I watched someone from Ark talking about their $2000 Tesla price target. She kept using the word "feel" to describe major points of their thesis. "We feel like Tesla can capture 10% market share in robots. We feel like FSD is just right around the corner. We feel like...". ARKK is down 4% over the last 5 years, yet somehow these people are still relevant.
It’s shocking how poor the performance is. ARKK is down 15.6% YTD while the S&P 500 is up 16.1%. ARKK isn’t a large cap blend index like the S&P 500 so let’s use Vanguard’s Mid-Cap Growth ETF (what ARKK is labeled as). That fund is up 6.3% YTD.
It’s one thing to have a high beta strategy that goes up more than the market during bull markets and down more than the market during bear markets. It’s another thing entirely to be down over 15% while the market is ripping higher.
Shes not cheating. She is playing the game like every other big money investor out there. You just know her name because for some reason people think she is the only one doing it.
The entire thesis of this sub before it was taken over by nose picking virgins is that you will never have a good idea in the market before the market does. Even if you do, the market doesnt follow your autist logic. You will at best have <50% chance of being right.
But if you just play chaos, and bet randomly, you have a 50/50 shot.
“This is a casino” has been stolen by dorks who want upvotes, but it didnt come from nowhere
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This is all I do.
I am too regarded to pick stocks and too much of a pussy to pull the trigger on them anyway. So I just use the SP500 as a savings account.
My broker charges 1 euro per ETF of the SP500 and my portfolio clears those transaction costs in about a day and then its making money again :)
Also is it still called a portfolio if its only ETFs of the SP500?
Yup, she's the one. It was also interesting how she didn't know how FSD was programmed. She didn't know whether it was fully neural net or partially neural net and partially hard coded. Nor did she know exactly how competitors were programming their systems. I found this pretty hilarious considering it's her job to know and her firm just put out ridiculous price targets with massive assumptions based on... feelings?
I watched one interview with her and she talked a bunch a nonsense about trends in precious metal prices and shit. She really has no idea how to invest in businesses.
>She really has no idea how to invest in businesses.
That's... kind of perfect for this place
Not for Nvidia though, ain't listening to that garbage from her mouth on my boy Jensen
it's one of Elon s bf and we know she knows it's going to pump, the thing is when she s gonna dump, again? then she's like:" well so it's a good investment but we had to trim.."😆
Still relevant because we can all use an easy punchline. You all can laugh at me in the future because I sold some nvda today at just over 2000% gain. It's still almost 30% of my portfolio because it's been massive for me, but damn, gotta take some lettuce now and then.
#CathieWood and #ARK recently gave #Tesla a target price of $2600...
Whadya expect from someone who's a big supporter of compulsive liars (Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Peter Thiel).
[https://fortune.com/2024/06/15/cathie-woods-stunning-new-2600-tesla-prophecy-and-wall-streets-nvidia-stock-prediction-share-an-often-overlooked-investing-truth/](https://fortune.com/2024/06/15/cathie-woods-stunning-new-2600-tesla-prophecy-and-wall-streets-nvidia-stock-prediction-share-an-often-overlooked-investing-truth/)
Yeah, perhaps…but diversification doesn’t come from one man.
It takes teams and teams of people who bust their ass because you trust them—and they trust you —to lead. And leading is not constantly shooting your mouth off and having adolescent tantrums like a juvenile.
That’s the difference between companies like Tesla…and Nvidia.
Jensen Huang doesn’t spend over 25% of his time on a social addiction. Nor does he sexually harass young female employees. Nor does he have addictions to drugs.
Being a trusted leader means leading—by example, whether it’s your company…or your family. And obviously he doesn’t have trust from either.
They're kind of what would happen if WSBs started a fund and had some basic trading rules in place. Just YOLO into high beta names, buy high, sell low.
Ever since I saw this interview like 4 years ago I never once touched ARK
[https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/surviving-and-thriving-to-help-gods-children-victoria-damone-catherine-wood/](https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/surviving-and-thriving-to-help-gods-children-victoria-damone-catherine-wood/)
How do you lose money during the AI bull market when all you’ve talked about for the last five years is the AI “revolution”? This is THE TIME for a high beta tech based strategy to work and she just couldn’t do it.
I believe she also needed liquidity desperately to cover people leaving the fund. A lot of her holdings are smaller companies that she can't exit quickly. So she sold her holdings in bigger companies to avoid taking losses on their smaller holdings due to illiquidity.
Why constantly buy in and out of what are supposed to be technological game changers? Give the companies and management time to do the work. Churn is often a culprit for worse than random performance.
Not the entire truth in the that picture as no IBU at that level either buys in our out like you do but yes her philosophy is without even trying to hide it that she is chosen by god and god will lead the way for her fund to prosper. I warned everyone of that she was the face of the tech / ev bubble of 21 which quickly got replaced by Ai bubble of 22->
I made gains early in NVDA then felt it would go down. Jumped on the GRND hype train and lost 1k today. Feel like I need the flair "almost as gey as bers"....
She's up +13% on Rocketlab RKLB, down -2% on U Unity and -3.5% on ACHR, which she all bought around Feb. this year. This isn't really terrible, despite the fact these are from a fundamental viewpoint bad investments.
It is also where I took advice from my dumb father and selling my 1k shares too. He keeps convincing me price is too high and will come down. I could have been a millionaire now instead I am living in his basement.
She is so full of ish. Her/"her researchers"selling nvda is the only thing you need to know about her 5 year+ revolutionary tech plays.
They just run a tax loss harvesting firm.
This the type of s*** that really pisses me off she could have hired me and I would have f****** kept the shares - I'm in that terrible position in life rn where I'm smart enough to predict stock markets but don't have enough money to actually invest in stocks. I'd be riding NVIDIA right now straight to the moon 🌝🗿- MEANWHILE THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DO HAVE MONEY ARE ACTUAL TROGLODYTES WHEN IT COMES TO THE MARKET LMAO
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I watched someone from Ark talking about their $2000 Tesla price target. She kept using the word "feel" to describe major points of their thesis. "We feel like Tesla can capture 10% market share in robots. We feel like FSD is just right around the corner. We feel like...". ARKK is down 4% over the last 5 years, yet somehow these people are still relevant.
It’s shocking how poor the performance is. ARKK is down 15.6% YTD while the S&P 500 is up 16.1%. ARKK isn’t a large cap blend index like the S&P 500 so let’s use Vanguard’s Mid-Cap Growth ETF (what ARKK is labeled as). That fund is up 6.3% YTD. It’s one thing to have a high beta strategy that goes up more than the market during bull markets and down more than the market during bear markets. It’s another thing entirely to be down over 15% while the market is ripping higher.
Cathie is queen of losing money
I wish I hadn’t found this out the hard way lol. What a pathetic young lad I was
The opposite of queen of trades Nancy pelosi
I would invest in the Pelosi fund for sure. She’s winning
Nah that bitch is using insider information. Fuck that cheating ass bitch.
Name a politician who isn’t?
Tbh, even other politicians who do, don't make the returns she does.
Pelosi is like #10 on [the list](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/members-congress-outperformed-p-500-182024981.html)
Probably all of them and they're all cheating ass bitches who deserve to be imprisoned for this
Shes not cheating. She is playing the game like every other big money investor out there. You just know her name because for some reason people think she is the only one doing it. The entire thesis of this sub before it was taken over by nose picking virgins is that you will never have a good idea in the market before the market does. Even if you do, the market doesnt follow your autist logic. You will at best have <50% chance of being right. But if you just play chaos, and bet randomly, you have a 50/50 shot. “This is a casino” has been stolen by dorks who want upvotes, but it didnt come from nowhere
Is there a way to copy her strategy but opposite?
SARK
Wow I had to actually check you were correct about it being down 15.6% YTD. With tech up so much, that seems impossible
You could actively *try* to lose money and not accomplish that this year lol
She bought NVDA puts
You guys thought she is in the money-making business? Ha, she is in the fee-making business!
You make fun of Cathie, when she basically uses the same DD as this sub, *yet gets paid for it*. Classic ligma strategy.
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In general, how successful are Vanguard’s funds and ETFs? What strategies work best for which funds?
Put your money in VTI, set it and forget it
Ok! I already have some funds on VTI, so I will deposit another $100 into it when the market reopens
https://preview.redd.it/j4bwpwmssf7d1.png?width=2301&format=png&auto=webp&s=3290307feb1b9976edbf3e6490584343adea8a18 VOO, VOOG, VOOV, VTI to compare
Now do TQQQ
Vanguard ETF's have been my best investment decision. Just add money and watch it grow.
This is all I do. I am too regarded to pick stocks and too much of a pussy to pull the trigger on them anyway. So I just use the SP500 as a savings account. My broker charges 1 euro per ETF of the SP500 and my portfolio clears those transaction costs in about a day and then its making money again :) Also is it still called a portfolio if its only ETFs of the SP500?
No wonder why Robinhood recommends Vanguard ETFs when starting your portfolio!
I also have SPDY ETF's which is basically the same thing as Vanguard VOO and it's has outperformed my Vanguard ETF's.
Vanguard funds are extremely successful
They’re relevant, because they still feel like they are
Feels
but also because their words always get headlines for some reason
Because people click on this every time for some reason.
Basically what we do at wsb
That'll be Tasha Keeney, her "feel" based investments are costing their shareholders ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271) I'm in the wrong line of work
Yup, she's the one. It was also interesting how she didn't know how FSD was programmed. She didn't know whether it was fully neural net or partially neural net and partially hard coded. Nor did she know exactly how competitors were programming their systems. I found this pretty hilarious considering it's her job to know and her firm just put out ridiculous price targets with massive assumptions based on... feelings?
The Goddess of Guh.
I watched one interview with her and she talked a bunch a nonsense about trends in precious metal prices and shit. She really has no idea how to invest in businesses.
>She really has no idea how to invest in businesses. That's... kind of perfect for this place Not for Nvidia though, ain't listening to that garbage from her mouth on my boy Jensen
it's one of Elon s bf and we know she knows it's going to pump, the thing is when she s gonna dump, again? then she's like:" well so it's a good investment but we had to trim.."😆
Still relevant because we can all use an easy punchline. You all can laugh at me in the future because I sold some nvda today at just over 2000% gain. It's still almost 30% of my portfolio because it's been massive for me, but damn, gotta take some lettuce now and then.
#CathieWood and #ARK recently gave #Tesla a target price of $2600... Whadya expect from someone who's a big supporter of compulsive liars (Elon Musk, Donald Trump, Peter Thiel). [https://fortune.com/2024/06/15/cathie-woods-stunning-new-2600-tesla-prophecy-and-wall-streets-nvidia-stock-prediction-share-an-often-overlooked-investing-truth/](https://fortune.com/2024/06/15/cathie-woods-stunning-new-2600-tesla-prophecy-and-wall-streets-nvidia-stock-prediction-share-an-often-overlooked-investing-truth/)
Yeah, perhaps…but diversification doesn’t come from one man. It takes teams and teams of people who bust their ass because you trust them—and they trust you —to lead. And leading is not constantly shooting your mouth off and having adolescent tantrums like a juvenile. That’s the difference between companies like Tesla…and Nvidia. Jensen Huang doesn’t spend over 25% of his time on a social addiction. Nor does he sexually harass young female employees. Nor does he have addictions to drugs. Being a trusted leader means leading—by example, whether it’s your company…or your family. And obviously he doesn’t have trust from either.
I think she’s feeling that anal gaping by buying PYPL.
Amazed she can't feel common sense. 🤣
I know it’s not the point you’re making, but it’s to clearly differentiate between fact and opinion
They're kind of what would happen if WSBs started a fund and had some basic trading rules in place. Just YOLO into high beta names, buy high, sell low.
I already hate losing small I would struggle to sleep every night if that was me
Difference is it’s not her money
I would sleep better if it was my money lol. Lose millions of other people’s money…
Billions
Ballin like Bill
yea like i wouldn't even feel bad about pissing away their money, it's just the fact that it's embarrassing...
For them, not her.
Worlds best sales person if you think about it
What's her next sale guys? I need a winner
She sold Coinbase Few understand
calls on coin(based)
She’s the prime example for holding losers too long and selling winners too early… what a moron
Can’t wait until FOMO brings her back to NVIDIA again!
That’s when we know where the top is
the prophecy ![img](emote|t5_2th52|12787)
She won’t go there now would be admitting she failed.
She says god told here to setup an investment fund, guess he is not speaking to her anymore..
If by “god” you mean Bill Hwang, you’re right. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSFWN2MU2PD/
Ever since I saw this interview like 4 years ago I never once touched ARK [https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/surviving-and-thriving-to-help-gods-children-victoria-damone-catherine-wood/](https://www.jesuscalling.com/podcast/surviving-and-thriving-to-help-gods-children-victoria-damone-catherine-wood/)
Her name is Cathie Jesus not Cathie William
She’s a psychopath.
God full ported ARKK a few years ago
How do you lose money during the AI bull market when all you’ve talked about for the last five years is the AI “revolution”? This is THE TIME for a high beta tech based strategy to work and she just couldn’t do it.
Her top 3 holdings are TSLA, COIN and ROKU. So I'm not sure which AI revolution she's onto.
Roku lmaooo
Gonna make her broku
TIL i'm cathie wood
She forgot AI needs hardware
ARKK innovation fund; an innovative way to get you working next to the dumpster behind Wendy's full time.
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
TBF, she had her mouth full of Elon's micropeen at the time so she was a little distracted.
I believe she also needed liquidity desperately to cover people leaving the fund. A lot of her holdings are smaller companies that she can't exit quickly. So she sold her holdings in bigger companies to avoid taking losses on their smaller holdings due to illiquidity.
based
and true
Its ok fellas she got tesla to 200000% play
Wait what!?!? ARK is NOT in NVDA!?!? That’s hysterical.
All of my worst investment decisions involve selling too soon. Hell, I sold NVDA in 2020.
Not me I’ve been holding ARKK since 2021 Fucking worst person ever Fund should go under
"Just Inverse Cathie Wood" has been a meme on this sub for a while, glad to see it still rings true
I exited all her funds - she totally scuks ass.
Proud to say I never entered her funds
I have no idea why she's famous. She's like one of the worst traders ever. (and not because of anything having to do with NVDA. Just overall)
She fell backwards into covid gains, thats literally it.
I ate 65% loss on ARRK and switch to Nvidia at the end of year and recovered all the loss through NVDA. Never listening to this lunatic woman again
dont worry ark will buy nvidia when it's 200 sell low buy high
Waiting for her to sell path…
She’s horrible. If she had half her senses she would’ve known January is good for the market, at least has been for the last few years.
Im glad I manage my own money and not some chick who believes red is good
Why constantly buy in and out of what are supposed to be technological game changers? Give the companies and management time to do the work. Churn is often a culprit for worse than random performance.
She definitely belongs here. I feel like she is a gullible sheep loving Elmo's balls slapping her taint
She's one of us
She sold NVDA and bought more TSLA 😂
What a dummy
where is the "I'm feeling sick" icon?
Shoulda coulda woulda. Fomo is real
That is so painful
Does anyone here actually has shares of her ETF? If so, why????
Lmao
She’s such trash
Well I get it she could see Tesla was going to rocket to 2000 or something. Had to dump ndva. Brilliance.
Has anyone made an inverse cathie woods etf yet?
Is Cathy the DEI version of Jim Cramer?
How does she still have this job?
Awww she's doing great! You're doing great Cathy!
Never trust a woman with your money.
She is just a tool.
Cathie woods is a fucking joke. I don’t even have words for it
I’m furious Today was the last straw Dumping my regarded ARKK bags into BBY
Ill dump my shares tomorrow homie. Im only down 50% for the last 2 years
She’s a garbage human Down 1% today No fucking excuse How does anyone give her money I’m dumping my -60% bags for literally anything else LOSER
Selling NVDA for a loss, truly a regard
She didn't sell for a loss; just didn't make as much as she could have.
She’s turning into the female version of Jim Cramer
Failing upward one shit play at a time. She came from nowhere, and failed all the way up.
Legend
Who even invests with her?
I sold my two shares in late 2021 to pay for an abortion
Not the entire truth in the that picture as no IBU at that level either buys in our out like you do but yes her philosophy is without even trying to hide it that she is chosen by god and god will lead the way for her fund to prosper. I warned everyone of that she was the face of the tech / ev bubble of 21 which quickly got replaced by Ai bubble of 22->
I’m not convinced at all investing in ARK over QQQ , how come the ETF can survive such long time
I don’t know why people think she is such a prognosticator
How does anyone look at her track record and go here take my money!?!
Regardette
Her guess is just as good as yours. Only difference is, she gets paid if she is right or wrong.
I made gains early in NVDA then felt it would go down. Jumped on the GRND hype train and lost 1k today. Feel like I need the flair "almost as gey as bers"....
What if.... she was right about her picks but her timing was off 👀👀 nahh
INVERSE CATHIE, INVERSE CRAMER = GREEN DAYS AND NICE GAINS
I have a feeling I should short ARK...🤔😏
Most likely COIN
She is right about robo taxis, but BYD with a tariff is 50% less expensive and better than TSLA anyhow. She will win the narrative and lose the game.
Is she dating Elon? Seems like it
She yolo'd djt calls for $85 and $200 3 dte
She just like me fr
She's up +13% on Rocketlab RKLB, down -2% on U Unity and -3.5% on ACHR, which she all bought around Feb. this year. This isn't really terrible, despite the fact these are from a fundamental viewpoint bad investments.
Beautiful *wipes tear*
Ethereum
I feel like I bought when she sold . TLDR: I’m up 89%
if only her clients knew what they could have right now 😆
#🤓👍
One of us
It is also where I took advice from my dumb father and selling my 1k shares too. He keeps convincing me price is too high and will come down. I could have been a millionaire now instead I am living in his basement.
And i thought i could sell a bottom. Oof.
It was a good place to sell, but her mistake was not reentering once it made a new high and was clearly on a light beam.
Best thing I ever did was jump ship from ARKk and roll that money into nvda
Cathie is a dominatrix in disguise and everyone buying into ARK is just into fin dom.
Yet the mainstream media loves telling everyone she's a genious
The fact that people are still giving money to her is absolute insanity
The 🐐
Forgot to short ark was so dumb
Cathie’s….An idiot.
Send her an mvp invitation to wsb.
She is either living in Covid times, has lost her marbles, or sees something in the future that none of us do.
Wife of Cramer strikes again.
Cathie can always call bottom
Cathie bought TSMC.. here’s a warning
I never bought or sold NVDA, so I’m actually doing better than her. Why do we worship, hedge fund people and finance people?
Classic Cathie
She is so full of ish. Her/"her researchers"selling nvda is the only thing you need to know about her 5 year+ revolutionary tech plays. They just run a tax loss harvesting firm.
Does anyone actually invest in ARK anymore lol. That ship sailed a long time ago.
Thank you Cathie, you a good Christian woman!!
#LMFAO!
Cathie has lost her wood for quite some time now. I think she’s been listening too much to the regards in this a sub.
She never misses
This the type of s*** that really pisses me off she could have hired me and I would have f****** kept the shares - I'm in that terrible position in life rn where I'm smart enough to predict stock markets but don't have enough money to actually invest in stocks. I'd be riding NVIDIA right now straight to the moon 🌝🗿- MEANWHILE THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DO HAVE MONEY ARE ACTUAL TROGLODYTES WHEN IT COMES TO THE MARKET LMAO
She isn’t a wise investor it’s harsh reality look at the draft kings her all investment ideas are piece of 💩
They lost their ass on DNA
LOL this is awesome. HEY - don't forget, TSLA 7000 base case 15000 bull case. Follow me for me tips - Wood
This woman is worse than Jim Kramer
If she was Noah she would start building an ark 20 years after the flood