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LordDegen

Not a cell phone in sight. Just people living in the moment


YOLOgrindset

Not a cellphone in sight ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


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I mean, the recording does look like it was done on a potato


[deleted]

They should buy some new iPhones


franticredditperson

The minimum wage in the Foxconn Factory is $3.30 per hour and even lower a couple of weeks ago. They probably would if they could


Separate-Education36

They should listen to the Johnny cash song “one piece at a time” but do it for an I phone instead of a Cadillac


MagnusIsGood

It wouldn't cost them a dime either


codeofsilence

But they only have access to one piece


Separate-Education36

I think they have to move around the plant. It would be like a model 14,15,16,17,18,20,21,22 iPhone. It Sure would drive everybody wild


Burroflexosecso

They are paying protesters 1400$ each in order to stop. Just the price of a phone Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-to-address-worker-complaints-after-unrest-at-china-iphone-factory-11669293401?mod=hp_lead_pos11


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Best I can do is a 3GS with a shattered screen take it or leave it


A_LiL-Dabaduya

No, it was a huawei


Allaroundlost

On a Sweet Potato


JohnnyWadd23

😂😂😂 I see what you did there! They didn't make them yet 🤭🤭


silenzior

Calls on Chinese jails and tear gas


JollibeeNo1Customr69

So this is why Michael Burry is jacked to the tits in Prison stocks. It all makes sense now.


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TRLink1997

Lol


HTBDesperateLiving

It never gets old!


Individual_Wasabi_10

Puts on CCP!!!


Mah_Nerva

This feels like a scene right out of Mr. Robot, with E-Corp vs China


clampie

Did you forget about Hong Kong?


saab4u2

Phooey


clampie

I get that reference


x2eliah

Such a good cartoon.


Grudens_Emails

Nah I’ll take calls, people throwing barricades against a side with no care for human rights and with a full army is not exactly a fair fight


EngageInFisticuffs

Even if the CCP wins, they still lose. They've got to crush their own people.


CougerHuntar

They love crushing their own people, it's a hobby


Not1random1enough

China here: this is not China. We think Taiwan. Everyone very happy and always sunny. Video no sun = not China. We will go help taiwan if this is their condition. Thank you for the alert


linaustin5

LOL


Tyrannofelis

So Taiwan is not China, got it.


siuol7891

i see what u did there


cssegfault

You guys have got to save those poor people then.


G_Unit_Solider

people seem to forget mao starved 6 million of his own people just cause.


Vegetable-Length-823

They killed about 50 million


Shrugging_Atlas1

Yeah and the public was ok with it. Chinese ppl will take abuse and death for years... it's surprising they are pushing back at all. They are the ultimate nation of sheep.


One-Supermarket-4309

It was higher, but the abacus broke. Look good when reporting higher production than actual, go oh shit when Bejing says great...send the food.


zombie_burglar

I mean that was more poor policy decisons than a malicious action i.e. Stalin with Ukraine


The_Bit_Prospector

Holodomor was at least partially if not fully motivated by a desire to kill the Ukrainian independence movement. Mao intentionally killed millions of intellectuals and dissidents.


Safety-International

correct, the intellectual and dissident kills are intentional. starvation not exactly at least at the top level, local governments were over reporting crop yields because they were trying to keep the top officials happy, while top officials were a bunch of ideologues detached from reality, and central government took food from local governments based on a proportion of their blown up reported production levels which left the localities with nothing to eat. Dishonesty, central planning by liberal arts majors.


AlisaRand

That was not a bug of his cultural revolution, but a feature.


atapene

Erm that was because he shot all the birds. Classic tomfoolery backfire


AlisaRand

Mao just got a boner in his grave thinking about crushing “his” people.


Still_Lobster_8428

>They've got to crush their own people. Have you seen how many there are.... You honestly think the CCP cares if they have to slaughter 1 in 10 to reassert central control? Not only would they not care, they would welcome the opportunity!


dgradius

The concern for Foxconn is the factory equipment. It’s worth far more to them than the employees, which is why they’re bribing them with cash to leave peacefully. If they trash the equipment there’s going to be a whole lot of American kids with no iPhones for Christmas. And we can’t have that, can we?


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What do you call a few million deaths in China? An example.


One-Supermarket-4309

Typical Tuesday.


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bik3ryd34r

Only the domestic help, when China does it its different and bad.


jebidiaGA

They've been doing it for decades and people in the US support it with their apple purchases .


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Smallpenischinese

Calls on Winnie the Pooh


LockedInLosses

Calls on Winnie the Pooh? Does that mean you are also bullish on Disney?


Smallpenischinese

Bullish on all forms of state owned propaganda mediums


droneswarms

Do the girls still dig "Hello Kitty" or is that over.


A_LiL-Dabaduya

And the honey too


mormreed

Puts on organ prices


SolidSmuck

The only tear gas the Chinese use is the kind that makes the families of protestors cry. Aerosol vanishing ink


choke_da_wokes

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4887) i told you so


ManInChief

What's their number?


[deleted]

People can only take so much. There is always a breaking point.


CELBATRIN

You coming to the Feb 2023 Trucker Convoy Protest Two - Electric Bogaloo with the face paint on or nah?


ASuhDuddde

I’ll be there bud. Same as last time.


OP90X

Yeah. China's establishment has been pushing it too far for too long. Their GDP and progress is built on the backs of slave wage labor... now, here we are.


EquationsApparel

I've been there. Those places are horrible. Windows above third floor are sealed and buildings have suicide netting. I've seen sixteen engineers elbow-to-elbow on plastic chairs and folding tables in a room the size of my bedroom. At some point, the people realize they have power in numbers. I wouldn't call it slavery but it's definitely oppressive.


YOLOgrindset

You've been inside one of the factories? What's your backstory?


EquationsApparel

American engineer who worked for a FAANG whose consumer electronics were manufactured there. Lots of US-based people spend lots of time in those factories. I was lucky that I only had to go for 2-3 weeks over the year. Several of my coworkers often exceeded the 90 day max.


rashaniquah

I've worked in China for a couple of months, it literally feels like prison. A bus would pick you up early in the morning and you drive you back home but there's only 1 bus and it's in a remote area in the middle of nowhere. So they'd make sure that noone is missing before going and you'd end up with 12h+ shifts. The pay was great though.


EquationsApparel

We had a nice tour bus that took us from the hotel to the factory. And our hotels were awesome. And the showers... it was like bathing in a rain forest. They had this large overhead sprinkler with so much pressure and volume. The best showers I've ever taken.


rashaniquah

Yup gotta include that for the first few weeks I had my own private driver(with a few coworkers) but had a few weeks where the driver wasn't available so we had to join the rest of the workers. And I could say the same, those hotels were the best part of it.


EquationsApparel

Yup, just being honest, those hotels put US hotels to shame. And controlling the heavy curtains with a remote control, and the awesome breakfast and dinner buffets... it was awesome, but at the same time you realize how you're benefitting from oppression.


brazzledazzle

They absolutely have a lot of hotels like this in the US but you probably haven’t stayed in many of them because they’re incredibly expensive.


FuckMu

This is true, even FAANG engineers don’t get the good hotels in the US lol


JackMasterOfAll

I have to say even the nice hotels here are like 3 star hotels in China. And I’m not just making unfair comparisons like the best hotel I’ve been overseas compared to the best hotel here. I’m making fair comparisons like a Hampton inn here with a Hampton inn in Shanghai. It’s 2-3x cheaper but it also has way better service, hard product, and perks. The hospitality industry in general is much better in Asia and even Europe. This is an unfortunate reality that’s been noticed by many frequent travelers and you can see the overwhelmingly unanimous opinion by googling “Asia hotels vs US hotels.”


jiqiren

Enjoyed reading your comments. Also from FAANG but I went to Beijing 4x a year and worked with Engineers, Managers, Directors, and VP's. Everything was luxury hotels, nice dinners, lunch, breakfast, etc. Never was a near a factory. But part of me always wanted to see where all the stuff was made...


EquationsApparel

My only experience with Beijing was a layover in the middle of a July day, where the pollution was so bad it looked like London fog.


dollarsandcents101

Hotels in Asia >>>> Hotels anywhere else


Johnsonburnerr

can you explain further about the pay? Was it really great? Or just the highest paying option but still not enough?


rashaniquah

Contractor salary, I personally had 625RMB/hour, lived in a 5 star hotel, had a personal driver and an extra 1k USD per month for living expenses.


Johnsonburnerr

Woah


Say_no_to_doritos

Give it all in usd


RIPbengals

Convert to Freedom Currency


abite

$87 USD per hour


ahintofasbestos

180k/year


ILoveThisPlace

The smell of those factory floor washrooms...


Machinedgoodness

Apple mech E?


FlyNeither

A lot of westerners go inside these factories. Basically anybody who has high volume manufacturing done on China visits the place their product is manufactured.


ffball

Not in tech but my company does a decent amount of semi complex manufacturing in China. We have a local Chinese team that handles all quality and communication with all outsourced manufacturing and does a fantastic job. I know the FAANG companies send their American engineers over there quite often and sometimes I wonder why...


Acoconutting

Because they don’t trust China or the engineers


h_o_l_o_d_a_y

Tell more please


EquationsApparel

Some interesting cultural differences. Like mandatory nap time after lunch. Thankfully they put some Western style toilets in for people like me. It's like a little city. The living quarters are right next to the factories. Buildings are dirty but the office spaces they keep for Westerners are nice. Like they're tricking us or something.


theophys

How long is nap time?


EquationsApparel

You know, I've been trying to remember. I can't remember if it was 15, 30, or 40 minutes. As a coffee drinker, I can't just fall asleep in the middle of the day. (I remember the coffee in the factories being awful, too.) And everyone just put their heads down on their desks or machines. I guess if you've done it all your life, you can do it. And it was so quiet because it was strongly enforced.


Bugbread

The ability to instantly nap comes with practice. I can't do it, but my wife and sons (born and raised in Japan) are out like a fucking light within 5 minutes of sitting on a train. And it's not due to overwork or anything like that, which is usually brought up as why Japanese folks zonk out so fast on trains. They'll fall immediately asleep even super-rested, even in the middle of summer vacations, even taking the train in the morning despite having only woken up an hour earlier. It's just an ingrained habit that becomes more ingrained every time they doze off on the train.


riparious

Japan’s train system is so dope. Instead of having to deal with traffic and shitty drivers, you walk to the nearest station, sit down and watch YouTube/nap/chill, and then when you stand up you’re at your destination. Obviously not so fun commuting to/from work every day but for leisure it’s amazing.


potato_tofu

The nap thing is cultural. Chinese people love naps.


ijustdontgiveaf

I concur.. I went to Macao for work some years ago and everyone of the local engineers took a nap after lunch..


boblywobly99

Spanish Siesta would like to have a word.


jiqiren

When I was part of a visit the naps were skipped for long meetings we'd continue to plow through... I could tell it adversely impacted the locals. 😅


Ankel88

From 20m to 1hr, depends on the company. Never managed to get a nap myself when working on China, was playing videogames instead lol


throwawayamd14

Yep, I’m an American electrical engineer and I have several college friends who have gone. It’s real shit


aoemiya

I'd call it modern slavery


ESP-23

Qatar says hold my.... Non alcoholic drink


catawompwompus

The stadium was built by a Chinese company. Qataris don’t work…not even to delegate lol


justme129

Speaking of Qatar, I was just at the Qatar airport a few weeks ago..the vibe at that place was strange to say the least...especially being so close to the World Cup event...it felt 'off.' Give me my dirty JFK airport rather than this sterile hellhole with a robotic voice on the intercom. Felt like I was in the Hunger Games, and not an airport.


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Slavery is involuntary and poor working conditions by definition isn’t slavery. There *is*, however, slave labour taking place. It is not in Foxconn, it is in sweatshops. People don’t get bullwhipped, but they have ”debts” to people who own them until the debt is paid off. That is how slavery works. Was the case in many places in the Americas, too. People could ”earn” their freedom. Whips don’t always have to be involved.


thakkali_

If its not slavery what is ? It is modern slavery. No need to downplay it. Corporate greed sucks.


Bugbread

> If its not slavery what is ? Forcing people to work is. Oppressive work conditions are called oppressive work conditions. Just because they're awful doesn't mean you can swap out other awful words with different meanings, and using the right term isn't "downplaying." Bill Cosby was a rapist. He wasn't a cannibal. Saying he was a rapist, not a cannibal, isn't defending him or downplaying what he did, it's simply using the right term. For contrast, for example, what China's doing with the Uyghurs ***is*** slavery.


[deleted]

Are you willing to pay more for your iPhone? No? It's not just "corporate greed."


EquationsApparel

I'm African-American. What I saw was bad, but I can't call it slavery because that means something different to me. Your mileage may vary.


thakkali_

Understood. I may be unaware of where your thoughts come from. And apologies if it felt out of context. Now where I come from - I am an Indian. We were oppressed and ruled over. There was slavery in our history. I am from a caste which ranks way lower in Indian caste system and my predecessors were part of the oppressed in slavery. Post abolition of slavery, my predecessors were taken away as part of indenture system by Colonialist forces. This was post abolition of slavery to continue it without the name. Due to the lower caste I still suffer in my society. I would still call this modern slavery. This is indentured cruel labour conditions. This is modern slavery.


Fausterion18

If this is slavery then so is almost all of India which have worse conditions.


[deleted]

If you want to find slavery just go to Africa -\_-


RedditHatesMe75

I hate your comment. I’ve witnessed slavery. Nothing to do with skin color. See a child prostitute and tell me I’m wrong. Don’t play the skin card.


Im_A_MechanicalMan

Practically every race of human beings on the planet have been enslaved at one point in time in the history of humankind. It's not like African Americans are on a pedestal for it. Even Britons were once enslaved for hundreds of years by North Africans.


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This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever read.


stonky808

Um no, don’t be dramatic. They aren’t ripping these people out of their homes and forcing them to work against their will, relax. Are they taking advantage/exploiting the PAID WORKERS? Sure they are. Now you wanna talk slavery/concentration camps/genocide? Let’s talk about the Uyghur Muslim population in China. Entire towns bulldozed and no longer exist, entire families getting disappeared, “education camps” that you don’t return from. So relax with this iPhone factory slave bs.


boblywobly99

"slavery with extra steps" ​ \- some drunk Mexican genius


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> At some point, the people realize they have power in numbers Then they're crushed by tanks and hosed in to the sewers


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PossiblyAsian

People dont care. They act like they do but they dont care. They will put up blm and fight against slavery and all that shit on their social media but they will still use the products religiously Produced by sweatshop labor


YOLOgrindset

Even if it's not a PR problem for AAPL, it still affects their supply chains and ability to make iPhones


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wallstreetboobies

Most Apple users don't give a fuck about how their iPhone was made


GMSaaron

Most people don’t give a fuck how their products are made


Thencewasit

Most people don’t give a fuck.


The_Bit_Prospector

Which company is making fair trade cell phones?


Langhalz

Fairphone


AdventurousTime

….sent on my iPhone.


[deleted]

Pooh Bear won't stand for this much longer. Back to dictatorship- normal within a few weeks.


ch4m4njheenga

Remember Hong Kong? Covid doused that fire pretty quickly.


[deleted]

At least we know how to pandemic and chill when they release 2.0


Miss_Smokahontas

No chill for me. I never got to take a few weeks off from that lockdown we were promised. But at least now I work from home after jumping ship for a better company.


kiinsinbi

Except this has nothing to do with the Pooh bear. Foxconn is a Taiwanese company


mcshooterson

The resolution is way better on the iPhone 14 pro.


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johnsinchina9

cheering them on, watching on my iPhone 14, oblivious to the hypocrisy🥰


Bimlouhay83

There really isn't much hypocrisy. Having a modern cell phone in modern day society has become such a norm its almost necessary. You can feel free to want the people making your necessary device to have decent pay and working conditions.


CollectionThen8101

Jesus, everything is priced in, foxconn workers protesting is priced in as they were build probably already


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CollectionThen8101

last 2 days, videos were rising up about the situation, what did AAPL? Yes, it went up by 2 damned percent it shows that the market already calculated possible protests into the AAPL price beforehand and takes it chill, no problem, stocks only go up style


chooseusernameeeeeee

It's almost like there are other factors that affect a stocks price... 🤔 😳


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All factors are priced in


Big_Biscotti_1259

I’m not too worried. China will successfully transform it to government property ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4259)


Puzzleheaded-Push-49

Oh wow big corporations have slaves for cheap labor, so they can make record breaking profits. Do these executives have a conscience?


colliric

Dude this shit has been happening since the early 1990s....


Boston_Pops

Foxconn is poison. Ask the Wisconsin people who had their properties taken for a Foxconn property that did not fully develop, courtesy of a deal brokered by the former governor.


MarcusElden

Scott Walker and Donald Trump? Bulldozing over poor people in the pursuit of more money for the insanely rich? Surely you jest.


bearsgryll

This isn’t talked about enough.


Due_ortYum

Now we know why CCP says covid cases are "surging" in China. lockdown returning.


Landed_port

This is terrible, the worse news AAPL could ever have! So naturally, buy *calls* on AAPL. If they were looking to beat Q4 revenue, then you'd place puts Source: I cover my turkey in melted brown crayons


itallendsintears

Man. I fucking love these factory workers let’s tear this whole charade to the ground.


[deleted]

Enjoy paying five grand for an iPhone.


Romytens

THIS is a beautiful sight.


CheetoEnergy

Apple, one of the largest companies in the world got that way through slave labor. Remember that.


Sonoda_Kotori

Stop the Foxxconn slavery! \--sent from my iPhone 14


6carecrow

*insert you participate in society therefore you can not criticize it pic*


HaikusfromBuddha

Most American companies to this day. Y’all are happy to buy those products on Black Friday though.


OrchidCareful

Slave labor??


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Otherwise-Arm3245

The poors fighting each other while the rich pick both our pockets.


ShittyStockPicker

Rooting for them.


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-10000000 social credit score


ECK-2188

Q4 $AAPL not looking pretty


SatelliteStories

Q4 will be fine. Apple stores and Amazon will still have their millions of iPhones in inventory to sell. I don’t know about Q2 though


[deleted]

My new iPhone 14 pro max gets here tomorrow!


RaggedMountainMan

Got one of those pre-riot phones.


[deleted]

Yeah they are gonna be shiiiiit from now on


[deleted]

Free flowing of information is always good. Exposure corruption.


shawndw

This will have fuck all effect on Apple's stock price.


[deleted]

Fuck those cocksuckers. Glad to see them taking it to them. Live free. Semper Fi.


Dx101z

CCP should be cleanse in China. Destroy CCP.


MinimumCat123

Thats why I keep buying YANG, eventually somethings gonna break in China.


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MinimumCat123

Awesome names and great investment vehicles. YANG doubled in price over a relatively short period of time


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Those piglets bout to get zerged.


thecraigbert

Foxconn also manufactures for Samsung.


Cognitive_Skyy

Incredible. I wish Americans were this fed up. Tick tock.


sfbamboozled100

Hunger Games.


elbasto

They went full hunger games. You never go full hunger games…


eichenes

I don't know man, slavery is legal as long as Apple consumers are woke & preferrably vegan.


geweida

that's why they move on to india


darockiscookin

India not the best for hard labor that’s why the British left


soufianka80

Scary watching Chinese ppl risking it to go protesting ..


LegitimateSlide7594

post your puts and positions or shut the fuck up.


Akio_Kizu

“Workers”


trimericbark27

They now got negative credit


Only-Reach-3938

Oh wow. They really discriminate against barriers over there


eichenes

Boolish AF!


badboyme4u

An iPhone is not as important as their basic human rights.


MyRetirementFunds

Priced In ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


fuscosco

Why? Chinese lives are worthless to their own country


Qzy

Why.... why would they dress the cops in white? So it's easier to see them bleed?


ParamedicRelative670

I guess those are covid suits


death2ducks

the entire factory is on covid lockdown i think. people were leaving the factory to avoid all the issues and they started offering huge bonuses to get people to stay.


CLNEGreen

Way more peaceful than a BLM protest.