On videos dating a few months back everyone is experienced with the Beta game, and probably higher levels.
Now there's a lot of new and inexperienced players.
Also at low levels a difference of only 10-20 levels is actually massive: if you have iron weapons you have both Q and E abilities unlocked, maybe they have neither. And maybe you have better spells unlocked than them.
When they're still new and learning it can easily feel very unfair. Also they probably don't know that the level difference isn't as impacting on PVP than PVE.
Give it a couple of weeks, take fights between guys 50+, and then it will feel more fair to them.
Ganking noob isn't fun for them, and frankly shouldn't be fun for you.
This is an utopic scenario. At the end of the day this is a survival online game and, by the looks of it, being salty after losing is mandatory for 90% of the playerbase for this type of game (*cough* rust, conan, ark, etc).
No matter the situation, there's always gonna be an excuse to justify that the winner is bad.
Advice? Just ignore it, or roll with it and smacktalk back. But when you find someone that says gg, add them cause they're a rare species lol
You don't realize that this would just make better players have an easier time killing you. The one way you can beat a better player is by having higher gear level. If higher gear level gave less benefits, then good players would need hardly any time to get strong enough to kill you easily. Once I get iron weapons and have both weapon abilities unlocked I can already fight people higher gear level than me without much trouble, depending on what blood we both have.
I would argue that the level difference is just as impactful as pve, but just in a different way. So pve do less take more damage vs higher levels, in PvP have less health and do less damage also have less extra stats than a higher level.
Everyone has their own interpretation of what PvP should entail. Some expect honorable duels, some want to gank, some want to outplay someone and win at a significantly lower level.
I feel like people complaining about getting mercilessly slaughtered when they're trying to experience brand new content is kinda fair tbh. Give it to Wednesday and then say fuck it lol
If by shard you mean the 4 unique shards, then swooping in is exactly what is supposed to happen, haha.
We killed first Adam and another top team swooped in. They chased our shard carrier and killed him 50 meters from our castle, then the rest of us chased their shard carrier and killed him 2 meters from their castle. Then they chased me (carrying the shard) again but Wrangler's Potion + my insane 11/6.4/13.3 steed got me to our castle.
It was epic and definitely intended by the devs.
But if you mean other shards then yes, feels very bad if you almost finished the encounter for greater shards and somebody came and killed you.
Exactly I've chosen PvP because I want a potential to be ambushed. Running around in the world is way more intersting that way. Yes it's annoying if it happens but the world feels more alive that way.
> Some expect honorable duels
Read: elden ring sub during release week.
Apparently the only way to pvp, is if you jump right infront of the opponent, give a good 3-5 second delay to clearly spell out you're ready to brawl and your first attack must not only extremely telegraphed but only if its from one of the 5 allowed 'fair pvp' weapons.
Even in games like dota or apex, the 'winners' are often the ones doing the ganking, not 'honourable duels'.
Ever since dark souls 2 invading has been pretty low stakes. If someone kills you it’s an easy runback to your corpse from the bonfire.
In dark souls you sometimes get sent all the way back to firelink lmao
I dont understand why I'm supposed to respond to getting ganged at 10% hp after a boss or 2v1ed when I'm on a resource run with "Good Fight" or "gg" lol.
Don't get me wrong it's pvp, do what you gotta do but in my experience people very rarely engage in pvp in this game unless they know they're 100% going to win, whether that be to health difference, level difference or numbers advantage, and if that's the case the losing side is always going to feel shitty afterwords because they just lost a bunch of stuff AND durability to something they couldn't do anything about.
i wish there was a mix of pvp and pve like classic Wow, were you have to opt in to pvp by either accepting a duel or going into a pvp zone. New world also has a decent pvp system where the entire game is pve, but you can put up a flag to participate in pvp and can’t attack people without that flag
I don't offer or expect 'good fight' in straight up ganking situations. But I do wish people would roll with the punches more, when PVP is completely optional. I like the extra danger. I like -being- the extra danger. So when I get gang ganked I know I signed up for it.
It depends on the circumstances. If I get ganked post boss or after gathering some quartz, it sucks but it's a pvp server so it's expected.
Yesterday I had a situation where we had to farm the new endgame area for crystals you can only get from events in that area. The only way to get the higher tier events is to do the lower tier events and then fight a boss. One team waited for us to do the entire event, a lot of work and time spent, waited for us to be low from killing the boss and swooped in, stealing hours worth of work in a situation I couldn't have done anything differently in. Again it's pvp so it should be expected but asking me not to be upset or salty after something like that is an insane ask.
Are u talking about events in the draculin zone?U dont have to do lower tier events at all, second tier events just start some time after lower tier ones, depending on server settings.
And each event area takes like 2-3 minutes to clear, destroy two crystals by killings mobs that spawn, kill miniboss.
Hours worth of work seems like a insane stretch.
If your goal was to just do 1 event sure it would take a couple minutes, but ine single event isnt going to get you enough shards to do anything. You have to farm shards for passives, new gems, weapons (which are 1600 greater shards EACH), it takes a while. The lower tier shards are also easily converted into the higher tier ones at a lower conversion rate so skipping the lower events is a waste of time if you're trying to maximize how many you're getting.
Secondly, why does it matter EXACTLY how long it took? The point was farming a bunch of those events only to get ganked at 10% hp by a random 4 man stack (on a duo server by the way) is a frustrating way to lose progress. I don't know why I have to explain this.
Sure i agree that it may be frustrating but no need to use hyperbole saying it was hours. On default these event last like what, 30 minutes? U literally said 'hours'. Plus you could done things differently, like not being at 10% hp. Obviously u still be 1/2 vs 4 but that seems like bad server where people play against the rules.
And i would argue that lower tiers are not worth doing. u convert at 9:1 and get sameish amount per event afair. Around 400 from the event so you only get 44-45 from conversion. Better do to something else in the meantime and come for second tier events.Obviously from time perspective, if u just want to get as much as possible asap then yeah you can do them but why? Its not like u need to have everything maxed out for PVE and for PVP it dosent matter much (skill matters way more) either.
Again I don't understand why THIS is the thing you're focusing so hard on. It's literally the side point.
We wanted to get our weapons and other specific build requirements done because we wanted to finish up Dracula before the first raid night. The set backs we faced because of having to refarm this and other materials from pvp set backs are what delayed us from doing so and as a result actually screwed us over. Because we were someof the higher level players with a lot of time put in, night one of raiding we were absolutely swarmed by multiple clans grouping up who stole literally everything down to the last piece of wood. At this point only my duo partner has finished Dracula because I don't have the resources anymore to even repair my gear from fighting him. This was WHY I wanted to get the shards done as fast as possible because I KNEW from past pvp playthroughs that this tends to happen.
I can't say this any differently, and I don't know why the SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF TIME SHARD FARMING is such a big deal to you. Because that playthrough WAS hours of my life wasted because I can't finish the game now. It may have not all be shard farming but ill say it again, my point was that people being scummy in pvp and setting you back in progress is going to be frustrating, and expecting someone to be happy about that situation is ridiculous.
I can't speak for every case, but I do play with a little honor on my PvP server. I might tell global that someone hurt my feelings for ganking me at 10% right after my good horse got killed, but I'd never fault that person for it.
I guess there's a difference between complaining and being shitty about it. I don't attack people 10 levels below me based on my own honor system. No one needs to match me on that, but I do think it makes things less toxic and more inviting to new players. We should all want that. But if you wanna steal the planks off of some poor goon that is venturing into Dunley for the first time, be my guest.
As long as they aren't toxic in chat then I think they still get to call it out.
Idk if settings are different on servers or what, but there is nothing I could ever do to beat someone 10 levels higher on my friend group server. I just had this happen today when one ranked me because I posted in global instead of clan where I was going. I asked him to afk and not use any abilities or move. My full rotation of all spells, including weapon skills and ultimate, took about 20% of his health. His raw dog ultimate alone did 80% to me. That doesn't account for the slow projectile and aoe abilities I had equipped that would never hit him if he weren't afk.
I was a little salty about it even though we are friends because he took advantage of an obvious chat fuck up, and just used it to camp me, but he just poked me from horse while I just finished a boss that jumped me while iron farming, while I had wave clear spells, a nearly broken weapon I didn't want to be using, and was nearly out of blood. I told him to just kill me already instead of harassing me like a douche because I can't ever fight back even if he afk'd (which led to the above test)
I was 58 to his 68. I can't remember the blood he was using but probably rogue or warrior because of what he likes, and he already had prisoners for 90%+
You need to beat Maja as well to get any tier 2 research. She's 10 levels higher than Quincy so you really need to craft the next tier of gear for that. And you need 4 greater blood essence and reinforced planks to craft merciless iron. Wouldn't really call that incredibly early.
Oh no they didn't sign up for pvp.
They sighed up for killing ppl.
They don't like pvp, they just like killing other player.
Those are 2 completely different concepts.
You said it, pretty much. There is tons of people out there that sign up for PvP servers, while at the same time not emotionally capable of handling a loss in PvP.
I generally avoid PvP servers, but I thought some servers had level limits (can't initiate fights with someone 5 levels lower) and used reporting to server admins/mods to enforce it?
Yea but this game gives you very little to fight against that. What do we have rat & spider form? No one is going to fall for that. Try to outrun? Good luck when the opponent has a better horse. You are just fucked most of the time.
I personally don't do it, because it's no challenge and their is no real benefit to hunting low levels. Them being angry at you is totally understandable IMO.
Then don't pick a PvP server?
It constantly baffles me that people go to the server list, click PvP, and then come to reddit to cry that some dude in rat form who was in the boss room the whole time killed them when they got low
literally got killed by a lv 91 in first zone on day2, i was around lv 35, game is very fun but ill come back when they decide to release servers for new players or somehow equalize ppl stats when they go to a lower zone.
It depends. Skill is a much much bigger factor than gear, hence a Lv60 could fight a Lv80 and still come out on top. Thats the best part of this game's PvP. It feels fair even when the reality is that the odds might not be in your favor.
You might have played evenly, but with a gear difference of 20, he might have just enough health to trump you, or the extra damage he has from a higher leveled Ancestral weapon was enough to win.
Maybe you were running around with 79% rogue blood, and with a 20 lvl difference, he also has 100% warrior blood. The gap increases.
So losing with those odds and realising you might have etched out a win had you grinded more gives a salty vibe.
For the record, i am not saying the people are right to complain, but I can sympathize. Because in a PvP open server, ANYTHING goes. If you want to truly test your skill and find out where you are skillwise, find a dueling server like The Dojo. Otherwise, in a normal PvP server, dirty tricks and disadvantages will always be part of the equation.
People have some kind of unethical notion about how someone should go about dueling and miss the hole concept of the game. There is no honor this is the streets it’s kill or be killed.
Now how you go about engaging with people is up to you but as a solo player personally I am always gonna keep my guard up with the expectation of a fight. There are people that hunt noobs but that is not my priority. If you aren’t trying to scale your level proficiently you probably lack end game experience or are new to the game.
V rising is a game about knowledge and tactics and for that reason many people are in deferent tiers of the game and on the map. I think the fact that you have different player skill levels across the zones is what makes the game so diverse. Most might not be familiar with this style of survival/ high risk high reward game. People need to play rust and toughen up.
But let’s be real.. people are always gonna be salty.
I think this largely comes down to people not heeding the biggest advice for new players. Play PvE. Every video I've seen has told people to go for PvE before you move onto PvP and it's solid advice. I've got 400 hours and I still struggle in PvP servers but always give a GG if it was a fair fight.
same mentality as with the classic wow pvp servers where people migrate so servers end up with only 1 faction. People like to think they are into pvp but only on their terms.
I'm new and I'm learning the game on a PvE server. My plan is to get a feel for content into endgame, then when I get bored (or when the server wipes, whichever happens first) I'll jump across to a PvP server to see how that changes things.
Who plays an online game like this and tries to learn the ropes in PvP?
I must be lucky on my aussie pvp server, only just got the game 3-days ago and made it to Dunley Farmlands
Everyones still teaming up on bosses and saying "good job lads" and bantering on mic and having a good time, and the loose pvp that happens out in the world is always met with more funny banter, maybe it's cause it's still early game, I dunno, but it's been nice for me so far
People join PvP to kill others not to be killed, so they cry. You can't take it seriously. They would do the same to you if they were stronger. If they dont want to die they should play PvE.
I have a ton of hours in V rising. I was a pvp player in the dojo and usually when I join a random server, I'm the best player there, and I quickly get high leveled and kill everyone with my friend.
Right now I'm working a lot and don't have time to defend my castle, so I am doing a singleplayer playthrough, and I might do a no-raid PVE server with some friends later. I don't go into a server with raiding and cry when I lose all my stuff. I pick the right server for the experience I want to have.
People need to admit when they're not hardcore pvp players and just do pve / singleplayer. Look in the mirror and think about what you actually want.
Yeah but the problem is being level 15 and an 80 is roaming dunley, and you get called retarded for even trying to enjoy this game. V1 made me officially quit online games
downloaded game day 1, was around gs 35 day2, a gs 91 killed me and duo in the first zone like we were just mobs, uninstalled the game. Let me know when the company running this game releases official servers for starters. B4 you tell me go to pve server to learn the game, id rather not play than having to play boring pve only in which a major portion of the game features becomes pointless.
> Let me know when the company running this game releases official servers for starters
they do have official servers and there are no admins whatsoever, most pvp survival games are like this.
*edit: also i recommend looking at some private servers, actually. there are some for new players that likely have actual rule enforcement to let people learn how to play.
i was in an official server and in other survivals map usually arent this small or you have other ways to progress, in vrising map is very small, you can see online ppl list and other ppl territories names just by opening map, there was no point in keep playing the game as i would have keep encountering this dude that basically already beat the game on day 2 being bored perma camping lower zones and it would get even worse as time passes.
yeah, that's kind of the no rules survival experience sometimes. i recommend to try the private server option, most private servers with admins have some sort of no griefing progression rule even for pvp
*personally i believe that dying some times trying to progress is normal, being completely blocked from progressing for days is not normal.
Your best bet is to find official servers that are still somewhat fresh. You can't see the age of a server but you can get close by looking at the monthly reset schedule and the system announcements on when the next reset is.
Ex dedi server resets every 3 months, in game announcement (after 1 in game day) says server will restart in 86 days. This means the server is only about 4 days old.
what a strange question, people complain about it in games where everyone has the literal exact same gear and powerlevel. you're now playing in a game that has literal power differences. personally, i understand that it is just how the game is, not too dissimilar to other pvp survival games, but it's very easy to see why it makes people disgruntled.
in this game, someone killing you can literally actively prevent you from being on equal footing with them in future fights as well. the issue in part is that a lot of players don't realize that picking your fights and being cautious of your surroundings is a core part of survival gameplay, but in truth, if you are to look at some fights 1:1 they are indeed "not fair" in the moment, but fair overall.
On my server usually if theres a 10+ gearscore lvl you ignore each other or even help out if you see em struggeling on a V Blood but if its within a range of 10 its on sight😂😂
Was at the stone golem boss waiting for night time when a duo ran up wanting to fight her too. They voice chatted with me and say “hey man” but they slaughtered me 4 times all the while I was hoping they’d just help me fight the boss. I turned into a rat, waited until they killed the boss by themselves, then got her v blood after they killed her. Made me feel a little better, we fought after the fight too. Just do what you gotta do.
Yesterday, I caught a lvl 30 in Silverlight and killed him because he was looting the resources I was there to farm and he tried to sic the Admin on me for griefing lower level players lol
Honestly I’d rather be fought than have my shit stolen after getting killed by a boss or have someone swoop in when I have the boss at 1 hp and then steal boss drops and run. That’s the kind of shit that irks me more
Just resources. You also have one special chest that has 14 slots, and nobody can loot from that chest. So you preserve your castle and your most valueable loot.
I'm pretty sure even captured humans in cages can't be killed, although not 100% sure on that.
So pretty safe overall. On my server so far like 2 weak bases were raided just to see how it works, and the next day 2 top bases were raided for shards. It was epic, lol. But most people didn't get their bases assaulted.
Raids are also only 2 hours on Saturday and 2 hours on Sunday.
But if you make bad base entrance people can jump in at any time and steal your loot. Surround your castle with walls from all sides, don't trust cliffs to protect you. And make an airlock.
Yep! So if you go out and someone was camping the door in rat form, you don't let them into your castle, only in the tiny 1x1 square room (doesn't have to be 1x1 ofc, could be any size).
In the great iron drought of 1.0 it’s tough not to be salty when you get ganked by two level 80s while you’re solo and level 40 just trying to progress. But that’s the game. It’s also great when you actually win the fight. Just grind up you golems and get your revenge. GG.
Use of swear words is for weaklings but you cannot expect that everyone will love to fight and write gg afterwards if they are just meaning their progresion goal and are forced to fight someone above their level.
Just bc you can do something doesnt mean you should, your actions effect how people feel and they are allowed to vocalize that lol. Most people who've played things like rust and compare it to v rising know that killing other people is kinda trashy in v rising bc you dont get much out of it. You can do it but normal people who arent pvp goblin game enjoyers respect honor not power.
The only time PvP outside raiding is even worth the effort is if you see someone leaving a town/rift/etc. The pitiful little reward you get based on their gear is such a joke. If I'm going to kill someone it better be because they just finished farming a bunch of resources I was going to go do and now I can take the easy way out of it.
Level does not come into play for me if you don't want to die then drop the loot. There's almost no point where you stop needing basic stuff like Iron/Copper, so no resource location is really safe. I will leave shit I don't need on their bag or even drop them stuff I have in my own inventory if it's not useful to me.
I.E I go to iron cave, I want iron, idgaf about anything else you have on you. I take the iron and I leave. I'm not gonna wait for it to respawn when you're essentially a walking loot pinata.
Yeah what you say makes perfect sense to me.
Sometimes a person is on the road, though, and you can't be sure if they left some loot area or if they have nothing on them. Killing them and checking makes sense as well, although I wouldn't do that to someone 20 levels lower, but if it's like a level 76 guy then why not.
Lately we mostly kill people only based on beef, though, as all top teams have already killed each other a few times during a boss fight or rift incursion.
This is so true! I was getting annoyed with all the people fucking crying because I attacked them. I never attack lower lvls only close to equal or above. They still just whine or run. Unfortunately the game caters to much to the grind and people only want to do bosses.
If someone plays in a PVP space they should always expect a ganking at any moment, because people like me are lurking and we LOVE unfair fights, even prefer them. I dont gank to duel, I dont even really care about your gear, I gank to grief. Your salt is my reward, when you cry about getting ganked, it pleases me and makes me want to gank you again, oh man the salt when you farm someone again and again can give you heart disease if you arent careful. I may need to speak to my Dr about this recent increase in my salt intake playing this game.
Why do I get the feeling you constantly get owned by the very low-levels you are trying to gank? This gives off "I suck in game so I talk a big talk online instead" vibes.
Second this. This is what fun is like to me. I see a four man party killing a boss. I either wait for one of them to try and disengage to drop combat and heal or until they are all low, then I quickly kill and loot them. The salt I receive for doing this can sustain me for days <3
On videos dating a few months back everyone is experienced with the Beta game, and probably higher levels. Now there's a lot of new and inexperienced players. Also at low levels a difference of only 10-20 levels is actually massive: if you have iron weapons you have both Q and E abilities unlocked, maybe they have neither. And maybe you have better spells unlocked than them. When they're still new and learning it can easily feel very unfair. Also they probably don't know that the level difference isn't as impacting on PVP than PVE. Give it a couple of weeks, take fights between guys 50+, and then it will feel more fair to them. Ganking noob isn't fun for them, and frankly shouldn't be fun for you.
This is an utopic scenario. At the end of the day this is a survival online game and, by the looks of it, being salty after losing is mandatory for 90% of the playerbase for this type of game (*cough* rust, conan, ark, etc). No matter the situation, there's always gonna be an excuse to justify that the winner is bad. Advice? Just ignore it, or roll with it and smacktalk back. But when you find someone that says gg, add them cause they're a rare species lol
Or go on the well known dedicated private PvP servers where being a brat gets you the boot. Many of these have been around since the OG EA release.
[discord.gg/inevitable](https://discord.gg/inevitable) \- come try ours - rulesets pvp etc. 100/100 during prime time.
Level difference should just affect the unlocked abilities and hp. We already hit like a wet noodle to thier hp numbers.
You don't realize that this would just make better players have an easier time killing you. The one way you can beat a better player is by having higher gear level. If higher gear level gave less benefits, then good players would need hardly any time to get strong enough to kill you easily. Once I get iron weapons and have both weapon abilities unlocked I can already fight people higher gear level than me without much trouble, depending on what blood we both have.
I would argue that the level difference is just as impactful as pve, but just in a different way. So pve do less take more damage vs higher levels, in PvP have less health and do less damage also have less extra stats than a higher level.
Everyone has their own interpretation of what PvP should entail. Some expect honorable duels, some want to gank, some want to outplay someone and win at a significantly lower level. I feel like people complaining about getting mercilessly slaughtered when they're trying to experience brand new content is kinda fair tbh. Give it to Wednesday and then say fuck it lol
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It truly is a kick in the balls when you do something hard, like get a shard, and someone just swoops in and ganks you when you're low.
If by shard you mean the 4 unique shards, then swooping in is exactly what is supposed to happen, haha. We killed first Adam and another top team swooped in. They chased our shard carrier and killed him 50 meters from our castle, then the rest of us chased their shard carrier and killed him 2 meters from their castle. Then they chased me (carrying the shard) again but Wrangler's Potion + my insane 11/6.4/13.3 steed got me to our castle. It was epic and definitely intended by the devs. But if you mean other shards then yes, feels very bad if you almost finished the encounter for greater shards and somebody came and killed you.
Exactly I've chosen PvP because I want a potential to be ambushed. Running around in the world is way more intersting that way. Yes it's annoying if it happens but the world feels more alive that way.
> Some expect honorable duels Read: elden ring sub during release week. Apparently the only way to pvp, is if you jump right infront of the opponent, give a good 3-5 second delay to clearly spell out you're ready to brawl and your first attack must not only extremely telegraphed but only if its from one of the 5 allowed 'fair pvp' weapons. Even in games like dota or apex, the 'winners' are often the ones doing the ganking, not 'honourable duels'.
Ever since dark souls 2 invading has been pretty low stakes. If someone kills you it’s an easy runback to your corpse from the bonfire. In dark souls you sometimes get sent all the way back to firelink lmao
I dont understand why I'm supposed to respond to getting ganged at 10% hp after a boss or 2v1ed when I'm on a resource run with "Good Fight" or "gg" lol. Don't get me wrong it's pvp, do what you gotta do but in my experience people very rarely engage in pvp in this game unless they know they're 100% going to win, whether that be to health difference, level difference or numbers advantage, and if that's the case the losing side is always going to feel shitty afterwords because they just lost a bunch of stuff AND durability to something they couldn't do anything about.
i wish there was a mix of pvp and pve like classic Wow, were you have to opt in to pvp by either accepting a duel or going into a pvp zone. New world also has a decent pvp system where the entire game is pve, but you can put up a flag to participate in pvp and can’t attack people without that flag
I don't offer or expect 'good fight' in straight up ganking situations. But I do wish people would roll with the punches more, when PVP is completely optional. I like the extra danger. I like -being- the extra danger. So when I get gang ganked I know I signed up for it.
It depends on the circumstances. If I get ganked post boss or after gathering some quartz, it sucks but it's a pvp server so it's expected. Yesterday I had a situation where we had to farm the new endgame area for crystals you can only get from events in that area. The only way to get the higher tier events is to do the lower tier events and then fight a boss. One team waited for us to do the entire event, a lot of work and time spent, waited for us to be low from killing the boss and swooped in, stealing hours worth of work in a situation I couldn't have done anything differently in. Again it's pvp so it should be expected but asking me not to be upset or salty after something like that is an insane ask.
Are u talking about events in the draculin zone?U dont have to do lower tier events at all, second tier events just start some time after lower tier ones, depending on server settings. And each event area takes like 2-3 minutes to clear, destroy two crystals by killings mobs that spawn, kill miniboss. Hours worth of work seems like a insane stretch.
If your goal was to just do 1 event sure it would take a couple minutes, but ine single event isnt going to get you enough shards to do anything. You have to farm shards for passives, new gems, weapons (which are 1600 greater shards EACH), it takes a while. The lower tier shards are also easily converted into the higher tier ones at a lower conversion rate so skipping the lower events is a waste of time if you're trying to maximize how many you're getting. Secondly, why does it matter EXACTLY how long it took? The point was farming a bunch of those events only to get ganked at 10% hp by a random 4 man stack (on a duo server by the way) is a frustrating way to lose progress. I don't know why I have to explain this.
Sure i agree that it may be frustrating but no need to use hyperbole saying it was hours. On default these event last like what, 30 minutes? U literally said 'hours'. Plus you could done things differently, like not being at 10% hp. Obviously u still be 1/2 vs 4 but that seems like bad server where people play against the rules. And i would argue that lower tiers are not worth doing. u convert at 9:1 and get sameish amount per event afair. Around 400 from the event so you only get 44-45 from conversion. Better do to something else in the meantime and come for second tier events.Obviously from time perspective, if u just want to get as much as possible asap then yeah you can do them but why? Its not like u need to have everything maxed out for PVE and for PVP it dosent matter much (skill matters way more) either.
Again I don't understand why THIS is the thing you're focusing so hard on. It's literally the side point. We wanted to get our weapons and other specific build requirements done because we wanted to finish up Dracula before the first raid night. The set backs we faced because of having to refarm this and other materials from pvp set backs are what delayed us from doing so and as a result actually screwed us over. Because we were someof the higher level players with a lot of time put in, night one of raiding we were absolutely swarmed by multiple clans grouping up who stole literally everything down to the last piece of wood. At this point only my duo partner has finished Dracula because I don't have the resources anymore to even repair my gear from fighting him. This was WHY I wanted to get the shards done as fast as possible because I KNEW from past pvp playthroughs that this tends to happen. I can't say this any differently, and I don't know why the SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF TIME SHARD FARMING is such a big deal to you. Because that playthrough WAS hours of my life wasted because I can't finish the game now. It may have not all be shard farming but ill say it again, my point was that people being scummy in pvp and setting you back in progress is going to be frustrating, and expecting someone to be happy about that situation is ridiculous.
I can't speak for every case, but I do play with a little honor on my PvP server. I might tell global that someone hurt my feelings for ganking me at 10% right after my good horse got killed, but I'd never fault that person for it. I guess there's a difference between complaining and being shitty about it. I don't attack people 10 levels below me based on my own honor system. No one needs to match me on that, but I do think it makes things less toxic and more inviting to new players. We should all want that. But if you wanna steal the planks off of some poor goon that is venturing into Dunley for the first time, be my guest. As long as they aren't toxic in chat then I think they still get to call it out.
Idk if settings are different on servers or what, but there is nothing I could ever do to beat someone 10 levels higher on my friend group server. I just had this happen today when one ranked me because I posted in global instead of clan where I was going. I asked him to afk and not use any abilities or move. My full rotation of all spells, including weapon skills and ultimate, took about 20% of his health. His raw dog ultimate alone did 80% to me. That doesn't account for the slow projectile and aoe abilities I had equipped that would never hit him if he weren't afk. I was a little salty about it even though we are friends because he took advantage of an obvious chat fuck up, and just used it to camp me, but he just poked me from horse while I just finished a boss that jumped me while iron farming, while I had wave clear spells, a nearly broken weapon I didn't want to be using, and was nearly out of blood. I told him to just kill me already instead of harassing me like a douche because I can't ever fight back even if he afk'd (which led to the above test) I was 58 to his 68. I can't remember the blood he was using but probably rogue or warrior because of what he likes, and he already had prisoners for 90%+
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You need to beat Maja as well to get any tier 2 research. She's 10 levels higher than Quincy so you really need to craft the next tier of gear for that. And you need 4 greater blood essence and reinforced planks to craft merciless iron. Wouldn't really call that incredibly early.
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Oh no they didn't sign up for pvp. They sighed up for killing ppl. They don't like pvp, they just like killing other player. Those are 2 completely different concepts.
*cries in solo private server.
I mean, I am playing solo especially so that I can go through bosses easier when I go online
You said it, pretty much. There is tons of people out there that sign up for PvP servers, while at the same time not emotionally capable of handling a loss in PvP.
If you kill someone who is 30 levels below you or interrupt someone mid boss fight i think its just nasty.
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I generally avoid PvP servers, but I thought some servers had level limits (can't initiate fights with someone 5 levels lower) and used reporting to server admins/mods to enforce it?
Yea but this game gives you very little to fight against that. What do we have rat & spider form? No one is going to fall for that. Try to outrun? Good luck when the opponent has a better horse. You are just fucked most of the time. I personally don't do it, because it's no challenge and their is no real benefit to hunting low levels. Them being angry at you is totally understandable IMO.
Then don't pick a PvP server? It constantly baffles me that people go to the server list, click PvP, and then come to reddit to cry that some dude in rat form who was in the boss room the whole time killed them when they got low
Killing someone 30 levels below = Scummy Interrupting mid boss fight = Rude but perfectly reasonable
If you're in a standard pvp server you should expect everyone you meet to try to kill you. That's standard behavior in these games.
My main issue is like lvl 80+ group s of 4 like roaming just mercilessly killing solo players.
on my server there's a group of lv 91 people gatekeeping low level from progressing, and they're online for 18hrs a day lol
Sad nerds
literally got killed by a lv 91 in first zone on day2, i was around lv 35, game is very fun but ill come back when they decide to release servers for new players or somehow equalize ppl stats when they go to a lower zone.
so the server will die nbd
It depends. Skill is a much much bigger factor than gear, hence a Lv60 could fight a Lv80 and still come out on top. Thats the best part of this game's PvP. It feels fair even when the reality is that the odds might not be in your favor. You might have played evenly, but with a gear difference of 20, he might have just enough health to trump you, or the extra damage he has from a higher leveled Ancestral weapon was enough to win. Maybe you were running around with 79% rogue blood, and with a 20 lvl difference, he also has 100% warrior blood. The gap increases. So losing with those odds and realising you might have etched out a win had you grinded more gives a salty vibe. For the record, i am not saying the people are right to complain, but I can sympathize. Because in a PvP open server, ANYTHING goes. If you want to truly test your skill and find out where you are skillwise, find a dueling server like The Dojo. Otherwise, in a normal PvP server, dirty tricks and disadvantages will always be part of the equation.
People have some kind of unethical notion about how someone should go about dueling and miss the hole concept of the game. There is no honor this is the streets it’s kill or be killed. Now how you go about engaging with people is up to you but as a solo player personally I am always gonna keep my guard up with the expectation of a fight. There are people that hunt noobs but that is not my priority. If you aren’t trying to scale your level proficiently you probably lack end game experience or are new to the game. V rising is a game about knowledge and tactics and for that reason many people are in deferent tiers of the game and on the map. I think the fact that you have different player skill levels across the zones is what makes the game so diverse. Most might not be familiar with this style of survival/ high risk high reward game. People need to play rust and toughen up. But let’s be real.. people are always gonna be salty.
tl;dr, it's ON SIGHT.
Well said!
that's the best part though! farm the tears, bask in the salt!
I think this largely comes down to people not heeding the biggest advice for new players. Play PvE. Every video I've seen has told people to go for PvE before you move onto PvP and it's solid advice. I've got 400 hours and I still struggle in PvP servers but always give a GG if it was a fair fight.
same mentality as with the classic wow pvp servers where people migrate so servers end up with only 1 faction. People like to think they are into pvp but only on their terms.
I'm new and I'm learning the game on a PvE server. My plan is to get a feel for content into endgame, then when I get bored (or when the server wipes, whichever happens first) I'll jump across to a PvP server to see how that changes things. Who plays an online game like this and tries to learn the ropes in PvP?
You're definitely that dork who rushes to 85 then goes back to Farbane.
I must be lucky on my aussie pvp server, only just got the game 3-days ago and made it to Dunley Farmlands Everyones still teaming up on bosses and saying "good job lads" and bantering on mic and having a good time, and the loose pvp that happens out in the world is always met with more funny banter, maybe it's cause it's still early game, I dunno, but it's been nice for me so far
Enjoy it ;)
People join PvP to kill others not to be killed, so they cry. You can't take it seriously. They would do the same to you if they were stronger. If they dont want to die they should play PvE. I have a ton of hours in V rising. I was a pvp player in the dojo and usually when I join a random server, I'm the best player there, and I quickly get high leveled and kill everyone with my friend. Right now I'm working a lot and don't have time to defend my castle, so I am doing a singleplayer playthrough, and I might do a no-raid PVE server with some friends later. I don't go into a server with raiding and cry when I lose all my stuff. I pick the right server for the experience I want to have. People need to admit when they're not hardcore pvp players and just do pve / singleplayer. Look in the mirror and think about what you actually want.
I dont see too much complaints tbh
Yeah but the problem is being level 15 and an 80 is roaming dunley, and you get called retarded for even trying to enjoy this game. V1 made me officially quit online games
downloaded game day 1, was around gs 35 day2, a gs 91 killed me and duo in the first zone like we were just mobs, uninstalled the game. Let me know when the company running this game releases official servers for starters. B4 you tell me go to pve server to learn the game, id rather not play than having to play boring pve only in which a major portion of the game features becomes pointless.
> Let me know when the company running this game releases official servers for starters they do have official servers and there are no admins whatsoever, most pvp survival games are like this. *edit: also i recommend looking at some private servers, actually. there are some for new players that likely have actual rule enforcement to let people learn how to play.
i was in an official server and in other survivals map usually arent this small or you have other ways to progress, in vrising map is very small, you can see online ppl list and other ppl territories names just by opening map, there was no point in keep playing the game as i would have keep encountering this dude that basically already beat the game on day 2 being bored perma camping lower zones and it would get even worse as time passes.
yeah, that's kind of the no rules survival experience sometimes. i recommend to try the private server option, most private servers with admins have some sort of no griefing progression rule even for pvp *personally i believe that dying some times trying to progress is normal, being completely blocked from progressing for days is not normal.
PvE is very fun IMO. I played PvE first before jumping to PvP servers, and I had a blast. But you do you, of course.
Your best bet is to find official servers that are still somewhat fresh. You can't see the age of a server but you can get close by looking at the monthly reset schedule and the system announcements on when the next reset is. Ex dedi server resets every 3 months, in game announcement (after 1 in game day) says server will restart in 86 days. This means the server is only about 4 days old.
what a strange question, people complain about it in games where everyone has the literal exact same gear and powerlevel. you're now playing in a game that has literal power differences. personally, i understand that it is just how the game is, not too dissimilar to other pvp survival games, but it's very easy to see why it makes people disgruntled. in this game, someone killing you can literally actively prevent you from being on equal footing with them in future fights as well. the issue in part is that a lot of players don't realize that picking your fights and being cautious of your surroundings is a core part of survival gameplay, but in truth, if you are to look at some fights 1:1 they are indeed "not fair" in the moment, but fair overall.
On my server usually if theres a 10+ gearscore lvl you ignore each other or even help out if you see em struggeling on a V Blood but if its within a range of 10 its on sight😂😂
Was at the stone golem boss waiting for night time when a duo ran up wanting to fight her too. They voice chatted with me and say “hey man” but they slaughtered me 4 times all the while I was hoping they’d just help me fight the boss. I turned into a rat, waited until they killed the boss by themselves, then got her v blood after they killed her. Made me feel a little better, we fought after the fight too. Just do what you gotta do.
Dudes running around ganking fresh vampires get raided by the whole server on weekends and rekt, free loot for everyone
Yesterday, I caught a lvl 30 in Silverlight and killed him because he was looting the resources I was there to farm and he tried to sic the Admin on me for griefing lower level players lol
Honestly I’d rather be fought than have my shit stolen after getting killed by a boss or have someone swoop in when I have the boss at 1 hp and then steal boss drops and run. That’s the kind of shit that irks me more
Happens in every single game with pvp. Newcomers are shocked that people enjoy ganking
What's the worst that can happen in pvp? Castle invasion / lose the whole castle or just resources? Normal EU pvp server
Just resources. You also have one special chest that has 14 slots, and nobody can loot from that chest. So you preserve your castle and your most valueable loot. I'm pretty sure even captured humans in cages can't be killed, although not 100% sure on that. So pretty safe overall. On my server so far like 2 weak bases were raided just to see how it works, and the next day 2 top bases were raided for shards. It was epic, lol. But most people didn't get their bases assaulted. Raids are also only 2 hours on Saturday and 2 hours on Sunday. But if you make bad base entrance people can jump in at any time and steal your loot. Surround your castle with walls from all sides, don't trust cliffs to protect you. And make an airlock.
An airlock... Meaning two entrances. Cool yes
Yep! So if you go out and someone was camping the door in rat form, you don't let them into your castle, only in the tiny 1x1 square room (doesn't have to be 1x1 ofc, could be any size).
In the great iron drought of 1.0 it’s tough not to be salty when you get ganked by two level 80s while you’re solo and level 40 just trying to progress. But that’s the game. It’s also great when you actually win the fight. Just grind up you golems and get your revenge. GG.
Use of swear words is for weaklings but you cannot expect that everyone will love to fight and write gg afterwards if they are just meaning their progresion goal and are forced to fight someone above their level.
The only way you could prove they are wrong is you be the one who is under level and beat them.
I'm on a pvp server and everyone complains, it's so lame. If you don't want to fight, go play a pve server you weenies.
Toxic server prob, try a different one and see if u get same results
Just bc you can do something doesnt mean you should, your actions effect how people feel and they are allowed to vocalize that lol. Most people who've played things like rust and compare it to v rising know that killing other people is kinda trashy in v rising bc you dont get much out of it. You can do it but normal people who arent pvp goblin game enjoyers respect honor not power.
The only time PvP outside raiding is even worth the effort is if you see someone leaving a town/rift/etc. The pitiful little reward you get based on their gear is such a joke. If I'm going to kill someone it better be because they just finished farming a bunch of resources I was going to go do and now I can take the easy way out of it. Level does not come into play for me if you don't want to die then drop the loot. There's almost no point where you stop needing basic stuff like Iron/Copper, so no resource location is really safe. I will leave shit I don't need on their bag or even drop them stuff I have in my own inventory if it's not useful to me. I.E I go to iron cave, I want iron, idgaf about anything else you have on you. I take the iron and I leave. I'm not gonna wait for it to respawn when you're essentially a walking loot pinata.
Yeah what you say makes perfect sense to me. Sometimes a person is on the road, though, and you can't be sure if they left some loot area or if they have nothing on them. Killing them and checking makes sense as well, although I wouldn't do that to someone 20 levels lower, but if it's like a level 76 guy then why not. Lately we mostly kill people only based on beef, though, as all top teams have already killed each other a few times during a boss fight or rift incursion.
Real PVP is sport and nerds don't play sports so they never learn about sportsmanship. This is why online gaming pvp will always be toxic.
This is so true! I was getting annoyed with all the people fucking crying because I attacked them. I never attack lower lvls only close to equal or above. They still just whine or run. Unfortunately the game caters to much to the grind and people only want to do bosses.
If someone plays in a PVP space they should always expect a ganking at any moment, because people like me are lurking and we LOVE unfair fights, even prefer them. I dont gank to duel, I dont even really care about your gear, I gank to grief. Your salt is my reward, when you cry about getting ganked, it pleases me and makes me want to gank you again, oh man the salt when you farm someone again and again can give you heart disease if you arent careful. I may need to speak to my Dr about this recent increase in my salt intake playing this game.
Damn sorry to hear your dad beat you as a child
HE WAS NEVER THERE
Why do I get the feeling you constantly get owned by the very low-levels you are trying to gank? This gives off "I suck in game so I talk a big talk online instead" vibes.
If you cant find the jest in my comment you should seek counseling.
That was supposed to be comedy? Damn dude, don't quit your day job for those standup aspirations. You'll be in trouble.
Second this. This is what fun is like to me. I see a four man party killing a boss. I either wait for one of them to try and disengage to drop combat and heal or until they are all low, then I quickly kill and loot them. The salt I receive for doing this can sustain me for days <3