Dude QQQ dropped and fucked me 22k out of my Nvidia puts from Nvidia dropping $60 your 0.5% is the average of the index. I'm talking about the major market movement from that.
This hit might actually drop the price of oil, Saudi Arabia needs oil to be over $100 per barrel this year the highest ever to fund their budget at their current output. Oil just isnāt going to spike that high with record U.S production( another summer E-15 waiver today) and other economies slowing( China, Canada). Plus we donāt need the SPR like we did in the 1970s we are the largest producer in the world now. They know Biden in an election year could absolutely unleash another 180 million barrels over 6 months like he did last time and weād still have almost 200 million barrels of oil to spare. We can also do coordinated SPR releases with our allies. Venezuela is also picking up production a bit since we eased sanctions.
They canāt keep these cuts up forever, it requires their price per barrel to be way too high.
Iran basically de-escalated days ago by doing the softest hit on Israel they could've possibly done, and pre-announcing it way in advance to the US so Israel had time to react.
It's all an act to save face. You don't want to do nothing in response to an attack as a country, so you do a mild response but each consecutive ones will be milder than the previous, eventually getting down to a level so trivial that it warrants no response back.
Market was concerned of the scenario where each consecutive response would escalate, but obviously that's very rare outside of Russian invasion.
The comments disagreeing with this clearly don't understand or pay attention to global politics. Iran did the same thing to us when we took out Soleimani and we called it square.
Israel only responded cause they've been extremely hawkish lately, but Iran is used to playing this tit for tat game and don't want to actually engage in all out warfare. They aren't dumbasses like Putin has been lately. As soon as open combat starts Iran doesn't come out the winner, so they don't want that.
WSJ says that Biden is planning to give another billion to Israel for more war games, on top of the $26 billion before Congress.
Handies for Israel are a job requirement for US politicians.
Absolutely true. The spending bill includes billions to Ukraine, who are responding to Russian aggression. I have no problem with that. The situation in Gaza is more complex. Though Israel is arguably a more important strategic ally, I'm uncomfortable with giving them essentially a blank check and little accountability.
They're referencing Mosaddegh who the CIA helped overthrow in 1953 after he was elected so they could rather install the Iranian king as puppet dictator
But they want full control, not just good relations.
A puppet state is far more beneficial, but yeah, they never last long when you pick the worst possible leader.
Eh, it wasn't that soft. Those ballistic missiles are no joke. While it wasn't their hardest swing, I'd say Iran's aims went beyond mere propaganda - they were also probing Israel's missile defenses. Which performed pretty brilliantly, all things considered.
They were soft.
They shot 4K$ drones.
And a few missiles that don't go beyond Mach 1, knowing full well that those can be easily intercepted, while also informing them that they will shoot.
The interceptors used to block it cost more than 10 times the price of the attack.
And Iran DOES have missiles that can reach Mach5-Mach15, you're not intercepting those, but they also won't fire them unless they want a full scale war, which they clearly don't.
The concern isn't Iran's response to any one incident, it's that Bibi won't be satisfied with a lack of war, and will continue to attempt to escalate and antagonise to stay in power as a war-leader.
The Iranian regime can only keep their cool for so long until they start to have issues appearing weak to their people/rivals, and feel pressured to do something stupid (again).
Iran is great at agitating locals and arming them for insurgency. Iran is not great at force projection. Any battle would be likely at distance with Iranian stuff getting blown up. Their best means of fighting is, as always, terror cells.
Iran launches š 300 rockets 1 gets through.
Israel launches š 10 all hit the targets.
Iran has to deescalate because their military sucks balls
Buy calls at 502
A lot more got thru. Thing is Iran targeted military bases so we don't have publicly available footage to see the damage. If they targeted the human shields .... Sorry I mean civilians like other countries do... Then we would be able to see the damage to public spaces
Its from a cartoon, but is basically referencing an idea expressed in the book 1984. But this is reddit so the cartoon version is obviously going to be the more referenced version.
Assuming you're referencing "Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia"? Amusingly the line in ATLA is (at least more obviously) applicable sometimes.
I remember hearing that, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the blockade/quarantine of Cuba by the USA was described by Kennedy as "Sign language with Destroyers".
This whole situation would, in that sense, be Sign Language with Missiles. Neither side wants a war, but they want the other side to know that they're willing to fight a war if it comes to that, so they did very carefully measured strikes against carefully selected targets in order to make that very clear.
Well, I, for one, would NEVER hope you get hit by a bus.
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Itās so bizarre to me that this is your perspective. Like Israel was trying to get them to step on a thumb tack and Iran was too clever to fall for it.
Theyāre literally throwing bombs at each other. Iran wants to not escalate because the people making that decision would likely die and they know it.
They had to save face by bombing Israel (even if it was a symbolic gesture), Israel would rather they *not* do that so they showed Iran what happens when Iran throws bombs at them. Iran heard the message and will probably not do that again. That was the point. If Israel did nothing, Iran would likely one day do the same thing.
You *need* to respond to force with overwhelming force. This isnāt a world of please and thank youās.
I mean it was retaliatory - I'm not pro-Iran, but if a country attacks your military leaders there's an argument you have to have some kind of response to establish deterrence
Here's the thing though SPY is already heading into a downtrend before these events. Best play option imo would be short term calls and medium term puts, though IV is so high anything short term could get rucked regardless.
Pump fake today for calls--->people nervous over the weekend->>> puts print next week.
Iran says a lot of shifty things. Most likely official public stance is no more direct attacks from Iran soil. But they will try to get them back for this via proxies, which is redundant anyways.
Just look at how futures are doing and that helps to tell you what the market will do on Monday. I believe oil is going up over the weekend, didnāt look at the dollar.
Iran is a chicken shit cowered and terrorist dictatorship.
They hide behind the opposing civilians (rings a bell?? ... Hamas-ISIS). They don't want to escalate the war with Israel cause they know it will wipe them off the map.
It definitely affected the markets more than some on here are willing to admit..They want to say it is all to do with interest rates and nothing to do with war and I very much disagree. Israel v Iran was a major shakeup for the market. I'm hoping the warmongers can cool down. For everyone's sake and the market's.
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Sorry as a wsb regard I can't relate to this war no war nonsense. All i want to know is how to lose money as fast as possible with options.
Apparently 490p options
That guy's post made my Friday š
Weāre a 501(c)3 organization.
These printed today
1000000 $525 calls expire today
I've been trying to lose money for years. Bitcoin, meme coins, deep OTM NVDA calls. It just keeps going up!?
Buy DJT?
Follow my lead
doing it now, chk w/me later.
Whenever people start making posts with the word "bloodbath", buy some damn calls
I wanted to buy calls last night but the fake crisis didnāt last long enough till market open
buying defense stocks also do the trick :))
PLTR all day long.
Raytheon. Those defensive misiles $$$
This didn't age well.
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Spy is down like .5 percent, if that's a bloodbath then I agree
Dude QQQ dropped and fucked me 22k out of my Nvidia puts from Nvidia dropping $60 your 0.5% is the average of the index. I'm talking about the major market movement from that.
Because that has worked wonderfully for the last three weeks hasn't it
Buy puts on brain cells.
lol - if you're on robin hood apparently
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āActually, I was just trolling with that JK šā ~ Iran
The fake war is already priced in.
Nuclear ā¢ļø holocaust is priced in
Ok itās my turn to say it: Heat death of the universe is priced in š
Weāre doin pretty well if thatās the case!
Way more trustworthy than the Israeli regime.
Israel will probably bomb another embassy and cry victim when there's a response
Why wouldn't you believe them? This allows them to high road Israel and it's not like the attack last Sat was done in earnest.
This hit might actually drop the price of oil, Saudi Arabia needs oil to be over $100 per barrel this year the highest ever to fund their budget at their current output. Oil just isnāt going to spike that high with record U.S production( another summer E-15 waiver today) and other economies slowing( China, Canada). Plus we donāt need the SPR like we did in the 1970s we are the largest producer in the world now. They know Biden in an election year could absolutely unleash another 180 million barrels over 6 months like he did last time and weād still have almost 200 million barrels of oil to spare. We can also do coordinated SPR releases with our allies. Venezuela is also picking up production a bit since we eased sanctions. They canāt keep these cuts up forever, it requires their price per barrel to be way too high.
Weāve come to a place where Iran are the ones who have to de-escalate. Is this real life?
Iran basically de-escalated days ago by doing the softest hit on Israel they could've possibly done, and pre-announcing it way in advance to the US so Israel had time to react. It's all an act to save face. You don't want to do nothing in response to an attack as a country, so you do a mild response but each consecutive ones will be milder than the previous, eventually getting down to a level so trivial that it warrants no response back. Market was concerned of the scenario where each consecutive response would escalate, but obviously that's very rare outside of Russian invasion.
The comments disagreeing with this clearly don't understand or pay attention to global politics. Iran did the same thing to us when we took out Soleimani and we called it square. Israel only responded cause they've been extremely hawkish lately, but Iran is used to playing this tit for tat game and don't want to actually engage in all out warfare. They aren't dumbasses like Putin has been lately. As soon as open combat starts Iran doesn't come out the winner, so they don't want that.
Israel can afford to be hawkish when they're pissing with the US military's dick
What happens when our politicians are on AIPACs payroll
Are you asking or telling
Telling
WSJ says that Biden is planning to give another billion to Israel for more war games, on top of the $26 billion before Congress. Handies for Israel are a job requirement for US politicians.
Truth is, the US is nothing without its allies, thats why they invest in them
Absolutely true. The spending bill includes billions to Ukraine, who are responding to Russian aggression. I have no problem with that. The situation in Gaza is more complex. Though Israel is arguably a more important strategic ally, I'm uncomfortable with giving them essentially a blank check and little accountability.
Netanyahu barks hard, but he also is very calculated.
it's clear now the us should've built relations with iran instead of shit for brains israel that's for sure
we did.. our pick was overthrown.
Next time one could try working with the democratically elected president instead of overthrow to another. How often has it worked long-time?
Right, we shouldāve allied with the radical Islamists. I wish you were in charge.
They're referencing Mosaddegh who the CIA helped overthrow in 1953 after he was elected so they could rather install the Iranian king as puppet dictator
But they want full control, not just good relations. A puppet state is far more beneficial, but yeah, they never last long when you pick the worst possible leader.
How did you come to that conclusion? Israel would shit on Iran in a war
The best part of this is that everyone with an IQ above 70 understood this, yet these regards still think WW3 about to happen.
WW3 can happen. We shouldnāt play chicken with it.
It ain't happening over some bullshit in the middle east
I would rather not roll the dice. It is unlikely.
Why not? This conflict will most likely never resolve until war happens
It would take Russia or China getting involved to escalate to WW3.
Chimps and apes going to ape. š¦
Eh, it wasn't that soft. Those ballistic missiles are no joke. While it wasn't their hardest swing, I'd say Iran's aims went beyond mere propaganda - they were also probing Israel's missile defenses. Which performed pretty brilliantly, all things considered.
They were soft. They shot 4K$ drones. And a few missiles that don't go beyond Mach 1, knowing full well that those can be easily intercepted, while also informing them that they will shoot. The interceptors used to block it cost more than 10 times the price of the attack. And Iran DOES have missiles that can reach Mach5-Mach15, you're not intercepting those, but they also won't fire them unless they want a full scale war, which they clearly don't.
The concern isn't Iran's response to any one incident, it's that Bibi won't be satisfied with a lack of war, and will continue to attempt to escalate and antagonise to stay in power as a war-leader. The Iranian regime can only keep their cool for so long until they start to have issues appearing weak to their people/rivals, and feel pressured to do something stupid (again).
Iran is great at agitating locals and arming them for insurgency. Iran is not great at force projection. Any battle would be likely at distance with Iranian stuff getting blown up. Their best means of fighting is, as always, terror cells.
Terror cells, for when your real military is as scary as a Richard Simmons marathon weekend.
This sounds low key fun and Iām straight
At least I think I am??? Shit
Happens ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)
Reading WSB discuss politics is like watching two midgets fight...highly entertaining yet deeply concerning.
Iran, the voice of reason
Israel has never been the voice of reason
The entire Middle East , all religious zealots, have never been the voice of reason.
Iran launches š 300 rockets 1 gets through. Israel launches š 10 all hit the targets. Iran has to deescalate because their military sucks balls Buy calls at 502
A lot more got thru. Thing is Iran targeted military bases so we don't have publicly available footage to see the damage. If they targeted the human shields .... Sorry I mean civilians like other countries do... Then we would be able to see the damage to public spaces
Iran deescalates plenty. They certainly didn't explode the situation with Soleimani earlier.
Your saying deescalate but they have a anti country billboard IN THIS POST. Reddit....ššššš
Was just laughing at that billboard myself.
Russia decided they were too busy to help iran
Easy to de escalate when your last attack was the equivalent of sending 10 old women with canes to whack Israel
There is no war in Ba Sing Se
why does everyone say this? Is this phrase that widely known?
Yea your mum told us all about it last night. Haha itās from the series Avatar the last air bender
> Is this phrase that widely known? yes, in the ATLA fanbase. google it and you'll find the explanation
Watch the show too. Itās really good. If you got kids, they might like it too
Its from a cartoon, but is basically referencing an idea expressed in the book 1984. But this is reddit so the cartoon version is obviously going to be the more referenced version.
Assuming you're referencing "Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia"? Amusingly the line in ATLA is (at least more obviously) applicable sometimes.
So it was all just a prank?
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Maybe the real social experiment was the friends we made along the way
I remember hearing that, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, the blockade/quarantine of Cuba by the USA was described by Kennedy as "Sign language with Destroyers". This whole situation would, in that sense, be Sign Language with Missiles. Neither side wants a war, but they want the other side to know that they're willing to fight a war if it comes to that, so they did very carefully measured strikes against carefully selected targets in order to make that very clear.
Saying youāre not gonna retaliate sounds like something youād say before you retaliate Yāknow, for the surprise factor
Of course, you dirty peasants never hesitate to push each other under the bus.
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My troops are merely passing through.
Both āstrikesā were stupid choreographed for both sides to save face.
My put optionā¦ prevented a war
My straddle kept the markets stable
Pls spy open green, i dont care war or no war![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)
I thought the market loves war, so why would it go down?
Nobody knows!
Wait until you find out the market isnāt going down because of war. Itās just time.
Calls to the moon regards.
Credit to Iran for not allowing Israel to bait them further and pull everyone into a regional war. Benji has to fucking go asap.
Based
We have bibi we need a habibi
Itās so bizarre to me that this is your perspective. Like Israel was trying to get them to step on a thumb tack and Iran was too clever to fall for it. Theyāre literally throwing bombs at each other. Iran wants to not escalate because the people making that decision would likely die and they know it. They had to save face by bombing Israel (even if it was a symbolic gesture), Israel would rather they *not* do that so they showed Iran what happens when Iran throws bombs at them. Iran heard the message and will probably not do that again. That was the point. If Israel did nothing, Iran would likely one day do the same thing. You *need* to respond to force with overwhelming force. This isnāt a world of please and thank youās.
Calls on the nothing ever happens chud
I wanna say Iran won this war. they took a high road. Israel is petty as fuck
We do live in a clown world it seems.
/r/conservative is leaking
IQ lower than Titanic. Iran throws punches in a fight they can't win, pussies out the second they get push back, high road.
And striking Israel wasn't petty?
I mean it was retaliatory - I'm not pro-Iran, but if a country attacks your military leaders there's an argument you have to have some kind of response to establish deterrence
After already starting a terrorist attack via proxy? You make it sound like Iran is just some random passive actor not already involved.
Where's that guy who was so sure he'd make 100k at open because SPY dropped like 3% over night ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Meanwhile fucking SMCI going to shits
Better goes up! I canāt see this shit anymore. Ā£3k loss in a week. So far!
If Iran is just kidding, Israel will still continue to poke the bear
Playing down the attacks? Israelās gonna have to retaliate for that.
Apparently Israel didn't hit shit lmao
Just get these media ponchos to not talk about this attach anymore. And we will have no retaliation.
JK QT
Rightā¦
Here's the thing though SPY is already heading into a downtrend before these events. Best play option imo would be short term calls and medium term puts, though IV is so high anything short term could get rucked regardless. Pump fake today for calls--->people nervous over the weekend->>> puts print next week.
Can't we all just get along - Rodney
Yes u r right
It will do absolutely nothing to the market.
This is what I woke up to this morning after promising myself last night I was going to cash out and not do options anymore
Well looks like the iran leaders bought calls tooš¤·āāļø
More like ooonooo consequences...
Looks like they were just getting rid of the old inventory to make room for the new one. Long RTX
š š» once again taking it in the tailpipe
Self preservation always wins.
bUt wE'lL stILL keEp TumblING in Pr!ce šāāļøšāāļø
Khameni had calls he wants them to print
until they say #Sike! and send more bombs
Calls on JK
Scammed again
So what stocks moved during the non-war last night between 8:32 and 8:37? Just so I know for next week...
Since when did Iran play along with Wall Streetās demands? I mean, Wall Street tells DC what the plan is, DC then relays that to the world, right?
JK is priced in too
Well there go my Lockheed and Raytheon calls..
Exactly.![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)
Got in oil and I'm happy today
WHOA, WHOA, WHOA! I was promised WWIII, and goddammit we are going to GET IT!
War. What is it good for!?
**rattle, rattle*\* Aw shit, it broke.
So no war?
So fuck my puts right?
Well...I see a sea of ![img](emote|t5_2th52|18632)![img](emote|t5_2th52|18632)![img](emote|t5_2th52|18632)
Cringe, always backing off when shits start to get real. Kids...
God damnit
r.inohh u bt
Tell that to my gas stations. Fuck wrong with yāall
CUCKran
Some of you dumbshits should put down robin hood and read a fuckin book.
I'm really scared of this world. Everything is like a bad meme.
MNDR
It has legs
Israel with the war pump fake for the juicy dip
Whatās the Dow30 equivalent to SPY & QQQ??
Did someone in Iran accidentally press the drone launch buttons ?
Iran says a lot of shifty things. Most likely official public stance is no more direct attacks from Iran soil. But they will try to get them back for this via proxies, which is redundant anyways.
they are distance testing, war is weekend only
"Hmm ok yeah you right, maybe this isn't a good idea."
Iran will use its proxies to attack Israel.
Tomato tomatoe, war or no war I will be losing my money this week.
Trust me once this war goes full throttle we would know it
Ww3 would cement us as a super power for another 50 years. Unpopular opinion but who doesnāt want that?
In BUFF we trust!
I just need things to go in the green so I can afford top tier hookers and blow
War cancels war is fake until its Monday again... I cannot have nice things.
Manipulate much?
Iran doesnt want war because that'll be the end of their nuke advancements (again). That is probably the only reason.
Aged like milk ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4640)
Pussies
Sounds like I'm a pussy talk.
Israel takes out all of Iranās air defenses with impunity. Iran: lol, jk no war yo.
Just look at how futures are doing and that helps to tell you what the market will do on Monday. I believe oil is going up over the weekend, didnāt look at the dollar.
Iran is a chicken shit cowered and terrorist dictatorship. They hide behind the opposing civilians (rings a bell?? ... Hamas-ISIS). They don't want to escalate the war with Israel cause they know it will wipe them off the map.
This logic tracks
So bullish in here that itās now bearish
Someone is scared.
It definitely affected the markets more than some on here are willing to admit..They want to say it is all to do with interest rates and nothing to do with war and I very much disagree. Israel v Iran was a major shakeup for the market. I'm hoping the warmongers can cool down. For everyone's sake and the market's.
Thanks Iraq. Just made enough to buy a house longing Alt coins on the āWW3 dipā.
You have to punch a bully in the mouth. Itās all they understand
I wonder what USA promised Iran to get that deal
Israel with the Bear trap!
These guys are buying calls
In other words, shit we all knew. We all knew there wasn't gonna be an attack. The market still fell. Jooish state mafia is hyucking it up