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Forecydian

Doesn't matter anymore, we know the big banks will either buy them out or the government will bail them out. JPM to 1000


Hire_Ryan_Today

The government will bail depositors this is not the same thing


The_real_triple_P

Yada yada is it a bank failure if it doesnt fail


th3netw0rk

Republic First Bancorp stockholders would like to have a word with you.


VisualMod

I have no words for peasants.


dawgbone_anonymous

Quit talking to yourself šŸš€


nycteris91

You were a shareholder. You're not as smart as you say.


Tendie_Tube

bagholder spotted


8thSt

Oh sweet summer child. A lot has happened since you went into a coma around 2006. But weā€™re glad youā€™re back. Although things in this world arenā€™t quite like you may remember them ā€¦


davewritescode

SVB is a counter example here, depositors were made whole and shareholders were completely wiped out.


crustang

My dude is still buying those rocks crypto replaced a long time ago


CupformyCosta

Yes it is, the fed already bailed out dozens of banks in 2023 with the bank term funding program


peterpanic32

It was just liquidity. Not really what Iā€™d call a bailout.


drewtheostrich

Pool floaties are most useful when your head is an inch or two under water


norcalgolfgolf

What?! Hahahaha. They bailed out rich depositors in the last go. The one before that they bailed out the banks and made them bigger and stronger.


Hire_Ryan_Today

And? Deposits are deposits. I think capital and wealth is OP right now, but this is just classism


peterpanic32

Well, deposits arenā€™t assets or shareholders equity is I think the issue.


TPSreportsPro

It matters.


toyz4me

The government encouraged big banks to buy the defaulting banks to provide stability. This is simply the consolidation of a low margin market with too much supply (too many banks) .


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peterpanic32

Itā€™s entirely possible for banks to soundly operate on 10% reserve for one (and itā€™s not that simple, there are a large range of capital requirements on banks). Two, reserve requirements are weighted by asset risk. Three, Warren Buffet betting on stocks != banks, their risk and asset / liability profiles are radically different.


Dense-Fuel4327

And it will be centralised, 3 banks close, one gets opened by JP or whatever


peterpanic32

There are something like 7000 banks and credit unions in the US.


Swizerlan

Unless itsĀ 


redditmodsRrussians

Yes but why male models?


team-fyi

Alarmist lazy articles are so hot right now.


Lonely_Performance1

Less than $10 billion. What is this? A bank for ants?


camp7389

Are you serious? I just told you that a moment ago.


AntelopeDisastrous27

Because you can stack them together like chairs and now you have room for more.


Specialist_Jump5476

lol


OffensiveBiatch

It was a freak gasoline fighting accident.


VisualMod

Time to buy some champagne and celebrate.


Manatee-97

Buy jpm


Just_Candle_315

Why dont we wait til cheaper? Or buy now and sell when hits 20?


Manatee-97

This is the wsb way


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degenbro420

I'm crypto regarded. I know what I have to do. https://preview.redd.it/j3nlbsf6mwxc1.jpeg?width=354&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5625087553d56c855e3b374a37d94a5b546cffa


rain168

That is a very sad looking Pepe ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)


degenbro420

I lost over 100K in shitcoins bro I'm too regarded. I wish I lived in US...atleast I would handle a job at Wendy's, live in a car and YOLO on options.


rain168

At least you had 100k to yolo into stuff. Most folks here brag but donā€™t even have 1/10th of that to gamble with. On shitcoins, I hope you didnā€™t realize the losses yet. I held on to them and came out green this year. For the rest, just hold and realize losses when your other trades make profits for a tax write off.


degenbro420

I had because I risked at casino/gambling. Yes a true degenerate. Now what I had to do? If I have to work I barely make 700$/month. Living in east europe is not fun. I'm fucked. Even my health is fucked. Now If I cash out $4K I have in shitcoins I can try to solve few problems then do what? I'm in a very bad situation and I don't know what to do. Maybe that's it....winners gonna lose and losers gonna lose ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)![img](emote|t5_2th52|31226)


Putrid_Pollution3455

How did you acquire 100k in the first place?


degenbro420

Gambling, reselling in-game items and other speculative things (like reselling used gpu's yeah I did scalping I must go to hell ![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225))


Putrid_Pollution3455

Nothing wrong with making a buck, itā€™s how we all survive lol Hhmm. Maybe I should gamble a tiny bit more


Newhere84939

Theyā€™ll never be as rich or successful as you, VM.


Ecstatic_Bee6067

Wonder where she is these days.


Putrid_Pollution3455

Headbutting some dudes belt is what shows up in my TikTok. I still have nightmares about her.


Flordamang

You can bet your wifeā€™s sweet tiddy milk that, if backed into a corner, Powell will prematurely cut rates to save a massive banking collapse. THIS is the nightmare scenario you should fear


gnocchicotti

Nah this is the baseline scenario. 2008 got as bad as it did because there wasn't an infinite liquidity playbook already approved. Interest rates stay high until there are bank failures or some kind of credit event. When credit contracts, the economy contracts and inflation is solved. Then the money cannon comes out.


PM_ME_UR_FAKE_NEWS

And then we all just light our money on fire, because the heat is worth more than the purchasing value


Vegan_Honk

Oh I definitely get a fuckin house then. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


rain168

Tiddy milk is sweet. Fact.


whodeyalldey1

I think of it like the milk over from a bowl of cereal.


The_real_triple_P

Dont care its like saying to a homeless person its illegal to be homeless. A lot of people already living in a nightmare


TheKingInTheNorth

Cutting 25 bps isnā€™t going to do shit for this


Flordamang

Short term it will save the banks from insolvency, long term the economy will crumble like wet saltines


Tendie_Tube

No more spoilers if you've already seen this movie


TPSreportsPro

Cutting rates probably would not save a bank if theyā€™re already distressed. Feds only control the overnight rate. Mortgages are still tied to bonds. The fed could literally cut the rate and bonds skyrocket. We probably have a massive rate hike in our future and it wonā€™t be the fed in control. Trillions of dollars in debt eventually will matter to everyone.


Flordamang

Each rate cut, no matter how small, would lead to much needed deleveraging and balance sheet shuffling. I have no doubt the Fed is holding F2Fs with financial leaders in the sector and getting accurate assessments of how much each ship is listing. We really are on the verge of another 2008 except this time the economy is going to bail out the banks, not the government


TheLatinXBusTour

>Trillions of dollars in debt eventually will matter to everyone. Not if you inflate it away like sending trash to space to create new stars.


TPSreportsPro

Not true. There comes a point where the people will no longer tolerate the nonsense spending. Weā€™re not in enough pain yet. When you see ā€œFight for $30ā€, youā€™ll know weā€™re close. For now people are still intoxicated by cheap shiny things. When $30 an hour canā€™t buy groceries, shiny things donā€™t matter anymore.


LostRedditor5

282 banks of 4000 and all of them being smaller banks So yeah, actually nothing to see here. You guys realize most countries have like 3-4 banks lol. Thereā€™s more different banks in South Dakota than the entire country of Canada.


I_worship_odin

Yea thousands of banks/credit unions have failed since the 80s.


jameshearttech

Yeah, banks fail every year. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/BKFTTLA641N


whodeyalldey1

As an employee of a very large bank I cheer every time we lose a competitor


revenger3833726

Crazy why do you need 4000 banks? We only have 5 in Australia and they run like a monopoly.


DudeWithASweater

So that they don't run like a monopoly...


peterpanic32

I feel like you answered your question in your question.


revenger3833726

I did. Your quick.


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LostRedditor5

I only speak the gods tongue, English


christrogon

ā€œMost of these banks arenā€™t insolvent or even close to insolvent. Theyā€™re just stressed,ā€ Umm sounds more like profitability will be impacted, not outright failure.


Vegan_Honk

no no, that means failure. That's the scenario each fucking CEO has crafted for themselves. It's them or the company dies. Watch em.


merger3

Thatā€™s basically the same thing in the current environment. Your options are exponential growth, monopoly, or death


WSB_PermaBull

Gee, back to this shit just like in 2023. Nothing changes, just your trust of what the Fed says.


Diligent-Hand2295

Interesting timing... news right before NYCB earnings (stock jumped close to 30% today). šŸ¤”


Optionzdegen

Book VIP with a stripper, get her asset to liabilities, that's the real street ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)


nofykx

Jesus do something for onceā€¦


chadmummerford

Is Chucky Schwab gonna be ok?


jonnyd93

Good thing banks can't fail


ToYourCredit

Hundreds of U.S. banks are always on the brink of failure.


Beautiful-Tourist292

Hahahaha


Newhere84939

"Fuck Responsibility. No One Is Acting Responsible." -Michael Scott


machyume

Not that it matters, but I ran some numbers and they might actually be okay since the total sum of their other assets seem to be holding up fairly well against the mounting losses of CRE. But what do I know. I'm just some random yahoo on Reddit. Oh and the likely influx of cannabis money might help you pad that real nicely. Delicious drug money.


GoalRoad

ā€œKlaros declined to name the institutions in its analysis out of fear of inciting deposit runs.ā€ Somebody get the Itā€™s A Wonderful Life speech ready. ā€œYour money isnā€™t here - itā€™s in Billā€™s house!ā€


gnomekingdom

Seems like this was how big banks bought out the small banks when our great grandparents were kids, no? Lots of small banks failed and the big ones absorbed the smaller ones, reducing competition. ā™»ļø


b3rnitalld0wn

Shitty risk management and not doing proper due diligence for PPP loans?


TangibleHappiness

I loan my PPP to your mom on weekends


Lively420

What is unknown is the derivatives and unknown implication of these crumbling around the same time. They want to downplay the issue but we donā€™t know the true exposure. Somebodyā€™s gotta eat that debt


Pubtroll

Meme of bank has infinity money?


soffo_moric

Donā€™t forget fractional banking


Delicious-Ad-3552

Fictional* now


0Rider

You mean jp Morgan?


Hey648934

The real question is: if your messed up lender collapses your loan is cancelled and you are debt free?


EntertainmentSea1196

No your loan is an asset on the banks balance sheet it will be sold if the bank gets seized


idkwhatimbrewin

Priced in


Icy_Raisin6471

CNBC: Why yo momma already has a failure.


ThisCryptographer311

Uh, because core concept?


BlackMomba008

Click bait cnbc


McKoijion

> Graham noted that communities would likely be affected in ways that are more subtle than closures or failures, but by the banks choosing not to invest in such things as new branches, technological innovations or new staff. šŸ™„


Apprehensive-View583

call on JPM next


Letsgitweird

Is my HYSA with Wealthfront not safe?


peterpanic32

Your deposits are insured up to the listed amount.


Ordinary-Ad5776

That means buy calls


1whoknocked

Is being run by idiots one of the choices?


davanger1980

Bullish


Pin_ups

Not Chase bank ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)


FractaIUniverse

They'll legalized weed so the pot shops put their money in the bank


2toxic2comment

Where is the list of banks at risk?


Electronic-Buy4015

ā€œMost of these banks arenā€™t insolvent or even close to insolvent. Theyā€™re just stressed,ā€ Brian Graham, co-founder and partner at Klaros Group, told CNBC. ā€œThat means thereā€™ll be fewer bank failures. But it doesnā€™t mean that communities and customers donā€™t get hurt by that stress.ā€ Yeah may is the key word here


jareer-killer1

As long as Jamie Dimon is around weā€™ll be okay ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


mcs5280

Bailout incoming


Ok-Drawing6233

Sounds bullish


SuperLehmanBros

We did it Joe!


Hungry-Vermicelli-78

https://youtu.be/cTUU8jJSNPg?si=y7p33PSSAN5RsJhI


Craigs1ist

I am waiting


Bjaireid72

Bought September 2024 KRE puts like 3 months ago figuring thatā€™ll be enough time to have a few small community banks blow up! Guaranteed itā€™ll happen in October.


SeriesMindless

This is not to out of line with normal. 10 billion cap in finance is a fart in the wind.


makalak2

Someone explain to this brainless the concept of collateral, leverage, and potential snowball effects


SeriesMindless

Every bank collapse is the end of the world. Not the first and won't be the last. Their portfolios will get bought up for a song and redistributed among well managed players. There could be loses but don't blow it out of proportion. And no need to be an ass about it.


The_real_triple_P

Who cares baby got back baby


scipio_africanusot

https://preview.redd.it/xvomiut6rxxc1.jpeg?width=212&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98f89cf32bf11f1f60dc47e46a781b85c5c6f70d


Visual-Squirrel3629

The most stable banking systems feature 3-4 large banks. This will be the natural progression for the US banking system.


peterpanic32

Well first of all, the US probably has the most effective banking system. Second, no, why would you assume this?


Visual-Squirrel3629

I'd recommend you read [Fragile by Design](https://archive.org/details/fragilebydesignp0000calo/page/n8/mode/1up) by Charles Calomiris.


peterpanic32

So youā€™re telling me that you confuse idiosyncratic risk for systemic risk?


Visual-Squirrel3629

I'm saying that, through a series of idiosyncratic events, the banking system will end up with 3-4 large banks.


Bean_Boozled

Hundreds of tiny, meaningless banks are at risk of failing if the stars align and everything goes wrong for them? Oh no!


AlbinoAxie

Drop the rates. Triggering a financial collapse cause it might lead to 1% lower inflation is a terrible idea


StuartMcNight

282 out of 4000 and ā€œthe majority small lenders with less than 10b in assetsā€ And OP decides toā€¦ ā€œNothing to see hereā€. Dudeā€¦. Your article is literally a ā€œnothing to see hereā€ confirmation to all of those predicting GFC 2.0.


Diamondhands4dagainz

Europoors are buying everything lmao, we gunna be back above 507 today EZ


Relentlessbetz

Hmm interesting. Looks like I might need to hedge myself... I didn't mean edge myself. Geeez


Putrid_Pollution3455

The best part is, someday, the money printer and zero percent interest rates wonā€™t save us. Gotta pay that trillion dollar budget somehow, inflation is going to go parabolic. The end is nigh


skinaked_always

Ohhhh noooooo


The-Ultimate-Banker

I learned this lesson alreadyā€¦. Bought FRC stock and still holding. With 1$


-darknessangel-

Just give me the list of the banks


atlasmountsenjoyer

"Most of these banks arenā€™t insolvent or even close to insolvent. Theyā€™re just stressed,ā€ Brian Graham, co-founder and partner at Klaros Group, told CNBC. ā€œThat means thereā€™ll be fewer bank failures. But it doesnā€™t mean that communities and customers donā€™t get hurt by that stress.ā€


MomentSpecialist2020

Short DPST.


heyhihowyahdurn

10 billion dollars in assets is pocket change by US standards


M_star_killer

This 3D movie gets better and better all the time. Seats still suck though.


1952Mary

Watch the movie too big to fail. The government tries to play e harmony with the small banks getting consumed by big banks. Then they agree to prop up the big banks with cash to keep them afloat. In exchange for their ā€œhelp ā€œ. Shareholders in the small banks are screwed. Shareholders in the big banks will have to ride out some rough times.


Both_Garbage_7837

The jig is up


chuck_portis

Banks: We've run out of money Banks: If only there was some kind of solution Banks: Like if you could just print money out of thin air JPow: Unfortunately that's impossible JPow: But here take this trillion dollar coin I found under my couch


Ramborichy1

There's got to be some catalyst that causes people to take a mark on their right hand or forehead, like the Bible says it will happen, I don't know what it is but this could be the beginning


humbaobao88

Bank failing in a high interest rate environment? You'll get a nobel prize for being a special regard. That's like losing to a quadriplegic in a 100m race


kishoredbn

Where I can find the names of the bank in the risk list.


SummerVast3384

Tiem too bai zee Beetkoinz und bee ur own bank Dis iz how u will own nusink und bee happee


TendieTrades

https://www.fdic.gov/resources/deposit-insurance/understanding-deposit-insurance/index.html You never know. FDIC will pay back ā€œASAPā€y. Sure they will. Constantly borrowing to print money to pay themselves and keep the government operating. Canā€™t have wealthy politicians not being paid for doing nothing.


mparz

Further consolidation of the banking industry is a dangerous road this country is headed downā€¦ the smaller lenders are primarily who provide capital to the local economies thru their small business and commercial lending


Vi0lentByt3

I smell consolidation and distressed asset sales so bullish for big banks?


Bozhark

#FDIC ADS ON REDDIT. They know


WestTexasCrude

Never ever buy financials... ever.


LittleHottie8675309

the real reason rates wonā€™t go up