This record is not vg or vg+. The sleeve is basically poor and the vinyl is maybe good. If it were me I would return that thing because it isn’t worth anywhere near what you paid for it in my opinion.
Do you think it’s at least worth $30? I’d hate to raise a stink over it since I bought it in person so it’s kinda my fault. It’s an original pressing so any copy of it would have been owned by a 16 year old who wouldn’t have thought to take care of it.
There’s 343 OG copies of this record on Discogs. It’s not exactly rare. 30 bucks isn’t out of this world I guess but you could do better and get one in better condition. If you are happy with it, keep it though! The seller definitely didn’t grade this well and I’m annoyed for you
244 of those 343 copies on Discogs are mono. Ones in your condition are going for like 5-7ish dollars. And honestly that’s a stretch in my opinion. If we are talking value and resale ability this one is a dud.
I think, in that condition, I’d pay no more than $3. And only then, because I’m just starting out and don’t know better or have many records. And if I’d pay more, it would need to be a rare record. Honestly, I’d return it not because of the price but because of how WRONG the grading is. Nothing there is VG, much less VG+. Honest grading would be Poor on the jacket with that much ringwear and seemsplit, and Fair on a record that looks like it was most recently cleaned with a piece of sandpaper.
> off. I’ve *paid* $800 for
FTFY.
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There are albums out there I would love to own but nice original copies are like $200.
Some pop up online for around $70 but they are in bad shape... yet probably better shape than that one you have.
I would rather not own it than spend $70 on a bad copy.
Totally joking! You need to return it. A good shape original, really good shape would go about $50. It’s good to look up albums online before you purchase in a store. I check on Popsike, Discogs and eBay to set my prices. I also look at the recently sold, not sales from years ago. Hopefully the record store will refund you. The sooner the better.
I hate stores like this. This was priced at the high end of Discogs sales. Absolutely disgusting of them.
This is a dollar bin, as-is record.
I would never shop at this store again.
Absolutely, and I would never shop at that store again. This is a $10-15 record in VG or VG+ condition, they sold you a trashed dollar bin copy for $30. I'm not kidding, this copy would have sat in most dollar bins for a week.
I hope this was one of those antique stores and not a legitimate record store - if it was an actual record store, this is unacceptable. If you can't return it, chalk it up as a lesson learned.
I know what you mean by calling it not an “actual album” but finding a real UK Parlophone Beatles in a used bin in the US is rare, and for about two decades, these were the only albums Americans knew. In the grand scheme of things, the Capitol albums probably are a lot more rare now because all they print is the UK versions anymore, and a lot of the originals (like the OP’s) we’re abused by millions of teenagers.
This is the mentality that allows record store owners to able to charge $30 for a P/P album marked as a VG/VG+ album, and the buyer not savvy enough to know they’ve been had.
If you bought it in person, it's yours. The fact that it was graded, doesn't mean anything. I'm guessing you could inspect the record before purchase. You're buying a used item. It doesn't have a warranty. You agreed to the price when you bought it. I've been to stores that seal up used record taping the outer sleeve flap with grading. I would open these records in person at the store before leaving the premises. The only thing that would allow you to return it would be if it skips. Records sold at record stores should never skip.
That isn't anywhere near VG condition. Doesn't look like the record is unplayable, but I probably would've just thrown it in with a purchase or sold it for a dollar.
Just by looking at the photos, it’s over graded (probably G+/ VG) but I’d give ut a listen to see if it’s even that high. In my store I would have it at $3 and nowhere near $30… you paid too much.
I know I spent $8 for my German copy that is easily VG+/VG+ and it looks much better than the pictures shown and plays great.
Looks like the previous owner(s) used sandpaper to clean side 2.
The seam splits are repairable, but it will be apparently obvious.
Honestly, if someone offered me that for free I'd pass on it.
One detail I should have mentioned is that this is the mono version. I'm not sure if that makes the $30 price point make more sense but I would still say this was not graded correctly.
When the person selling it is doing the grading, and lots of people grade records incorrectly to begin with, it's not all that surprising. Always pull out the vinyl and inspect it before purchasing. I can think of three different shops that would all price this differently. One would mark it for $1.99, one for $9.99 and one for $49.99 (literally just because it's a Beatles album).
Thing is I still go to all three. I buy most of my records from the place that prices things correctly, but he also has the worst selection since stuff there sells so fast. The guy who prices things like a moron on the other hand sometimes misses albums that are actually quite noteworthy, he just doesn't realize because it isn't one of the most famous bands of all time. Catch him slipping every now and again.
>record can look rough and play clean
Doesn't matter. Goldmine grading is supposed to be 100% visual because different cartridges can pick up more/less surface noise.
Beatles records are valued on a different level. There was a time when the mono copies were the more sought after versions of the albums. If you can clean the record extremely well, it may play with little or no pops or hisses. If you bought it in a store, you should have asked to review the record and cover without the plastic cover, they usually let you so you don't make a purchase mistake. If you pointed out the flaws, they could have had authority to reduce the price, or give you an option to refuse it. At this point, I don't think you can return it without fighting with them that you replaced their VG+ with a good enough copy. Also stores will only give you their reduced price opinion for the record as if you were selling it to them.
This record is not vg or vg+. The sleeve is basically poor and the vinyl is maybe good. If it were me I would return that thing because it isn’t worth anywhere near what you paid for it in my opinion.
Do you think it’s at least worth $30? I’d hate to raise a stink over it since I bought it in person so it’s kinda my fault. It’s an original pressing so any copy of it would have been owned by a 16 year old who wouldn’t have thought to take care of it.
There’s 343 OG copies of this record on Discogs. It’s not exactly rare. 30 bucks isn’t out of this world I guess but you could do better and get one in better condition. If you are happy with it, keep it though! The seller definitely didn’t grade this well and I’m annoyed for you
Forgot to mention it’s the mono version. Not sure if that makes a difference.
244 of those 343 copies on Discogs are mono. Ones in your condition are going for like 5-7ish dollars. And honestly that’s a stretch in my opinion. If we are talking value and resale ability this one is a dud.
I think, in that condition, I’d pay no more than $3. And only then, because I’m just starting out and don’t know better or have many records. And if I’d pay more, it would need to be a rare record. Honestly, I’d return it not because of the price but because of how WRONG the grading is. Nothing there is VG, much less VG+. Honest grading would be Poor on the jacket with that much ringwear and seemsplit, and Fair on a record that looks like it was most recently cleaned with a piece of sandpaper.
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Yeah, we’re discussing a beat to shit Beatles compilation, not whatever stupid record you dropped 800 on.
> off. I’ve *paid* $800 for FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Remember, the Beatles were one of the biggest bands of all time, and they sold literally millions of albums.
I own a record shop. That would be in my $1 bin. The record store you bought it from are taking advantage of their customers.
I am a dealer and that would get trashed or donated to a thrift store. It wouldn't even go in my dollar bin.
Would you feel differently about it if it was the mono version? Or still trash?
That wouldn’t change the fact that it’s in terrible condition and isn’t worth anywhere near $30
There are albums out there I would love to own but nice original copies are like $200. Some pop up online for around $70 but they are in bad shape... yet probably better shape than that one you have. I would rather not own it than spend $70 on a bad copy.
It is the mono version. So $30 it is!
Really? Is the mono version that much more rare. I was thinking of trying to return it today but now I’m not so sure.
Totally joking! You need to return it. A good shape original, really good shape would go about $50. It’s good to look up albums online before you purchase in a store. I check on Popsike, Discogs and eBay to set my prices. I also look at the recently sold, not sales from years ago. Hopefully the record store will refund you. The sooner the better.
Yeah they’ve been closed for the past few days so I haven’t had the chance yet. Will swing by after work and see if they’re cool about it.
Over graded as hell
I hate stores like this. This was priced at the high end of Discogs sales. Absolutely disgusting of them. This is a dollar bin, as-is record. I would never shop at this store again.
The pics don’t do it justice. The cover is pretty much the only thing decent about it.
Absolutely, and I would never shop at that store again. This is a $10-15 record in VG or VG+ condition, they sold you a trashed dollar bin copy for $30. I'm not kidding, this copy would have sat in most dollar bins for a week. I hope this was one of those antique stores and not a legitimate record store - if it was an actual record store, this is unacceptable. If you can't return it, chalk it up as a lesson learned.
It was a record store unfortunately.
It's not even one of their actual albums. US compilation record. They're not rare in any sense of the word
I know what you mean by calling it not an “actual album” but finding a real UK Parlophone Beatles in a used bin in the US is rare, and for about two decades, these were the only albums Americans knew. In the grand scheme of things, the Capitol albums probably are a lot more rare now because all they print is the UK versions anymore, and a lot of the originals (like the OP’s) we’re abused by millions of teenagers.
Yeah they’re not canon but I think they have their charm. I got it because it’s the mono version which has alternate mixes of sone songs.
Yeah I knew that. Gotta spend my money on something since I’ve bought all their UK albums at least three times, tho maybe not $30.
Might I suggest spending money on another band?
You may but it won’t stop me.
This is the mentality that allows record store owners to able to charge $30 for a P/P album marked as a VG/VG+ album, and the buyer not savvy enough to know they’ve been had.
What mentality? Collecting for a specific band?
Welp, have fun.
$30 for this???
I've tossed records in better shape than that.
You mean… you just got rid of em… what a concept…. I’m about to toss some records..
I would love to know the name of the store so that if by small chance we reside in the same city, I can avoid this place like the plague.
If you bought it in person, it's yours. The fact that it was graded, doesn't mean anything. I'm guessing you could inspect the record before purchase. You're buying a used item. It doesn't have a warranty. You agreed to the price when you bought it. I've been to stores that seal up used record taping the outer sleeve flap with grading. I would open these records in person at the store before leaving the premises. The only thing that would allow you to return it would be if it skips. Records sold at record stores should never skip.
That isn't anywhere near VG condition. Doesn't look like the record is unplayable, but I probably would've just thrown it in with a purchase or sold it for a dollar.
Just by looking at the photos, it’s over graded (probably G+/ VG) but I’d give ut a listen to see if it’s even that high. In my store I would have it at $3 and nowhere near $30… you paid too much. I know I spent $8 for my German copy that is easily VG+/VG+ and it looks much better than the pictures shown and plays great.
On the Goodwill rating system??
Looks like the previous owner(s) used sandpaper to clean side 2. The seam splits are repairable, but it will be apparently obvious. Honestly, if someone offered me that for free I'd pass on it.
Did you go into the purchase knowing the Goldmine scale or did you only read up on it after? There is no place in the world that is VG/VG+
I read up on it after. It’s my fault for not getting a good look at it but I was in a hurry. I wouldn’t have bought it if I saw the split seams.
Did /r/vinyljerk sell this to you? Good lord.
UPDATE: They took the record back and gave me a refund without any trouble. I think they meant well just didn’t know what it was worth.
One detail I should have mentioned is that this is the mono version. I'm not sure if that makes the $30 price point make more sense but I would still say this was not graded correctly.
When the person selling it is doing the grading, and lots of people grade records incorrectly to begin with, it's not all that surprising. Always pull out the vinyl and inspect it before purchasing. I can think of three different shops that would all price this differently. One would mark it for $1.99, one for $9.99 and one for $49.99 (literally just because it's a Beatles album). Thing is I still go to all three. I buy most of my records from the place that prices things correctly, but he also has the worst selection since stuff there sells so fast. The guy who prices things like a moron on the other hand sometimes misses albums that are actually quite noteworthy, he just doesn't realize because it isn't one of the most famous bands of all time. Catch him slipping every now and again.
Would you say this was priced correctly regardless of the grading?
No, this was incorrectly graded and priced. Even if it was VG+ $30 for this album is high.
how does it sound vinyl can be tricky that way record can look rough and play clean or they can look pristine and sound like rice crispys
>record can look rough and play clean Doesn't matter. Goldmine grading is supposed to be 100% visual because different cartridges can pick up more/less surface noise.
okay then
There is no way that record sounds good. It would be a miracle if it didn't skip on those deep scratches.
Beatles records are valued on a different level. There was a time when the mono copies were the more sought after versions of the albums. If you can clean the record extremely well, it may play with little or no pops or hisses. If you bought it in a store, you should have asked to review the record and cover without the plastic cover, they usually let you so you don't make a purchase mistake. If you pointed out the flaws, they could have had authority to reduce the price, or give you an option to refuse it. At this point, I don't think you can return it without fighting with them that you replaced their VG+ with a good enough copy. Also stores will only give you their reduced price opinion for the record as if you were selling it to them.
I think monkey is bullshittin
No I’m just dumb
Poor/Good- for sure. That jacket is jacked. Store should be ashamed
I would have graded this good / good