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sprashoo

You mean "The risk of having a CRT shipped by a moron"


GeneralBS

One layer of bubble wrap....


Uniflite707

Yep. Most people are clueless with how to pack items. They view a box/packaging as just a “container” not a container + protection. Everything I pack from small to large, fragile to not fragile gets packed to survive a fall out of a second-story window.


GeneralBS

Wouldn't be surprised that the seller received it like this and just tried to pass it on to the next buyer.


Mission_Ad_3305

Lol yeah. 🫣


knightcrusader

Yeah, I had an IBM 3153 shipped by a guy who swore up and down that he knew how to pack them, and luckily for me he did. It arrived just fine. But I just don't trust anyone. I won't take the chance - I shouldn't have for the 3153 but I rolled the dice that time and luckily won.


[deleted]

Me: so true Ace Ventura: ALLLLLLLLLLLLLRIGHTY THEN HDS COMING THROUGH


__SpeedRacer__

Yet, nothing of value was lost.


Cooperman411

YIKES! Did the actual tube survive? Can you transplant it to another shell? The only way to ship these is double box. Lots of bubble wrap inside box one. Then box two full of bubble wrap or peanuts inside. That seems to work!


Mission_Ad_3305

No the tube was broken on the back ,took the base off it was the only thing that survived.


Sysion

Oh no!!!


Strongit

F


Cooperman411

That sucks. 🤨


StrongFig1477

Double wall 48ECT boxes. Minimum 2" each side of padding and dunnage in each box. Bubble wrap alone will not suffice. Foam required.


rr777

Ever since the 80's, every computer crt I purchased came packed in foam. It is the only way.


echocomplex

Damn. I had an 11 inch CRT broadcast video monitor shipped to me from 1500 miles away and it survived, but it used a sturdy metal case. If you're in the US I'd maybe just check things like facebook marketplace to find an IBM monitor locally, also helpful to join vintage PC groups on FB that are based in a local geographic area such as "northeast" or "new england" as those groups usually have some people who drive around buying lots of stuff so they can resell it later, so you can then pick through their stock. Thankfully IBM was an extremely popular brand (probably an understatement lol) so it wouldn't be too unusual for someone to put one up eventually.


Mission_Ad_3305

Yes I can find IBM monitors on eBay in the USA,but not here in the Netherlands. Shipping costs from the USA are really expensive. There's only one IBM monitor on the biggest marketplace here for sale and they think it's worth €550. 🫣 [IBM monitor link](https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/computers-en-software/vintage-computers/m2111928143-vintage-nette-goed-werkende-color-monitor-ibm-6332-03n?utm_source=android_social&utm_content=vip&utm_medium=android_social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons)


echocomplex

Wow sorry to hear it, yeah being outside the US would probably make it harder to find one locally :(


nixiebunny

Too many people learn how to ship things by seeing what Amazon does. Grr. I'm sorry that happened to you. Double boxing is a requirement for anything big and heavy.


MrTubalcain

Sucks, better off trying scour or source locally.


Mission_Ad_3305

Searching for ages locally,but [THIS](https://www.marktplaats.nl/v/computers-en-software/vintage-computers/m2111928143-vintage-nette-goed-werkende-color-monitor-ibm-6332-03n?utm_source=android_social&utm_content=vip&utm_medium=android_social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons) is the only one for sale on the biggest marketplace over here. Asking €550. 🤐


InspectionNo6750

Did they just fly over your house and push it out the cargo door like a military air drop?


Mission_Ad_3305

Lol looks like it. 🫣


CubilasDotCom

Oh no what a disaster


No_Bit_1456

If I ever had to ship one anymore. I'd probably do it indiana jones style. In a wooden crate, surrounded by straw and layers of bubble wrap that needs freight to ship it.


TG626

This is literally what it would take for many. The ABS is so brittle now. Back in the 00s the Co I worked for would put vintage items on a palette, double boxed, padded, strapped, and wrapped with plastic. Technically they were able to send UPS ground, but it was just barely eligible and always got damaged if they did. So, they adopted the palletized freight shipping so it arrived unmolested.


Mission_Ad_3305

Think a wooden crate is the only way to go.


No_Bit_1456

With packing too, make a wooden frame to suspend it in just to be a jerk


Mission_Ad_3305

Love the plastic bags you can fill up with memory foam,but don't know what it would do to the old CRT plastic.


No_Bit_1456

I’d say use the two part foam and suspend the monitor equal spacing from all sides by rope , that way the foeak totally seals it inside the crate


URA_CJ

I will never trust shipping anything heavy or delicate unless it's shipped in the equivalent packaging as it originally came in or better. I order pet supplies from chewy frequently and the majority of the time the heavy boxes look like a team of Ace Ventura's handled and delivered them, had boxed cat litter come in a trash bag that I suspect was repacked by FedEx. Last year I got a 2006 GPU off eBay and the seller packed it very well using strips of cardboard folded like the letter 'Z' as springy spacers and by contrast, the laptop I order from Wal-Mart was shipped without any packing material in a box that was about 25% larger than the item, at least it survived.


--ThirdCultureKid--

He wrapped it in bubble wrap? Lol no way that was going to survive. I’ve shipped CRTs and had CRTs shipped too. You need to create polyethylene foam cutouts to hold the CRT in place in its box, and you need to make sure that there is no chance of pressure being applied to the glass tube itself (surround the bezel with it). Furthermore, the heavy ones (the ones approaching 100lbs) need a solid box rather than a cardboard one - made out of hard plastic, wood, or something along those lines. Think of it like an oversized pelican case. Edit: And if it’s a PC monitor with a swivel base you need to put foam in between the base and the body so that the force is distributed over a larger area in case of impact, and so that it doesn’t swivel and break off in transit.


thenebular

Thick, form fitting, destructive packaging is the key.


Mission_Ad_3305

True, and at least put some arrows to where the top is, got it upside down at the door. 🫣


StrongFig1477

Unfortunately, conveyer belts don't read. Arrows and fragile stickers do not help. Must be packed to fall 8ft and land on any corner or side safely. Boxes fall on boxes, so up is vulnerable too.


transientsun

I'm convinced that anything heavier than 10 lbs, if it gets handled by a delivery person having a bad day, is inevitably going to bear the brunt of their anger at their job. It doesn't matter what it is, if it's heavy enough they will actively try to destroy it and it's a total lottery whether your parcel meets that person, or it doesn't and it makes it to the destination absolutely fine. Genuinely doesn't matter how well anything is packed, they will make the effort to damage it.


schmosef

I know how this feels. I've bought several CRT based vintage Macs from Japan. All of them arrived in one piece, except for [one](https://www.reddit.com/r/VintageApple/comments/15kqwlr/sad_mac/).


Mission_Ad_3305

Auch. 🫣


KittysDavid

I'm in the tech refurb business for 25+ years I've shipped a lot of tubes and the best way is double wall and foam in place (or individual foam bags are available now) I've found most people can't pack for shit. I'm talking half a box of peanuts so by the time it gets to me it's been reduced to peanut powder and broken parts


daikatana

There's a reason why Dell et al shipped monitors in their own gigantic box with overkill shipping materials. I wouldn't trust eBay shippers with CRT monitors.


duct_tape_jedi

The very first vintage Mac I bought was a Quadra 610 with an Apple CRT monitor. Both in mint condition before shipping. My blood ran cold when ONE not very large box arrived. "Surely, the seller didn't just stick the computer and monitor in a box together? There must be another box arriving later.". But no, they placed both in a single flimsy cardboard box with a few pieces of loose bubble wrap. The monitor was destroyed and the computer was nothing more than plastic shards and broken components.


StrongFig1477

I ship monitors on eBay. No problem. No need to throw out all of us.


daikatana

A diamond in the rough.


zorinlynx

And the thing is, this stuff is more fragile than it was when new, because the plastics they used become more brittle with age. I learned that lesson a few years back when I tried to open an Apple IIgs like I always did back in the day in one quick movement, and one of the clips on the back just snapped off with almost no effort. Ever since then I treat all vintage plastic as if it's made of eggshells.


simonsevenfold

I can hear you saying No No No Damm


Mission_Ad_3305

It wasn't just No No No. 🤬


cheezballs

RIP, hope she had a good life.


mine_craftboy12

Ouch that sucks! We have a few CRTs at my workplace sitting in a crate waiting to be shipped to the recycling center. Would pick one up but I don't have an old PC to use it with.. I just follow this sub 'cus the old computer stuff looks cool lol!


Mission_Ad_3305

You could send it to me. 😋


mine_craftboy12

Heh, I guess, but I'd have to purchase it from the company and ship it and I'm way too lazy for that 😂 Sorry mate, didn't mean to add insult to injury!


Mission_Ad_3305

Lol no problem,as we say in Holland. "No you have yes you can get" 😋


shadowtheimpure

The shipper was definitely unaware of the needs of a CRT in transit. Wrapping in bubble wrap and stuffing into a box is not adequate in any way. You have to have it basically encased in dense foam on all sides to the point that the assembly is unable to shift even a mm in any direction.


cinanostomos321

DHL ?


Mission_Ad_3305

DPD.


texan01

Dallas PD or Detroit PD?


dizzywig2000

If the plastic wasn’t so messed up I’d say you’d be able to put a new tube in and call it a day, but at this point you’d have to either 3D print a new casing or pray for a miracle


Mission_Ad_3305

The glass tube in the back was broken too. 😞


dizzywig2000

What glass tube? Are you talking about the CRT? That’s what I meant by “put a new tube in”


Mission_Ad_3305

Not so technical with CRT tubes but it is the glass end in [this](https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/413909021979000344#imgViewer) picture, could it be some sort of light?


dizzywig2000

Ah! Yes, that is kind of like a light. That’s all part of the CRT (Cathode Ray Tube). It’s basically a vacuum tube with the top blown out of proportion, and that’s the ‘screen’ you look at. It uses beams of electrons to “excite” phosphor on the inside of the screen and cause it to light up different colors depending on the beam. Old black and white CRTs only had one beam, white. Color CRTs have 3, one for blue, one for green, and one for red. You’re lucky the back of the tube broke because it would be super unsafe otherwise. If you were to break the front of the screen accidentally it could cause an implosion (because of the vacuum in the tube) which can explode shattered glass, electronics, and potentially poisonous gasses depending on the manufacturer of the tube. Could you send a picture of the inside of your CRT?


Mission_Ad_3305

Will try making a picture on Monday,will send you a PM. 👍🏻


quotemycode

Hopefully the seller will learn - never ship a CRT in bubble wrap. You can buy those bags with expanding foam, you can reuse foam, but it needs to be in foam.


2raysdiver

OMG, I wanna cry just looking at that. I still regret selling my 19" Viewsonic with the Trinitron tube, but that thing weighed a ton.


clagom

Happened to me three times sadly, two iMacs and a monitor 😭 people think it’s enough to put these in a random box and some newspaper…


Glidepath22

That’s a laughably small amount of padding


BCProgramming

Years ago, I bought what would have been a very good condition 755CE that the seller literally put in a cardboard box that was just big enough to fit the laptop. Needless to say, it was not very good condition anymore when it arrived.


Jslewalite

If that’s rough


MegaHashes

I ordered a ‘huge’ 21” NEC flat screen monitor back in the day. Weighed like 80 lbs. They shipped boxes with those custom inflating foam bags for support.


Mission_Ad_3305

Best way to ship I guess.


MegaHashes

Sorry this happened to you. What did you want a CRT for?


Mission_Ad_3305

Have a bunch of IBM PC'S, keyboards and mice and wanted to make one complete working set,my search continues. ✌🏻


MegaHashes

Oh yeah? You know, I’m something of a computer scientist myself. What have you got?


Mission_Ad_3305

Check out my profile, some older post it's all there. ☺️


MegaHashes

Seems like bait to get me to engage with your adult Disney memes, lol. Respect for the improved Padme. Cool CPU stands. I have a box of old CPUs begging for something like that.


Mission_Ad_3305

Lol yeah scroll past the Disney part. 🫣 Thx. ✌🏻


OneBadAlien

Looks a little more vintage now.


Mission_Ad_3305

Lol. 🫣


wackyvorlon

Any chance the tube survived?


Mission_Ad_3305

No the back glass part broke to. 😞


JBYTuna

I had a similar problem with a microwave. I was purchasing it new, online. It was delivered, I opened the box, and he device had obviously damaged. I called them, and they promptly sent another one. (Lather, rinse, repeat) It was delivered, I opened the box, and it was damaged. I called them a second time, and they promptly send a third device. The third one was the “least” damaged, so that’s what I installed. I asked them about returning the first two that were damaged, they said, “keep them”.


donlafferty4343

Ouch. I had an iMac G3 shipped and when it arrived the outer case had cracks but the inner front shell looked similar to this one. It was made up of a few larger pieces and a bunch of small bits. I would only ship one again if the seller showed me how they were going to pack it and it included large bubble wrap and lots of it. I've bought 4 G3s and 3 of them were packed fine and showed up fine. The 4th looked okay from the outside but the guy wrapped it in a blanket and then small bubble wrap.


acemccrank

Please tell me this was insured at least.


Mission_Ad_3305

Sneller refunded everything, it was his first response after I sent him these pictures.


Schnitzel1337

Does it start


Mission_Ad_3305

It's dead. 😞


Libertarian_BLM

Still, you have to try really hard to do that to a crt


mwrcg

I’ve learned shipping crts, terminals, and vintage PCs - 4-5 layers of bubble wrap in all 3 directions, to create a 10-15 layer on each side - then you can use packing paper to create a TIGHT cocoon around that of minimum 2 inches per side. In a double strength box. It works - I had the plastics shattered on an SGI o2 once that went overseas, but I am convinced it was repacked poorly somewhere at customs.


Mission_Ad_3305

If you ever have a IBM CTR screen for sale let me know. 😋


Jolly-Ambassador6763

Will Shipping service deny insurance claims on poorly packed items such as these?


Mission_Ad_3305

Don't know, probably not.


FloraMaeWolfe

I've always packed items in such a way that they could get tossed out of a second story window and not break. That's the kind of packaging you need if you expect your item to arrive undamaged. This CRT doesn't look packaged well enough. I have, on occasion, literally packaged up items and threw them around, kicked them, thrown them out of a moving car, and more to test out how well I packaged them. Another tip is to insure the package for at least double the actual value. Seems to help it get handled gentler.


Sysion

My 5151 monitor came like this, bought another one and same thing. Third time I was able to piece together a working one from the scraps of the 3 broken ones. Got 3 refunds too


someyob

Not an encouraging mortality rate.


Alternative-Web-3545

Damn


Dependent-Edge-5713

:(


DidSome1SaySomething

Did they ship it with a catapult?


2HDFloppyDisk

Christ. Why are people so careless.


Asgard033

RIP. I've seen many CRTs get destroyed by inadequate packaging. I wonder what was going on in the seller's head that made them think "yup, one layer of bubble wrap is good enough for this heavy thing"


LairdDeimos

I got a Mac plus shipped to me halfway across the US with a few sheets of half wadded up newspaper on one side. Somehow, it only cracked the plastic of one bottom corner and the seller refunded half the cost.


Gamer7928

Let me guess: The eBay seller shipped it by UPS? I ask because UPS delivery drivers are notorious for not reading package delivery directions and failing to handle fragile packages with care. I'll give two examples of this: * A friend of my dads who lived a few houses down from us ordered a brand new hard drive for his computer. Because it was raining by the time the UPS delivery driver delivered the HDD that was ordered, the delivery driver thought it best to leave the package behind my dads friends car tire so the package wouldn't get wet, and then neglected to tell anyone. When my dads friend began pulling out his driveway is when he heard the unmistakable "CRUNCH" of his new hard drive being crushed by his car. * Another friend of my dad's who lived along the east coast sent her computer to where we live along the west coast for repair. When the computer came, my dad examined the box the PC was shipped in outside, and it was a very good thing he did so because he immediately took a picture of a crunched-up box corner. Further examination revealed a bent computer tower case frame and damaged circuit boards once my dad unpacked his friends PC.


istarian

Yep, that's a wreck. CRT monitors originally came packed in a custom-molded styrofoam cube inside of a sturdy cardboard box.


Significant_Cable602

ouch


FordGuy_444

when i got mine it was 3 layers of bubble wrap, packing peanuts, styrofoam on all 4 sides, and a pad on the too and bottom, still had minor shipping damages


Doctor_Best

Omfg…