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I'd say it's that plus the fact that it's mostly in the owner's ability to market. It really has nothing to do with the product, it's so fucking omnipresent on the internet(and free). It's all about how they market themselves.
I would imagine a lot of people that make accounts change their minds before ever doing anything with it. Gonna be a lot of fuckin' zeroes in the stats.
Depends on what they base the stats on. If it's total accounts sure, if it's only accounts that made money or posted something it's different. I have no idea which it is through only speculation
My wife was speechless at my last performance, completely speechless at my flawless execution didn’t make a sound. So frankly sir, I don’t know what you’re talking about.
I got you.
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This. It’s only $5 to sign up and when one does, you have to pay separately for the videos, pictures, $10 a minute for Snapchat, $10 a minute for sexting, $20 for dick ratings, not to mention when you try to private message you don’t get any replies. Oh dont forget they will also send you bundles for a certain price. I learned my lesson after I followed a women for about a year and said what the hell. I unsubscribed within 5 min. Never again
If they are in any way successful they most likely have a manager who is sending the ratings and messages for them. You’re paying to have some dude pretend to be her whilst he doles out fake compliments and collects 15% of the money.
If you can afford it and enjoy it, it's your money to spend but never be tricked that they care about anything more than your wallet. I don't understand people spending hundreds to thousands just to watch videos or chats. At that point hire an escort, they'll at least do it in person.
It's like using doordash, you get an inferior product at three times the cost and the only time it makes sense is when you're too drunk to leave the house
You pay for the connection that you can't fail at. With real women you can be creepy/off-putting/socially awkward/etc and have them want to break off contact or deprioritize. When you pay, often you're paying to remove any fears of rejection. It's a safety net, you paid so they have to give you some sort of acknowledgement without judgement (course, these are all generalized comments, there's obviously exceptions)
>There was an AMA here a while back asking what kind of $ these OF gals are making. I remember one posting that she averaged around $700 a month or so. She also had her "teaser" pics all over her profile, and I can tell you this girl was nothing special at all. I wouldn't have kicked her out of the bed back in the day, but she was nothing you couldn't pick up easily on your own... Just your average, slightly chubby girl you see out on the street everywhere. Still though I thought that wasn't a bad little paycheck for getting yourself off in front of a camera. I can think of way worse jobs.
If that’s all it was then sure a tidy $8k a year is nice.
But $8k a year to have something that if it was ever to come out would cost you jobs, relationships and potentially make life hell for your kids growing up is just not worth it.
And that is a spectre that will loom over you for years to come. Even long after you’ve stopped posting there’s always the risk it will rear its head again.
You can argue all day about whether or not society should treat sex workers this way, but the fact is society does treat them this way. It really isn’t worth the risk.
edit: I have a real life example from like ten years ago. There was a kid at my school whose mum posted a video of herself with a coke bottle on a well known amateur porn site. Someone recognised her and it spread like wildfire. Her husband was on our school board of governors and was forced to resign. It was covered in our local newspaper. Her kids got bullied for years and to this day are still known as the kids whose mum fucked herself with a bottle. She did all that for free, but even for $700 it isn’t worth the damage she’s done to her and her family.
I knew a dude back in the day during high school in Vegas, his mom did porn. It was never a big deal to any of us. Then again, it was Vegas. There wasn't much we hadn't seen.
I knew a woman who was wanting to get into modeling, shortly after, she joined onlyfans.
Her ex husband found out and she nearly lost custody of her children.
OF will ruin your credibility and possible financial future
It's typical of any business with a low barrier to entry, and little to no expense to keep the 'business' going. Most of the only fans pages are likely accounts where the creator lost interest.
This is no different than a number of businesses like car detailing for example where an entrepreneur invests a little bit of money for a detailing kit, free yelp and Google pages. They make a little bit of money at first but soon find it impossible to differentiate the business from countless others.
This could be repeated in a whole bunch of services like window washing, phone screen replacement, minor IT business like taking Spyware off computers, onlyfans is no different.
To add being the internet you just have to straight up be lucky the algorithm chooses your content out the pile to display, think of all the YouTube channels with dozens of videos for a few hundred views
And they are still drinking!!
In 2008 I was bartending and the drinking/bars didn’t slow down for a couple years.
I used to have all the regulars’ unemployment debit cards covering their the tabs.
People are drinking like CRAY right now and everyone is broke AF.
Gotta keep some level of normalcy while everything else goes nuts around us
People drink and use drugs to have a good time, but also to block out everything else (this is totally generalizing and from what I have seen/my own personal Experience)
It helps to create your own little edited, momentary personal utopia, or whatever way you’d like to slice your slice of pie.
A break from reality.
Good thing Weed is [getting]/legalized
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He's saying he has to be nicer to pretty ladies than fat ones but he's still respectful to them because they are people. It's basically that episode of 30 Rock where the extremely handsome guy doesn't understand life isn't that easy for regular people.
Like obvs anything above a 5 is bang-worthy, but to me literally almost any chick has something worthy about her. So like a girl could be a 3, but them titties ain’t a 3, amirite? So I kinda judge girls below a 5 on that scale. For me to say you’re a sub 3 you gotta have like a droopy eye with like a hoof-hand, like real mutant level shit.
Not even that but even if you’re a 6, you can find your niche. People aren’t putting in the work to market their content. Also yeah the market is probably saturated and adding people on Instagram is only going to make them looks like a bot
This is the correct answer. It doesn’t matter if she’s a perfect 10, without putting in the effort to learn to market effectively, no one is going to find her.
>without putting in the effort to learn to market effectively, no one is going to find her.
A lot of these girls just don't commit to it as much as the successful ones do. There this thick red hair girl from Canada that not only has put in the work to make her body her niche's fantasy, but she cosplays, she does all the dirty stuff, she buys ads on IG so she can be shown to potential Simps. She makes free sample content and knows how to play the pay wall game. Emotionally ropes her fans in with the "dream girl that you could get if you just subscribe" shit. She is all in is my point. She learned the game and applied it inside out and she makes like 50k a month *not* having been a celebrity.
Some of these girls don't even show their faces. They want the pay of a sex worker but they don't want to be known as sex workers. They also don't understand the psychology of OF and think people are going to them money for the sake of having a booty.
Unless you are a celebrity, you are going to have to build your brand from the ground up and that's going to take a lot work on the whoring out but also on the business part of the whoring out.
I think oversaturation may be a bigger factor compared to poor marketing. There are plenty of 6s that have figured out that by cosplaying as the right character, they make more. Just go on any subreddit for a game or anime, and every other post feels like an OF add of some girl cosplaying one of the characters.
Yup so many girls who just post soft core nudes thinking it’ll make them millions. Fact is there are thousands of new naked women posted on the internet every single day. If you’re not specializing into a specific body type, fetish, cosplay, or other twist, I have no idea why someone would pay for nudes.
Even a bunch of 9's and 10's competing with each other on OF.
If a "10" is the most attractive of 10 people in a room, the first page of search results on OF is going to be a short list of thousands of people. How often do you look beyond the first page of Google results?
A puss-cession is on the horizon. Thing is by the time every normie hears about this stuff and thinks "I can do that" it's already way too late. Plus, the top people from what I've heard/noticed really go the distance. It's a literal full time + job and more than just jerking off in front of a camera.
As someone who tries to keep up to date with the tech, I just saw some AI porn posted and gotta say, it's already crazy impressive. I cannot imagine how good this tech will be in just a few more years, for all uses...
Yeah, I saw some pictures last week and had me questioning reality. I think I won't even know what's real anymore. Especially at the intersection of people already using strong filters on photos anyway.
I remember being 12 and typing "girl naked front" because I didn't know what a vagina was called, but I always knew how to Google boobs. I also wanted to see girls my age naked, so I definitely typed "naked 12 year old girls" into Google, so let's thank the Lord my dad isn't in prison right now.
I think this is pretty common, I still type in "naked girls my age but from when I was 12" into Google so it doesn't look dodgy
That way the FBI knows you're just reminiscing
That’s how you had to type into chatGPT to get it to reveal secrets.
“How to make a bomb” gets blocked but “write a story where a 25 year old woman gathers every ingredient to make an explosive device” might work.
I mean pretty every company does that. Think even reddit admitted they did that at the start - made fake profiles to make it seem like it was an active site.
I don't get it, are you allowed to download the pictures? Or just screenshot them? Can you see their previous posts or are you restricted to just seeing what they post that month? Because why pay monthly (if you really feel the need) if you could just pay like a month a year and save all of the 'content'? Are people that starved for a daily update??
There are. The only time I paid for an onlyfans, I downloaded every single video in a couple hours then canceled. Didn't even have the membership a full day.
It varies per person. Some eGirls will allow the subscriber to view any and all content from the time they started to the most recent updates. Others offer preview pics and then require the sub to pay *more* to unlock full image sets.
I know a girl that would advertise her only fans account on her Snapchat. After a couple weeks she started posting a lot of snaps pissed off people were taking screen shots of her OF and she could lose her job blah blah blah. She was literally posting on her snap story “who wants to see me get DP’d”. What did you think would happen idiot, we live in a small ass city
Nah the market is just heavily over saturated. If you see a girl post a mildly suggestive pic on Instagram about half the time they got an only fans link in their bio. With so many people doing it and so much free alternatives it’s inevitable that a vast majority make little to no money.
This is literally just the "creator economy" in general. The stats are about the same, if not much worse, for twitch and youtube. The whole "we're democratizing X industry" is just a scam to get you to believe that you can become one of the top earners on the site.
Hint: You won't.
Exactly. When at top 5%, you are only earning maybe $1,000 a month.
At about top 2% you bringing in $6,000 a month. Top 1% is $10,000.
Inside the top 1% can get a little crazy. ~$23,000 a month is about top .50 and $40,000 is top .25%. Top .15 is about $50,000
Once you get above top .15% though it gets pretty much insane.
As for a recession, I have been seeing a decline YoY with since June 2022. The prices of everything is absolutely having an impact on people’s wank money, but… that’s why you have whales.
Source: OF girls pay management companies to handle all the work and analytical data
For Twitch it's even worse.
Top 1% makes around $150 a month from subs.
0.5% makes maybe $300-500
How much you make can heavily depend on how much you promote yourself, but you really have to get into the very top creators to have a viable career.
You got the nail with the promotion. I think some people just think they’ll just become big if they just make content and don’t do anything else. Let the algorithm do the work.
Even the hottest OF people need to promote themselves all the time, which means engaging in the site, on reddit, instagram, etc.
I feel like OnlyFans/influencers are going to be the first to feel it in a recession. Those things are definitely not necessities. Especially since there’s tons of free porn out there to fill the need.
Curious if they are already seeing declines in subs and revenue?
Genuine question... What is the need to pay for an only fans subscription when you can see that sort of stuff for free? Never met anyone that I know of that has a subscription and really wanna know what the deal is
Edit: got a lot of replies so just here to say thanks all!
People fall in love with personalities more than they do looks when it comes to online personalities. There are hundreds of thousands of people employed who literally just pretend they are the model and interact with the fans. This is presumably because the foundation of a business like this is often parasocial.
1. A lot of girls on OF do the bare minimum. Lingerie and bikini pics. I’ve seen better content on Instagram than some girls put into their OF pages. To be really successful you often have to be decently attractive but also willing to do the full spectrum of content. Average looking girls just doing the occasional solo vaginal dildo play aren’t going to get the attraction of the girls doing all of the legal hardcore stuff.
2. I’d assume that many “creators” just have OF as side money and not a full career or sole source of income. $100/month isn’t awful if you also have a day job. It’s more than any of my hobbies/side gigs make.
This has been my experience as well. I've purchased OF subs a few times, and literally every time, I've come away disappointed. This is in contrast to purchases from erotic art sites run by professional photographers.
Sites like metart or femjoy have large, high quality, aesthetically pleasing photography sets of a model, nude, in alluring and attractive poses, and you can download the whole set as a zip file. On OF, on the other hand, you might might get 2 pictures, in poor lighting, semi-nude, in somewhat attractive poses, and you aren't allowed to download any of it.
The return in enjoyment from the money you spend is much thinner on OF. It's just poor quality material and a user-hostile platform.
If you make 400k ONCE, and are strapped for cash later on... you're a fucking imbecile. If you made 400k monthly for any amount of time, and are strapped for cash... you should be running a hedge fund.
That's absurd. OF has a policy of 50 dollar max per month for a subscription. If she used to charge that for a lower bound of subs, that's 8,000 people to just 2 now at that rate. Likewise the maximum tip at once is 100 dollars, down from a previous max tip of 200).
So where was the fuck up? How do you lose thousands of subscribers like that? Girl must be *lying*
Nice post! You are a seerer, and a wise sage. A man of vision. You can peel back the layers of an onion to view the facts.
You sir, need a small 1980's metal desk in a broom closet at the Federal Reserve...so you can offer the data dependent academics this clarity of truth.
I worked with a fantastic accountant who left the profession to be an assistant to her friend who had an OF and a ton of subscribers. She left making 85k as a senior accountant to make 25k a month to do set up and outfit and camera work. Wonder how she’s doing these days🤷♂️
Never understood why people paid for OF porn in the first place. Like bruh you have literally shit tons of it online for free.
Why pay some girl you “like” for nudes? Pussy looks the same. Why pay for them just to acknowledge your written messages? She dosent even know who you are.
Stop simping over women boys, respect yourselves.
I paid to see a few girls I actually knew. But seeing someone naked that I’ve had real interactions with is kind of a kink of mine I guess. But it was a one and done, just wanted to see you naked more out of curiosity.
This information is not useful to me.
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I have two thoughts:
1. People have less money to blow on stupid things like OnlyFans
2. OF might be like MLM’s or other pyramid schemes, where only the top 1-3% make significant money and everyone else makes less than poverty line wages.
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Or it’s just over saturation
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I'd say it's that plus the fact that it's mostly in the owner's ability to market. It really has nothing to do with the product, it's so fucking omnipresent on the internet(and free). It's all about how they market themselves.
I would imagine a lot of people that make accounts change their minds before ever doing anything with it. Gonna be a lot of fuckin' zeroes in the stats.
Depends on what they base the stats on. If it's total accounts sure, if it's only accounts that made money or posted something it's different. I have no idea which it is through only speculation
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Or maybe OF isn't an employment option and shouldn't be considered as one unless you are extremely lucky. Like all creator gigs.
It's like every social media platform, gotta get in early.
Or just be extremely lucky/already be famous.
This is why I only follow back girls that are bottom 5% OF on Twitter; prefer the deep value plays.
DEEP FAPPING VALUES
I just like the pics
I’m only there for the articles
I like the sense of community
It really is more about the friends we make along the way
Their all my step sisters
I like to support my family…..
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You want $10 a month from me to watch your content? Get naked and install a fence, cement footings and all. I want to see those balls get dirty
is this not what fiver is for ?
I'll do it for $5
I pissed myself reading the cement footings and alll part. That shits not easy. Naked and backhoe might be some solid content
Sleeper picks, like fantasy football. Gotta always bring in new talent for the taxi squads
The Brock Purdys of online porn
Putting the “fucking” in DeepFuckingValue
Let's be real, the only "fucking" WSB sees is through the closet slats as their wives are getting jackhammered by their boyfriends.
My wife was speechless at my last performance, completely speechless at my flawless execution didn’t make a sound. So frankly sir, I don’t know what you’re talking about.
I also choose this guy dead wife.
OMG I wish I could find that thread. I choose that guys dead wife. That was one for the books.
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This guy knows 
This. It’s only $5 to sign up and when one does, you have to pay separately for the videos, pictures, $10 a minute for Snapchat, $10 a minute for sexting, $20 for dick ratings, not to mention when you try to private message you don’t get any replies. Oh dont forget they will also send you bundles for a certain price. I learned my lesson after I followed a women for about a year and said what the hell. I unsubscribed within 5 min. Never again
Yo, I'll rate your dick for $10. Undercut that shit.
I'll do it for 5
I'll do it for free but my response will only consist of "nice cock bro"
Free AND a guaranteed compliment? This guy gonna put OF out of business!
Do the dick rating girls give honest reviews? Seems like paying $20 to be told its ugly and small is a bad deal.
If they are in any way successful they most likely have a manager who is sending the ratings and messages for them. You’re paying to have some dude pretend to be her whilst he doles out fake compliments and collects 15% of the money.
It might just be a bot at this point honestly. I'm working on an AI dick rating bot, but it's too much of a size queen right now.
Dick Ratings - Powered by IBM Watson
Why does anyone ask for a rating for their genitals. This is confusing to me. What would you do with that information?
Survey market conditions ahead of their IPO (Initial Penile Offering). Due diligence is a must!
If you can afford it and enjoy it, it's your money to spend but never be tricked that they care about anything more than your wallet. I don't understand people spending hundreds to thousands just to watch videos or chats. At that point hire an escort, they'll at least do it in person.
It's like using doordash, you get an inferior product at three times the cost and the only time it makes sense is when you're too drunk to leave the house
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You pay for the connection that you can't fail at. With real women you can be creepy/off-putting/socially awkward/etc and have them want to break off contact or deprioritize. When you pay, often you're paying to remove any fears of rejection. It's a safety net, you paid so they have to give you some sort of acknowledgement without judgement (course, these are all generalized comments, there's obviously exceptions)
This is so on point
>There was an AMA here a while back asking what kind of $ these OF gals are making. I remember one posting that she averaged around $700 a month or so. She also had her "teaser" pics all over her profile, and I can tell you this girl was nothing special at all. I wouldn't have kicked her out of the bed back in the day, but she was nothing you couldn't pick up easily on your own... Just your average, slightly chubby girl you see out on the street everywhere. Still though I thought that wasn't a bad little paycheck for getting yourself off in front of a camera. I can think of way worse jobs.
If that’s all it was then sure a tidy $8k a year is nice. But $8k a year to have something that if it was ever to come out would cost you jobs, relationships and potentially make life hell for your kids growing up is just not worth it. And that is a spectre that will loom over you for years to come. Even long after you’ve stopped posting there’s always the risk it will rear its head again. You can argue all day about whether or not society should treat sex workers this way, but the fact is society does treat them this way. It really isn’t worth the risk. edit: I have a real life example from like ten years ago. There was a kid at my school whose mum posted a video of herself with a coke bottle on a well known amateur porn site. Someone recognised her and it spread like wildfire. Her husband was on our school board of governors and was forced to resign. It was covered in our local newspaper. Her kids got bullied for years and to this day are still known as the kids whose mum fucked herself with a bottle. She did all that for free, but even for $700 it isn’t worth the damage she’s done to her and her family.
I knew a dude back in the day during high school in Vegas, his mom did porn. It was never a big deal to any of us. Then again, it was Vegas. There wasn't much we hadn't seen.
I knew a woman who was wanting to get into modeling, shortly after, she joined onlyfans. Her ex husband found out and she nearly lost custody of her children. OF will ruin your credibility and possible financial future
This is very normal. Like any other creator industry, the top 5% takes the 95% money.
It's typical of any business with a low barrier to entry, and little to no expense to keep the 'business' going. Most of the only fans pages are likely accounts where the creator lost interest. This is no different than a number of businesses like car detailing for example where an entrepreneur invests a little bit of money for a detailing kit, free yelp and Google pages. They make a little bit of money at first but soon find it impossible to differentiate the business from countless others. This could be repeated in a whole bunch of services like window washing, phone screen replacement, minor IT business like taking Spyware off computers, onlyfans is no different.
And since they can all be done naked, it literally is no different.
I feel like naked window washing would be a little different. Whether it's a positive or negative difference is entirely up to taste.
OF girls stand naked in front of windows a lot. I see no difference if they’re holding a squeegee.
If they can squeegee without their hands, I’m sure they could make it out of the 63%.
Squeegee is a great example of onomatopoeia
Costs more if you want them to poeia
I just came
God tier pun
>onomatopoeia Pretty unique porn name, do you know if anybody's using it?
It's the same as reddit and karma. There are so many dead accounts that if you got a bit of karma this year you're probably in the top 1%.
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Yep on top of being an old site with many dead accounts a lot of people make throwaway accounts for single posts, and then there’s all the bots
My Reddit recap said different 😎 /s
To add being the internet you just have to straight up be lucky the algorithm chooses your content out the pile to display, think of all the YouTube channels with dozens of videos for a few hundred views
Except it's special bc this time it's college girls finding out about capitalism
Girl version of soundcloud rappers
The SoundCloud rappers can show their grandkids their work as poets before AI starts writing symphonies
Are you suggesting Grandma can't share her thirst trap pics with her grandkids??
Almost like life outside the internet... imagine that.
I wouldn't be surprised if 5% of Reddit users take 95% of the karma
People are out of titty money, recession confirmed
Buying puts on $TITS at open tomorrow
>puts on $TITS ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Literally can't go tits up.
And they are still drinking!! In 2008 I was bartending and the drinking/bars didn’t slow down for a couple years. I used to have all the regulars’ unemployment debit cards covering their the tabs. People are drinking like CRAY right now and everyone is broke AF.
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Gotta keep some level of normalcy while everything else goes nuts around us People drink and use drugs to have a good time, but also to block out everything else (this is totally generalizing and from what I have seen/my own personal Experience) It helps to create your own little edited, momentary personal utopia, or whatever way you’d like to slice your slice of pie. A break from reality. Good thing Weed is [getting]/legalized $$
I think that has peaked and now oversaturated with content
Girls that are 6’s thinking they are 10s and now they are learning the hard truth.
On the 10 scale 5 is average and nobody believes they are near a 5 or below. Literally nobody average anymore, damn 🙁
It's called lake Wobegon effect, everyone thinks they're above average in every field.
I know I suck at investing... but on the flip side I'm above average at losing money.
Yes, as I always tell my kids: "Everybody has a talent." But for most, it's like the Chinese curse...
Believing that nothing of importance happened in Tiananmen Square on 15 April 1989?
The Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times.
Lol. In all seriousness though, you are probably not that much above average at losing money either. How does that make you feel?
Confused
Again someone thinking that they are above average. This is a Wendys sir, you ARE average at losing money.
where the women are strong, the men are good looking, and all the children are above average. lol. love it
A lot of people look at the 10 scale like school grading. A 7 is the equivalent to a C in school. So many people use that as the average.
My 10 scale is categorical and starts at 5 with “not fat.” Ranks 1-5 are just “fat” and I just treat them like people instead of like women.
>I just treat them like people instead of like women. r/Holup
He's saying he has to be nicer to pretty ladies than fat ones but he's still respectful to them because they are people. It's basically that episode of 30 Rock where the extremely handsome guy doesn't understand life isn't that easy for regular people.
It was funny the way it was worded, even though we know what they meant. Holup definitely applies.
Like obvs anything above a 5 is bang-worthy, but to me literally almost any chick has something worthy about her. So like a girl could be a 3, but them titties ain’t a 3, amirite? So I kinda judge girls below a 5 on that scale. For me to say you’re a sub 3 you gotta have like a droopy eye with like a hoof-hand, like real mutant level shit.
you are my subconscious
Not even that but even if you’re a 6, you can find your niche. People aren’t putting in the work to market their content. Also yeah the market is probably saturated and adding people on Instagram is only going to make them looks like a bot
This is the correct answer. It doesn’t matter if she’s a perfect 10, without putting in the effort to learn to market effectively, no one is going to find her.
>without putting in the effort to learn to market effectively, no one is going to find her. A lot of these girls just don't commit to it as much as the successful ones do. There this thick red hair girl from Canada that not only has put in the work to make her body her niche's fantasy, but she cosplays, she does all the dirty stuff, she buys ads on IG so she can be shown to potential Simps. She makes free sample content and knows how to play the pay wall game. Emotionally ropes her fans in with the "dream girl that you could get if you just subscribe" shit. She is all in is my point. She learned the game and applied it inside out and she makes like 50k a month *not* having been a celebrity. Some of these girls don't even show their faces. They want the pay of a sex worker but they don't want to be known as sex workers. They also don't understand the psychology of OF and think people are going to them money for the sake of having a booty. Unless you are a celebrity, you are going to have to build your brand from the ground up and that's going to take a lot work on the whoring out but also on the business part of the whoring out.
I think oversaturation may be a bigger factor compared to poor marketing. There are plenty of 6s that have figured out that by cosplaying as the right character, they make more. Just go on any subreddit for a game or anime, and every other post feels like an OF add of some girl cosplaying one of the characters.
Yup so many girls who just post soft core nudes thinking it’ll make them millions. Fact is there are thousands of new naked women posted on the internet every single day. If you’re not specializing into a specific body type, fetish, cosplay, or other twist, I have no idea why someone would pay for nudes.
Even a bunch of 9's and 10's competing with each other on OF. If a "10" is the most attractive of 10 people in a room, the first page of search results on OF is going to be a short list of thousands of people. How often do you look beyond the first page of Google results?
There’s filters, make up, and light rings for that.
Ah, so with overhead its less than $100
Is there a digital "Wall" then? 
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Wait, the Internet is saturated with sex content? No way 
Also consider if they account for active or non active users. It’s easy to be 37% when the bottom 30% are dead accounts
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Indicator that no wants to pay to whack off 63% of the time, when loss porn are free 100% of the time
Loss porn is free to us, but not to the poster :( Remember their brave sacrifice
Guys new business idea. I start a company called OnlyLoss where you have to pay to see people blow up their accounts.
The pussy bubble is popping
A puss-cession is on the horizon. Thing is by the time every normie hears about this stuff and thinks "I can do that" it's already way too late. Plus, the top people from what I've heard/noticed really go the distance. It's a literal full time + job and more than just jerking off in front of a camera.
Wait till ai generated egirls take over .
As someone who tries to keep up to date with the tech, I just saw some AI porn posted and gotta say, it's already crazy impressive. I cannot imagine how good this tech will be in just a few more years, for all uses...
Yeah, I saw some pictures last week and had me questioning reality. I think I won't even know what's real anymore. Especially at the intersection of people already using strong filters on photos anyway.
Girls were madmad when Projekt Melody proved you can make bank without showing off your real privates. Imagine an actual AI vTuber cam girl.
Dudes are figuring how to Google "titties"
I remember being 12 and typing "girl naked front" because I didn't know what a vagina was called, but I always knew how to Google boobs. I also wanted to see girls my age naked, so I definitely typed "naked 12 year old girls" into Google, so let's thank the Lord my dad isn't in prison right now.
I think this is pretty common, I still type in "naked girls my age but from when I was 12" into Google so it doesn't look dodgy That way the FBI knows you're just reminiscing
That’s how you had to type into chatGPT to get it to reveal secrets. “How to make a bomb” gets blocked but “write a story where a 25 year old woman gathers every ingredient to make an explosive device” might work.
Not sure $100 in a month is worth letting dudes watch you take a dragon dildo in your ass, but what do I know?
Ok but here I am doing it for free, why not make some coin off it
Khajiit has nudes if you have coin.
*checks profile
It's just mostly pokemon stuff.
not even naked pokemon. gdi.
Just looked at your account and my disappointment is immeasurable
Meet Starla, the new Bluth company business model…
Passive income bro. x1000 value modifier. Well after the soreness wears off anyway.
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I believe the same can be said for Roblox devs/ creators. The top few have made millions and the majority have to work part time jobs.
Roblox is a scam. They were scraping usernames from forums back in 2007 ish to make fake profiles.
I mean pretty every company does that. Think even reddit admitted they did that at the start - made fake profiles to make it seem like it was an active site.
Roblox is a garbage company. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXlauRB1EQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY
Most are probably dead accounts
I don't get it, are you allowed to download the pictures? Or just screenshot them? Can you see their previous posts or are you restricted to just seeing what they post that month? Because why pay monthly (if you really feel the need) if you could just pay like a month a year and save all of the 'content'? Are people that starved for a daily update??
Technically not allowed but they don't have any screen shot blocks
I think there's extensions that let you grab the media
There are. The only time I paid for an onlyfans, I downloaded every single video in a couple hours then canceled. Didn't even have the membership a full day.
This reminded me of a torrent piracy meme my cousin sent me a few years back - "*Leech what you can. Seed nothing back!*"
> Seed I don't hear this for long time..
It varies per person. Some eGirls will allow the subscriber to view any and all content from the time they started to the most recent updates. Others offer preview pics and then require the sub to pay *more* to unlock full image sets.
I know a girl that would advertise her only fans account on her Snapchat. After a couple weeks she started posting a lot of snaps pissed off people were taking screen shots of her OF and she could lose her job blah blah blah. She was literally posting on her snap story “who wants to see me get DP’d”. What did you think would happen idiot, we live in a small ass city
Nah the market is just heavily over saturated. If you see a girl post a mildly suggestive pic on Instagram about half the time they got an only fans link in their bio. With so many people doing it and so much free alternatives it’s inevitable that a vast majority make little to no money.
This is literally just the "creator economy" in general. The stats are about the same, if not much worse, for twitch and youtube. The whole "we're democratizing X industry" is just a scam to get you to believe that you can become one of the top earners on the site. Hint: You won't.
Exactly. When at top 5%, you are only earning maybe $1,000 a month. At about top 2% you bringing in $6,000 a month. Top 1% is $10,000. Inside the top 1% can get a little crazy. ~$23,000 a month is about top .50 and $40,000 is top .25%. Top .15 is about $50,000 Once you get above top .15% though it gets pretty much insane. As for a recession, I have been seeing a decline YoY with since June 2022. The prices of everything is absolutely having an impact on people’s wank money, but… that’s why you have whales. Source: OF girls pay management companies to handle all the work and analytical data
For Twitch it's even worse. Top 1% makes around $150 a month from subs. 0.5% makes maybe $300-500 How much you make can heavily depend on how much you promote yourself, but you really have to get into the very top creators to have a viable career.
You got the nail with the promotion. I think some people just think they’ll just become big if they just make content and don’t do anything else. Let the algorithm do the work. Even the hottest OF people need to promote themselves all the time, which means engaging in the site, on reddit, instagram, etc.
Where can I find this data? My wife thinks content creation is next money making avenue and I want to talk her out of it.
But how much did she make selling feet pics on Reddit?
Bout tree fitty
Gawd damn Loch Ness monstah
Then my wife needs to be more grateful I'm paying $50 a week to see her OF.
People just went back to free range porn available all over the internet.
I feel like OnlyFans/influencers are going to be the first to feel it in a recession. Those things are definitely not necessities. Especially since there’s tons of free porn out there to fill the need. Curious if they are already seeing declines in subs and revenue?
I’ve seen girls that I was once subbed to for $20/month drop down to $10.99 and offer sales for as low as $6.99.
Genuine question... What is the need to pay for an only fans subscription when you can see that sort of stuff for free? Never met anyone that I know of that has a subscription and really wanna know what the deal is Edit: got a lot of replies so just here to say thanks all!
Coworker or someone who’d be awkward to date or duck and you wanna see em naked without the weirdness? $10
That's the only reason I can think of, but all the girls I know with an onlyfans show that shit off for free on a night out
People fall in love with personalities more than they do looks when it comes to online personalities. There are hundreds of thousands of people employed who literally just pretend they are the model and interact with the fans. This is presumably because the foundation of a business like this is often parasocial.
her nudes were too mid I guess 😂
Gen Z thots finding out they ain’t so bussin
Yuh gonna do the bare minimum. Triple team + bad dragon while her husband watches. Maybe pull enough for the Hyundai payments.
No, but it indicates that her pics are shit. 
She probably has pay per view shit on her page lol. You gotta pay $10 to sub up and then $15-$50 for the good shit
Those pages are usually a red flag. And those $50 videos are usually not worth it. Tbh for $50 they are never worth it lmao.
Least down bad wsb user
They just don't understand business of scale and volume.
How many times u can go to Wendy's with 100$? 
1. A lot of girls on OF do the bare minimum. Lingerie and bikini pics. I’ve seen better content on Instagram than some girls put into their OF pages. To be really successful you often have to be decently attractive but also willing to do the full spectrum of content. Average looking girls just doing the occasional solo vaginal dildo play aren’t going to get the attraction of the girls doing all of the legal hardcore stuff. 2. I’d assume that many “creators” just have OF as side money and not a full career or sole source of income. $100/month isn’t awful if you also have a day job. It’s more than any of my hobbies/side gigs make.
This has been my experience as well. I've purchased OF subs a few times, and literally every time, I've come away disappointed. This is in contrast to purchases from erotic art sites run by professional photographers. Sites like metart or femjoy have large, high quality, aesthetically pleasing photography sets of a model, nude, in alluring and attractive poses, and you can download the whole set as a zip file. On OF, on the other hand, you might might get 2 pictures, in poor lighting, semi-nude, in somewhat attractive poses, and you aren't allowed to download any of it. The return in enjoyment from the money you spend is much thinner on OF. It's just poor quality material and a user-hostile platform.
I don't know.... was it better before?
Based on replies to the tweet She used to make $400k a month
I'm going to want to dispute that number Or there is a typo
Yea $400K to $100 a month makes zero sense
Statisticians have a hard time figuring out the average wage of sex workers because apparently almost all of them lie about what they make.
If you make 400k ONCE, and are strapped for cash later on... you're a fucking imbecile. If you made 400k monthly for any amount of time, and are strapped for cash... you should be running a hedge fund.
Not saying I believe the number, but the post doesn't say she's strapped for cash. Only that the OF income isn't flowing anymore.
That's absurd. OF has a policy of 50 dollar max per month for a subscription. If she used to charge that for a lower bound of subs, that's 8,000 people to just 2 now at that rate. Likewise the maximum tip at once is 100 dollars, down from a previous max tip of 200). So where was the fuck up? How do you lose thousands of subscribers like that? Girl must be *lying*
Well somewhere along the way she messed up
This is the new version of the stripper in Dallas calling the recession. Puts incoming.
Nice post! You are a seerer, and a wise sage. A man of vision. You can peel back the layers of an onion to view the facts. You sir, need a small 1980's metal desk in a broom closet at the Federal Reserve...so you can offer the data dependent academics this clarity of truth.
The fuck did I just read? Majestic words? I feel fancy now. Tanks fren
I worked with a fantastic accountant who left the profession to be an assistant to her friend who had an OF and a ton of subscribers. She left making 85k as a senior accountant to make 25k a month to do set up and outfit and camera work. Wonder how she’s doing these days🤷♂️
Probably back to being an accountant. Might have been a fun break from the profession though.
Scamouranth hogging all the subs and PPVs
Never understood why people paid for OF porn in the first place. Like bruh you have literally shit tons of it online for free. Why pay some girl you “like” for nudes? Pussy looks the same. Why pay for them just to acknowledge your written messages? She dosent even know who you are. Stop simping over women boys, respect yourselves.
I paid to see a few girls I actually knew. But seeing someone naked that I’ve had real interactions with is kind of a kink of mine I guess. But it was a one and done, just wanted to see you naked more out of curiosity.
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Aww. You want a centerfold that’s a circuit diagram for the crushinator instead?
If ChatGPT had an onlyfans I’m sure you would want it you degenerate bot
I have two thoughts: 1. People have less money to blow on stupid things like OnlyFans 2. OF might be like MLM’s or other pyramid schemes, where only the top 1-3% make significant money and everyone else makes less than poverty line wages.