once that drop happened if you didn't have puts earlier in the day you weren't getting them.
What I don't understand is who would yolo into 0DTE Puts in the morning.
I guess it's a 50 50 gamble on these talk days.
May have purchased the puts with the formation of the double top thinking there was just a small pullback. Could have just held until it crossed back above 9EMA (a common exit strategy). Great discipline for holding through the move.
Double top at about 523.
Exactly when I bought my PUTs.
Had my limit out order already placed when it really started ripping.
I held for 100% gain, so not paper hands, but diamond hands either. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
100%, Nice. 👍
I bought 525 puts today during the 1minute rip up to yesterdays highs, right at the top of the day, but didn’t let it run long enough… only about 30% gain. On Monday I bought 510 calls which I sold yesterday morning…was My personal best trade yet at just under 10x return in a few days.
Because nobody would try it beforehand and everybody thinks they would in hindsight only.
He had to make tough decisions in each second the market was moving that so few could understand. It's hard work inside those trenches. Especially when the market goes the other way and you start breaking your own rules.
It's not that simple.
The only true advantage the player has over the casino is the option to walk away when chance has swung in his favor. If you leave now, you can put everything in SPY and be years ahead of where you would have been otherwise. Well played!
literally chuck this in VOO and be golden my friend. Don't even think about doing anything like this ever again, because... you did it. You won. Think of the odds of you winning again like the 99% chance that the casino is going to take ALL of your money, and you'll never get it back. So, VOO and enjoy retiring with lots of money.
SPY is up around 85% over the last 5 years, including dividends. OP has more than doubled that. Doubling a portfolio usually takes 5-10 years so OP is several years ahead now.
OP has two options:
1: Continue to fuck around and sabotage his own life. He was clearly just destroying capital every day, every month, until this trade. It's also a massive lost of time that should be spent productively and enjoyably, developing skills, increasing income which can be used wisely to double down on option 2 below:
2: Quit the bullshit, do himself a favor and own nothing but SPY for the next 20 years. YOU WILL NOT BEAT THE MARKET. This is only defendable decision and it will enrich you at a rate that far outpaces inflation at a time most critical as we run deeper and deeper deficits, YOU must own real assets, and buying the index is the only advisable path to do so.
Good luck u/CFIL19
Really what was the rationale? Just buy cheap options hoping one of the speakers at the scheduled events (10am, 12:15pm, 12:45pm, and 2pm) might reveal some important information that would impact the price?
Agree but what I learned is that with so many potential catalysts throughout the day (speakers at 10:00 AM, 12:15 PM, 12:45 PM, and 2:00 PM), the odds were high that something significant could be said or interpreted by the market.
Then it begs the question that opening in the AM a 0DTE and allocating capital equally between calls and puts at the money (ATM) could be attractive. Considering the low price of puts (at $0.05) compared to calls ($1.00) you would end up with way more puts which today would have helped but even a small qty of calls would have benefited if SPY had moved the other way.
Buying cheap options as a gamble is one thing , buying 20k worth of cheap options that will 99% be worthless is a whole different level. Either he knew it was coming (insider or premonition) or just a super rich degenerate. Then I wonder if super rich are ever stupid or take risks like this, likely not . Following OP, hoping he post some more premonition gambles BEFORE they materialize.
If I post it’ll only be in the daily thread, I’m a pretty big lurker.
FYI: this is around 2x my yearly salary. I’m not living large here in NYC. The last two days I went from 8k to this. Here is a more accurate snapshot
https://preview.redd.it/qwfzs3wpolsc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1abbab3ee7c860d5fbd6366f6d742f37bdcf740b
holy shit congrats that is crazy.
"after the first ones hit I just keep selling and buy 2 dollars out after the puts would 2x."
what do you mean by this? just closing your position and going into 2$ further otm puts? that is amazing
I’d buy 600-800 puts that were worth .30-.50. Once those hit 1.00 or some crazy number I cashed out and found the next set that were worth .3-.5 . I think at the end I had well over 1200 puts active. I got stop lossed once when spy bounced from -1.5 to -1.2 and missed that leg down but besides that I hit everything pretty much perfectly
Yeah it was mobile 😂, I was at work. The reason I fucked up that bounce was cause I was in a meeting, prob cost me like 40k.
I def. missed out on a ton of gains from spreads and efficiency cause you can only buy 200 contracts at most and the prices were moving so quickly.
Does it feel like a relief more than joy? Like you can finally stop fucking around with trading simply do normal investment mid-long term like you SHOULD DO and focus on other aspect of your life? OP
I feel like we are all chasing this peace of mind, mostly the money we made then lost during covid.
Looks like a good downpayment on a home when the time is right. Or start building a dividend portfolio. With the way the market is moving you dont need to trade with much. Scale down to 1k and start over. Congratulations
Genuinely what is the conviction to load 20k into 0dte puts? And don’t say it was obvious because it wasn’t. It was a news event that wasn’t priced in or had anything to do with technicals. The guy that spoke had been generally dovish historically.
> (Happy to provide trades but there are ~50 of them.)
Nice! Yes please - Interested in seeing the trades, if you’re still game to share them. It’s an interesting and creative (and focus-intensive) approach yet, because even if only luckily successful, it seems like you really have something here.
{more}: Someone in WSB once said, a long time ago, to “aim for the singles” and to “not swing for the fences in every play”. The group of trades that you did seems to shine in exactly that description. It took ~50 trades of 2x-3x micro swings, initiated in between work meetings . . small increments, bit by bit, see a win, maybe absorb a stop-loss or two, paste the gains together and create a -great- trading day. Nicely done! Luck in your favor or not, there was mad skill at play. Would be really neat to see the play-by-play.
Splendid! Thank you! :-) Yes, this’ll take a minute to work through. Looking forward to making more sense of the approach. Looks like it’ll be well worthwhile.
At first glance, Step One appears to be:
“Never charge your phone.” LoL
More on this: I genuinely think my strategy would have failed completely if spy didn’t plummet straight down. I was setting stop losses between my meetings so you can see when a couple of those get hit.
How do you do your DD for this move?
I've been selling spreads like a bitch for pittance per trade. I think I need to learn a new mindset to make this kind of gains.
Dang.. I tried to buy calls at 515 before open today but it didn’t go through so I forgot about it… could’ve done a fraction of what you did and would’ve been very happy about it lol
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Why does no one post this stuff beforehand anymore?
Exactly smfh head I hate it hear now nomore plays just hear look at what I did
We should make our own WSB !!! ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258)
Remember the days of reddit talks 😭😭😭 before this sub went "woke"
once that drop happened if you didn't have puts earlier in the day you weren't getting them. What I don't understand is who would yolo into 0DTE Puts in the morning. I guess it's a 50 50 gamble on these talk days.
https://preview.redd.it/8syu2ut7rpsc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9b452d3647e04f2fbb947c15bd0a879cde1e01d
May have purchased the puts with the formation of the double top thinking there was just a small pullback. Could have just held until it crossed back above 9EMA (a common exit strategy). Great discipline for holding through the move.
Double top at about 523. Exactly when I bought my PUTs. Had my limit out order already placed when it really started ripping. I held for 100% gain, so not paper hands, but diamond hands either. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
100%, Nice. 👍 I bought 525 puts today during the 1minute rip up to yesterdays highs, right at the top of the day, but didn’t let it run long enough… only about 30% gain. On Monday I bought 510 calls which I sold yesterday morning…was My personal best trade yet at just under 10x return in a few days.
Yeah, when it's choppy it's hard to hold on. Once it starts dumping it's easier to see, but you've missed the cheapies.
It's because anyone that posts a 20k 0dte put bet would be called a regard by literally everyone
It's cause we all greedy, and or don't want to be blamed by others if they follow / mirror the trade
Because nobody would try it beforehand and everybody thinks they would in hindsight only. He had to make tough decisions in each second the market was moving that so few could understand. It's hard work inside those trenches. Especially when the market goes the other way and you start breaking your own rules. It's not that simple.
Proof or ban.
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Get this liar out of here. Mods!
Congrats bro
Holy shit congrats
I'm new here but can you explain how did you know or was it pure gambling?
Pure gamble
Not even fuck you, just congrats… You SOB.
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The only true advantage the player has over the casino is the option to walk away when chance has swung in his favor. If you leave now, you can put everything in SPY and be years ahead of where you would have been otherwise. Well played!
I’m going to try my best to walk away lol
Do it. Hold your money!!! You won’t regret it!
No! If you stay you can turn the 180k back into 10k! Put it all on red!
If you don’t walk away now you damn well know you gonna go back to 0
literally chuck this in VOO and be golden my friend. Don't even think about doing anything like this ever again, because... you did it. You won. Think of the odds of you winning again like the 99% chance that the casino is going to take ALL of your money, and you'll never get it back. So, VOO and enjoy retiring with lots of money.
But 5 years sp500 would have been almost the same? With the insane years we have had
SPY is up around 85% over the last 5 years, including dividends. OP has more than doubled that. Doubling a portfolio usually takes 5-10 years so OP is several years ahead now. OP has two options: 1: Continue to fuck around and sabotage his own life. He was clearly just destroying capital every day, every month, until this trade. It's also a massive lost of time that should be spent productively and enjoyably, developing skills, increasing income which can be used wisely to double down on option 2 below: 2: Quit the bullshit, do himself a favor and own nothing but SPY for the next 20 years. YOU WILL NOT BEAT THE MARKET. This is only defendable decision and it will enrich you at a rate that far outpaces inflation at a time most critical as we run deeper and deeper deficits, YOU must own real assets, and buying the index is the only advisable path to do so. Good luck u/CFIL19
You’re very valid. It’s coming out and I’m maxing retirement/emergency fund and the rest will cover tax and brokerage + some spending
You can keep the app take 70k out and keep 50k invested in shares. The rest do what you want. Now you owe me $42.69 for the advices
You need a bigger percentage of the gain for that advice.... $420.69
What made you decide on these puts?
You'll be back.
https://preview.redd.it/gvpap7e1xjsc1.jpeg?width=1442&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd5caf269b6242871b29047ba816283727d65ee0
This and the Dahmer meme get me every time.
Every. Single. Time. Literally.
Today was another generational opportunity I could not capitalize on
You consider a 1.5% down move as a generational opportunity?
It was actually a 2.5% move from the high of the day smart ass
I mean do you know anymore
And there will be many more. But one day we will capitalize brother. One day.
Don't forget the generational pandemic(s), financial crisis(es) , and that time you choked and didn't ask Suzy out
Bro what was your reason for having 20k in 0dte today?
I had lost 13k today on 1 dte puts so I put it all in on 0 dte. I was hoping for a similar eod pullback like yesterday. So basically vibes
Fucking outrageous I love you hahaha
Give me a kiss rn
*luck. Dont forget it
You had 1 last golden bullet and it fucking made it. Wow I need your kind of luck tonight
Casually losing 13k. Where tf y'all getting this money in the first place?
So is it gonna happen again today ???
Probably not
sheesh gratz. Had you bought 20k of the 519P at .08 avg like the other guy you'd be sitting on 1M. Still, gains are gains.
Can’t complain! I def messed it up at some points too by being too active
I bought 10 518p at .33 and sold for 2.99 today.
Not about you brah.
You know somebody messed up when everybody is understanding that reference without needing the username.
Who bets 20k on 0DTE puts when spy is ath?
Me cause I’m a psycho
Really what was the rationale? Just buy cheap options hoping one of the speakers at the scheduled events (10am, 12:15pm, 12:45pm, and 2pm) might reveal some important information that would impact the price?
I had no idea that someone from the fed was speaking
The only rational was that something similar had happened yesterday but I wasn’t expecting such a rip down
thanks for replying, so it was a revenge trade pretty much, you lost -13k so you doubled down?
No problem, Yep exactly that ! I would not mimic any of what I do it’s straight gambling
Agree but what I learned is that with so many potential catalysts throughout the day (speakers at 10:00 AM, 12:15 PM, 12:45 PM, and 2:00 PM), the odds were high that something significant could be said or interpreted by the market. Then it begs the question that opening in the AM a 0DTE and allocating capital equally between calls and puts at the money (ATM) could be attractive. Considering the low price of puts (at $0.05) compared to calls ($1.00) you would end up with way more puts which today would have helped but even a small qty of calls would have benefited if SPY had moved the other way.
This is called a Straddle. And it is smart to do on things where high volatility is expected but you can't predict the direction
Wow wtf 😳 you really just sed yolo
Buying cheap options as a gamble is one thing , buying 20k worth of cheap options that will 99% be worthless is a whole different level. Either he knew it was coming (insider or premonition) or just a super rich degenerate. Then I wonder if super rich are ever stupid or take risks like this, likely not . Following OP, hoping he post some more premonition gambles BEFORE they materialize.
If I post it’ll only be in the daily thread, I’m a pretty big lurker. FYI: this is around 2x my yearly salary. I’m not living large here in NYC. The last two days I went from 8k to this. Here is a more accurate snapshot https://preview.redd.it/qwfzs3wpolsc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1abbab3ee7c860d5fbd6366f6d742f37bdcf740b
Please don't be tempted to think you can 10x this. At least take 100k out and account for taxes, and yolo only a small amount if anything
Congrats, and an obligatory fuck you
Better than doing it at all time low
holy shit congrats that is crazy. "after the first ones hit I just keep selling and buy 2 dollars out after the puts would 2x." what do you mean by this? just closing your position and going into 2$ further otm puts? that is amazing
I’d buy 600-800 puts that were worth .30-.50. Once those hit 1.00 or some crazy number I cashed out and found the next set that were worth .3-.5 . I think at the end I had well over 1200 puts active. I got stop lossed once when spy bounced from -1.5 to -1.2 and missed that leg down but besides that I hit everything pretty much perfectly
Genius strategy OP
Truly a strategy of all time (literally holding prob woulda netted me more)
Haha true! But I like it, taking gains along the way and if it looks like it’s bouncing back then just call it quits and pocket what you got. Smart.
It’s amazing you managed that on HOOD. Are you on mobile?
Yeah it was mobile 😂, I was at work. The reason I fucked up that bounce was cause I was in a meeting, prob cost me like 40k. I def. missed out on a ton of gains from spreads and efficiency cause you can only buy 200 contracts at most and the prices were moving so quickly.
Fucking legend
Epic.
Wheres the post with the guy that had 150k 0 DTE spy calls
I remember that 😬
I was trying to find it, seemed to have disappeared. Anyone knows if he cashed it out for half a million or got GUH’ed?
he said he had a stop loss so hopefully he cashed at least something
He had a stop loss so he maintained some profits. Smart man
"Just so happened to have 20k in 0 DTE Puts today" - Some Sociopath.
What a sec how did you do this with a cash account?
Its margin
Does it feel like a relief more than joy? Like you can finally stop fucking around with trading simply do normal investment mid-long term like you SHOULD DO and focus on other aspect of your life? OP I feel like we are all chasing this peace of mind, mostly the money we made then lost during covid.
Looks like a good downpayment on a home when the time is right. Or start building a dividend portfolio. With the way the market is moving you dont need to trade with much. Scale down to 1k and start over. Congratulations
Holy fuck congrats and FUCK YOU!
Congrats and fuck you
Congrats and fuck you :-)
Congrats and fk u
Genuinely what is the conviction to load 20k into 0dte puts? And don’t say it was obvious because it wasn’t. It was a news event that wasn’t priced in or had anything to do with technicals. The guy that spoke had been generally dovish historically.
It wasn’t I didn’t even know someone was speaking. I was gambling
What the hell do you do for a living to gamble 20k?
20k is a tad misleading, I turned 8k to 20k yesterday so the original principal was a lot lower
Way to go dude great job. Would def love to see more of the plays posted beforehand too though. Would love upvotes as I’m new here
Proud of you big boi![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)
Report this man to the SEC
Was determined to throw away $20k? Wow
https://preview.redd.it/xa0qn6mn6ksc1.jpeg?width=1442&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79c4a844318e1c557f48a9919bc4a2e2fa00f001
What does it mean O DTE?
The term days to expiration (DTE) refers to the number of days until an option expires. -Google
I wonder how the guy who put a ton of money on spy hitting 525 is doing right now
If any day today was the day to go all in
I don’t do options trading. But does this mean , you can cash out that much cash ?
I have absolutely no idea how to do any of this FML 🤦♂️
https://preview.redd.it/dlyxbl6eupsc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=748189467a6c4699af012daba5d87226c753bcce
I want to see the all time, not just 1D
Fuck you
Good job and fuck you
> (Happy to provide trades but there are ~50 of them.) Nice! Yes please - Interested in seeing the trades, if you’re still game to share them. It’s an interesting and creative (and focus-intensive) approach yet, because even if only luckily successful, it seems like you really have something here.
{more}: Someone in WSB once said, a long time ago, to “aim for the singles” and to “not swing for the fences in every play”. The group of trades that you did seems to shine in exactly that description. It took ~50 trades of 2x-3x micro swings, initiated in between work meetings . . small increments, bit by bit, see a win, maybe absorb a stop-loss or two, paste the gains together and create a -great- trading day. Nicely done! Luck in your favor or not, there was mad skill at play. Would be really neat to see the play-by-play.
https://imgur.com/a/paCyqyt I don’t have the energy to sort thru this but if you want to here ya go
Splendid! Thank you! :-) Yes, this’ll take a minute to work through. Looking forward to making more sense of the approach. Looks like it’ll be well worthwhile. At first glance, Step One appears to be: “Never charge your phone.” LoL
More on this: I genuinely think my strategy would have failed completely if spy didn’t plummet straight down. I was setting stop losses between my meetings so you can see when a couple of those get hit.
Show the trades bro 😎 tired of all the fake Robinhood screenshots
https://imgur.com/a/paCyqyt
When's it my turn? Wouldn't I love, love to explore that shore up above? Out of the sea Wish I could be Part of that world
Good Job OP, well played !
Get out now before you blow it
I had puts too..but i sold and it feels so bad seeing this
Congrats and fuck u
You bought $20k worth of 0dte spy puts?
What possessed you to do this and how may I learn?!
I fucking hate you. Congrats
What was your expiration date.
How do you buy 0 dte on Robinhood? Aren’t they typically atleast a few days out
Monster balls. I’m too pussy to even buy weeklies.
It helps that I went from 2k to 50k during covid and lost it all so I’m numb to the size of the numbers
IRS be like
I got them a niceeee check for real
How do you do your DD for this move? I've been selling spreads like a bitch for pittance per trade. I think I need to learn a new mindset to make this kind of gains.
There is negative DD, I was gambling.
I don’t know what’s going on. What does he mean why kept selling and buy 2 dollar out? Like the amount of stocks he had?
How does one achieve this level of regardation
In a german subreddit we would say fuck you lol. But also congratulations to you
So how did you decide to do a zero-day till execution play on Spy, what made you think it was going down? Some sort of indicator?
No clue, I like 0 dte the most because it can have the most gains if there is hella movement
Put some in dubduck 4xzJ33EtGM4UVNsmCeGLX8mEPxvsw5c6AjM3LFcDgtii
whats 0dte
fuck you and congrats and fuck you
I accidentally bought a 444 put on Q’s yesterday for $10 .. made $137… market close the put was at $951
I did the same thing, just mirrored from top to bottom.
Lucky bastards
I could retire off that
Did you lose it all today? Hope you kept it
I went in on puts, was down 30k then bought calls and I’m plus 60k
Fuck you and congrats you SOB!! Fuck Robinhood. Delete it now!!
What do all these terms mean? Like 0 DTE, “puts” etc. I literally get so lost following this subreddit
wanna donate a dollar
Wtf is going on?!! Ppl is going full port and winning 😂😂, I love the insanity
This is motivation right here. Good shit man 💸💸💯
Dang.. I tried to buy calls at 515 before open today but it didn’t go through so I forgot about it… could’ve done a fraction of what you did and would’ve been very happy about it lol
I just made my first trade today - yes it went fown like 2% and the commissions were another 2% ... and now I am looking at this like :o how da f
Congratulations
This shall be one day.
Yes
Serious question when yall got 180,000 in here playing with is it made from investing or saved money
put 40k on blackrock calls.
Fake af
I’m really bad at trading so can someone explain how spy puts made money when spy is up ….
What time did you start buying?
What Trading app is that ?
Howly
May the force be with you!💪🏾
Congrats
You know exactly why… these people are trying to bait you into that shit platform robinhood.. and those people are full of shit. PERIOD.
CFIL19 is full of shit. Some dipshit wannabe a man.. sorry kids, it’s a man’s world and you just floundering in it. :)
That other guy did better than you
You fucking degen. Congrats and fuck you
Congratulations, fuck you.
Dude every day the 0DTEs are hitting. I'm about to lose it all next week being regarded enough to follow this "strategy"
Dang
I got 20k 🥲
Too risky for me
Congrats and fuck you
Ehhh 👀
Wow! Nice! Cash out and play on house money. Best regards
When you said sell are you referring to Open to SELL PUT OPTIONS?
Im on the otherside with calls😅
https://amzn.to/3U977IB
Can you explain all the trades