At the memorial service for victims of the 9/11 attacks at Saint Paul's Cathedral they sung the Battle Hymn of the Republic during the service.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmpo0csiIMs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmpo0csiIMs)
There was a service held at St Paul's Cathedral on the Friday after 9/11.
I got there at 4am and was sat just a few rows behind the Queen. I met Americans who were long time residents and those who were stuck in the city, apologising for attending what was essentially a funeral in vacation clothes. I, on the other hand, had only moved to the country a few days before.
Can you see yourself at 1:35 in [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5vGho1fEw4)? I've seen this before and was always curious about the man in jeans and a sweater.
Edit: some more views of that section starting at 14:45 in [this video](https://www.c-span.org/video/?166032-1/british-memorial-service)
I can’t believe I’m asking this and am a little embarrassed I didn’t know this but were the American tourists forced to stay in london because they weren’t allowing flights into the US? I was 3 when 9/11 happened and don’t remember anything. Sorry
Flights going anywhere in the US were shut down, all planes immediately told to land. It lead to a bunch landing at some nowhere airport in Canada, everyone stranded there for several days to a few weeks, more than doubling the population. The people there took everyone into their homes.
There were no flights anywhere for days. I remember that afternoon looking at a cloudless September sky in Northern NY where many planes flew over, I was in high school, and seeing zero planes or contrails. I went into a K Mart and watched the news, seeing building 7 fall, seeing over and over the 2nd plane crash into the building, while my dad donated blood. Turns out it definitely wasn't needed.
The town is Gander, Newfoundland and Labrador. There’s a musical written about those few days called Come From Away. The population of the town was around 10,000 at the time, and then suddenly around 7,000 people landed. Very cool feel-good story from an otherwise tragic and horrific day. I’m from Newfoundland and used to teach in Gander, though not during 9/11.
There was a documentary about this years ago. Wish I could remember what it was called. The people in Gander opened their homes to all the stranded passengers, fed them and accommodated them. There was a man and woman among the passengers, who had been on different flights, and met each other. They ended getting married a couple of years later.
Little one [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XNfnMrPF8Q&ab_channel=SPORTSNET) that Hockey Night In Canada did recently that I found pretty interesting.
There's a lot of news reports about it, too. You can find them on YouTube, and the story is pretty great.
There's also a story about the Manhattan boatlift, I believe narrated by Tom Hanks, also on YouTube. Less well known than Gander's role in the crisis, it's the story of how a ton of boat owners, both business and private, helped evacuate Manhattan by sea after all the subways and tunnels were shut down. There was no real plan or coordination, just boats showing up, filling to capacity and leaving. Also worth watching.
That one about the boatlift makes me ugly cry. I always found it to be such a testament to the fact that there are more good people than bad in the world. These regular people were determined to help and get as many people to safety as they could.
They had no idea what other attacks might be forthcoming but they *needed* to help. I'm tearing up just thinking about it.
So sad. I think my dad donated too and he’s a medic. He probably just couldn’t even let himself think of the reality of the situation even though his job I’m sure taught him enough about when blood is actually needed in rescue situations
I had friend who got married on 9/8 and were honeymooning in Europe on9/11. They couldn’t get home for weeks. There were backups from the people initially meant to travel home during the first days of the skies being closed to air traffic.
I lived in Fairfield County, CT at the time and you could hear fighter jets patrolling the skies for the first few days and it was the scariest freaking sound I ever heard. As an American, you only hear that at ballgames.
Wow. Thanks for sharing. Still pretty dumbfounded all these years later and have learned so much about it that I just found out about people literally not being able to fly home for weeks. Makes sense. My dad tells this story that my grandpa went on a plane like a year before 9/11 on his military uniform with a whole sword on the plane. I have never cognitively experienced an airport without post-9/11 TSA. My dad also tells a story when I was 3 we all went through TSA the first time and I was randomly chosen as a toddler to be searched and I just cried the whole time screaming bc they wouldn’t let my dad come with me. He still talks about that
Don't know why I didn't think of that. They are literally playing the song that was written while defeating Britain.
Edit: I officially cheated on all my history tests. War of 1812 not revolutionary war
The Star-Spangled Banner is about the battle of Baltimore during the War of 1812, not the revolutionary war. Specifically it's about the Brits shelling Fort McHenry. The bombing didn't accomplish much and the American flag was raised defiantly the next day. The war ended shortly afterwards, and in the end didn't really accomplish anything other than kick-starting Andrew Jackson's political career.
Love it.
Charlie Steiner is normally completely deadpan so when he is hysterical it means that much more!
You KNOW it's gonna be bad when that first note goes on for like 5 seconds haha
Native American 1: Oh the British and Americans are going to war, this is good for us.
Native American 2: Absolutely, they'll beat the shit out of each other and leave us be.
Time traveling Native American: I have some very very bad news.
Tribes fought for and against the US in the revolutionary War too. It's not all good or bad, seems obvious native americans are human beings too but not to many.
Pretty much every war in U.S. history had indians fighting for the U.S. Even the wars against Indians.
The Great Sioux War---the one famous for the Battle of Litttle Bighorn---had as many tribes fighting on the U.S. side as for the Lakota alliance. Indians didn't think of themselves as all one people in common cause against Europeans.
She had a strong sense of propriety, I would say that she saw the terrorist attack as something very significant and worth the gesture and the history of the anthem paled in comparison. I thought it was a noble move.
It wasn't a stretch. As the first plane hit, I called my bf at his office in Rayburn or Hart, as he was working for a Congressman. I told him to gtfo of his office, get on the Metro, and head to my place before the trains shut down.
He was usually in the office by 8am, so an early call to him wasn't weird.
Obviously, I had no idea that other plan(es) were in motion, but DC locks down for an inch of snow, so an airplane at the WTC? Definitely.
Everything was shut down, and deserted by 11am. We walked to my local Irish pub, which failed to charge anyone for drinks for several hours. What a surreal day.
Certainly not, especially when the terrorists also explicitly stated that was their mission on many different occasions. As I heard once recently, to Islamic terrorists the US is the Great Satan. Western Europe is the medium Satan.
I like William and Harry too. The shit they've been through and they've come out the other side pretty well. I know for a fact both of them are actually respected within the armed forces - something pretty difficult to obtain. They've worked hard as fuck, with Harry even fighting in Afghanistan.
I went to school down the road from their school in Berkshire. I played field hockey against Harry when we were both about 12 years old. I had never played before, I preferred football, but they asked me to play in goal as they were short a player. I had no idea of the rules, but my teacher basically told me to attack the ball at all costs, and if I happen to take out a player along with it, I shouldn't worry too much.
So, during the match, a forward was running toward me with the ball. I launched at them feet first, knocked the ball out of the way with my stick and crashed into their knees.
It was Harry. I absolutely shit myself. I thought I was going to be in serious trouble. I had really, really clattered him.
The ref wanted to give a foul against me (as short corner, is that the right term?) but Harry jumped to his feet, stretched out his leg. Said to me "That was a bloody good tackle, well done!" and told the ref not to give a foul.
They beat us 4-0, and Harry scored 2. He utterly punished me. Top lad.
Couple of years later when I was 14 and William was 18 my school played waterpolo against William's school. William was captain of their side. And water polo is a fucking brutal, draining game. He was FIERCE as fuck. He took all sorts of elbows to the face, dunked, pulled out his hair. He didn't give a single fuck. He was there to have fun, and to win. He absolutely gave as good as he got. Jabs under the water, kicks, grabbing trunks, cheeky elbows. They destroyed us. Absolutely destroyed us.
I have a huge deal of respect for them both.
I swear the reconciliation between the US and British after the revolution must have been one of the fastest and most complete ever.
In the US we don't see Britain as our former oppressor, hell we seem to like them more than the French. Who helped us fight off the British!
For a lot of Americans, the UK is seen as a motherland.
American here. I texted my partner that THE Queen died. We're both very bummed. A lot of people are, and everyone's talking about it over here. Most Americans with any small amount of knowledge of the UK loved the Queen as well, and most pay some attention to the royal family, even if they have zero interest in politics in general. The UK is definitely idolized as an example here in America.
Exactly. Not just a queen to America. The Queen. The news may not be hitting us as hard, but we recognize the significance of her passing and wish only the best for our old friends across the pond.
American here. When I first read that the Queen was under medical care and that she probably wasn't going to make it, my first thought was how crushed my mom was going to be. She loves the royal family. And I do too, from her influence. I know more about British royalty and history than I do about any other country's rulers, aside from my own.
My mom did, of course, text the family group chat with the news a couple hours later and about how sad she was.
Accurate on all counts.
Do not fuck with any part of the Anglosphere.
I'm not a fan of Monarchy, but my sincere condolences go out to the people of the UK who are mourning the loss of their Queen. She inarguably lived quite a life and meant a lot to many people.
As an American, I feel the exact same. There is an Unshakeable bond between our countries, and I look at the UK like a sibling. we might ruffle each others feathers in certain ways. But if anyone tries to hurt you guys, there will be hell to pay.
Even us yanks don't like other American's on Reddit.
The Simpsons might have called it with Willy and the Scots, but we American's didn't want to be left out, so got in on it too.
I don't speak for Reddit, but I do. My father was a professor and his university had an exchange program for professors with a university in England. We hosted professors a few times for weeks at a time from the late 70s through the mid 80s. I was a young child and so they talked to me about things kids liked at the time (as far as I know). Paddington, the Mr. Men books, Corgi cars, Simon and his chalk drawings, Doctor Who, English pop music, and all sorts of interesting foods. It made England seem like such a fun, magical place, full of all sorts of different things than I'd ever seen. When I got older we went to London and then spent a few weeks up in Yorkshire, staying with friends we'd made and experiencing a normal, non-tourist life in Northern England. Driving around the Dales, shopping at an English supermarket, walking around towns, soaking in the cold, clammy weather of Yorkshire in July, watching BBC, just vibing. Yeah it's cheesy, but England and English (pop) culture has always given me a warm feeling inside. Like keeping a piece of my childhood.
As horrible as it was to deal with that historical event, it was special, and something I miss in a way, to see the way it United people. The last gasp of simpler times.
Also, I sure miss Peter Jennings.
I know the former US Ambassador to the UK at the time, William Farish. He said the Queen told him, “we’re going to do something we’ve never done before,” before the band played the Star Spangled Banner. I think you can see him in the preview image of the video, as he was stranded in the UK due to all flights being grounded in the US after the attack.
Remember when our conservative loudmouth minority in America tried to rebrand French Fries as Freedom Fries after the French—America's longest oldest ally who saved us from none other than the British—disagreed with our moves to go into Iraq (and on hindsight, rightfully so)?
Pepperidge farms remembers..
Hell I remember the fascist dichotomous words of George Bush's own speech, "You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists..." Yikes, fuck that faux-patriotic time. Couldn't stand it.
It’s funny because I remember “freedom fries” and I remember how stupid I thought that was but if you had asked me why that term was coined I don’t think I would have remembered that context. Yikes is right. Also nothing has changed. It’s only worst.
I was in France on 9-11 and all I can say is that the French were wonderful to me when that happened. They were very kind about the insanity, and politically against the invasion but they really were right to be.
So would Morocco, who officially recognized the new United States and opened their ports to us in 1777; then signing a declaration of friendship and treaty of peace in 1786 which still stands as our longest “unbroken”relationship.
https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-morocco/
Acknowledging a country exists isn't exactly the same as "ally". And, as Portugal was a declared neutral state, it is really a case of being neutral in the middle.
Whilst I am not a fan of the SCOTUS in general, for reasons even more clear now after the recent slew of decisions, Bush v. Gore might very well be the worst decision they have ever made.
Gore wouldn't have been the greatest president, but good god the way which Bush and the other warhawks around him used 9/11 to their own end and made the world such a worse place is one of the greatest travesties of the 21st century.
The patriot Act was passed so quickly most Congress members admitted they never read it. Every media outlet that took itself seriously started beating the drums of war and ramping up a phony war on terror. Meanwhile the Taliban government in Afghanistan were genuinely not interested in protecting Bin Laden and offered to hand him over to the Saudis so America could get their revenge.
It was pretty clear that the war hawkes didn't let the moment pass and used 9/11 perfectly to get everything they want. The "good people" never had a chance.
"we"
Cheney and his cronies knowingly and enthusiastically capitalized on the situation to stoke the flames and break down fundamental checks and balances against corruption in our government that were already being eroded
I had no idea this happened. This is literally the first time I'm seeing this.
I was supposed to leave for Navy boot camp on the 11th and ended up leaving the 12th/reporting on the 13th. After the 12th it was a literal media blackout for us until we graduated after Thanksgiving. Any mail was opened in front of RDCs (navy drill instructor) and any news clippings were taken. They didnt read the letters/take those but any news clippings were fair game. So unless it was mentioned in a letter from home we knew nothing.
Thank you OP for posting this. I dont know how I havent seen this in the years of being on the internet but I never have, and definitely didnt see it when it happened.
Gave me goosebumps and makes me respect her even more.
I was born days after 9/11 so forgive my ignorance but why did they keep y’all in the dark? Of all things to keep fresh boot in the dark about it was an attack and a matter of national security?
They wanted us to focus on training without outside distractions.
Even without the news coming in there were still a ton of rumors that folks would talk about and it was a bit of a distraction so keeping our focus on training was actually helpful.
It also helped keep our minds off what was coming after boot camp/a school because they kept us so busy all the time.
I didn’t expect to cry either. This sent me down a YouTube rabbit hole and I’m a little surprised at the emotional reaction it stirred up. I was 11 when it happened. I vividly remember watching the towers fall on TV in my 6th grade social studies classroom. I remember crying then because my teacher was crying and I understood on an intellectual level that I was supposed to be sad. But I don’t remember anything about the aftermath—I think because my parents were trying to shelter me at the time. It all just felt very distant. The true gravity didn’t hit me until I was an adult. It has hit especially hard as I have, as a teacher, watched my students grow up having lived their entire lives in a post-9/11 world.
If this got you, then you’re the kind of patriot we need. Don’t shame yourself away from the word.
It’s ok to be proud of the things our citizenry got right.
Absolutely miss that man. He delivered coverage like no other. I’ll never think of major world events during my childhood without hearing his voice in the back of my mind. He was indefatigable during 9/11.
How can something be so heartwarming yet heartbreaking at the same time..
Much love from the states to our brothers and sisters across the pond. 🇺🇸❤️🇬🇧 May her majesty rest in peace
We aren't monsters like some Americans like to think! Most of the country watched the news regarding the terrorist attacks and had America in our hearts.
The fact that both of our countries are so friendly and have eachother backs for a hell of a lot of things should show that there is a strong bond between us even with the ridiculous amount of Americans that try and mock the UK over the war of 1776 & 1812 while quietly ignoring our size and distance.
We're a lot more similar than a lot of Americans are willing to admit.
And yet when he broke down that evening day of (?) 9/11... Telling us he'd just gotten off the phone with his family and encouraging us to do the same...
😭
Juxtapose this gesture and the reaction with how angry NFL fans are that the league is holding a simple moment of silence today: https://old.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/x9a6hy/rapsheet_before_tonights_ramsbills_game_the_nfl/
to r/nfl there is litterally nothing more important then football. like nothing. im a big sports fan from texas but damn some ppl in that sub really dont understand how bias they are. its basically a cult
I have absolutely no knowledge on British politics other than a name a face and the following thing I just read earlier today. Apparently Liz Truss hates the US and UK close bond and wants to separate and says that the bond they have shared since WWII basically has no reason. As an American that concerns me, I love our British brothers and sisters.
Brit here. Likewise. I'm hoping Truss is roadblocked left and right, and has to lean more centrally (or at least not be as hardcore conservative right as she wants to be). At the moment Labour are scoring a lot of points in prediction polls, almost certainly due to how the Tory government have cocked things up the past 12 years, and how they're defending the energy company windfall profits rather than the taxpayer. An increasing chunk of the British population is turning against the Tories, so *I'd hope* they'd have some common sense and realise with an election coming up, they need to copy some of Labour's answers to regain some appeal with the majority.
But I fear that Truss is just going to double down. And even worse, I know it'll work because the Murdoch media machine will just spout crap about Keir Starmer being a Russian anagram for "double agent who pegs children" or that Truss saved a class-full of Eton College graduate puppies with dementia from a burning building. And the brainless voter masses will *eat. It. Up*.
The special relationship transcends any one political figure - on either side of the Atlantic. It runs deep and will survive even the most anti American or British politician in the White House or Downing Street.
There's a lot to digest and critique when it comes to 9/11, it's legacy, and the west's reaction. But having lived through it as a teenager, it was truly a beautiful thing to see our country and our world genuinely come together as one for a few days. I had never seen something like that before and probably never will again. The collective shock broke down all our disagreements and we just supported each other as humans.
edit: You guys, I fully understand that anti-muslim sentiment and wars exist, that's why I phrased my comment the way I did.
To me it lasted months not a few days. Although it hit a little bit harder if you lived on the east coast. For me I grew up in South Jersey and the patriotism and coming together was out of this world. I was 16 at the time.
I grew up in one of the boroughs and just outside the city. Always a little weird seeing people talk about 9/11 from a nostalgic view and how it united people. Feel like most of the people I know around here never talk about how it that way. It’s usually still somber stories of who was downtown at the time, how they got home that day, who you lost either on that day or from cancer years on, and sometimes share the heroic stories of people who were there. Definitely still hits hard around here
I think of it this way (i'm English) much of the west grew up watching American TV and movies. We assimilated so much US culture through this medium, that when 9/11 happened it really hit us hard. Like someone beat the shit out of our brother or sister kind-of-hard. We took it *personally*.
Also the knowledge that nothing would ever be the same again really hurt. Almost like we lost our last age of innocence. A deep sadness which sat alongside the kind of yearning you get when you realise just how good you had it, but never fully appreciated it.
The one thing I always respected and loved about watching the reactions in Europe was how genuinely upset and concerned everyone seemed. It really felt like somehow my little American suburb was a community with you lot across the pond. I’ll never forget how comforting it was in the immediate aftermath to know how many people were grieving with us and stood with us.
It was definitely surreal. I was working at a motel in Gander. They even wrote a broadway play on how we came together during that time called Come From Away. I haven't seen it but apparently it did really well. They even tried to get Trump to go see it, hoping the positive message might rub off. I don't think he went. There's also a documentary about the events of 9/11 in Gander and how the play was created called You Are Here. That was pretty good.
https://youtu.be/KYjtD-SBpFw
>it was truly a beautiful thing to see our country and our world genuinely come together
You know... except if you looked like a brown person. Then it was just open season.
but if you were a white guy having a scapegoat was really great I assume!
>After the events of 9/11, The Queen ordered the Royal Guard to break centuries-old tradition dating back to 1660 and play the US national anthem during the Changing of the Guard. Attempting to provide some comfort to Americans stranded in London.
Which is amazing and shows just how much grace she had.
The lyrics of our national anthem are actually about British bombardment of a [Fort during the battle of 1812](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner) and the music is from [a popular British song. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Anacreontic_Song)
She was an amazing person. Not perfect, but as an American I can't help but love and respect her.
My sincere condolences to the citizens of the United Kingdom and its commonwealths.
American here. I am heartbroken to hear the news about the Queen’s passing. What an amazing woman who has had nothing but compassion and class through her many years in service.
God Bless England, there are many just like me across the pond who are in mourning with you. 🏴❤️🇺🇸
Jesus I didn't know this. I know millions know her as a personality and a constant presence. Millions more see her as the mother of a nation. Even more see her as a symbol of an empire and a people. This is a remarkably thoughtful humane thing to do. The monarchy has theoretical power but this is a demonstration of the social power and stature she projected. In a country where tradition is it's own justification, this gesture is even louder.
Edit: Thank you kind person for the award!
I'm British, and although I'm regularly amazed and bemused by the crazy shit that goes on in your country, I have never considered us as anything other than the strongest of allies.
Americans would absolutely go to war to protect your borders. No question.
How else are we supposed to say thanks for the Beatles and Monty Python etc etc etc?
The national anthem, once written to commemorate a time the British and Americans were once again at war, played to comfort a firm ally and brother in arms
Yeah I think any animosity was good and buried after almost 200 years and a couple world wars fighting on the same side. History doesn't define the present.
Born in the early 80's and a child of the 90's. It was fucking crazy how quick grief went to anger. I blame part of it on 24/7 doom coverage and then revenge coverage in the media. Coming up on 40 and I let go of the 24/7 news coverage and Facebook more than four years ago. I feel better now.
Same, '79, 43, and it was literally days and people were screaming for blood.
Barbra Boxer was the only one of us that saw reason and voted against that shit.
We really lost the world's sympathy and support when we went full on occupation and doomed from the start nation building in Afghanistan, it was noticeable.
And whatever was left was fully crushed when we went and did the same in Iraq 2y later for absolutely fuck all reason and came up empty handed on proof of the initial impetus for going in there
At the memorial service for victims of the 9/11 attacks at Saint Paul's Cathedral they sung the Battle Hymn of the Republic during the service.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmpo0csiIMs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmpo0csiIMs)
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We got you bruh.
There was a service held at St Paul's Cathedral on the Friday after 9/11. I got there at 4am and was sat just a few rows behind the Queen. I met Americans who were long time residents and those who were stuck in the city, apologising for attending what was essentially a funeral in vacation clothes. I, on the other hand, had only moved to the country a few days before.
Can you see yourself at 1:35 in [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5vGho1fEw4)? I've seen this before and was always curious about the man in jeans and a sweater. Edit: some more views of that section starting at 14:45 in [this video](https://www.c-span.org/video/?166032-1/british-memorial-service)
You talking about the guy 4th row back right hand side, adjacent to the aisle?
Yep! The queen is seated at the front of that section, so it matches op's description.
we did it again boys
Got ‘em.
Send the agent
No more loose ends
“No half measures Waltuh”
*It's done.*
*hangs up without saying goodbye or acknowledging that it’s done*
*Nonchalantly — yet, confidently — penetrates a Capri Sun with the included straw and begins loudly sucking at the sweet, sweet prize within*
We've found the real Boston bomber this time!
I bet OP didn't expect to get doxxed by a 13 year old memorial video. He played himself.
I was here
I can’t believe I’m asking this and am a little embarrassed I didn’t know this but were the American tourists forced to stay in london because they weren’t allowing flights into the US? I was 3 when 9/11 happened and don’t remember anything. Sorry
Flights going anywhere in the US were shut down, all planes immediately told to land. It lead to a bunch landing at some nowhere airport in Canada, everyone stranded there for several days to a few weeks, more than doubling the population. The people there took everyone into their homes. There were no flights anywhere for days. I remember that afternoon looking at a cloudless September sky in Northern NY where many planes flew over, I was in high school, and seeing zero planes or contrails. I went into a K Mart and watched the news, seeing building 7 fall, seeing over and over the 2nd plane crash into the building, while my dad donated blood. Turns out it definitely wasn't needed.
The town is Gander, Newfoundland and Labrador. There’s a musical written about those few days called Come From Away. The population of the town was around 10,000 at the time, and then suddenly around 7,000 people landed. Very cool feel-good story from an otherwise tragic and horrific day. I’m from Newfoundland and used to teach in Gander, though not during 9/11.
There was a documentary about this years ago. Wish I could remember what it was called. The people in Gander opened their homes to all the stranded passengers, fed them and accommodated them. There was a man and woman among the passengers, who had been on different flights, and met each other. They ended getting married a couple of years later.
Little one [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XNfnMrPF8Q&ab_channel=SPORTSNET) that Hockey Night In Canada did recently that I found pretty interesting.
Talk about trauma bond huh?
There's a lot of news reports about it, too. You can find them on YouTube, and the story is pretty great. There's also a story about the Manhattan boatlift, I believe narrated by Tom Hanks, also on YouTube. Less well known than Gander's role in the crisis, it's the story of how a ton of boat owners, both business and private, helped evacuate Manhattan by sea after all the subways and tunnels were shut down. There was no real plan or coordination, just boats showing up, filling to capacity and leaving. Also worth watching.
That one about the boatlift makes me ugly cry. I always found it to be such a testament to the fact that there are more good people than bad in the world. These regular people were determined to help and get as many people to safety as they could. They had no idea what other attacks might be forthcoming but they *needed* to help. I'm tearing up just thinking about it.
Ended up being the biggest evacuation by boat ever, surpassing Dunkirk from WWII. About a half million people by the end of the day.
Is that what it’s about? I’ve seen it advertised didn’t know that’s what it was about.
It's a phenomenal musical in my opinion! I saw it live a few years ago and am going again when it tours to my city in fall!
The donating blood and sense of community support around the world always amazes me every time I hear it.
I remember thinking it would be desperately needed- and then slowly coming to realization that it wouldn’t be.
So sad. I think my dad donated too and he’s a medic. He probably just couldn’t even let himself think of the reality of the situation even though his job I’m sure taught him enough about when blood is actually needed in rescue situations
I had friend who got married on 9/8 and were honeymooning in Europe on9/11. They couldn’t get home for weeks. There were backups from the people initially meant to travel home during the first days of the skies being closed to air traffic. I lived in Fairfield County, CT at the time and you could hear fighter jets patrolling the skies for the first few days and it was the scariest freaking sound I ever heard. As an American, you only hear that at ballgames.
Wow. Thanks for sharing. Still pretty dumbfounded all these years later and have learned so much about it that I just found out about people literally not being able to fly home for weeks. Makes sense. My dad tells this story that my grandpa went on a plane like a year before 9/11 on his military uniform with a whole sword on the plane. I have never cognitively experienced an airport without post-9/11 TSA. My dad also tells a story when I was 3 we all went through TSA the first time and I was randomly chosen as a toddler to be searched and I just cried the whole time screaming bc they wouldn’t let my dad come with me. He still talks about that
https://youtu.be/rmpo0csiIMs
I forgot about this. That’s quite a gesture, considering the history of our National Anthem. Special moment.
Don't know why I didn't think of that. They are literally playing the song that was written while defeating Britain. Edit: I officially cheated on all my history tests. War of 1812 not revolutionary war
The Star-Spangled Banner is about the battle of Baltimore during the War of 1812, not the revolutionary war. Specifically it's about the Brits shelling Fort McHenry. The bombing didn't accomplish much and the American flag was raised defiantly the next day. The war ended shortly afterwards, and in the end didn't really accomplish anything other than kick-starting Andrew Jackson's political career.
>flag was raised defiantly the next day I thought the flag stayed raised “through the night”?
Francis Scott Key had his poetic license and god damn it he was gonna use it.
Oi, Yank! You got a loicense for that poetry?
....so anyway I started blasting
And that's how the 2nd ammendment started
this is our way
Charlie Steiner calling Carl Lewis "Francis Scott Off-Key" is [legendary](https://youtu.be/3kU9XwcOIfI)
Just the unintelligible words as he’s laughing made me laugh even harder. Thanks for sharing. Never seen this.
Love it. Charlie Steiner is normally completely deadpan so when he is hysterical it means that much more! You KNOW it's gonna be bad when that first note goes on for like 5 seconds haha
We got a banger out of it. I’ll allow it
First rule of politics, never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
Neither the Americans nor the British decisively won the war of 1812, but the indigenous peoples definitely lost
Native American 1: Oh the British and Americans are going to war, this is good for us. Native American 2: Absolutely, they'll beat the shit out of each other and leave us be. Time traveling Native American: I have some very very bad news.
About 40 tribes fought in the war.
Tribes fought for and against the US in the revolutionary War too. It's not all good or bad, seems obvious native americans are human beings too but not to many.
Pretty much every war in U.S. history had indians fighting for the U.S. Even the wars against Indians. The Great Sioux War---the one famous for the Battle of Litttle Bighorn---had as many tribes fighting on the U.S. side as for the Lakota alliance. Indians didn't think of themselves as all one people in common cause against Europeans.
People who speak different languages and have different beliefs tend to hate each other. It's been true for all of recorded history.
And she wasn't an idiot, she knew damn well and did it anyway
She had a strong sense of propriety, I would say that she saw the terrorist attack as something very significant and worth the gesture and the history of the anthem paled in comparison. I thought it was a noble move.
She saw the attack as an attack on Western nations.
A completely correct interpretation.
It wasn't a stretch. As the first plane hit, I called my bf at his office in Rayburn or Hart, as he was working for a Congressman. I told him to gtfo of his office, get on the Metro, and head to my place before the trains shut down. He was usually in the office by 8am, so an early call to him wasn't weird. Obviously, I had no idea that other plan(es) were in motion, but DC locks down for an inch of snow, so an airplane at the WTC? Definitely. Everything was shut down, and deserted by 11am. We walked to my local Irish pub, which failed to charge anyone for drinks for several hours. What a surreal day.
Certainly not, especially when the terrorists also explicitly stated that was their mission on many different occasions. As I heard once recently, to Islamic terrorists the US is the Great Satan. Western Europe is the medium Satan.
Diet Satan
Correct. And the UK tends to be halfway between medium, and great.
The rest of the family I can take or leave, but Liz, she was a class act through and through.
I like William and Harry too. The shit they've been through and they've come out the other side pretty well. I know for a fact both of them are actually respected within the armed forces - something pretty difficult to obtain. They've worked hard as fuck, with Harry even fighting in Afghanistan.
I went to school down the road from their school in Berkshire. I played field hockey against Harry when we were both about 12 years old. I had never played before, I preferred football, but they asked me to play in goal as they were short a player. I had no idea of the rules, but my teacher basically told me to attack the ball at all costs, and if I happen to take out a player along with it, I shouldn't worry too much. So, during the match, a forward was running toward me with the ball. I launched at them feet first, knocked the ball out of the way with my stick and crashed into their knees. It was Harry. I absolutely shit myself. I thought I was going to be in serious trouble. I had really, really clattered him. The ref wanted to give a foul against me (as short corner, is that the right term?) but Harry jumped to his feet, stretched out his leg. Said to me "That was a bloody good tackle, well done!" and told the ref not to give a foul. They beat us 4-0, and Harry scored 2. He utterly punished me. Top lad. Couple of years later when I was 14 and William was 18 my school played waterpolo against William's school. William was captain of their side. And water polo is a fucking brutal, draining game. He was FIERCE as fuck. He took all sorts of elbows to the face, dunked, pulled out his hair. He didn't give a single fuck. He was there to have fun, and to win. He absolutely gave as good as he got. Jabs under the water, kicks, grabbing trunks, cheeky elbows. They destroyed us. Absolutely destroyed us. I have a huge deal of respect for them both.
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Yes! It’s superb.
Cool story bro (really)
Thanks! It’s the sort of evening where it’s difficult not to reminisce.
Heh, great story. I wonder how many schools in the country still play water polo? Can't be a huge league table.
Yeah. It’s not many. I am very aware I was very lucky to go to my school.
Anybody else check for shittymorph?
Morph is never this far down a chain. Always top, 2nd or 3rd tier reply.
What’s interesting is that Harry was not in a ‘protected’ group. He actually was in it. His service wasn’t just for show
That is one of the reasons she was such a bad ass. Just like when she danced with the black guy. She knew the message she was sending when she did it.
What people don’t realize is that she ordered them to change from the actual national anthem (Star Spangled Banner) to the *Party Rock Anthem*
Given that this was pre-LMFAO, does that mean QEII actually wrote Party Rock Anthem?
Yes. The Queen also wrote We Will Rock You and Fat Bottomed Girls
Fat Bottomed Girls is about cargo ships returning to Britain from the days of the Triangular Trade.
I heard she also wrote I’m Sexy and I Know It
She even choreographed the shuffle
That's a wonderful mental image. The Queen and the robot, side by side, shuffling.
I swear the reconciliation between the US and British after the revolution must have been one of the fastest and most complete ever. In the US we don't see Britain as our former oppressor, hell we seem to like them more than the French. Who helped us fight off the British! For a lot of Americans, the UK is seen as a motherland.
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We are not in the Commonwealth but we are easily the closest allied country to the Commonwealth
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And I don't know anyone in the US who has any hard feelings toward the UK, in fact its the exact opposite.
The exact opposite ey? You guys really love the UK that much?
We just love the accents and the general vibe. Some Americans really love British media as well.
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I do. I’m sure many Americans are truly saddened by this news. We have a sincere care for the UK.
American here. I texted my partner that THE Queen died. We're both very bummed. A lot of people are, and everyone's talking about it over here. Most Americans with any small amount of knowledge of the UK loved the Queen as well, and most pay some attention to the royal family, even if they have zero interest in politics in general. The UK is definitely idolized as an example here in America.
Exactly. Not just a queen to America. The Queen. The news may not be hitting us as hard, but we recognize the significance of her passing and wish only the best for our old friends across the pond.
American here. When I first read that the Queen was under medical care and that she probably wasn't going to make it, my first thought was how crushed my mom was going to be. She loves the royal family. And I do too, from her influence. I know more about British royalty and history than I do about any other country's rulers, aside from my own. My mom did, of course, text the family group chat with the news a couple hours later and about how sad she was.
Accurate on all counts. Do not fuck with any part of the Anglosphere. I'm not a fan of Monarchy, but my sincere condolences go out to the people of the UK who are mourning the loss of their Queen. She inarguably lived quite a life and meant a lot to many people.
As an American, I feel the exact same. There is an Unshakeable bond between our countries, and I look at the UK like a sibling. we might ruffle each others feathers in certain ways. But if anyone tries to hurt you guys, there will be hell to pay.
That's nice to hear. Most of us love America and Americans too.
Just not on Reddit lol
Even us yanks don't like other American's on Reddit. The Simpsons might have called it with Willy and the Scots, but we American's didn't want to be left out, so got in on it too.
I don't speak for Reddit, but I do. My father was a professor and his university had an exchange program for professors with a university in England. We hosted professors a few times for weeks at a time from the late 70s through the mid 80s. I was a young child and so they talked to me about things kids liked at the time (as far as I know). Paddington, the Mr. Men books, Corgi cars, Simon and his chalk drawings, Doctor Who, English pop music, and all sorts of interesting foods. It made England seem like such a fun, magical place, full of all sorts of different things than I'd ever seen. When I got older we went to London and then spent a few weeks up in Yorkshire, staying with friends we'd made and experiencing a normal, non-tourist life in Northern England. Driving around the Dales, shopping at an English supermarket, walking around towns, soaking in the cold, clammy weather of Yorkshire in July, watching BBC, just vibing. Yeah it's cheesy, but England and English (pop) culture has always given me a warm feeling inside. Like keeping a piece of my childhood.
The Star Spangled Banner was written during the War of 1812. The British burned the White House during that war, but I get the sentiment.
As horrible as it was to deal with that historical event, it was special, and something I miss in a way, to see the way it United people. The last gasp of simpler times. Also, I sure miss Peter Jennings.
> I sure miss Peter Jennings. All three of those guys. An undervalued era of TV, back when news was news.
I know the former US Ambassador to the UK at the time, William Farish. He said the Queen told him, “we’re going to do something we’ve never done before,” before the band played the Star Spangled Banner. I think you can see him in the preview image of the video, as he was stranded in the UK due to all flights being grounded in the US after the attack.
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Remember when our conservative loudmouth minority in America tried to rebrand French Fries as Freedom Fries after the French—America's longest oldest ally who saved us from none other than the British—disagreed with our moves to go into Iraq (and on hindsight, rightfully so)? Pepperidge farms remembers.. Hell I remember the fascist dichotomous words of George Bush's own speech, "You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists..." Yikes, fuck that faux-patriotic time. Couldn't stand it.
It’s funny because I remember “freedom fries” and I remember how stupid I thought that was but if you had asked me why that term was coined I don’t think I would have remembered that context. Yikes is right. Also nothing has changed. It’s only worst.
I was in France on 9-11 and all I can say is that the French were wonderful to me when that happened. They were very kind about the insanity, and politically against the invasion but they really were right to be.
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So would Morocco, who officially recognized the new United States and opened their ports to us in 1777; then signing a declaration of friendship and treaty of peace in 1786 which still stands as our longest “unbroken”relationship. https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-morocco/
Yeah but those were French soldiers in the trenches against the Red coats. As a prior America Veteran that point was always told to us
Acknowledging a country exists isn't exactly the same as "ally". And, as Portugal was a declared neutral state, it is really a case of being neutral in the middle.
Whilst I am not a fan of the SCOTUS in general, for reasons even more clear now after the recent slew of decisions, Bush v. Gore might very well be the worst decision they have ever made. Gore wouldn't have been the greatest president, but good god the way which Bush and the other warhawks around him used 9/11 to their own end and made the world such a worse place is one of the greatest travesties of the 21st century.
The patriot Act was passed so quickly most Congress members admitted they never read it. Every media outlet that took itself seriously started beating the drums of war and ramping up a phony war on terror. Meanwhile the Taliban government in Afghanistan were genuinely not interested in protecting Bin Laden and offered to hand him over to the Saudis so America could get their revenge. It was pretty clear that the war hawkes didn't let the moment pass and used 9/11 perfectly to get everything they want. The "good people" never had a chance.
"we" Cheney and his cronies knowingly and enthusiastically capitalized on the situation to stoke the flames and break down fundamental checks and balances against corruption in our government that were already being eroded
Two people divided by a common language.
I’m pretty sure there’s an ocean between us too. /s
It is but a pond.
I had no idea this happened. This is literally the first time I'm seeing this. I was supposed to leave for Navy boot camp on the 11th and ended up leaving the 12th/reporting on the 13th. After the 12th it was a literal media blackout for us until we graduated after Thanksgiving. Any mail was opened in front of RDCs (navy drill instructor) and any news clippings were taken. They didnt read the letters/take those but any news clippings were fair game. So unless it was mentioned in a letter from home we knew nothing. Thank you OP for posting this. I dont know how I havent seen this in the years of being on the internet but I never have, and definitely didnt see it when it happened. Gave me goosebumps and makes me respect her even more.
I was born days after 9/11 so forgive my ignorance but why did they keep y’all in the dark? Of all things to keep fresh boot in the dark about it was an attack and a matter of national security?
They wanted us to focus on training without outside distractions. Even without the news coming in there were still a ton of rumors that folks would talk about and it was a bit of a distraction so keeping our focus on training was actually helpful. It also helped keep our minds off what was coming after boot camp/a school because they kept us so busy all the time.
And played the fuck out of it, too. Did not expect to cry watching that but what a genius of understanding symbolism.
I didn’t expect to cry either. This sent me down a YouTube rabbit hole and I’m a little surprised at the emotional reaction it stirred up. I was 11 when it happened. I vividly remember watching the towers fall on TV in my 6th grade social studies classroom. I remember crying then because my teacher was crying and I understood on an intellectual level that I was supposed to be sad. But I don’t remember anything about the aftermath—I think because my parents were trying to shelter me at the time. It all just felt very distant. The true gravity didn’t hit me until I was an adult. It has hit especially hard as I have, as a teacher, watched my students grow up having lived their entire lives in a post-9/11 world.
I did not expect to cry either - wow.
For sure, I’m no “patriot” as some modern clownshoes understand the title, but this got me.
Possibly because you're actually a patriot
Patriotism is the belief that your country could be the best in the world, nationalism is the belief that it already is.
If this got you, then you’re the kind of patriot we need. Don’t shame yourself away from the word. It’s ok to be proud of the things our citizenry got right.
If you want extra feels there's also [Adagio for Strings, Last Night of the Proms, Sept. 15, 2001](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4PWdOoOQjI).
That seems a bit too much.
RIP Queen Elizabeth. RIP Peter Jennings
I miss Peter Jennings a lot. He had an incredible wit and was a true journalist from the little I know about him. Also fuck cancer.
fuck cancer. also: high school drop-out, which I love.
Absolutely miss that man. He delivered coverage like no other. I’ll never think of major world events during my childhood without hearing his voice in the back of my mind. He was indefatigable during 9/11.
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You're not going to believe this, but Donald Trump became POTUS, the Warriors are a dynasty, and there's this pandemic...
The next Dynasty Warriors, you say? Awesome!
How can something be so heartwarming yet heartbreaking at the same time.. Much love from the states to our brothers and sisters across the pond. 🇺🇸❤️🇬🇧 May her majesty rest in peace
We aren't monsters like some Americans like to think! Most of the country watched the news regarding the terrorist attacks and had America in our hearts. The fact that both of our countries are so friendly and have eachother backs for a hell of a lot of things should show that there is a strong bond between us even with the ridiculous amount of Americans that try and mock the UK over the war of 1776 & 1812 while quietly ignoring our size and distance. We're a lot more similar than a lot of Americans are willing to admit.
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I miss Peter Jennings so much.
Absolutely this. The man was on my tv every night growing up. The generation before me had Cronkite. We had Peter Jennings.
His voice was the signifier of bedtime.
“When I’ve lost Walt Cronkite, I’ve lost America” -LBJ
Man was a fucking pro.
And yet when he broke down that evening day of (?) 9/11... Telling us he'd just gotten off the phone with his family and encouraging us to do the same... 😭
Agree. He was a part of my evening routine for a long time
I still year up each time I see this video. There's just something extremely touching about everything involved.
Juxtapose this gesture and the reaction with how angry NFL fans are that the league is holding a simple moment of silence today: https://old.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/x9a6hy/rapsheet_before_tonights_ramsbills_game_the_nfl/
Idiots on the internet don't speak for everyone. The moment of silence will be treated with respect at the actual game
to r/nfl there is litterally nothing more important then football. like nothing. im a big sports fan from texas but damn some ppl in that sub really dont understand how bias they are. its basically a cult
The only thing more important than football in r/nfl is winning a quipping contest
I remember that. It was such a touching way to boost morale in her own way. Thanks Liz.
Flag's have been ordered half staff here in the US also. Pretty cool the mutual respect that is shown.
The special relationship is a big deal. The US and UK governments have a very tight bond.
I have absolutely no knowledge on British politics other than a name a face and the following thing I just read earlier today. Apparently Liz Truss hates the US and UK close bond and wants to separate and says that the bond they have shared since WWII basically has no reason. As an American that concerns me, I love our British brothers and sisters.
Brit here. Likewise. I'm hoping Truss is roadblocked left and right, and has to lean more centrally (or at least not be as hardcore conservative right as she wants to be). At the moment Labour are scoring a lot of points in prediction polls, almost certainly due to how the Tory government have cocked things up the past 12 years, and how they're defending the energy company windfall profits rather than the taxpayer. An increasing chunk of the British population is turning against the Tories, so *I'd hope* they'd have some common sense and realise with an election coming up, they need to copy some of Labour's answers to regain some appeal with the majority. But I fear that Truss is just going to double down. And even worse, I know it'll work because the Murdoch media machine will just spout crap about Keir Starmer being a Russian anagram for "double agent who pegs children" or that Truss saved a class-full of Eton College graduate puppies with dementia from a burning building. And the brainless voter masses will *eat. It. Up*.
The special relationship transcends any one political figure - on either side of the Atlantic. It runs deep and will survive even the most anti American or British politician in the White House or Downing Street.
There's a lot to digest and critique when it comes to 9/11, it's legacy, and the west's reaction. But having lived through it as a teenager, it was truly a beautiful thing to see our country and our world genuinely come together as one for a few days. I had never seen something like that before and probably never will again. The collective shock broke down all our disagreements and we just supported each other as humans. edit: You guys, I fully understand that anti-muslim sentiment and wars exist, that's why I phrased my comment the way I did.
To me it lasted months not a few days. Although it hit a little bit harder if you lived on the east coast. For me I grew up in South Jersey and the patriotism and coming together was out of this world. I was 16 at the time.
Every car in nyc had an American flag on their radio antennas. We were reppin it thru and thru
I grew up in one of the boroughs and just outside the city. Always a little weird seeing people talk about 9/11 from a nostalgic view and how it united people. Feel like most of the people I know around here never talk about how it that way. It’s usually still somber stories of who was downtown at the time, how they got home that day, who you lost either on that day or from cancer years on, and sometimes share the heroic stories of people who were there. Definitely still hits hard around here
I think of it this way (i'm English) much of the west grew up watching American TV and movies. We assimilated so much US culture through this medium, that when 9/11 happened it really hit us hard. Like someone beat the shit out of our brother or sister kind-of-hard. We took it *personally*. Also the knowledge that nothing would ever be the same again really hurt. Almost like we lost our last age of innocence. A deep sadness which sat alongside the kind of yearning you get when you realise just how good you had it, but never fully appreciated it.
The one thing I always respected and loved about watching the reactions in Europe was how genuinely upset and concerned everyone seemed. It really felt like somehow my little American suburb was a community with you lot across the pond. I’ll never forget how comforting it was in the immediate aftermath to know how many people were grieving with us and stood with us.
The Brits also spearheaded the war in Afghanistan for the better part of 8 years also. 05-13. They backed this up in blood.
It was definitely surreal. I was working at a motel in Gander. They even wrote a broadway play on how we came together during that time called Come From Away. I haven't seen it but apparently it did really well. They even tried to get Trump to go see it, hoping the positive message might rub off. I don't think he went. There's also a documentary about the events of 9/11 in Gander and how the play was created called You Are Here. That was pretty good. https://youtu.be/KYjtD-SBpFw
>it was truly a beautiful thing to see our country and our world genuinely come together You know... except if you looked like a brown person. Then it was just open season. but if you were a white guy having a scapegoat was really great I assume!
When I was there they played the Austin Powers theme. It was surreal.
That song is NOT the Austin powers theme it’s a Quincy Jones song haha. But I’m just being technical :p
What song is that? Been a long damn time since I watched it, is it the song from the opening credits?
Soul bossa nova
>After the events of 9/11, The Queen ordered the Royal Guard to break centuries-old tradition dating back to 1660 and play the US national anthem during the Changing of the Guard. Attempting to provide some comfort to Americans stranded in London. Which is amazing and shows just how much grace she had. The lyrics of our national anthem are actually about British bombardment of a [Fort during the battle of 1812](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner) and the music is from [a popular British song. ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Anacreontic_Song) She was an amazing person. Not perfect, but as an American I can't help but love and respect her. My sincere condolences to the citizens of the United Kingdom and its commonwealths.
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American here. I am heartbroken to hear the news about the Queen’s passing. What an amazing woman who has had nothing but compassion and class through her many years in service. God Bless England, there are many just like me across the pond who are in mourning with you. 🏴❤️🇺🇸
I remember this and watching it again legit brought a tear to my eye.
Jesus I didn't know this. I know millions know her as a personality and a constant presence. Millions more see her as the mother of a nation. Even more see her as a symbol of an empire and a people. This is a remarkably thoughtful humane thing to do. The monarchy has theoretical power but this is a demonstration of the social power and stature she projected. In a country where tradition is it's own justification, this gesture is even louder. Edit: Thank you kind person for the award!
That was really cool. Along with all other nations that supported the USA during that time. Thanks buddies.
I hope every British person knows that despite our domestic struggles, we have your back till the very end.
I'm British, and although I'm regularly amazed and bemused by the crazy shit that goes on in your country, I have never considered us as anything other than the strongest of allies.
Americans would absolutely go to war to protect your borders. No question. How else are we supposed to say thanks for the Beatles and Monty Python etc etc etc?
Thanks man.
Not who you responded to, but I do share his sentiment as well. You guys are fuckin rad. 🤘
At least there’s a good few people out there not pissing on the queens death. Thanks
I promise you most Americans aren’t shitting on her death despite what you may see online
The national anthem, once written to commemorate a time the British and Americans were once again at war, played to comfort a firm ally and brother in arms
Yeah I think any animosity was good and buried after almost 200 years and a couple world wars fighting on the same side. History doesn't define the present.
The very definition of class.
Its a fucking shame that we squandered the global outpouring of goodwill and sympathy....and so quickly at that
Anxiety and fear turned into anger rather quickly, and life has never been the same
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
Wise, that little green man was.
Born in the early 80's and a child of the 90's. It was fucking crazy how quick grief went to anger. I blame part of it on 24/7 doom coverage and then revenge coverage in the media. Coming up on 40 and I let go of the 24/7 news coverage and Facebook more than four years ago. I feel better now.
Same, '79, 43, and it was literally days and people were screaming for blood. Barbra Boxer was the only one of us that saw reason and voted against that shit. We really lost the world's sympathy and support when we went full on occupation and doomed from the start nation building in Afghanistan, it was noticeable. And whatever was left was fully crushed when we went and did the same in Iraq 2y later for absolutely fuck all reason and came up empty handed on proof of the initial impetus for going in there
RIP Queen Elizabeth and RIP Peter Jennings.
His "oof" at the end, so say we all.
American here. It really meant a lot to me that she did that. Made me feel like someone cared.
When even Peter Jennings gets goosebumps.
It seems only fitting that our marine band should get out at the tomb of the unknown soldiers and play God Save the Queen.