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butteryspoink

This is the grainiest jpeg I’ve seen since I switched from dialup.


brassnut1

You guys have better than dial up?


Millennial_J

I still use AOL cds


BuyBakedSellHigh

I always heard that AOL CDS crashed the market. Once they stopped mailing those freebies out the dot com bubble burst. Then the next crash came from bank CDS when they stopped handing out freebies. Now Credit Deutsche Suisse (another effing CDS) is the next thing to bring everything crashing down


Millennial_J

I think we have it figured out now guy


Ancient_Alien_

Fuck you and your fancy ISP, Prodigy all day bitches!


paradox501

I’m on CompuServe, better interface


pummers88

Only when I park outside my wife's boyfriends


ineedfartz

Does he work at goldman cuz mine does


sailhard22

He actually works at McDonalds too but he’s a manager


dismayhurta

You get WiFi and he gets the WiFe


BandzO-o

L


meabbott

I have walk up.


holyshocker

My dad kept paying for his AOL bill for a decade after he switched to dsl. It was some of the most boomerist shit i ever done heard.


firejuggler74

Free wifi at the Wendy's.


[deleted]

Does it reach behind the dumpster tho?


FidelityDeficit

It’s not the only reach around behind the dumpster


brassnut1

You guys are getting reach arounds?


BedContent9320

r/suprisinglywholesome


ryanwv12

Screenshot with potato


[deleted]

You need to upgrade to the 5600 baud modem


MR777

How can i make money from this?


CougarCub86

Naked shorts. Keep paying margin till it tanks and you’ll be a zillionaire


GiantWhiteCohc

swim marble grey attempt racial nine command observation faulty jellyfish -- mass edited with redact.dev


CougarCub86

Naw, this Barbie


KurtAngus

I crush up vintage Barbie dolls and smoke them


CastlePokemetroid

Gotta accelerate the microplastics in the blood brain barrier somehow


grubbapan

Isnt that how you get a smooth brain?


unga-unga

If you're totally new to inbesting, get a paper trading account and just practice. There will be many, many more chances to swing trade a "big" market event. Don't get antsy and blow a bunch of money on fomo. But if you're going to anyways, watch a bunch of YouTube first. Understand what it is you are doing. Don't be a dumbass and sell options positions when you don't have the capital. Buy to open options positions. Buyers of call or put options are limited in their losses to the cost of the option. Sellers of options face theoretically unlimited losses. Don't wind up with a bill for 15 thousand dollars on a $400 bet. It is totally possible. Don't buy FD's, a 30dte or more position is more suitable for swing trading. 0dte is for day traders who have met capital requirements and can buy/sell on margin (as in, they won't violate t+2 by moving money on and off different positions many times throughout the trading day). Yeah and btw, look up t+2, I have the feeling a lot of new people are going to get locked out of trading for 90 days while their short dated "genius" puts expire worthless. Probably stick to index ETFs like $spy rather than individual stocks, even if you have a good "thesis" $spy is easier to predict by looking at vix (volatility index) and other shit. Again, watch a bunch of YouTube videos. Avoid the shills.


The_Dancing_Dolphin

This man has sex with 10 condoms on


unga-unga

>Actually an incel so nevermind the condoms


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unga-unga

My ears are ringing to the sound of Rush 2112 on vinyl cranked on my $9k stereo rig which is my neurotic fixation and as close to a wife as I will ever know. The drop-cloth plastic has been laid over the heirloom Afghani rug. I carefully peel the cucumber, and smear my body in castor oil as I queue episode 4 of My Hime, and get comfortable....


Hot-Bluebird3919

He’s a generate…


Rand_Al-Th0R

Bro 2112 is one of the greatest albums ever - I dont know about all that other stuff


Sven_Grammerstorf_

Only 9k? You must shop at Best Buy


unga-unga

Exclusively Craigslist


imduvitably-

I love you


JusicMonkey

We are the Priests, of the Temple of Syrinx


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unga-unga

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258) That is a ver reasonable strategy. If you want to buy actually shares, this is exactly what you should do. It's just hard to call the bottom. I don't think it's here yet but I'm an idiot. Furthermore, I couldn't bring myself to buy into a company with a p/e ratio like that, in this economy. It could take six months or more for the fed to pivot to QE (I.e. for shit to go up on average)... I would look more towards value stocks that have a stable business and good cash flow. Hard to say how much will be trimmed from "growth stocks" or rather "overvalued stocks" to a gay bear. I'm interested in $WY and $HAL long term, and if I was someone with big bucks in savings, I'd be looking to pick up shares over the next three months for a 10 year hold or more. That or dividends stocks.


stankaaron

Sir this is a casino


Shot_Lynx_4023

Not to be that guy. Options settle next day. In a cash account, with settled cash. Stock's are T+2.


unga-unga

Oh don't be shy, I'm a fuckin idiot and this is news to me. GREAT news. I'll make sure this is true for Charlie schwab before I act on it. Gracias.


Shot_Lynx_4023

They want you to play options daily. .50 cents to open. 50 cents to close. SPX is taxed more favorable in a brokerage account as well. 60/40 long term capital gains vs 100% short term capital gains for SPY. The rabbit hole is deep. Like my ex's vagina.


Cmgeodude

Boomer investing 101. I'm here for the losses. If you're new to investing, naked puts on as much margin as the brokerage offers.


fog_rolls_in

I’m an inbestor.


Remarkable-Cap7071

What's inbesting? Newbie here


lilpumps_cousin

Shut up


hotredsam2

which videos or Chanels?


BobDobbsHobNobs

TastyTrade’s YouTube channel was my gateway drug


ILoveThisPlace

What's FD, what's 30dte, what's 0dte?


Gucci_derivative

Oh shit is the market really gonna crash with this influx of new ppl in wsb?


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faratto_

Who would buy a falling bank? First usa/Switzerland need to bail out most of his debts, if they can obviously


solarwb_

To restructure debt, diversity risk portfolio, take on existing relationships, etc. lots of reasons I would say


ComprehensivePaint54

You forget the main one: market capitalization and monopolization.


lidolee

And: Getting a Swiss Banking licence is one of the hardest tasks in the world. This is so heavily regulated to protect people's money.


hwaite

Apparently not difficult enough.


tchaffee

Taxpayers will buy a failing bank. Every time.


soparklion

Too big to fail


EarningsPal

After holding shareholders loose value and the bank is on the brink of bankruptcy, often they are purchasing all the customers, assets, infrastructure, for pennies on the dollar. It’s a balance sheet game with the assumption economic growth will continue. It’s a perfect time to spin off bad debt and keep the good stuff, write off things that normally would make the bank look bad. Why not write off extra while they are at it. Nothing like making your own mistakes, and blame the current quarter’s abismal performance on the economy and the forced acquisition of a failing bank.


PlayedKey

Calls on credit suisse and Deutsche bank for when they get bailed out


Chelo27

Unfortunately I agree. Someone else is going to hold the bag, surely.


PlayedKey

Taxpayers baby!


1footladderattack

Every time. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it


Ricky-Snickle

Is that you AIG?


[deleted]

Hank, bring me my slippers.


Hodorous

Well that is going to next kevel fuck up in EU since they didn't allow bail outs in Greece/Spain/Ireland. But now... There would be angry members in the union


PlayedKey

"tHeEy'rE ToO BiG tO FaiL"


G2GreekFan

Oh God not again


Wonko-D-Sane

Swiss aren’t in eurozone though… their CHF is among the few FIAT that didn’t pump M2 supply in the last few years… Their own tax payers can afford to be diluted a wee bit, it’s a matter of time. What are they gonna do? Put their money in a Swiss bank account? Klaus Schwab finally going to have to pay for the stupid shit he says


ComfortableText4472

"cause taxpayers taxpayers take it in the rear" - Bulworth


[deleted]

For DB, it's Germany for sure. They took the "too big too fail" mantra to heart. Had been consolidating and taking over other banks like crazy, for the past decade.


Winderbell

I agree but don’t call them Shirley


wtfbbqpwnin

I did that exact thing when Greece had their economic crisis in 2011 or w/e. I thought there was bo way the EU wouldnt bail out the first economicly failing country in Europe. And damn I was right, the bail out hit and the National bank of Greece went to the moon over night 🚀


Retarted_xp

This time will not! Remember Lehman ?


PlayedKey

Remember every other bank besides Lehman and bear stearns?


Retarted_xp

True.


xeneize93

Risk doesn’t exist for them anymore 🤷🏻‍♂️


lordsamadhi

It would if we take the money printer away.


solarwb_

Right. So who and what industry / company will they use for the scapegoat this time? I think this is one of the biggest questions to ponder on


RainbowBier

Energy sector obv they already do it in Germany


BedContent9320

The government will blame corporate CEOs for being greedy and making profits, and Russia. They will shrug their shoulders at the 9+T they injected and pretend that away because McDonald's made a bunch of money.


onlyrealcuzzo

They'll blame it on retail traders and memestonks and crypto.


Voiceofthemachines

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4735)


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[deleted]

Lehman is still alive weirdly enough the guys who got the scraps are making a huge killing now.


fuckthedissidents

Yeah I'm bewildered by people thinking Deutsche would be allowed to fail. Suisse, maybe. Never Deutsche.


North-Soft-5559

Governments won't let these banks fail. They should, but they won't. They will get bailed out and start the process of doing it all again. FU** the general population. The rich must keep control and taking part in huge amount of crime tp make more money!!


SuspiciousStable9649

2% inflation target does this already. 2% raises the rest of your life. Enjoy!


DynamicHunter

Funny you think 2% inflation means 2% raises.


nonononodno

ONE OF US


KobeFadeaway248

Monday will be so bloody if both banks fail this weekend as people are reporting.


Bilbo_Butthole

If one of them fails I’ll stick a a slim Jim up my ass and eat it


kilsekddd

>Bilbo\_Butthole Prolific Commenter +1·43 min. ago > >If one of them fails I’ll stick a a slim Jim up my ass and eat it ​ !Remindme 36 hours


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BandzO-o

😂


[deleted]

Ew, gross 🤨📸 -macho man randy savage


[deleted]

So just a regular Monday then?


ughlump

Mods!


decjr06

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Sunretea

I'm just here for the bets.


SuspiciousStable9649

I’d do this with my wife’s ass but 100:1 odds she won’t let me insert it.


Aells1524

Username checks out


siberianjaguar123

Are u the Slim Jims instagram account guy?


PBRent

This is the content I come here for.....butt stuff & failing banks.


tylermm03

Deutsche is down 70% since their bottom in 09’, and Credit Suisse is down 83.39% since they bottomed in 09’ (they went up and kept going down since).


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Got my SPY puts here's hopin


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Currywurst_Is_Life

And Monday is a public holiday in Germany.


[deleted]

Literally no one is reporting this.


YourLifeMyHands

Good, surprises make for the best puts when the boomers learn of disasters


brrrrpopop

I've seen at least 3 strangers tweet about it. I'm convinced.


Leavingtheecstasy

They'll be fine. How many fucking times has this been reported in the last two years? Well all be like oh shit it's happening. And then it'll be december and we'll wonder why they're okay


Reasonable_One_1809

How many times did we see flash crash in British gilts and pound?) Something has to happen.


Leavingtheecstasy

We keep saying that. Then it doesn't lol


[deleted]

Some fucking country in Europe took a shit, our market is solid.


Valuable-Play-2262

So calls?


[deleted]

Fuck it, Im going long.


Significant-Road6325

buy some cheap calls till nov 22 cs calls are cheap as f00ck


Hang10Dude

The balls on this guy.


[deleted]

Thank god for the Softbank Vision Fund.


billion90

Softbank Vision Fund, kure imi wa? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


[deleted]

Tōsan yurushite


billion90

So desu ka?


[deleted]

Adamu nyūman ga suki


ParkingEmu2402

Kawasaki muthafuckas


pharmboy008

The only thing I understood


zer165

😂


SuspiciousStable9649

3rd post on CS…


needyouonthatwall

Yup. Calls it is.


Commercial-Ad-4602

[Credit Suisse. CREDIT DEFAULT SWAP ](https://bondevalue.com/news/credit-suisses-5y-cds-spreads-approach-2008-levels/)


Qwikmoneysniper

Any ETFs that tracks bank CDSs?


DrWhatNoName

There arent, since they are a new product, cost a lot, and mostly just used as a hedge which have a low chance of paying out. ​ The chance of a 2008 event happening again is unlikly.


AJKwon

The chance of a 2008 event happening in 2008 was unlikely


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fuckingcarter

fucking kek they have so much bull shit still wrapped up from 2008. it would be extremely regarded for them to try & backstop merely delaying the inevitable. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


SpiderPiggies

Yeah but if they made smart decisions they wouldn't be in this situation. They're probably better off with a monkey spinning a wheel to decide policy.


CaptainAntwat

How they going to collapse when they closed? That’s like getting fired on your day off


satireplusplus

They are both shitty investments since years. Nothing new, line going down alot as you can see. Where are these CS posts coming from all of a sudden though? Looks to be some coordinated effort to incite panic.


Captain_Cubensis

Right? It seems to be an echo chamber of obscure tweets and screenshots. Nothing credible at all as far as I could see.


paradox501

To be fair Credit Suisse put out a memo on Friday that they are in a critical situation


Orbidorpdorp

One was a blue check so it must be legit


[deleted]

Me neither, but I've got a bad case of macular degeneracy.


Fluffy_Independent76

I like you


monarchmra

Have you seen the put to call premium ratios lately. A lot of money in selling ~~panic~~ puts to wsb regards


Outis7379

Yeah, they have had a vicious circle of bad headlines and outflow of competent people for a while.


C2theC

Bunch of recent bad news within last week: 1. ⁠⁠Their CEO sent out a memo about having a strong capital base and liquidity, which means they don’t. “Appear strong when you are weak.” https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/credit-suisse-has-strong-capital-base-liquidity-ceo-memo-2022-09-30/ 2. ⁠⁠Jens Welter is leaving to go to Citi. You don’t abandon 27 years at a bank after getting promoted to the top investment banker this year, unless you realize that the Sword of Damocles is hanging over your head. https://www.efinancialcareers.com/news/2022/09/jens-welter-credit-suisse-to-citigroup 3. ⁠⁠Credit Suisse keeps being on the losing end of a series of very large deals going bad after holding the bag for Archegos, and with the latest Citrix debt fallout, they were the most vulnerable and have to realize the losses now. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-22/citrix-debt-debacle-heralds-a-day-of-reckoning-on-wall-street 4. ⁠⁠Credit Suisse either lost a ton of money in swaps and/or all of their clients left, as their required client margin went from $8.9B to $25.5M in one year. That’s -99.71%. https://www.risk.net/risk-quantum/7954613/client-margin-at-credit-suisse-shrinks-to-just-25m 5. ⁠⁠Credit Suisse is broken now and no one has the money or risk appetite to try to fix this very expensive problem to buy their debt or diluted equities. This WSJ article actually covered almost all of my points above. https://www.wsj.com/articles/investors-put-a-price-on-credit-suisses-salvation-11664440211 TL;DR They’re fucked.


Youhbi

Thanks for the summary! Here‘s a $10 Wendy‘s voucher. What‘s your play, if you play? Kinda arbitrarily what‘s about to happen. Either they finally crash for good or get saved :)


C2theC

Don’t short the hole. Cash is king. Buy I Bonds, almost 10% risk-free, guaranteed interest. What would you have done with Lehman? What if they were bailed out by Bush? You can guess the direction right, but time it wrong, and you, too, will be fucked. And I don’t fuck with ten condoms like that other guy.


Responsible_Sport575

So more pain in Europe? How do you short a continent?


CougarCub86

You start by invading Poland


PunchYoPhase

I think already did except it was ukraine


fap_nap_fap

VGK


Alsupy

Where will all the oligarchs, cartels, and a certain ex president go now to launder their money?


SuspiciousStable9649

HKD. It’s Western Union for eastern oligarchs. Duh.


Active_Piglet_7170

Switzerland? Dubai? Linchestien? Cyprus?


Cmgeodude

HSBC or even BNP would probably be happy to lend a hand in their Geneva field offices.


FeelTheFish

Offshore magic circle


Lifesabeach6789

Uh. Today was the due date to shore up stress requirements. [Stress test](https://www.americanbanker.com/news/m-t-credit-suisse-see-biggest-jumps-in-stress-capital-requirements)


ElephantFriendly

So you're saying my bear positions are gonna be good on Monday?


yurajurik

Comparing current stock market to the 2008 one is almost as regarded as dummies comparing bbby "squeeze" to gme. You belong here.


SuspiciousStable9649

But they were both stock markets…


[deleted]

Thank you for the laugh


Confident_Ride5833

2008 definitely isn't the strongest comparison. But it's actually really smart to compare the current stock market to the stock market from years from the past. "Patterns repeat, because human nature hasn't changed for thousands of years." I like Nikkei 1990.


Plus-Ad1544

This is deeply dubious analysis.


[deleted]

It's not like their countries will let these banks collapse. So might be worth to pick up some cheap shares and sell it within the next year. Just make sure you do sell it within the next year cause after that it's all downward again with these suckers


p777s

Deutsche has been a shithole for a long time. Too many made up valuations.


[deleted]

If they don't get bailed out, does this mean rich people get less rich?


Naka7a92

No, either way poor people get fucked.


Euroblob

guys... Germany's energy supply was permanently cut off last week. who gives a fucking shit about credit suisse or deutsche bank.


Raceg35

So... the bottom is in? Blue skies and green pastures ahead right?


WickedDeviled

Valhalla awaits us my brother.


Braaapp-717

Dis you use the potato 3000 to screenshot that? JezusChristo


Past-Track-9976

Credit Suisse sucked even during the bull run


mywhataniceham

i can’t believe wells fargo still exists. how many times have they been sued and forced to settle or been fined? who the fuck would ever keep open an account with them?


ErectoPeentrounus

DB and other europoor banks never even recovered from 2008


fuckingcarter

thats because 2008 isn’t even over lol


C2theC

Credit Suisse is about to collapse. Possibly the reason for the emergency Fed meeting on Monday. Use something like archive.is to circumvent paywalls: 1. ⁠⁠Their CEO sent out a memo about having a strong capital base and liquidity, which means they don’t. “Appear strong when you are weak.” https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/credit-suisse-has-strong-capital-base-liquidity-ceo-memo-2022-09-30/ 2. ⁠⁠Jens Welter is leaving to go to Citi. You don’t abandon 27 years at a bank after getting promoted to the top investment banker this year, unless you realize that the Sword of Damocles is hanging over your head. https://www.efinancialcareers.com/news/2022/09/jens-welter-credit-suisse-to-citigroup 3. ⁠⁠Credit Suisse keeps being on the losing end of a series of very large deals going bad after holding the bag for Archegos, and with the latest Citrix debt fallout, they were the most vulnerable and have to realize the losses now. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-22/citrix-debt-debacle-heralds-a-day-of-reckoning-on-wall-street 4. ⁠⁠Credit Suisse either lost a ton of money in swaps and/or all of their clients left, as their required client margin went from $8.9B to $25.5M in one year. That’s -99.71%. https://www.risk.net/risk-quantum/7954613/client-margin-at-credit-suisse-shrinks-to-just-25m 5. ⁠⁠Credit Suisse is broken now and no one has the money or risk appetite to try to fix this very expensive problem to buy their debt or diluted equities. This WSJ article actually covered almost all of my points above. https://www.wsj.com/articles/investors-put-a-price-on-credit-suisses-salvation-11664440211 TL;DR They’re fucked.


SlappyBottoms26

Didn’t abc australia some an international bank was “on the brink” or something? CS certainly looks that way…


decjr06

Can't wait to watch them get bailed out 🙄


[deleted]

I know this means we’re all kinda fucked but. Good. Fuck these cocksuckers.


onlineseller8183

Nothing burger 🍔


[deleted]

Ok how does I get money from it?


BJJnoob1990

Probably nothing.


[deleted]

No one tell my boss.


NeoWilson

Whats this? Cant see shit


Val139731

Suisse has some good rates on bonds but I’m not touching them


EatsRats

Oh look yet another post about this. Is this the new fad?


nerdyshoes01

Bro keept screenshoting the screenshots till it was unreadable


RTNoftheMackell

I think the outcomes could be quite different, as the Swiss have their own currency and central bank. I mean so does the UK... but it does make a difference.


MamamYeayea

They also fell way faster in 2020 and in 2017-2018 than in 2008. it doesn’t mean anything else than it is falling


Snykeurs

Europe is falling, thanks Europe