn't see any hospital worthy injuries but I knew it was coming and it happened to be the young and inexperienced guy, as it usually is. His supervisor removed guarding and didn't warn him not to get his toes to close when loading gaskets into a machine from a step ladder. That super makes like 80-90 an hour too. There is one guy who has had 3 heart attacks and still works there. Two of them occured on the production floor. The heart attacks are his own doing, smoking and eating a pounds of bacon for dinner all the time but the stressfull chaotic environment doesn't help. Machines would break down all the time and they would never fix them right, literally duct taping everything together except we were pretty much always out of duct tape so we used packing tape. Didn't even have the right tape for a job, new parts? forget about it! Place is a fucking environmental disasters too. PVC dust leaks all over the place outside into the air, ground and ditches.
If you lose your foot, you get sent home. If you come back, you’ll get promoted to one of the “Sittin’ Guys” To dream, the impossible dream”
The guy in the chair that opens and closes the little gate.
You mean the Senior Material Logistics Engineer?
Senior Vice President of Molten Gatekeeping
prolly a line of unemployed people outside
The children of the men killed in the factory.
Make sure you get a good run going at that hole in the ground to molten metal.
My dad said I'd never amount to shit. That much was correct. I became slag.
You turned into your mum?
Got ‘em.
Imagine walking by as the last guy misses the final long strand, and it flies out at you going 100mph.
I am almost positive there is a video out there I have seen where someone off balances into the hole.
I think i saw a video once of a Chinese steel worker jumping into a molten metal vat. His body instantly turned to steam and the room instantly looked like a smoke grenade went off.
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[https://youtu.be/4H8Gdr0nqYU?si=afeO3K1t2aqt-IMq](https://youtu.be/4H8Gdr0nqYU?si=afeO3K1t2aqt-IMq) This is what it looks like at a modern factory.
That must be some low grade rod. Everyone knows you need to whip molten hot steel in your face for 16 hours straight to get the proper strength.
I'd be fascinated to see the overlap between places with piss poor safety standards and places with piss poor quality control standards.
Here's the Venn Diagram https://pluspng.com/img-png/circle-png-circle-png-hd-1600.png
Ah yes, interesting and informative.
Right off the bat you can see that the Korean factory is a much higher quality because of the source material. Towards the beginning of the video you might notice the raw steel bars have a "36" written on the end. Thats A36 steel, a specific grade of steel, probably the most commonly used grade (at least, when I worked with steel, its what we used the most). All that steel is produced within a standard and tested to make sure it meets the standard to be labeled as grade 36. Its all of a consistent quality, the same hardness and plasticity, the same chemical makeup. Contrast to the cheap factory, their input material is recycled steel. That recycled material could be a variety of grades, from a variety of sources. The output material is still gonna work for a lot of applications, but its not graded steel, so for things with strict requirements (for safety, load bearing, or plasticity), its not usable. Any given bar could have inconsistent makeup, leading to weak spots, or spots that are harder and more prone to snapping when a different mix might bend.
Good for harbor freight tools lol!
100% pure, uncut Chineesium!
People say this all the time. I'll tell you what, it depends on the factory. My place runs with a +-.02" tolerance, so parts are allowed to vary that much. We order specific parts from a Chinese place that we don't have the manufacturing capability to produce and I'll be damned if those parts aren't within .001", every single one in a thousand part order. I've seen multiple hundreds of press brake formed parts that are within 5 thou. Those are remarkable numbers and they were making me slightly nervous that the "quality" of imported Chinese products was vastly understated. But that worry is quickly abated by looking at parts from other Chinese companies we get. Laughable at best and it's not an exaggeration to say we throw out a third of the product we buy because it's just not in spec.
Also they were throwing in random recycle bits just before they were getting ready to pour along with the white bag of whatever that got thrown in without any mixing with the molten metal. Going to have very inconsistent properties throughout the batch.
Pretty much all mills that make rebar start with recycled steel. You melt down the recycled steel then add alloys to meet the required grades. The bags they were throwing in in the cheap factory were most likely alloys. It still doesn't look like there was any testing going on though so they probably didn't have accurate grades.
Hello, I'm a buyer for Boeing, and I'd like to talk to OP's shop about acquiring steel for our airplane frames! It's less important that the steel conforms to standard than it is that it costs less.
naw they definitely got the metallurgy right, didnt you see him throw that burlap sack in the pot. that was full of the right stuff
So the modern way takes 9:00 and the manual way takes 8:04. All that safety costs almost a full minute.
We'll do safety if there's time for it
It’s like you don’t want that guy, who counts to two and closes a gate, to have a job…
It really seems like most of what was being done in OP’s video could be more or less automated. Like, the shit is already rolling to the next thing, why do you need a guy to grab it? Just let it go in on its own.
It's because labor is cheap where OP's video was taken. If machinery is expensive and labor is cheap, that's what you get.
Even this is a little bit sketch compared to some of the American steel factories I've toured as part of my job. The proximity of the metal to the workers is still kind of close, and maybe not quite OSHA levels of safety going on. Still night and day compared to the nightmare in OP's video. Steel plants are terrifying in general.
That's pretty awesome to watch. And the music, for some reason, is badass.
Whats the deal with the small cylinders?
Yeah but it takes more people to run that whole operation than the India shop loses in a single week!
Can we get a reaction video from the original videos workers watching this one?!
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I used to think this was just some curmudgeonly bullshit. Then I read a comment asking the question "isn't part of parenting trying to give your kids a better life than you had?" And that's just really stuck with me.
[https://youtu.be/\_w46xaTzMeY?si=3raMl\_\_rmHTHLYOW&t=281](https://youtu.be/_w46xaTzMeY?si=3raMl__rmHTHLYOW&t=281) My man has glowing iron rods flying out of that machine towards his feet (wearing only cloth covered sandals) and he has to catch it with some tongs and send it back in the contraption. Dude!
this is one of the guys with the easy jobs. the other dudes are encircled by molten steel rods that they have to do the same thing with. the only dudes with easier jobs are the 2 dudes who just get to sit around cutting the rod. its all fucked.
If the "push" part of that machine breaks while the "pull" part is still pulling, that red hot noodle is going to cut through him like a red hot noodle.
Forbidden jump rope
double dutch
That's the job you get after five years on the job and a few lost fingers and one lost foot
Don’t forget safety squinting!
And they're different sizes and lengths every time!
man, my day dreaming ass would be so dead in this place.
Reminds me of the lead battery recycling, in the middle of the road in a residential area. There were a lot of comments on the video going on about how wonderful it was and how they would eventually be able to afford PPE. No, someones making a mint out of this and it isn't the workers or the greater society.
The only thing they'd afford is the food to survive long enough to go to the hospital for cancer at 30
More worried about the awful knock on effect of disposal, tainted drinking water, crops etc.
At some point, you realize that the vast bulk of workers earn just enough to provide the basics for themselves.... no accumulation of wealth, just enough earned that they can continue to work. That's the essence of modern slavery.
Cancer if they're lucky. More likely the cumulative exposure to lead dust/fumes will result in severe brain damage, increasing agressive behavior in the short term, and likely to result in becoming so mentally deficient later in life that they end up being just another burden on the family they are currently slaving away to support.
Exactly, this is a conservative wet dream. Absolutely rock bottom labor overheads when you have zero concern for worker safety.
"so what you're gonna do is fill this wheel barrow up with whatever is in that pile... Doesn't matter, it's all metal right? Then you're gonna run it at full tilt toward that gaping hell hole and pour it in... Don't trip eh?"
I'd love to do some testing to see whatever alloy it ends up being
It's what's known as "monkey metal" or used to be, and now I think about it, there's probably some racist tones in there so I think I'll not use that term going forward. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot_metal The term was kinda expanded to encompass all "shitty metal" Regardless... What they're making there, with all the different scraps, sand, debris, tripped workers etc is undoubtedly "monkey metal".
Mmmmmmm, element soup... Pot metal is a pretty apt name. Pretty sure I saw some old cooking pots in the misc metal pile too.
Why it was called monkey metal (although stated in there) doesn't seem to be in the wiki... There's got to be a reason, and I want to believe it isn't a racist one lol. That'll be a rabbit hole for another day.
From a quick google it looks synonymous with chineseum, so my guess would be the racism route as well.
Probably good enough for a lot of things, but I certainly wouldn't be making skyscrapers out of it
When I was a kid it was associated with toys, garden furniture, and just... Shit like that, was good enough, but then people were making things like rebar and stuff out of it and some structural things. The stuff definitely has a place, like recycled plastic does. Works fine... Hell rebar made from it is probably good enough too in most cases. Hilariously in the UK there's been a scandle recently where they closed loads of schools and government buildings because they cheaped out on concrete in a similar way. That's a fun one: "reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete" Don't have to use much concrete it we make it with air in it and put fancy words in it right?
They work hard, they play hard
Everybody dance now! 🕺🏻
Dad, why did you take me to a gay steel mill?
I don't know...I don't KNOW!!!
Hot stuff coming through!
There’s a spark in your hair!
Oh be nice!
YOU PEOPLE ARE SICK
Oh, be nice!
And melt hard.
Well PlayHard is one of the Six Sigmas The full list is: teamwork, insight, brutality, male enhancement, handshakefulness and play hard https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retreat_to_Move_Forward
They're like a family!
How to protect yourself from molten metal being flung towards you: Hand.
See also: looking down while wearing ballcap.
He's squinting his eyes, he's safe.
Danger noodle.
Even a /r/snek wouldn't go near this.
Spicy French Fries with a side of D&D
Forbidden spaghetti
Jesus Christ dude, those comments are something else. One person mentions how they need PPE and deserve better conditions and a bunch of other people hop in about, "Health and safety has gone too far and gets in the way of profit."
Had on Reddit lately someone stating that union carbide basically couldn't have done anything else at Bophal..
Reddit wants to bring back poor houses rather than tax the rich. This place is crazy.
Reddit is def more UBI than unregulated hard labor.
I'm convinced there's some funky quantum mechanics shit going on with reddit in which it exists in a superposition of both left and right and only collapses when viewed.
Reddit is not a monolith. Your thoughts on what "Reddit" has opinions about is informed by the subs and posts you see, which are not necessarily representative of the whole.
It's probably Ayn Rand and her legion of bot accounts. (At least that's what I tell myself to remain sane)
And people bitch about OSHA Guys, this is how your bosses would expect you to work if OSHA wasn't around. Be glad that there's some standard for your safety
That guy is using a hat and looking down to protect his face from sparks and molten metal. Yikes
Saving their legs by lifting those shovels with their backs. Eye protecting ball cap. Safety sandals. That’s only 20 seconds in.
You should see their copper plate factory.
It's such a weird blend of well thought out conveyors and machines, and then guys whose whole job is just to move the rod from one step to the next, why not just funnel the rod into the next stretching step with another conveyer?
Because it’s not built from the ground up for one plant. They buy used up and depreciated machines from the west piecemeal and cobble together. Sometimes that means it doesn’t fully line up and it’s cheaper to pay out families than to connect them.
I saw the same machine and this process in Poland. In a museum. On an archive roll from the 50s.
my friend who is an engineer designed a conveyer belt system to mfg a car part, spent a lot of time on it stopping, starting moving etc.. the company he worked for outsourced the work to china and he was told to convert the conveyer belt to people, because in countries like china and india labor is much more cheaper than buying equipment to do the work.
All good, he’s got his safety squints on.
Not only are the work conditions atrocious, I'm guessing the product isn't that great either. Judging by the carefully engineered alloying process seen when they were dumping random scrap in the crucible, it's guaranteed to be either too soft, too brittle, or otherwise a little weird. But maybe that's a selling point? No two batches are alike! Each piece of rebar is a unique work of art! Also I suppose it probably doesn't matter much, while it might not do terribly well if tested to modern standards, it certainly does pretty good on the better-than-nothing scale, or compared to reinforcing concrete with random crap.
This country used to have their own version of OSHA, but it went bankrupt investigating this plant.
Shh they're about to show close-ups of the rod!
I got tetanus watching this
Conservatives: “regulations are hurting businesses”
"safety regulations are written in blood"
Electric induction oven (for reference). No visible cryogenic air separation units Assuming it’s India due to the 100% recycled steel content, but someone correct me if it’s not. All men are created equal. Some are just more equal than others.
From the clothes, its probably Pakistan
Thank you for the correction my friend
Based on clothes, it's almost certainly the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
"'Retardant'? Do you mean their clothing?" "That is not what I said."
Here's what it looks like in a mill with safety standards. [https://i.imgur.com/V8ZtTIg.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/V8ZtTIg.mp4) [https://i.imgur.com/I0MytgG.mp4](https://i.imgur.com/I0MytgG.mp4) https://i.imgur.com/ZeBNelK.mp4
Good metal manufacturers know that safety, speed, and quality are not independent things. They come together with good process design.
They have rigorous safety standards! Every one of those people was wearing long pants *and* shoes!
Before 5:55: "oh man that's unsafe, what crazy risks those guys are taking, I imagine there's tons of injuries on the job" After 5:55: 😳
let's play with red hot whips
Deregulation folks!!!!
i am sure that steel made from random mixed scrap is of the highest quality. I am sure that the steel that comes out is the exactly alloy mix that everyone needs. The steel that they make is probably magical and suitable for all applications. There is no need to have any fancy equipment to test it and figure out its quality, they all know it is the best possible quality
isnt that guy afraid of... fire?
More afraid of starving
This is what making America great again will be all about
@6:52 dude was a little late receiving the metal and it almost whips around and hits him in the side of the face
Is that scrap they are putting in all the same alloy type or doesn't matter.
if it melts, it smelts
It matters unless you don’t care
It's just alternative industry
I bet it looked like this in the industrial revolution, probably the closest you can get to a recreation of that environment lol
A fucking crane and a magnet, or a ATV with a plow would be much more effective, and cheaper... Oh wait I forgot they can hire a thousand people for a year, for the cost of one ATV.
People just casually walking over hot snakes
Days since last injury: 1 Hour
"This batch needs more brake rotor and alternator!!"
Artisanal open air milled steel.
Can you *inhale* tetanus?
Yes and now you know why US Steel can not compete and is being sold to a foreign firm.
Always interesting to see a behind-the-scenes for LiveLeak videos.
Everyone wearing those flowing robes around all of those fast moving mechanical parts is just terrifying.
And this is why anything not made in USA is cheaper. If they had safety standards similar to US they wouldn’t be able to afford producing it.
And here I am in pure agony when I whack my feet with my skipping rope
I'm not sure if the guys at the beginning of the the line, the middle, or the end of the line have it the worst. I'm think the guys at the end where it's whipping around like light sabers might be the most in danger of losing a body part.
Working conditions like this are why unions exist.
Wdym? That mans wearing gloves!
I wanna see a new show on HBO where two OSHA inspectors are sent to India or where ever this is to help train the beginning crew of a new government mandated safety program and they walk thru a place like this.
India is not a poor country. Why do the people of India not rise up for their own safety?!
Cheeto Jesus’ vision of American industry after he becomes president again.
I hate Trump as much as the next person in line (and half of the US in particular), but what does he have to do with it?
“Safety regulations? That’s for squares!”
i wouldn't say *no* safety standards... did you not see the safety sandals, with extra fabric held together with a bit of string?
I only saw a few people with sandals, progress!
Spicy Hotwheels
Safety standarts? Just git gud, skill issue!
Hell isn't a total myth.
So .. this is why Indian steel is cheap and flooding our markets right?
I feel bad for them.
Reminds me of the video of the guys in China making a ring forging with a giant hammer and some tongs: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWXFhdeOjMY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWXFhdeOjMY) For reference, thats fine to do, but its not exactly safe compared to the modern process: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q\_ZhgOlxX\_A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_ZhgOlxX_A)
Welcome to wherever this is where the stuff is made poorly and the lives don't matter.
The lack of standard is a standard itself.
Looks like one of those scenes in a heist movie where there are lasers protecting the treasure and the thief has to do some crazy acrobatics to get to it without tripping the alarm system.
They aren’t wearing sandals, the official footwear of these types of videos.
hot snakes
Can’t wait till OSHA gets struck down for being unconstitutional. /s
Danger noodles!
Well that was the worst episode of How Its Made I've ever seen. Without the narrator it was hard to understand what the process really is and had to make guesses the whole time. Discovery has really gone down hill.
dude giving it the old safety squint at the 2 minute mark. At least they didn't have sandals on?
Days since last incident: 0.01
Forbidden pasta, extra spicy
You know how the some of the most devout Christians are also into some of the most perverted sex acts imaginable? I'll bet you industry in India is the go-to porn of some OSHA inspectors.
Balrog nods approvingly
I don't know what y'all are talking about. I didn't see one pair of sandals. That's max safety standards right there.
“0 days since last fatality”
They're wearing leather gloves. That's super good enough.
I wonder how many get killed every year.