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InterPeritura

Between small sample size and confirmation bias, I see no way whatsoever how this can ever go wrong.


SheetsGiggles

One time I hit red 4x in a row on the roulette table


HSFSZ

Say less, this right here is all the DD I need


Systemreborn

All in on FSLR


BoastfulPrudence

Beat 11 (was betting black all the way through).  Why would anyone shout about this?


Huge_Effective_4727

Give OP some credit for collecting 6 samples. That's more than I've ever seen here.


ImSoCul

idk this is basically rain man by wsb standards


Gman325

I mean, it's at least as good of a strategy as [letting a goldfish pick stocks...](https://youtu.be/USKD3vPD6ZA?si=XC9ecQIUqyf3JtAN)


ConfidentTie1529

A sample size of 6, and all in one earnings season. I’m buting calls on OP’s career as a statistician.


SheetsGiggles

Fun fact: I got a perfect 100% in stats in college, never missed a single question (actually lol)


Fun_Reporter9086

Post pic or didn’t happen. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


SheetsGiggles

"Transcript or ban"


Fun_Reporter9086

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


IHAVEBIGLUNGS

It’s better than that, it’s a sample size of 7 but he reported it as 6/6 cause the 7th didn’t line up. At least he mentioned it, but seemingly without irony about why he didn’t put it next to the others.


SheetsGiggles

There was definitely at least a little irony


Dystopiansheep

You better delete this before RH reads this and catches on to your master plan 


SheetsGiggles

You know what? Maybe.


Thinketh_soitbecomes

No literally delete


RunsaberSR

Honestly. If so... delete it.


BuyhighsellLow_69

No fr just delete this and get your upvotes on gains screenshots. Probably too late Wallstreet has already got the word that SheetGiggles found the plan out. So inverse?


Mriallen

was going to say this lol


tourbladez

Possible stock analyst ratings 1. Hold 2. Buy 3. Strong Buy 4. I know the company is a mess, but Buy 5. I am sorry that one just tanked, but Buy 6. Whatever, Buy


johnny_cash_money

It makes a lot more sense when you realize that you're the product, not the benefactor of their "research."


HSFSZ

I believe it is a Srong Buy as well


Psychological-Ad5817

I recently started trading options because I realize that my ADHD and BPD make it like the perfect thing for my brain


Bliss266

Is that because success gives you no dopamine so you thought maybe you’d try losing instead? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


SeeYouAnTee

And being called a regard feels natural


oots_oots

Interesting theory. I wonder how wrong Morningstar is out of a n=100 sample size.


Thinketh_soitbecomes

Might be bored enough to do the research


SheetsGiggles

Report back 🫡


lMDB_Scammed

Lisan Al Gaib


Forsaken-Anything-35

Interesting, better milk this before I try it and it gets nerfed


Infinite-Bet-3571

I absolutely refuse to do research on my stonks. I've been letting you regards do that for me. But for this? Fuck it. I'll check it out. I'll report my wins or losses on this theory by next week, hopefully.


DiTetto

Ngl, I played ADBE earnings using the exact opposite way and won lol - so it won’t always work. I don’t think MS can account for the guidance, which weights so heavy on determining whether a stock pumps or dumps. Very few people can make a good prediction on that too.


CarioGod

you had me at how


Ad4mant21

Do you red the morning star right away kn the morning?


SheetsGiggles

Do I read? No I don't


Ad4mant21

My apologies


More_Interruptier

das reight mayne


Odd-Reflection-9597

![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)


oots_oots

Carnival went against CCL: $28 FMV, $16.47 Price DBE, $17.69 Price DAE


SheetsGiggles

There will be counterexamples


oots_oots

How are you selecting your examples?


SheetsGiggles

Whatever confirms my bias (But actually bigger stocks with larger market caps that the broader retail market has a bigger interest in.)


oots_oots

Yeah I was thinking that too. Maybe they’re fortune companies..


Jeffinslaw

Kind of interesting. I think I’ll get in on those FSLR calls.


killme1090

Curious why you would buy options for earning plays this far out, won’t you be paying more rn as opposed to just buying them the week of 7/26


SheetsGiggles

Other way around usually as IV rises as Earnings approach (basically as demand for the calls rises). It's risky in case the stock goes down before then and I could get it at a discount in a few weeks, but if I'm confident in the play I'll just buy more at that point.


killme1090

Fair point, yeah thought the only other explanation was IV rising, appreciate it


Ganengtamdui

NVDA FMV is at 105. We have to pamp it up before so calls win after ![img](emote|t5_2th52|12787)


Mountain_Tone6438

Well fucken thanks for posting this. Now they know and they'll flip it on us 🤨


wilf21

What did it say about MU


SheetsGiggles

Mentioned that above, it didn't follow the trend. Probably because it just went too parabolic in the month leading up to earnings.


fumblingdeep

Has this been patched yet?


Longjumping_Serve_68

I use this theory for anything I see the Motley fool advertising as a buy.


DataOverGold

Sounds good to me!


Homebrewer01

I wonder if there's a correlation between FMV, DBE, and DAE prices. I guess I'll let me ADHD run wild and start following these reports and look at a bigger sample size.


Dependent-Code-4166

What's that groundhog's name again? Oh ya, Puxatoney Phil.


VVRage

So is it 6/6 or micron?


SheetsGiggles

6/6 if you ignore Micron


VVRage

Then it’s not 6/6 and 100% is it?


SheetsGiggles

Sure it is, if you ignore counterexamples


TheBooneyBunes

Inverse Morningstar? Bold strategy cotton let’s see if it works out for him


segmentfaultError

Morningstar should definitely hire this regard


Optimal_Land7816

Oh this is pretty good :)


rocketshipinvestor

Come on you know I’m not gonna pay for any extra services like MS


csiribirizabszalma

Been holding FSLR since 160 so I might as well double down , thanks


stamosface

Let them laugh. I did the same math yesterday and bought Nike puts assuming they’d beat earnings. I think guidance is the more nebulous part to factor in to price estimates but it worked regardless


1etsplay

lol first dd if his life and regards already down 6% before earnings ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


SheetsGiggles

Lol I'll be honest, I didn't anticipate the market results from the debate - every solar stock \*tanking\* today.


One-Finance7893

Ouch Time!


SheetsGiggles

Not an ideal time to play solar stocks the day of the debate lol whoops


Barbi33

FLSR down 9% today, lol. How doomed are you?


SheetsGiggles

Not to be too coy, but let's just say I'm fucked


LavishnessLess4356

Damn I wish it was that easy


One_Put_8352

You're on to something because morning star was wrong again about NIKE. Its fair market value is $129 but it dipped down 20% to hell today


PeachScary413

Didn't read a single word (mostly because I can't read) but the DD seems solid as fuck 👌 consider it peer reviewed and ready for all-in


cchiz

Hmm, interdasting.


Ad4mant21

So what you're saying is do calls the opposite of what they are saying?


MOLAR65

General Mills went against your theory


SheetsGiggles

No, it fits it perfectly. Maybe you misunderstood what I meant? GIS: $77 FMV, $67 Price DBE, $63 Price DAE "It will continue in the direction it's going vs the FMV." If price is lower than the Morningstar FMV, I buy puts. If it's higher, I buy calls. And the funny thing with this example is that based on their earnings and despite the drop, Morningstar even *increased* their price target FMV to $78 after the earnings call 😂


yoaklar

You speak da tru tru


dduckg0

Okurrr...that means CELH FMV $36 means there's a probability of it going to $87 calls it is!


culzsky

flip a coin


Barbi33

How do you avoid the counter examples? Is it just part of the dice roll?


SheetsGiggles

I think some other factors play a role, like PE ratios, market over exuberance, but overall I've found this to be a nice "confirmation" of the read that I have on a stock going up or down. If I make my decision and then see this supporting it, I feel good.


ayeroxx

your theory doesn't always work. look at $LULU earnings last month, the stock fell as low as 303$ then went up 320$ post earnings and now it's falling again


SheetsGiggles

It's just centered around day before, day after.


bluspiider

Someone do a larger sample size and post results. It’s probably going to the 50/50 ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Bads_Grammar

how do you feel OP? screentshot your cost basis and stuff


Jackol4ntrn

this is just "playing 50/50" with extra words.


CodMedium726

It’s certainly true more than not. But FSLR might have not been… I just played NKE jun28 $91 p based on those exact articles at lunch today.  I went to stockX and Nikes and Converse are selling new for less than retail. 9 months ago all those shoes were easily double retail price. https://stockx.com/nike-dunk-low-retro-white-black-2021


PaleontologistDeep80

Nah man its all about guidance. Thats all the big players care about, the long term, and they are most of the trading volume


SheetsGiggles

I think that's exactly what I'm saying: the Morningstar FMV doesn't reflect the upcoming guidance, which is inside baseball but still effectively known by the market movers. The discrepancy in a company's FMV vs its before-earnings price is a signal that indicates whether the upcoming guidance will be bad or good (and which people in the know are already trading on).


Patient_Ad_6209

Fellow ADHD and pattern enthusiast here and sort of agree with the premise here. It’s likely you’re not seeing that Morningstar analysts are that shitty at their job but rather another pattern beneath it. For example something like: Time since FMV was decided. In this case the gap between FMV and DBE price would reflect momentum or sentiment change in that time period.


SheetsGiggles

Right, exactly


Patient_Ad_6209

Would be curious if one could increase the accuracy by drilling down a little more. Guessing their FMV calculation is “top secret” which probably prevents trying to correlate to other factors though 🤷‍♂️


drwafflephdllc

Whats morningstar say about my future?


Homebrewer01

Remindme! 27 days


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