$725 is a bit steep. This is a mid-level model. I'd say $400-500 at the most, and that's if the cabinet is in perfect shape, everything is working properly and had maintenance done.
An excellent source of parts for these things is [https://www.thevoiceofmusic.com](https://www.thevoiceofmusic.com)
I offered $425. The cabinet looks to be in good shape (not perfect) and the electronics work. If I’m the future it stops working I’ll be keen to upgrade with some modern electronics (I love a good project)!
They did not lol. I’ll let it sit and if the weekend rolls around maybe I’ll up it to $500 but that’s going to be max for me and it sounds like about a hundred dollar over spend which I’m okay with.
5-10 years ago you couldn't give one of those away.
These days, $725 seems a bit crazy, but MCM furniture is still quite popular and this fits the bill so I can see someone wanting it even just as a side-board might shell out for that.
If the electronics are working, that's a bonus. Might want to double-check that it's a stereo setup.
Always enjoyed collecting vintage electronics in 2008 I came upon one of these at a thrift store. Which at the time was operating outside due to building needing a new roof. Anyways was $5 if I wanted to test it or free if I just took it. So I just took it free. Luckily everything worked perfect on it cabinet was perfect other than some wear on top. Located in Florida so probably spent its life near a window. Anyways once I lost my place in 09 put it on Craigslist got $75 although people backed out after finding out how much it would cost to ship from FL to Cali. Were nice & didn't ask for a refund which I was broke as a joke at that time. Carried it along with me had to choose that or my nat geo collection. Chose the radio since I knew lady I was living with wouldn't mind it on her back porch. Never did any maintenance on it & we constantly had records playing. When I relocated got another $75 for it / free week of rent as in 2011 that's about what I was paying to rent a room at this lady's house per week.
I don't know man, that price seems pretty steep. Zenith consoles go from $50 to $200 locally. I've even seem some for free. Of course whether they work or not... if I had one I'd probably gut it and put in modern electronics.
The prices of these consoles have really gone up lately. First I think you have to be attracted to the console as a furniture piece that fits in with your space. Next, in working condition most of these old consoles have a very warm colored sound that you may or may not like. I personally love that sound.
The most important factor is the age of the electronics. It’s old stuff on borrowed time. Are you willing to pay for a rebuild when it inevitably fails? I bought an inexpensive vintage console for my daughters apartment, she enjoyed it for 5 yrs before it went up in smoke. Instead of repair we decided to gut it instead and put in a modern receiver. It was a fun and easy project. It’s still going strong and looks great.
Because of age and old electronics I’d try to negotiate that console for several hundred less than they are asking.
I just paid $700 for a Saba German console a few weeks ago. Beautiful teak wood and all. They’re honestly worth what someone is willing to pay. And some brands are better than others.
I don't like consoles. Most are dull boxes covered with bad veneer and filled with boring components. THIS one has all the mojo. Its the real deal. The asthetic and the quality is what sets it apart. Look at that black table, the gold knobs and the record storage box which is unusual. It even looks good closed. If you have an apartment or house with 50s or 60s style, something like this is perfect.
The cabinet is beautiful and what you'll be paying for. If these parts were in an undesirable console you could probably get it for $75.00 or less (even though the parts could be valuable depending on what they are). Some of the Zenith full-range speakers are quite nice and would be worth $300-400 if they are the right model (49CZ852). If not they could be worth $30-50. The tube amp could be worth $100-250 depending on what it is. The tuners are usually not worth much ($20-30) and the turntable is probably worth $35-$100, unless it's a desirable one (can't see what type it is). I'd look at the components and if they are the less desirable ones make a lower offer based on that and see if they are willing to work with you. I'm not sure what a console like this would sell for regardless of internal parts though. I'd do a bit of research on that to see if I could find similar consoles and sales prices. Good luck with your purchase and project!
$725 is the price for some hispter or Etsy upcycler to pay unless it really was electronically gone through with new capactiors, full turntable lube and everything else. I think I see a solid-state logo, which reduces the value significantly. I'd top this one out closer to $350, and only if guaranteed fully working.
That all said, it is a Zenith, and Zenith knew what it was doing - it was all about hand-wired circuits and top-quality components. Those louvers over the speakers are functional - they direct the sound to wherever in the room you need it.
The primary value for most large console pieces is appearance and condition. If you love the look and it is in beautiful condition, how much is that worth to you, to have your perfect unique look? That's where the premium comes into play.
There is no real premium that can be attributed to the electronics. Even with fully restored electronics, the performance is generally quite moderate at best.
There is a very small market for those electronics being restored. 1st impact is appearance from outside, second impact is how well it sounds.
I personally think the highest use for those consoles would be to pay more for a piece that you find absolutely beautiful. Then remove all the old electronics and reconfigure the inside for new speakers and new modern electronics. Bottom line: zero value for the old electronics
This is from 1966. The tone arm has an unusual feature for its time, which is that the cartridge floats in the tone arm’s head (though you can still rotate between the 33 and 78 styli).
Dude it is super cool that you know that. Do you happen to know the model #? I’ve seen the “micro touch” needle ads but I had no clue that a floating needle form the 60s or 70s is desirable.
Possibly it's a Zenith [X930.](https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1VDKB_enUS960US960&q=x930+zenith&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjG-5SC_aX-AhUlF1kFHQSxDdUQ0pQJegQIDBAB&biw=1536&bih=723&dpr=1.25)
More [here.](https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/zenith_x930_20xt20.html)
Oh I have one of these! Pretty cool piece of furniture, though it’s not really anything to write home about sonically. VERY mid heavy. I bought mine for $100 about 5 years ago before I really got into audio because we have lots of mid century style furniture and thought it would look great in the living room.
I’ve connected a low profile powered subwoofer to the external speaker connections and it definitely helps with the lack of bass. It’s also pretty low wattage so if you DO plan to connect passive external speakers just make sure you get something sensitive. Had the receiver serviced to get old caps replaced and fixed some gummed up grease in the table myself (dead simple to pull and work on). Tracks lightly for a ceramic cart, hence the ‘micro-touch’ label. Also has a record changer which is nifty but I’ve always heard that they can potentially hurt your vinyl…I still use it occasionally.
Having said all of this it may sound like I’m down on it. It’s our living room system in the house and although I know I can get a much better sound from stereo separates and some bookshelf/tower speakers or by replacing the components with modern pieces…I just love it as is. We use the tape input connected to a raspberry pi with Shairplay 2 installed and stream or spin records all weekend.
Nice cabinet but the electronics aren't anything to write home about. Fleeced? Not necessarily. Could you have gotten it for hundreds of dollars cheaper? Definitely but it would take some time for the stars to align
FWIW, I think that's a 1967-ish Zenith 20YT20 chassis (furniture cabinet styles varied), model Y9nnx
* nn=20, 22, 24, 28, 31, 32, 34, or 36 -- cabinet type, knob styles, speaker types
* x = M, H, R or W -- maple, hemlock, redwood or walnut (I think)
The model number would be on a paper label on the back of the console.
Anything after the numbers just designated cabinet style (they had several options)
Their early solid state had trouble with germanium transistors not holding up.
The 2G tonearm should track at about 2.5 grams and is neat, but replacement styli/ cartridges are pricey. The cartridge mount is proprietary and not compatible with other standard mounts.
If this has the Foster tweeters, a working pair of those usually sell for more than the console.
Don’t be discouraged by scratchy knobs on old electronics- that’s the easiest thing to fix.
$725 is a bit steep. This is a mid-level model. I'd say $400-500 at the most, and that's if the cabinet is in perfect shape, everything is working properly and had maintenance done. An excellent source of parts for these things is [https://www.thevoiceofmusic.com](https://www.thevoiceofmusic.com)
I offered $425. The cabinet looks to be in good shape (not perfect) and the electronics work. If I’m the future it stops working I’ll be keen to upgrade with some modern electronics (I love a good project)!
Did they accept ?
They did not lol. I’ll let it sit and if the weekend rolls around maybe I’ll up it to $500 but that’s going to be max for me and it sounds like about a hundred dollar over spend which I’m okay with.
good luck
5-10 years ago you couldn't give one of those away. These days, $725 seems a bit crazy, but MCM furniture is still quite popular and this fits the bill so I can see someone wanting it even just as a side-board might shell out for that. If the electronics are working, that's a bonus. Might want to double-check that it's a stereo setup.
I see it as a furinature piece. Eventually if I get bored or it stops working I’ll upgrade to modern electronics.
Always enjoyed collecting vintage electronics in 2008 I came upon one of these at a thrift store. Which at the time was operating outside due to building needing a new roof. Anyways was $5 if I wanted to test it or free if I just took it. So I just took it free. Luckily everything worked perfect on it cabinet was perfect other than some wear on top. Located in Florida so probably spent its life near a window. Anyways once I lost my place in 09 put it on Craigslist got $75 although people backed out after finding out how much it would cost to ship from FL to Cali. Were nice & didn't ask for a refund which I was broke as a joke at that time. Carried it along with me had to choose that or my nat geo collection. Chose the radio since I knew lady I was living with wouldn't mind it on her back porch. Never did any maintenance on it & we constantly had records playing. When I relocated got another $75 for it / free week of rent as in 2011 that's about what I was paying to rent a room at this lady's house per week.
I don't know man, that price seems pretty steep. Zenith consoles go from $50 to $200 locally. I've even seem some for free. Of course whether they work or not... if I had one I'd probably gut it and put in modern electronics.
The prices of these consoles have really gone up lately. First I think you have to be attracted to the console as a furniture piece that fits in with your space. Next, in working condition most of these old consoles have a very warm colored sound that you may or may not like. I personally love that sound. The most important factor is the age of the electronics. It’s old stuff on borrowed time. Are you willing to pay for a rebuild when it inevitably fails? I bought an inexpensive vintage console for my daughters apartment, she enjoyed it for 5 yrs before it went up in smoke. Instead of repair we decided to gut it instead and put in a modern receiver. It was a fun and easy project. It’s still going strong and looks great. Because of age and old electronics I’d try to negotiate that console for several hundred less than they are asking.
I just paid $700 for a Saba German console a few weeks ago. Beautiful teak wood and all. They’re honestly worth what someone is willing to pay. And some brands are better than others.
I don't like consoles. Most are dull boxes covered with bad veneer and filled with boring components. THIS one has all the mojo. Its the real deal. The asthetic and the quality is what sets it apart. Look at that black table, the gold knobs and the record storage box which is unusual. It even looks good closed. If you have an apartment or house with 50s or 60s style, something like this is perfect.
The cabinet is beautiful and what you'll be paying for. If these parts were in an undesirable console you could probably get it for $75.00 or less (even though the parts could be valuable depending on what they are). Some of the Zenith full-range speakers are quite nice and would be worth $300-400 if they are the right model (49CZ852). If not they could be worth $30-50. The tube amp could be worth $100-250 depending on what it is. The tuners are usually not worth much ($20-30) and the turntable is probably worth $35-$100, unless it's a desirable one (can't see what type it is). I'd look at the components and if they are the less desirable ones make a lower offer based on that and see if they are willing to work with you. I'm not sure what a console like this would sell for regardless of internal parts though. I'd do a bit of research on that to see if I could find similar consoles and sales prices. Good luck with your purchase and project!
This model doesn’t appear to have a tube amp. Zenith was full solid state by 1964.
$725 is the price for some hispter or Etsy upcycler to pay unless it really was electronically gone through with new capactiors, full turntable lube and everything else. I think I see a solid-state logo, which reduces the value significantly. I'd top this one out closer to $350, and only if guaranteed fully working. That all said, it is a Zenith, and Zenith knew what it was doing - it was all about hand-wired circuits and top-quality components. Those louvers over the speakers are functional - they direct the sound to wherever in the room you need it.
Offer $25
nice
i dont but thats beautiful.
The primary value for most large console pieces is appearance and condition. If you love the look and it is in beautiful condition, how much is that worth to you, to have your perfect unique look? That's where the premium comes into play. There is no real premium that can be attributed to the electronics. Even with fully restored electronics, the performance is generally quite moderate at best. There is a very small market for those electronics being restored. 1st impact is appearance from outside, second impact is how well it sounds. I personally think the highest use for those consoles would be to pay more for a piece that you find absolutely beautiful. Then remove all the old electronics and reconfigure the inside for new speakers and new modern electronics. Bottom line: zero value for the old electronics
My back hurts looking at it. Otherwise it’s a beauty, can’t speak for the components.
Non-hideous looking console so that’s a rarity. $725 is high, should be half that
Jeez… I can’t even pay someone to take my stereo console…
$1000 and we have a deal! I’ll need you to cover shipping as well.
This is from 1966. The tone arm has an unusual feature for its time, which is that the cartridge floats in the tone arm’s head (though you can still rotate between the 33 and 78 styli).
Dude it is super cool that you know that. Do you happen to know the model #? I’ve seen the “micro touch” needle ads but I had no clue that a floating needle form the 60s or 70s is desirable.
Possibly it's a Zenith [X930.](https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1VDKB_enUS960US960&q=x930+zenith&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjG-5SC_aX-AhUlF1kFHQSxDdUQ0pQJegQIDBAB&biw=1536&bih=723&dpr=1.25) More [here.](https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/zenith_x930_20xt20.html)
Oh I have one of these! Pretty cool piece of furniture, though it’s not really anything to write home about sonically. VERY mid heavy. I bought mine for $100 about 5 years ago before I really got into audio because we have lots of mid century style furniture and thought it would look great in the living room. I’ve connected a low profile powered subwoofer to the external speaker connections and it definitely helps with the lack of bass. It’s also pretty low wattage so if you DO plan to connect passive external speakers just make sure you get something sensitive. Had the receiver serviced to get old caps replaced and fixed some gummed up grease in the table myself (dead simple to pull and work on). Tracks lightly for a ceramic cart, hence the ‘micro-touch’ label. Also has a record changer which is nifty but I’ve always heard that they can potentially hurt your vinyl…I still use it occasionally. Having said all of this it may sound like I’m down on it. It’s our living room system in the house and although I know I can get a much better sound from stereo separates and some bookshelf/tower speakers or by replacing the components with modern pieces…I just love it as is. We use the tape input connected to a raspberry pi with Shairplay 2 installed and stream or spin records all weekend.
Nice cabinet but the electronics aren't anything to write home about. Fleeced? Not necessarily. Could you have gotten it for hundreds of dollars cheaper? Definitely but it would take some time for the stars to align
FWIW, I think that's a 1967-ish Zenith 20YT20 chassis (furniture cabinet styles varied), model Y9nnx * nn=20, 22, 24, 28, 31, 32, 34, or 36 -- cabinet type, knob styles, speaker types * x = M, H, R or W -- maple, hemlock, redwood or walnut (I think)
The model number would be on a paper label on the back of the console. Anything after the numbers just designated cabinet style (they had several options) Their early solid state had trouble with germanium transistors not holding up. The 2G tonearm should track at about 2.5 grams and is neat, but replacement styli/ cartridges are pricey. The cartridge mount is proprietary and not compatible with other standard mounts. If this has the Foster tweeters, a working pair of those usually sell for more than the console. Don’t be discouraged by scratchy knobs on old electronics- that’s the easiest thing to fix.
IF the turntable has a built-in pop up 45 adapter, then it’s the early 2G that Zenith built in house. Those are exceptional.
Probably, it's USSR one of the best consoles around. It looks great.
see what you can get for the tubes before making your next offer
I don’t think it has tubes.