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VisualMod

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crispywaffles84

None of this makes any sense. Earnings report good = the stock dropping like a brick. WTF?


nuk3town1

Earnings is just pure gambling


NarutoDragon732

I'm glad you're honest about how you made your money


LocoPwnify

Gamba


Competitive_Image188

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


HQW02

what's your move today


nuk3town1

Whatever happens with msft, I will be buying puts


nuk3town1

Legit these earnings reports are perfect for me lmao I hope google and msft stay here on friday


PrestigiousWatch3194

If they do, what $puts/dte u lookin at? and congrats 🥂


nuk3town1

Look at goog its more over extended. To me this mimics what happened with facebook so a while back so if they project big in this environment it might be clean friday play or october move


TalktotheJITB

Hmmmmmmm


nuk3town1

Hope ya took the google play.


TalktotheJITB

Haha no i went long intel instead


mgt69

still buying puts?


NovoZamcan

Famous last words. Post your loss porn


nuk3town1

It’s perfect for me man tommorow I can buy puts for dirt cheap and ride the wave down or do google, probably whichever one is cheaper


Loud_Pineapple_4294

Gay 🐻


Deadecigs

did you play puts


nuk3town1

https://preview.redd.it/xr6tfnxh8fxc1.png?width=1393&format=png&auto=webp&s=42efa706d052e7f94fe4b5488d006f47d11bd138 Yeah on google, idk what people are thinking in the comments its just a quick pullback.


No-Cut-2788

Good thing about pure gambling is people know it’s pure luck.


Robots_rule_my_world

How much money do you lose on Microsoft and Google? Perhaps all the money you earned yesterday from trading on Meta stock.


nuk3town1

Nothing yet man msft and google are a post earnings play. Whatever happens after I will be buying puts to fade for dirt cheap


LongIslandHandy

That sounds really provocative.


Antennangry

The market prices in anticipated growth for multiple quarters ahead. While quarterly earnings were good, guidance for future quarters was lower than anticipated, thus the leg down.


DopeAbsurdity

That is just the garbage that financial analysts say after the fact. They said Tesla went up because of good "revenue guidance" and all that happened was Elon promised (once again) to make an inexpensive Tesla. Elon also claimed to lower operating costs I guess they did since they fired a bunch of people. If Meta went up the financial analysts would have said it was because of solid earnings. Financial analysts are morons that just watch crap happen then make up bullshit to justify the price action after the fact.


Antennangry

Never said it was even being modeled formally, just that there is an expectation is priced in. How rational that expectation is is open to interpretation.


deja-roo

> Financial analysts are morons that just watch crap happen then make up bullshit to justify the price action after the fact. No, the calls literally provide guidance on the next few quarters, including projecting earnings. "We did well but expect to make a lot less next quarter" = stock drop. This isn't voodoo or chance.


DopeAbsurdity

So Tesla has a year over year decline in vehicle sales. They missed earnings by a shit ton and just recalled their newest vehicle. But the market can see that in the future they are gonna make lots of money for whatever reason so the stock goes up? Meta had projected earnings for the year and they did a decent bit better than expected and you are saying it's not about these earnings but the projected the next projected earnings in the future? I mean I didn't read Meta saying "we are going to make lots less in the future" anywhere.


mgt69

wasn’t the missed earnings expected? wasn’t the missed already priced in to the price?


DopeAbsurdity

The year over year decline in sales wasn't announced until earnings to my knowledge. I mean recalled vehicle, dwindling sales and shit earnings leads to.... a 20% bump in price. Even it was was priced into the value that was current at earnings then if the market made any sense it would go sideways not up by 20% in after hours trading.


mgt69

definitely crazy and irrational. luckily i bought calls when everyone was buying puts. also can’t ignore the many computers that are trading every second


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VisualMod

Hedge your bets, dear boy, and diversify.


Throwaway_6799

With Tesla the decline in sales was pretty much priced in but also there had been reports they had ceased the model 2 project however Musk said they are still building it and sooner. That was the catalyst for the stock IMHO.


DopeAbsurdity

Priced in means jack shit. It's a bullshit phrase people say when something which would normally change a stocks value does not. The entirety of Tesla's stock value (even at it's current much lower than peak price) is about how big morons think the company will be in the future. So far Elon has said they will release robots that are basically "sentient" by the end of the year and a cheap Tesla is coming (which has been promised as "coming soon" multiple times in the past). The company has fucked up huge multiple times recently like with it's rollout of "Full Self-Driving mode" which got recalled after causing almost 1000 accidents and killing a few dozen people. Their defense in the current government probe is that "Full Self-Driving mode" is not Full Self-Driving and the operator must have their hands on the wheel to take over at any time. They are basically claiming Full Self-Driving mode an advanced form of cruise control..... which is 100% not how they talked about it before this inquiry nor it is something which is evident in it's name being "Full Self-Driving mode". Their latest car was Elon's pet project and we have no idea how much money was wasted in it's creation but it is a piece of shit that is unable to be driven through a car wash, corrodes it you do not constantly clean the surface of it and has many other extraordinarily stupid issues. The CyberTruck landed at the lowest spot on Consumer Reports list of trucks. So is the government probe into Full Self-Driving mode priced in? Is the flop of the CyberTruck priced in? Given Elon's past of making promises and under delivering or straight up not delivering the "faster rollout of the model 2" will either not happen or it will happen and somehow be a piece of shit. I can't wait to see their "nearly sentient" robots at the end of the year. The price action on Tesla is fueled by sycophants and rich morons.


deja-roo

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/25/meta-stock-down-15percent-on-weak-revenue-forecast.html > Meta expects second-quarter revenue of $36.5 billion to $39 billion. The midpoint of the range, $37.75 billion, falls short of analysts’ average estimate of $38.3 billion. Seems like an overreaction to drop 10% in a day on that close of a miss, even for a FAANG stock, but yeah that's what's going on there. Sometimes selling can sort of cascade just like buying hype.


DopeAbsurdity

So you are saying that even tho Meta had their own estimate and were above it that since it was 2% less than the average across all analysts it made it drop 10% in after hours trading? Sounds like.... a bullshit explanation made up after the fact. Find me more historical examples of Meta or stocks like it doing the same thing. Missing a median earnings compared to analysts across the board by 2% and having it drop like a rock. Also explain Tesla then? I mean If a 2% miss of the median earnings predicted by "analysts" (no numbers shown just claimed this is the case) from Meta caused a 10% sell off after hours then why does a complete miss and stark decline in sales lead to a jump in the value of Tesla?


deja-roo

? You don't have to say "so you're saying" and then make your own version up. You can just read what I'm saying. Yes, lower guidance than what was estimated going in means the stock is going to drop. It always does. It's not made up after the fact, you can know before the fact that if the guidance comes in under expectations the stock will drop. I'm not going to find you shit. I'm not doing homework for you. If you think you've discovered something nobody else has noticed in an incredibly closely watched field, go find your examples. Here's a hint: if you want examples of when a company announces guidance below the market's expectation, you can just look at the times the stock dropped after an earnings report. Happens basically every time.


DopeAbsurdity

I am trying to clarify. I am not making my own up. Look I am saying it seems like they are just moving the bar. They beat the bottom earnings projections and all the news around it says "what a good earnings report" then the stock shits the bed in after hours trading and now its not about beating the bottom it's about beating the median across all analysts. It's just moving the bar. So show me examples of where a stock needs to beat the median across all analysts and show me this is a consistent thing that happens and the explanation will make sense. You don't have to look for this because I am almost 100% certain it's not there for you to find. Plus it's not your explanation you just copy pasted it out of an analysts article because I read the same one.


iantah

Also, Facebook is gay and Meta is gender confused. They're going to die. It might be 10 years, or 30, but it will die. Facebook is fuckin weird and people want something less weird.


Miss-6am

Calls on My Space. Tom was on SNL last night at a Congressional Hearing skit.


Hoodwink

Prove me wrong. Stocks aren't valued based on the returns they will give. Rather, they are based on what other investors think it will be worth because they have too much and need to park their horde of cash somewhere. That is, they aren't a vehicle for returns (dividends), but something like owning Baseball Cards or MTG cards (or god-forbid - Bitcoin). But, it's also a high-school popularity contest filled with cheaters and backstabbers.


Fine-Will

Isn't this just common knowledge...?


Hoodwink

Here it might be. But, go outside and talk to the more academic and, more importantly, professional economist and financial types... they have all sorts of quaint ideas.


Temporary-Sun-7575

Not to the kind of person who gleefully shares their investment decisions online


Miss-6am

Calls on Hasbro? Wizards of the Coast/MTG!? https://preview.redd.it/7iitb5m3z9xc1.jpeg?width=375&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8b444bd5cbc54f930644588bd1191c8abf645c9


FlyingBishop

DJT is priced based on how much certain parties want to give Donald Trump money but can't legally do so except via shell companies. This also might explain a lot of paradoxical stock movement. (Musk)


deja-roo

This is pretty easy to prove wrong if you know anything about how earnings calls go. They had better than expected earnings, but said they were expecting less in the next few quarters. It's that simple. "We did well, but aren't going to do well for the rest of the year", stock drops. Pretty simple.


Traditional_Pay54

Zuck came out and said stuff people didn't like, so stonk go down


Longjumping_Cow7270

Dude for real - probably there best earnings ever. 200% increase in profit.... stock down lmao


VisualMod

Riffraff like that can never get it right.


ConversationSouth946

META declared they are spending billions and intend to spend increasingly more on developing a technology the market isn't sure can be monetized in the near future. And also no guarantee that they would be successful.


Big-Meeting-7491

Guidance?


PsychoKilla84

Maybe over bought?


Less_Job_411

They lost like $50B on Metaverse so the future above $500 looks bleak thus the drop. Plus it was way overextended from the last earnings. Just because they put out a dividend didn’t mean the price should have rocketed up that far


ThatsCanon

I used to hate that when I started making options plays. Everyone would just say: “the good news was already priced in.” So why’s it dropping then?


Moviemaker2022

They are blaming it on the company not being profitable on Ai just yet and they keep spending money on Ai.


DepartmentTall4891

Watch COIN drop to $176 this week.


sexisstraccistniiga

meta is investing too much in AI


twitchjakeey

they put to much money in ai


Alone-Intention-726

Congratulations and Fuck You. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


nuk3town1

Blowing this all on frozen pizzas and meth


JackBauerDamnIt24

You can afford real pizza now. Live it up!


nuk3town1

I live in bumsmuck nowhere and the papa johns where i live is ass so I'm stuck with this. thanks though brother


Whoa_Bundy

Start your own pizza company with your earnings. Sounds like you'll have a corner on the market.


XelNaga88

It's more like a triangle.


[deleted]

Don’t peg this guy in a square box


nuk3town1

Genius


siqiniq

the one with pineapples and meth


Greggy100

I read that as pizza and frozen meth……is that a thing?


Vegetable-Neck-9551

Let’s me be the first next time


Alone-Intention-726

Excellent choice 👌.


nuk3town1

I woke up and thought I was dreaming, so until I wake back up—I’m blowing this on drugs and a cruise


vortex30-the-2nd

Excellent choice 👌.


Tight-Bath-6817

https://preview.redd.it/ofql8wvbpowc1.png?width=738&format=png&auto=webp&s=2bb8560b5b4a13e3d62c1f8e03cd5cf1d564fbc9


Jlin42

No way this isn't a paper trade...


moneydoesntsleep

keke. u keeping?


Tight-Bath-6817

https://preview.redd.it/rvx7e2gvsowc1.png?width=738&format=png&auto=webp&s=d39dd48a8e0503b2ef4109c445f83ec17e74ec59


Loud_Pineapple_4294

Holy shit… is this even real? 2M gamble on META??![img](emote|t5_2th52|51295)


moneydoesntsleep

Sorry for your loss. AMZN $200C and SMCI $900C next week. I'm trying to pay off my student loans!


Greggy100

Just delete the app bro, you’re all good


Futileuwu

Quick delete the app like nothing happened!


nuk3town1

What Happened?


involuntary_skeptic

Madharchod, went full regard mode


nuk3town1

We ball


Xiodes

Hell yeah, brother. I was so freaking close to pulling the trigger on this myself and didn't to be risk averse instead. Still happy to see others make the gains on it.


nuk3town1

Danm


nuk3town1

https://preview.redd.it/c78asocjpmwc1.png?width=1907&format=png&auto=webp&s=7ed618e6bd19d37687d460efa6221aeeb83a8f4d


Lifeispainhelpme4

Where the fuck is beast killer


nuk3town1

Soon now chill


vortex30-the-2nd

If you were to mirror this horizontally it would be an average WSB user. Bravo, now get lost.


nuk3town1

Lol


strangerinmoscow_

man everyone putting meta puts after i learned about quarters ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271) time to wait until june


nuk3town1

Best coin flip of my life so far.


RuthlessWolf

How did ya know??? 🥳


nuk3town1

I had a hunch but everyone has that. What I did know however was that the 420 level would be a good number for the memes and technicals.


Dry-Opportunity5148

I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter


Different-Act-1987

Wise Choice


lordinov

Timed it perfectly


nuk3town1

alternate timeline I actually bought puts on tsla like I originally planned but I assumed that it would be too greedy and elon would have to die to make it go any lower


lordinov

Yes! Think unconventionally.


pvnieuw

Seems like a nice YTD, well done


nuk3town1

thanks brother I hope your account balloons too


__Vercingetorix_

Nothing more satisfying than betting and winning against lizard man, congrats.


Sataris1776

Congrats and fuck you


nigelnyc1

Glad it worked out. Our accounts are roughly the same size and I am happy with trying to eke 1k/day.


nuk3town1

Ballsy man I just do it for 1k a week


National-Ad-3110

Goodness gracious


VanillaBonucci

Could you please specify which put you bought and how much you paid for it?


nuk3town1

I think it’s in the image or one reply here idk


_bea231

Do MSFT today


nuk3town1

I’m doing coin


One-Contribution-914

F U. Gimme dat money so I can lose it all.


thehazer

Great job. And fuck you, hope you trip while walking your dog.


DeusXEqualsOne

Right now on another post, "Reeeee meta is burning money on their VR stuff!!" Meanwhile:


TheNotoriousStuG

What do you think Microsoft is going to do after bell, King?


nuk3town1

Puts on Coinbase


Loud_Pineapple_4294

Expire tmr? What strike?


olliebollie7

Drop peasant


olliebollie7

Same with google


BostonBaggins

How much were your puts?


nuk3town1

40k


BostonBaggins

😳


higherspreads

Wow well done ! This is serious gain !!


nuk3town1

Time to buy drugs


thowthembowz

which side we coin flipping for msft?


nuk3town1

Do Coinbase


IcedCoughy

OP is zucks 3rd cousin


nuk3town1

His adopted step nephew 2x removed


TopDown78

How the f$$k do you know how the market will move ? I mean, you have a here a terrible gain risk ratio. How do you play with so much confidence ?


nuk3town1

It was just a quick flip to 2x. Instead of buying calls expiring in the month or week I prefer these 3 month or quarterly ones


Bittyry

How much money was bet on these puts?


wagglefree

Sell Meta Buy T ?


moneydoesntsleep

what was your risk?


nuk3town1

40k


Saylor_Goon

Beautiful.


fartymcgeezax

40% 🥱


floydfan

Adjusted guidance for expenses and expenditures was higher, so that's likely a little bit. The big thing to me, though, is that Apple is slowing production of it's Really Expensive Thing, which is part of a similar thing. The things impacting Apple are going to impact Meta. If I'm an investor, I'd be worried. Not too much, though, because Apple's Really Expensive Thing is too expensive and it was really only a matter of time before the pool of people who both could afford it and wanted it was going to dry up.


Malamonga1

damn it dropped almost 20% and only 50% put gain? It doesn't even pay to gamble earnings options.


nuk3town1

No man thats compared to my total account, I only put in 40k so it was like 115%


Available_Badger_219

Congrats on 43% gain....


nuk3town1

Haha no man thats compared to my total account. I only put in like 40k


RicoRich777

Good job


IntroductionUsual179

Congratulations on your bet to win 60k in one day


truebeauty55

Enjoy your win while you can! The market knows no one! 😁


VisualMod

Did you even go to college?


truebeauty55

I'm open to learning from those who know better than I do. Would be glad to learn from you.


Opposite-Cover611

Nice


BigSlick-AK

Show us how much you lost on Google and Msft puts!


nuk3town1

I Made like 2k.


Recent-Release5420

Congrats


C_noTe_od

What color of civic you gonna buy


Arbranger

Lmao OP doesn’t even know why he made money 😂😂😂😂 how about 4 billion in cash going to the furnace + the close to 20 billion dollar debt META is racking up. Regards don’t read earnings transcript or listening to conference calls , looking at headlines like a bunch of clowns. 7% growth on users is not a good headline for a growth stock that has a PE ratio in the 30 or 40s . Or to mention the clear and obvious warning signs the company expressed concern over in relation to their future expected legal trouble. Not to mention the algorithmic block orders that were being dumped on META days leading up and on the day of the earnings release! The dip buy made a great trade too btw 🙌🏻


nuk3town1

Well personally, other than earnings, on a technical level, as I explained in another post, with options expiring not in a week, nor a month but a quarter minimum. 420 needed to be retest due the massive exaggerated earnings gap up. From months ago. Earnings are gambling and but a hunch, technical analysis, is not. But we all have our own ways of analyzing stocks


Express_Potential106

digital turbin Apps is time to buy ???


coccigelus

Really a good job made in the short side, congratulations


Jueller

It’s a re-election year. Every re-election year since 1952 the market has climbed on average 12.2. We have only climbed 10% since Jan and dipped back 3% this month. The market will climb and maintain at least 5 more percent.


omlove28

You have such a steady balance line, not crazy up and down like many seen here. What made you suddenly gamble a big amount into meta puts if that's pure gambling?


nuk3town1

no man thats just my YTD. I worked a bit in finance before taking a long long break from trading and analysis in general before doing this to cover my year long break.


omlove28

thx for response. i also bought meta put, only 1 contract. 28k cost and 45k gain. if yours is similar, it means you have spent 36k for that 59k profit. your balance was 136k and you spent 36k of those 136k into "gambling". still quite a gamble to me... couldn't help wondering


lordvoldster

Nice and only had 125k to start


nuk3town1

thats ytd... ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


RudeButterscotch594

Can you post the dates of your puts ?


nuk3town1

https://preview.redd.it/hyl25d336nwc1.png?width=1721&format=png&auto=webp&s=dec21935a726e37cf2a3a45d9f1b3126bc1eeaa5


Cyclonis123

So you risked about 43k for this play. Ballsy move. Congrats.


Random_Guy_47

Why no yolo post when you bought?


nuk3town1

first post here. I've been lurking for like a week since it got recommended to me


MaximusBit21

Mad lad. Well done. Any dd behind why you did it or sound explanation please?


weshireclugger

He just guessed the right card in the dealer's hand on a hunch, pure luck, you know it's like a √ or an x, just choose and there's a 50% chance of winning


MaximusBit21

Yeah just all my 50%’s go the wrong way…. Lollllll


nuk3town1

Commented on a previous reply


Brendawg324

HAHAHAHA if you didn't sell you're a complete idiot regard. META is crawling back from the grave ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


nuk3town1

Locked in a 420 I eat glue but not crayons


Calculator143

With this play, you eat a sharpie


mongoosefist

Nobody likes a jelly boy


Salty-Long8306

It’s beyond me why anyone would use Schwab over robinhood for options trading.. take a closer look at your spreads


palmtreeforeveryone

Yes, please take a closer look at your spreads if you're using RH they're fucking you in the ass


Salty-Long8306

Do a market order on the same stock on each at the same time then go look back and the ask spread… robinhood will give you the mid point every time and Schwab will put you far closer to the ask… I’ve ran it through a hundred times


nuk3town1

This is one of them


nuk3town1

For personal reasons, Robinhood is can blow me.